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    Santa Cruz Megatower

    Since details are trickling out and the name has been public for a month, figured a new thread was in order.

    Hereís a summary Iíve seen posted various places online:

    Likely Changes

    - 160/160 seems most likely
    - Sub 65 head angle
    - Nomad style linkage
    - steeper seat tube

    Wish list (mine only)

    - Overforking by 10-20mm
    - Fit a Fox X2 rear shock

    Release date- Iíve seen a couple mentions between 3/13 and 3/19

    Questions-

    - Will it replace the HTLT or just supplement it. I couldnít imagine it doesnít replace it, but itís been suggested.

    - Does a new Hightower and Tallboy follow closely behind or not? Iíve heard, no Hightower for awhile

    Could SC streamline their 29er range to 100mm, 120, 140, 160mm?
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    I'm expecting/hoping new wider 29er Reserve wheels to come out with it. 35mm internal width at least.

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    Everything I've read seems to be nothing more than speculation.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnmark View Post
    Since details are trickling out and the name has been public for a month, figured a new thread was in order.

    I was hoping for some overforking, but am excited to see the new colors in person soon!

    What are you hoping for in the Megatower?
    Are you telling me that I have correctly guessed the new bikes name when jokingly called it the Megatower a month ago??

    What details have trickled out that you know of because AFAIK nobody knows anything so far?

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    Kinda hope itís not MegaTower.

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    Agreed ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    Agreed ^^
    Double agreed, IMHO just sounds like a tacky, low budget amusement park ride...

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    Is this bike going to be kept under wraps till itís released?

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    I wish the name was a joke too, but Iíve seen it in print with a reliable source.

    Iím going to update the original with stats Iíve seen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboned View Post
    I'm expecting/hoping new wider 29er Reserve wheels to come out with it. 35mm internal width at least.
    What makes you want 35mm, when SC has 37mm? Just curious.

    Iím happy with my 30mm, hope they donít seem puny in a couple of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Everything I've read seems to be nothing more than speculation.
    Guess it depends what you would call speculation.

    There is a big difference between ďSC would be crazy not to have XYZĒ and ďAn SC employee told me XĒ

    Look around....

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    Anything look different here?




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    37mm would be great but is only available on 27.5 Reserve wheels right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Anything look different here?




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    The red Trek or blue Bronson?

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    The left skid is missing on that …cureuil?
    Do the math.

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    Yellow bike on the right is the new sled.


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    Sure hope not with the high mount shock. Not V10 like at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    Yellow bike on the right is the new sled.
    Isn't that just the yellow hightower LT? It has the current shock layout.

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    I'm not seeing anything. Unless they have the megatower disguised as a turquoise bronson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Anything look different here?
    Yeah, how dry the grass is!! It was lush last time I was there....

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    Hard to make out anything in that Insta post. Are you sure that's not just a grey Bronson?

    Either way, a 160mm Megatower is definitely coming this spring. Apparently the frames have been available for a couple months, but there's a media embargo until the part specs and supplier terms have been finalized. It was supposed to be announced in Feb but that obviously didn't happen, so I'm not holding my breath on any potential 'reveal' date rumors...

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    I'ts definitely NOT the primer grey Bronson - look at where the sun is on the top tube. It's a matte carbon - and it's definitely not a Nomad. Its hard to tell, but I see a 29er wheel up front and looks 170mm of travel.

    Based on a bunch of media posting on Instagram that they are in NZ riding at Wairoa Gorge (which is supposed to be gnarly), it has to be a media junket riding the new bike. I would have money on a reveal in the next few weeks.

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    March. 100% Some big Santa Cruz names at NZ Enduro this weekend....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    I'ts definitely NOT the primer grey Bronson - look at where the sun is on the top tube. It's a matte carbon - and it's definitely not a Nomad. Its hard to tell, but I see a 29er wheel up front and looks 170mm of travel.

    Based on a bunch of media posting on Instagram that they are in NZ riding at Wairoa Gorge (which is supposed to be gnarly), it has to be a media junket riding the new bike. I would have money on a reveal in the next few weeks.
    This is correct.

