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    Santa Cruz Megatower

    Since details are trickling out and the name has been public for a month, figured a new thread was in order.

    Hereís a summary Iíve seen posted various places online:

    Likely Changes

    - 160/160 seems most likely
    - Sub 65 head angle
    - Nomad style linkage
    - steeper seat tube

    Wish list (mine only)

    - Overforking by 10-20mm
    - Fit a Fox X2 rear shock

    Release date- Iíve seen a couple mentions between 3/13 and 3/19

    Questions-

    - Will it replace the HTLT or just supplement it. I couldnít imagine it doesnít replace it, but itís been suggested.

    - Does a new Hightower and Tallboy follow closely behind or not? Iíve heard, no Hightower for awhile

    Could SC streamline their 29er range to 100mm, 120, 140, 160mm?
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    I'm expecting/hoping new wider 29er Reserve wheels to come out with it. 35mm internal width at least.

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    Everything I've read seems to be nothing more than speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnmark View Post
    Since details are trickling out and the name has been public for a month, figured a new thread was in order.

    I was hoping for some overforking, but am excited to see the new colors in person soon!

    What are you hoping for in the Megatower?
    Are you telling me that I have correctly guessed the new bikes name when jokingly called it the Megatower a month ago??

    What details have trickled out that you know of because AFAIK nobody knows anything so far?

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    Kinda hope itís not MegaTower.

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    Agreed ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    Agreed ^^
    Double agreed, IMHO just sounds like a tacky, low budget amusement park ride...

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    Is this bike going to be kept under wraps till itís released?

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    I wish the name was a joke too, but Iíve seen it in print with a reliable source.

    Iím going to update the original with stats Iíve seen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboned View Post
    I'm expecting/hoping new wider 29er Reserve wheels to come out with it. 35mm internal width at least.
    What makes you want 35mm, when SC has 37mm? Just curious.

    Iím happy with my 30mm, hope they donít seem puny in a couple of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Everything I've read seems to be nothing more than speculation.
    Guess it depends what you would call speculation.

    There is a big difference between ďSC would be crazy not to have XYZĒ and ďAn SC employee told me XĒ

    Look around....

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    Anything look different here?




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    37mm would be great but is only available on 27.5 Reserve wheels right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Anything look different here?




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    The red Trek or blue Bronson?

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    The left skid is missing on that …cureuil?
    What, me worry?

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    Yellow bike on the right is the new sled.


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    Sure hope not with the high mount shock. Not V10 like at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    Yellow bike on the right is the new sled.
    Isn't that just the yellow hightower LT? It has the current shock layout.

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    I'm not seeing anything. Unless they have the megatower disguised as a turquoise bronson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Anything look different here?
    Yeah, how dry the grass is!! It was lush last time I was there....

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    Hard to make out anything in that Insta post. Are you sure that's not just a grey Bronson?

    Either way, a 160mm Megatower is definitely coming this spring. Apparently the frames have been available for a couple months, but there's a media embargo until the part specs and supplier terms have been finalized. It was supposed to be announced in Feb but that obviously didn't happen, so I'm not holding my breath on any potential 'reveal' date rumors...

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    I'ts definitely NOT the primer grey Bronson - look at where the sun is on the top tube. It's a matte carbon - and it's definitely not a Nomad. Its hard to tell, but I see a 29er wheel up front and looks 170mm of travel.

    Based on a bunch of media posting on Instagram that they are in NZ riding at Wairoa Gorge (which is supposed to be gnarly), it has to be a media junket riding the new bike. I would have money on a reveal in the next few weeks.

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    March. 100% Some big Santa Cruz names at NZ Enduro this weekend....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    I'ts definitely NOT the primer grey Bronson - look at where the sun is on the top tube. It's a matte carbon - and it's definitely not a Nomad. Its hard to tell, but I see a 29er wheel up front and looks 170mm of travel.

    Based on a bunch of media posting on Instagram that they are in NZ riding at Wairoa Gorge (which is supposed to be gnarly), it has to be a media junket riding the new bike. I would have money on a reveal in the next few weeks.
    This is correct.

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    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??
    Haha!

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    Mega

    Make Enduro Great Again?