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    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??
    Haha!

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    Mega

    Make Enduro Great Again?

    Canít claim credit. Friend was poking fun at the possible name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellyxc View Post
    March. 100% Some big Santa Cruz names at NZ Enduro this weekend....
    Honestly, I hope you and Nathanbal are right... got my money saved and am ready to pull the trigger on this bike the moment it comes out :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??
    3 from fully open

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    I smell conspiracy - they've removed a few comments from Nathanbal's Instagram link including the one about the lower link SC 29r!

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    They also photoshopped out the battery and the #ebike in the comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??
    You seriously can't see it?


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    They did! Along alot of other comments, only three left on that post. Was tons of comments about new bike linkage before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Honestly, I hope you and Nathanbal are right... got my money saved and am ready to pull the trigger on this bike the moment it comes out :-D
    Very Soon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52766 View Post
    Mega

    Make Enduro Great Again?
    Ha, I was thinking "Meg" for short.

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    Santa Cruz Megatower-image-1.jpg

    Spotted on Sven Martin's Instagram. Looks like a lower linkage SC and haven't seen that color purple on any Nomads or Bronsons. The rumor mill is in full force!

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    I saw grey and turq with megatower name on the top tube, but who knows if it was real or fake.

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    I think that purple bike is Sebís. Pics date back a few months.


    https://www.instagram.com/sebkemp/p/...=1jrbzbdi2hk4h

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    I think this is still all pure speculation and the old thread would of sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    I think this is still all pure speculation and the old thread would of sufficed.
    Not speculation. 3/19 is around the corner.

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    So is 3/18, doesn't mean we needed a new thread

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    Coil or air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    So is 3/18, doesn't mean we needed a new thread
    True.... But the this thread is appropriately named. 🤗

    The Hightower will live on and should be updated this summer. So the ďfuture HightowerĒ thread is also appropriately named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52766 View Post
    I think that purple bike is Sebís. Pics date back a few months.


    https://www.instagram.com/sebkemp/p/...=1jrbzbdi2hk4h
    Yeah, looks like 27.5 wheels in Waterbooy's pic, it's probably seb's bike with a photo filter on. Bummer, I could really dig a glossy purple paint job :-)

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    Maybe we need a 5th thread to argue about how many threads there should be, in addition to this one I'm posting in right now, the future HT thread, the Nomad 29er thread, and the long travel 29 thread (below).

    Quote Originally Posted by 52766 View Post
    this thread is appropriately named
    Eh... maybe. I'd say that "Santa Cruz long travel 29" is a better name. If there isn't a Megatower after all, this thread will look stupid. If there is one then all the speculation in here will get in the way of discussion of the actual bike upon release.

    Anyway, I'm moving on to thread 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbmaddux View Post
    Maybe we need a 5th thread to argue about how many threads there should be, in addition to this one I'm posting in right now, the future HT thread, the Nomad 29er thread, and the long travel 29 thread (below).



    Eh... maybe. I'd say that "Santa Cruz long travel 29" is a better name. If there isn't a Megatower after all, this thread will look stupid. If there is one then all the speculation in here will get in the way of discussion of the actual bike upon release.

    Anyway, I'm moving on to thread 6.
    😂 Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    Air
    Sure??

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Yeah, looks like 27.5 wheels in Waterbooy's pic, it's probably seb's bike with a photo filter on. Bummer, I could really dig a glossy purple paint job :-)
    Yeah. I'd buy that purple any time. Just a nice color. Plus tire clearance is OK, I'd be more thrilled for a proper 29" 2.6 clearance though. HA appears slack, but it is difficult to say anything about the STA. Maybe not 76 degrees... hard to say. I'm drooling...

    Or is that just custom color Bronson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taildragger View Post
    Sure??
    nothing is sure

    edit: seems like that...

    https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/attach...d-jpeg.837825/
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    That's not a Bronson! Has it been hiding in plain sight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.T View Post
    Yeah. I'd buy that purple any time. Just a nice color. Plus tire clearance is OK, I'd be more thrilled for a proper 29" 2.6 clearance though. HA appears slack, but it is difficult to say anything about the STA. Maybe not 76 degrees... hard to say. I'm drooling...