    Canít claim credit. Friend was poking fun at the possible name.
    Last edited by 52766; 03-04-2019 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellyxc View Post
    March. 100% Some big Santa Cruz names at NZ Enduro this weekend....
    Honestly, I hope you and Nathanbal are right... got my money saved and am ready to pull the trigger on this bike the moment it comes out :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??
    3 from fully open

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    I smell conspiracy - they've removed a few comments from Nathanbal's Instagram link including the one about the lower link SC 29r!

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    They also photoshopped out the battery and the #ebike in the comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Can you tell how many clicks of rebound heís using too from that picture??
    You seriously can't see it?


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    They did! Along alot of other comments, only three left on that post. Was tons of comments about new bike linkage before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Honestly, I hope you and Nathanbal are right... got my money saved and am ready to pull the trigger on this bike the moment it comes out :-D
    Very Soon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52766 View Post
    Mega

    Make Enduro Great Again?
    Ha, I was thinking "Meg" for short.

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    Santa Cruz Megatower-image-1.jpg

    Spotted on Sven Martin's Instagram. Looks like a lower linkage SC and haven't seen that color purple on any Nomads or Bronsons. The rumor mill is in full force!

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    I saw grey and turq with megatower name on the top tube, but who knows if it was real or fake.

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    I think that purple bike is Sebís. Pics date back a few months.


    https://www.instagram.com/sebkemp/p/...=1jrbzbdi2hk4h

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    I think this is still all pure speculation and the old thread would of sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    I think this is still all pure speculation and the old thread would of sufficed.
    Not speculation. 3/19 is around the corner.

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    So is 3/18, doesn't mean we needed a new thread

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    Coil or air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    So is 3/18, doesn't mean we needed a new thread
    True.... But the this thread is appropriately named. 🤗

    The Hightower will live on and should be updated this summer. So the ďfuture HightowerĒ thread is also appropriately named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52766 View Post
    I think that purple bike is Sebís. Pics date back a few months.


    https://www.instagram.com/sebkemp/p/...=1jrbzbdi2hk4h
    Yeah, looks like 27.5 wheels in Waterbooy's pic, it's probably seb's bike with a photo filter on. Bummer, I could really dig a glossy purple paint job :-)

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    Maybe we need a 5th thread to argue about how many threads there should be, in addition to this one I'm posting in right now, the future HT thread, the Nomad 29er thread, and the long travel 29 thread (below).

    Quote Originally Posted by 52766 View Post
    this thread is appropriately named
    Eh... maybe. I'd say that "Santa Cruz long travel 29" is a better name. If there isn't a Megatower after all, this thread will look stupid. If there is one then all the speculation in here will get in the way of discussion of the actual bike upon release.

    Anyway, I'm moving on to thread 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbmaddux View Post
    Maybe we need a 5th thread to argue about how many threads there should be, in addition to this one I'm posting in right now, the future HT thread, the Nomad 29er thread, and the long travel 29 thread (below).



    Eh... maybe. I'd say that "Santa Cruz long travel 29" is a better name. If there isn't a Megatower after all, this thread will look stupid. If there is one then all the speculation in here will get in the way of discussion of the actual bike upon release.

    Anyway, I'm moving on to thread 6.
    😂 Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    Air
    Sure??

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    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Yeah, looks like 27.5 wheels in Waterbooy's pic, it's probably seb's bike with a photo filter on. Bummer, I could really dig a glossy purple paint job :-)
    Yeah. I'd buy that purple any time. Just a nice color. Plus tire clearance is OK, I'd be more thrilled for a proper 29" 2.6 clearance though. HA appears slack, but it is difficult to say anything about the STA. Maybe not 76 degrees... hard to say. I'm drooling...

    Or is that just custom color Bronson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taildragger View Post
    Sure??
    nothing is sure

    edit: seems like that...

    https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/attach...d-jpeg.837825/
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    That's not a Bronson! Has it been hiding in plain sight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.T View Post
    Yeah. I'd buy that purple any time. Just a nice color. Plus tire clearance is OK, I'd be more thrilled for a proper 29" 2.6 clearance though. HA appears slack, but it is difficult to say anything about the STA. Maybe not 76 degrees... hard to say. I'm drooling...

    Or is that just custom color Bronson?
    Yup, very likely just a regular Bronson or Nomad with a custom color. It's easy to jump to conclusions with all these cropped/filtered spy shots... The 2020 Bronson, Nomad and our hypothetical lower linkage 29er will all look kinda similar. I enjoy the speculation cuz' I'm really pumped for the 'Megatower'... and until we see a high-res-not-blurry photo of the bike, speculating is all we can do :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    It appears the circled areas have differences from the current bronson. Longer shock, gloss paint, decal color. Or are my eyes playing tricks on me?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Santa Cruz Megatower-mega.jpg  


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    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Yup, very likely just a regular Bronson or Nomad with a custom color. It's easy to jump to conclusions with all these cropped/filtered spy shots... The 2020 Bronson, Nomad and our hypothetical lower linkage 29er will all look kinda similar. I enjoy the speculation cuz' I'm really pumped for the 'Megatower'... and until we see a high-res-not-blurry photo of the bike, speculating is all we can do :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilda81 View Post
    18.3. you should know everything
    March 18th confirmed. This photo is REAL and is NOT CROPPED OR FILTERED.

    Santa Cruz Megatower-img_0228.jpg

    EDIT - The blue in the photo above is also definitely a different blue from the Bronson. It's not gloss, either, the reflectivity is from the glass in front of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbmaddux View Post
    March 18th confirmed.
    Beating Trek's big news by 24 hours. It's all about the timing.
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    They are definitely different frames, the Bronson has rubber fasteners where the cables go into the frame and the other bike has molded carbon joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinjewett View Post
    They are definitely different frames, the Bronson has rubber fasteners where the cables go into the frame and the other bike has molded carbon joints.
    The bronson has moulded carbon cable points on the front triangle and on the rear triangle it has rubber grommets.

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    Confirmed: March 17 is green day.

    Last year's were little green giants, this year will be little rubber grommets. It's happening.

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    All you guys are ally hyped, and I'm here like "can't they bring back the blue on the v3 5010"

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhino View Post
    It appears the circled areas have differences from the current bronson. Longer shock, gloss paint, decal color. Or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

    Expected colors are mint green and dark matte grey 🤔

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    March 18th? I can def sell an organ before then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSession View Post
    March 18th? I can def sell an organ before then. lk
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    Santa Cruz Megatower-20190308-093751-001.jpgSanta Cruz Megatower-20190308-093813-002.jpg

    Lower shocked and purple - maybe just the new color for the Bronson?!
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    Youíd have to assume just a custom coloured Bronson, if the new 29erwas out in the open like that pics would be all over one of the 10 threads about it.

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    I assume Iago is watching this thread and intentionally torturing you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkwingDave View Post
    Lower shocked and purple - maybe just the new color for the Bronson?!
    Thatís the same color as Sebís bike that we saw previously. Could be the same bike, since the post tags Seb...

    EDIT Ė

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    if the new 29erwas out in the open like that pics would be all over one of the 10 threads
    To be fair, the pic is in THIS thread which IS one of the 10 (and counting) threads.
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    Thats definitely not a 29" wheel on the back of Seb's purple bike.

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    You will all be well pissed off when it turns out to be the MegaPower e-bike been released.

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    Coming soon I heard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    You will all be well pissed off when it turns out to be the MegaPower e-bike been released.
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    Any news on head tube angle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielM3 View Post
    Any news on head tube angle?
    Seriously? 65.2į. Thought everybody already knew this.
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    If people are posting specifics like 76.5 STA, thought it was worth an ask.

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    Santa Cruz Megatower-megatower-mockup-dark-grey-mint-green.jpg

    Just for laughs, I photoshopped a Bronson with the alleged frame colors, and tried to put in 29er wheels. It's a sloppy job, and obv. the ST/HT angles are way off...

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    Is this it?

    Santa Cruz Megatower-img_7323.jpg

    Could this be it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffy mike View Post
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    Could this be it?
    It surely doesn't look like a Bronson: the rear triangle is asymmetric (the drive side "vertical" brace is missing).

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    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.
    Linear ratio is not great for coil, progressiveness is needed to stop blowing through the travel.