    Or is that just custom color Bronson?
    Yup, very likely just a regular Bronson or Nomad with a custom color. It's easy to jump to conclusions with all these cropped/filtered spy shots... The 2020 Bronson, Nomad and our hypothetical lower linkage 29er will all look kinda similar. I enjoy the speculation cuz' I'm really pumped for the 'Megatower'... and until we see a high-res-not-blurry photo of the bike, speculating is all we can do :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    It appears the circled areas have differences from the current bronson. Longer shock, gloss paint, decal color. Or are my eyes playing tricks on me?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Santa Cruz Megatower-mega.jpg  


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    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Yup, very likely just a regular Bronson or Nomad with a custom color. It's easy to jump to conclusions with all these cropped/filtered spy shots... The 2020 Bronson, Nomad and our hypothetical lower linkage 29er will all look kinda similar. I enjoy the speculation cuz' I'm really pumped for the 'Megatower'... and until we see a high-res-not-blurry photo of the bike, speculating is all we can do :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    18.3. you should know everything
    March 18th confirmed. This photo is REAL and is NOT CROPPED OR FILTERED.

    Santa Cruz Megatower-img_0228.jpg

    EDIT - The blue in the photo above is also definitely a different blue from the Bronson. It's not gloss, either, the reflectivity is from the glass in front of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbmaddux View Post
    March 18th confirmed.
    Beating Trek's big news by 24 hours. It's all about the timing.
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    They are definitely different frames, the Bronson has rubber fasteners where the cables go into the frame and the other bike has molded carbon joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinjewett View Post
    They are definitely different frames, the Bronson has rubber fasteners where the cables go into the frame and the other bike has molded carbon joints.
    The bronson has moulded carbon cable points on the front triangle and on the rear triangle it has rubber grommets.

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    Confirmed: March 17 is green day.

    Last year's were little green giants, this year will be little rubber grommets. It's happening.

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    All you guys are ally hyped, and I'm here like "can't they bring back the blue on the v3 5010"
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhino View Post
    It appears the circled areas have differences from the current bronson. Longer shock, gloss paint, decal color. Or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

    Expected colors are mint green and dark matte grey 🤔

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    March 18th? I can def sell an organ before then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSession View Post
    March 18th? I can def sell an organ before then. lk
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    Santa Cruz Megatower-20190308-093751-001.jpgSanta Cruz Megatower-20190308-093813-002.jpg

    Lower shocked and purple - maybe just the new color for the Bronson?!
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    Youíd have to assume just a custom coloured Bronson, if the new 29erwas out in the open like that pics would be all over one of the 10 threads about it.

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    I assume Iago is watching this thread and intentionally torturing you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkwingDave View Post
    Lower shocked and purple - maybe just the new color for the Bronson?!
    Thatís the same color as Sebís bike that we saw previously. Could be the same bike, since the post tags Seb...

    EDIT Ė

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    if the new 29erwas out in the open like that pics would be all over one of the 10 threads
    To be fair, the pic is in THIS thread which IS one of the 10 (and counting) threads.
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    Thats definitely not a 29" wheel on the back of Seb's purple bike.

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    You will all be well pissed off when it turns out to be the MegaPower e-bike been released.

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    Coming soon I heard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
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    Any news on head tube angle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielM3 View Post
    Any news on head tube angle?
    Seriously? 65.2į. Thought everybody already knew this.
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    If people are posting specifics like 76.5 STA, thought it was worth an ask.

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    Santa Cruz Megatower-megatower-mockup-dark-grey-mint-green.jpg

    Just for laughs, I photoshopped a Bronson with the alleged frame colors, and tried to put in 29er wheels. It's a sloppy job, and obv. the ST/HT angles are way off...

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    Is this it?