    All the bikes you have listed have downsides(nothing is perfect)....how about we wait and see what Santa Cruz actually bring out??

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac48 View Post
    Linear ratio is not great for coil, progressiveness is needed to stop blowing through the travel.

    All the bikes you have listed have downsides(nothing is perfect)....how about we wait and see what Santa Cruz actually bring out??
    You are correct that flat or regressive is not good for coil. I was referring to the fact that it is not a curve but rather a straight line. I full expect it to mirror the nomand and have a good amount of progression.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    Given that the HTLT was only ever a stop-gap until a proper long-travel 29er was developed I wouldn't expect SC to release a direct replacement for it. Gotta keep a decent amount of separation between the models, back-story aside the HT and HTLT are too similar [IMO] to keep producing together once a "proper" LT 29er is released. Both models could/would easily be replaced with a single 140mm travel frame (suitable for 140-160mm forks), and I agree that that is probably a sweet spot for a huge percentage of riders. The new "big bike" will be best suited to those who are regularly riding really fast on really rough terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    Given that the HTLT was only ever a stop-gap until a proper long-travel 29er was developed I wouldn't expect SC to release a direct replacement for it. Gotta keep a decent amount of separation between the models, back-story aside the HT and HTLT are too similar [IMO] to keep producing together once a "proper" LT 29er is released. Both models could/would easily be replaced with a single 140mm travel frame (suitable for 140-160mm forks), and I agree that that is probably a sweet spot for a huge percentage of riders. The new "big bike" will be best suited to those who are regularly riding really fast on really rough terrain.
    Bikes with travel between 140-160mm can be everything ...imho it depends on many other things than the numbers. Geo, fork, kinematic and so on.

    Difference between Bronson and Nomad is a huge 20mil travel but in real life itís not that much you feel on the trail. So i wouldnít say HTLT is for xyz-trails and the mega(whatever)tower with 160mm is for rough stuff
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    Its time for them to update the HT/HTLT, they are a bit outdated compare to other bikes in the market...

    Once the new bikes comes out, they should simplify the 29er lineup. They should keep only 3 bikes equivalent to their 27.5 bikes, plus the Blur (XC) and the new 29 version V10 (DH).

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    I still expect that Santa Cruz's flagship enduro race bike will be a 150-160mm 29er. They may come out with a longer travel park bike in addition. However, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems the most successful EWS riders are on 150-160mm.

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    The difference in 150 to 160mm travel is negligible. The real thing setting these bikes apart are suspension design and geometry. Take the SB150 and Ripmo for instance. Similar travel with different results. One is an all mountain machine that can still descend, the other is an enduro sled that isnít all that fun anywhere else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    The difference in 150 to 160mm travel is negligible. The real thing setting these bikes apart are suspension design and geometry. Take the SB150 and Ripmo for instance. Similar travel with different results. One is an all mountain machine that can still descend, the other is an enduro sled that isnít all that fun anywhere else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkwingDave View Post
    Bikes with travel between 140-160mm can be everything ...imho it depends on many other things than the numbers. Geo, fork, kinematic and so on.

    Difference between Bronson and Nomad is a huge 20mil travel but in real life itís not that much you feel on the trail. So i wouldnít say HTLT is for xyz-trails and the mega(whatever)tower with 160mm is for rough stuff
    I would agree with this, however I have not ridden a Bronson 3 to confirm myself it doesnít sound too different than a Nomad from all comments and having a nomad I can confirm it is not some unbearable sled to ride anywhere. It almost makes one wonder why have both and if the suspension kinematic could just be changed by a linkage change moving forward (save production cost on entire frames and just offer different links for more pop etc)

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    Does Santa Cruz still have a frame only option with new bike releases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellyxc View Post
    Saw the new bike on the weekend. Looks good!
    Well we all know what it looks like

    I see SC going 100 (Blur) - 120 (Tallboy) - 140 (Hightower) - 160 (Megatower). Really, they could probably get away with 100-130-160.

    Also, Hightower with the Bronson/Nomad linkage...just too bad it won't be out until summertime.

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    That post has been removed. Good catch!

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    Someone couldn't of raced the new bike for a whole weekend without a million racers taking photos of it surely.

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    This guy did..
    The only number 3 listed at the NZ enduro is a girl on a Norco. The plot thickens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboned View Post
    Does Santa Cruz still have a frame only option with new bike releases?
    Usually yes, but in limited #s, it seems there is a "first batch" of bikes/frames and if you miss that there is usually a bit of a wait for the next batch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbqmike View Post
    Usually yes, but in limited #s, it seems there is a "first batch" of bikes/frames and if you miss that there is usually a bit of a wait for the next batch.
    And usually you don't find out that you missed the batch until after you paid for the bike...so make sure you have a bike to ride while you wait.

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    A friend of mine who works at Competitive said to hold tight its coming. He also said no frame option for a couple months. Sux...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.
    This guy, he's onto something.

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    Agreed...
    Competitive said everyone who was looking for 150mm bike will be a bit let down with this because its a step up in bike. It is a huge step up! Going to a 160 rear travel, and a 180 fork. The bike will eat down hill for sure but if you ride buffed out stuff and little roots here and there well, it might feel a bit slugish. If you want a more poppy agile bike the Hightower or Hightower LT might be your better choice. I agree, I don't see this bike as a replacement for the HTLT but who knows, I don't work for SC. Maybe they discountinue the HTLT and bump up the Hightower. We'll see how this play out this summer. There is a few 29ers coming from them so we'll see.

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    And there is the Nomad 29er

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    Agreed...
    Competitive said everyone who was looking for 150mm bike will be a bit let down with this because its a step up in bike. It is a huge step up! Going to a 160 rear travel, and a 180 fork. The bike will eat down hill for sure but if you ride buffed out stuff and little roots here and there well, it might feel a bit slugish. If you want a more poppy agile bike the Hightower or Hightower LT might be your better choice. I agree, I don't see this bike as a replacement for the HTLT but who knows, I don't work for SC. Maybe they discountinue the HTLT and bump up the Hightower. We'll see how this play out this summer. There is a few 29ers coming from them so we'll see.
    Stock with a 180 front fork? That sounds like a bit of a stretch. Most of the talk has been about it being 160 front and rear. How sure are you about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhino View Post
    Stock with a 180 front fork? That sounds like a bit of a stretch. Most of the talk has been about it being 160 front and rear. How sure are you about that?
    i agree - canít imagine the pics above show 180mm fork travel
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    Is that a low end Aeffect stem on a CC level bike? Thatís not a good sign. Wonder where else they are cutting corners on the build.

    I really hope the fix the mistake they made with the Bronson and allow you to fit a Float X2.

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    People will be buying these like hotcakes, only to flip them this summer once the more sensible Hightower is released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wibbly wobbly View Post
    Is that a low end Aeffect stem on a CC level bike? Thatís not a good sign. Wonder where else they are cutting corners on the build.
    Could it be that there will be no Carbon C frame option for Megatower? Build kits starting from S-kit and Carbon CC frame only, like the new V10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wibbly wobbly View Post
    Is that a low end Aeffect stem on a CC level bike? Thatís not a good sign. Wonder where else they are cutting corners on the build.

    I really hope the fix the mistake they made with the Bronson and allow you to fit a Float X2.
    At least as of 2019 - the only bikes with the Turbine R are the XTR & XX1 builds. The X01 CC build....aeffect stem. I was surprised when my buddy's X01 Bronson came with an Aeffect. Thought maybe a bike shop grom nabbed the good stem...nope, it's right there on the SC build sheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    Agreed...
    Competitive said everyone who was looking for 150mm bike will be a bit let down with this because its a step up in bike. It is a huge step up! Going to a 160 rear travel, and a 180 fork. The bike will eat down hill for sure but if you ride buffed out stuff and little roots here and there well, it might feel a bit slugish. If you want a more poppy agile bike the Hightower or Hightower LT might be your better choice. I agree, I don't see this bike as a replacement for the HTLT but who knows, I don't work for SC. Maybe they discountinue the HTLT and bump up the Hightower. We'll see how this play out this summer. There is a few 29ers coming from them so we'll see.
    It would be easy for Santa Cruz to keep the HTLT in the line-up along side the Megatower as long as they keep the Hightower around. I bet they eventually combine the two into a 140mm bike though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    People will be buying these like hotcakes, only to flip them this summer once the more sensible Hightower is released.
    I think it will be released with the same mantra as the Yeti SB150 was..
    - This bike is for racing rough trails, fast.
    - Will likely induce snoring on slower less technical terrain.
    - Majority of people won't need a bike like this

    The SB130 will be fit for most riders situations. (Just like the new Hightower will fill that void here)

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    170/170 - not 160/180.