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    Could this be it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy mike View Post
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    Could this be it?
    It surely doesn't look like a Bronson: the rear triangle is asymmetric (the drive side "vertical" brace is missing).

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    Looks like a Nomad painted white. Look at the location of the upper link on the top tube

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    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.
    Linear ratio is not great for coil, progressiveness is needed to stop blowing through the travel.

    All the bikes you have listed have downsides(nothing is perfect)....how about we wait and see what Santa Cruz actually bring out??

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    Linear ratio is not great for coil, progressiveness is needed to stop blowing through the travel.

    All the bikes you have listed have downsides(nothing is perfect)....how about we wait and see what Santa Cruz actually bring out??
    You are correct that flat or regressive is not good for coil. I was referring to the fact that it is not a curve but rather a straight line. I full expect it to mirror the nomand and have a good amount of progression.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Solid opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    Given that the HTLT was only ever a stop-gap until a proper long-travel 29er was developed I wouldn't expect SC to release a direct replacement for it. Gotta keep a decent amount of separation between the models, back-story aside the HT and HTLT are too similar [IMO] to keep producing together once a "proper" LT 29er is released. Both models could/would easily be replaced with a single 140mm travel frame (suitable for 140-160mm forks), and I agree that that is probably a sweet spot for a huge percentage of riders. The new "big bike" will be best suited to those who are regularly riding really fast on really rough terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    Given that the HTLT was only ever a stop-gap until a proper long-travel 29er was developed I wouldn't expect SC to release a direct replacement for it. Gotta keep a decent amount of separation between the models, back-story aside the HT and HTLT are too similar [IMO] to keep producing together once a "proper" LT 29er is released. Both models could/would easily be replaced with a single 140mm travel frame (suitable for 140-160mm forks), and I agree that that is probably a sweet spot for a huge percentage of riders. The new "big bike" will be best suited to those who are regularly riding really fast on really rough terrain.
    Bikes with travel between 140-160mm can be everything ...imho it depends on many other things than the numbers. Geo, fork, kinematic and so on.

    Difference between Bronson and Nomad is a huge 20mil travel but in real life itís not that much you feel on the trail. So i wouldnít say HTLT is for xyz-trails and the mega(whatever)tower with 160mm is for rough stuff
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    Its time for them to update the HT/HTLT, they are a bit outdated compare to other bikes in the market...

    Once the new bikes comes out, they should simplify the 29er lineup. They should keep only 3 bikes equivalent to their 27.5 bikes, plus the Blur (XC) and the new 29 version V10 (DH).

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    I still expect that Santa Cruz's flagship enduro race bike will be a 150-160mm 29er. They may come out with a longer travel park bike in addition. However, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the most successful EWS riders are on 150-160mm.

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    The difference in 150 to 160mm travel is negligible. The real thing setting these bikes apart are suspension design and geometry. Take the SB150 and Ripmo for instance. Similar travel with different results. One is an all mountain machine that can still descend, the other is an enduro sled that isnít all that fun anywhere else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    The difference in 150 to 160mm travel is negligible. The real thing setting these bikes apart are suspension design and geometry. Take the SB150 and Ripmo for instance. Similar travel with different results. One is an all mountain machine that can still descend, the other is an enduro sled that isnít all that fun anywhere else.


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    Saw the new bike on the weekend. Looks good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkwingDave View Post
    Bikes with travel between 140-160mm can be everything ...imho it depends on many other things than the numbers. Geo, fork, kinematic and so on.

    Difference between Bronson and Nomad is a huge 20mil travel but in real life itís not that much you feel on the trail. So i wouldnít say HTLT is for xyz-trails and the mega(whatever)tower with 160mm is for rough stuff
    I would agree with this, however I have not ridden a Bronson 3 to confirm myself it doesnít sound too different than a Nomad from all comments and having a nomad I can confirm it is not some unbearable sled to ride anywhere. It almost makes one wonder why have both and if the suspension kinematic could just be changed by a linkage change moving forward (save production cost on entire frames and just offer different links for more pop etc)

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