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    If it has geo similar to the SB150 Iím in

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    The more I hear about this bike the more I wish it were the HTLT that was being released in March...seems like it's gonna be a climbing slug that you can throw downhill with confidence. That's not necessarily the update on the jack-of-all-trades that the HTLT seems to be. I'm looking forward to updated geometry on that bike.

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    It will climb and descend well. The question is how will it perform in anything in between? Wish more reviews covered things like single track, general trail capabilities etc.


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    It'll be a competitor to the Pivot Firebird 29, which gets pretty solid climbing reviews. This beast will be overkill for my needs, but I'm pretty sure it'll be extremely capable.
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    Overkill for me as well, plus Iím not in the market but I do love the excitement around new bikes.


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    Looks like that all the companies fighting who's gonna have the biggest 29er tool... bike...
    If its really gonna be 160/180 it will be too much of a bike for 95% or the people, but in the same time many will get it coz bigger is better...

    That been said, i think it will come 160/160 stock (bigger market for that size), with option to open the fork up to 180.

    Even though im not in the market for 29er, im looking forward to see what they'll bring out. If i had to get one today, i would look elsewhere for more 'sane bike' as a daily drive compare to this future monster.

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    itís a bromad 29er 160/160 (will be able to over fork to 180) 65 head angle and 76 seat tube and can take coil but maintaines the bronson look with double struts.

    itís really nice looking the green is awesome !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyklops007 View Post
    itís a bromad 29er 160/160 (will be able to over fork to 180) 65 head angle and 76 seat tube and can take coil but maintaines the bronson look with double struts.

    itís really nice looking the green is awesome !!
    Only 76 STA? Was hoping for a steeper on a long travel bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyklops007 View Post
    itís a bromad 29er 160/160 (will be able to over fork to 180) 65 head angle and 76 seat tube and can take coil but maintaines the bronson look with double struts.

    itís really nice looking the green is awesome !!
    Awesome first post. Whatís your normal username? Ha ha ha

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    That bike is probably all I ever wanted but... why did it have to be 'mint green'. :-( Edit: Just saw the spyshot with the matte grey, looks nice guess that's my problem solved.
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    That mint green is a Yeti ishh color.

    Anyways Santa Cruz would benefit a lot from custom colors like orbea. That would also be an incitative to buy new vs used.

    Lot of times the new colors arr meh and makes me want more the old versions. Just like you said about that pink bronson that was a hit.


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    I think the other color is flat black with glossy lettering, same as v3 nomad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanro View Post
    Adjustable wheelbase at the rear wheel, v10 style. Dope. That combined with BB height chip will give you many options.
    These, combined with the offset brake mount made me think they might be for width; but you're probably right. This is going to be a cool bike.

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    Ability to run boost or superboost wheels. I assume 110/20 front axles will be in flavor very soon as well.

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    Those dropouts have more height above axle thread point so I would infer adjustable CS length from that.

    If so saweeet! Makes tons of sense, rear center should increase as front center increases to keep the bike balanced. This would be a potentially a more affordable way to do it vs. different rear triangle molds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason745 View Post
    These, combined with the offset brake mount made me think they might be for width; but you're probably right. This is going to be a cool bike.
    Its adjustable wheelbase/rear triangle length.

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    This is a nice option!, especially with the expected price (two bikes with one capability) This option on the future Hightower would help consolidate and streamline models too.

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    8hrs between posts! That's a new record ;-)

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    More like 8hrs between new threads starting haha

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    Why am I so obsessed with checking all of these threads on a daily basis?!

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    Lot's of data about the tube angles, but does anyone have any info about the length of the bike? If the seat tube is indeed steeper, I really hope they compensate by increasing the reach AND effective top tube measurement as well. SC has always been on a smaller side what comes to the length. My wish is 475-485 reach for size L. Same goes for the Hightower 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.T View Post
    Lot's of data about the tube angles, but does anyone have any info about the length of the bike? If the seat tube is indeed steeper, I really hope they compensate by increasing the reach AND effective top tube measurement as well. SC has always been on a smaller side what comes to the length. My wish is 475-485 reach for size L. Same goes for the Hightower 2.0.
    Not likely to be revealed early as itíll trigger the SC hit squad. Hide your IP! Oh no, too late.

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    Spotted on pinkbike video page:
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    There it is! Keen to read the review......seat tube looks slackish, but could just be the angle.

    edit: Well, I assume thats it, unless they used a Bronson for the video thumb nail

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    I think that has to be it. 27.5 36 fork dropouts donít drop below for casting, the 29 does.

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    Seat tube angle is measured from an imaginary line thru center of BB to a point on actual seat tube horizontal to the top of the steer tube. Given this seat tube angle does not seem too slack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    Why am I so obsessed with checking all of these threads on a daily basis?!
    Because you're hoping that someone of your size has gotten their hands on the geo for the XXLÖ.. 515 at the stack height number of the beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big AC View Post
    Because you're hoping that someone of your size has gotten their hands on the geo for the XXLÖ.. 515 at the stack height number of the beast.
    Actually I'm highly concerned that they won't make an XXL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    Actually I'm highly concerned that they won't make an XXL.
    They better have 440+ rear stays if the reach is 515, otherwise you won't have enough weight on the front wheel.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    Actually I'm highly concerned that they won't make an XXL.
    Donít worry, there is an XXL. It drops early next week from what I have heard (and what a number of other people have already posted).

    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    They better have 440+ rear stays if the reach is 515, otherwise you won't have enough weight on the front wheel.
    Yep, by a little bit, it's not a Pole. The dropout chips in SC's vital marketing allow it.

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    I've been hearing "next week" and "tomorrow" and "soon" for long enough.

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    Dealers will have bikes soon too!

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    My LBS in Aus tells me tomorrow my time, which is Friday your time... The wait is killing me!!

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    Santa Cruz Megatower-_dl-fcpjqyoyn0rbuhctdw.jpeg

    uncropped version.

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    Anyone else hoping the headtube angle would be sub 65?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeBro View Post
    Anyone else hoping the headtube angle would be sub 65?
    Put a 170mm or 180mm fork on it and it will. I'm guessing this is how the EWS team will run it.

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    So is it a 160-160 bike? From the photo the fork doesn't seem to be longer than 160 but maybe I am wrong.

    As for the looks I am not that thrilled but maybe it will look better on a XL size.

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    Looks like a L-size frame in the picture, but those wagon wheels make it look rather small. Looking really good, but I prefer Bronson aesthetics
    Last edited by miqu; 03-15-2019 at 06:29 AM.

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    I think it looks good, recently there have been too many bikes coming onto market that look like they have more form than function, with uber skinny top tubes and pretty lines. This looks like it means business, or maybe itís just because itís dark grey and black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeBro View Post
    Anyone else hoping the headtube angle would be sub 65?
    Iím hoping for SB150 geo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Iím hoping for SB150 geo.
    Anyone know if it'll use a reduced offset fork?

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    Cool finally something somewhat concrete out about this bike! Like most others I am more excited about the redesigned Hightower in the 140mm travel range but it seems on par with SC to release the bigger racier bike first. Get the press, hopefully the wins, then the 99%ers bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpgalanis View Post
    So is it a 160-160 bike? From the photo the fork doesn't seem to be longer than 160 but maybe I am wrong.
    160 / 160 but can be run with a longer fork (posts have previously mentioned up to 180).

    Quote Originally Posted by groundskeeperwilly View Post
    Anyone know if it'll use a reduced offset fork?
    I'd guess so, if for no other reason than to keep it looking 'current'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groundskeeperwilly View Post
    Anyone know if it'll use a reduced offset fork?
    Iím sure it will. They made a running change to the spec on their 2019 29ers, and they are all coming with 44mm offset forks. Itís not advertised or noted on the website, but itís true. Since theyíre running 44mm on the current HT and HTLT (I think even Blur and TB too), I canít imagine that theyíd go back to 51mm offset on the new stuff.

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    I think it looks awesome. They've made huge improvements in the looks of these lower link frames since the nomad. Glad it looks closer to the Bronson than the nomad. Finally a legit long travel 29 from SC!

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    https://youtu.be/eVVVR9VieHU

    Someone @mtb-news found a way to download the Pinkbike Video

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    https://youtu.be/eVVVR9VieHU

    Here's the pinkbike video.
    A colleague showed me how to bypass the barrier. Simply pull the video id from the sourcecode and paste in another, free video at the sourcecode. I recorded it on screen and put it on my channel for comfort

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    Now, is the hole big enough for a coil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Now, is the hole big enough for a coil?

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    The Bronson and the Nomad both fit a Super Deluxe coil and DHX2 just fine, Iím sure this will too. Iíve seen Cane Creek and Storia coils on those bikes too. I think the spring diameter of the Push 11.6 is too big for those frames though, so that remains to be seen for this.

    The lingering question is whether the air can on the X2 will fit. Santa Cruz says itís a no go on the Nomad and Bronson, though folks are putting them on size large and up Bronsons with a super tight fit. The Megatower isnít for me, but Iím really interested in seeing what it portends for the Hightower update, with shock fitment being one of the things Iím most interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Iím hoping for SB150 geo.
    You don't have to hope, go with the SB150 and you'll have the geometry you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    You don't have to hope, go with the SB150 and you'll have the geometry you want.
    Maybe he wants a bit more rear tire clearance and a good customer support...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Maybe he wants a bit more rear tire clearance and a good customer support...

    Sent from my moto x4 using Tapatalk
    Plus a threaded BB and a realistic price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekknik View Post
    https://youtu.be/eVVVR9VieHU

    Here's the pinkbike video.
    A colleague showed me how to bypass the barrier. Simply pull the video id from the sourcecode and paste in another, free video at the sourcecode. I recorded it on screen and put it on my channel for comfort

    Any more advice on how to do this? This process does not make sense to me ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekknik View Post
    https://youtu.be/eVVVR9VieHU

    Here's the pinkbike video.
    A colleague showed me how to bypass the barrier. Simply pull the video id from the sourcecode and paste in another, free video at the sourcecode. I recorded it on screen and put it on my channel for comfort
    Says unavailable
    WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by laxman2001 View Post
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    Seems like Pinkbike took the video from their website and also asked our YouTuber here to delete it from his channel. In a German forum, he wrote that Mike Kazimer threatened him. CanĎt even imagine that. ;-)

    Honestly, it was not that interesting. 77 seconds of riding one trail or bike park line without any comments. Filmed from a chest mount. So you didnĎt see much of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogswell23 View Post
    The Bronson and the Nomad both fit a Super Deluxe coil and DHX2 just fine, Iím sure this will too. Iíve seen Cane Creek and Storia coils on those bikes too. I think the spring diameter of the Push 11.6 is too big for those frames though, so that remains to be seen for this..
    Fake news ...the SS version of the 11:6 was made for the Nomad. It wasnt the spring that was the fit problem.

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    Video contained nothing--could have been on any bike aside from the static shot of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwim5 View Post
    Fake news ...the SS version of the 11:6 was made for the Nomad. It wasnt the spring that was the fit problem.
    SS for Nomad, but not for Bronson 3. Shock tunnel too narrow per Push. With the double sided rear triangle like the Bronson, wonder if the 11.6SS will also not play with the MT

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    I'll be interested to know how well it climbs compared to the HTLT. I like my HTLT but it's overkill for my local trails and not quite slack enough for the bike park. Also, since extended the fork to 160mm the slack seat tube puts me (36" inseam) way off the back of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdt0012 View Post
    SS for Nomad, but not for Bronson 3. Shock tunnel too narrow per Push. With the double sided rear triangle like the Bronson, wonder if the 11.6SS will also not play with the MT
    Given the noise that was created re shocks for Bronson, would like to think SC listened but had the same thought. We'll have a new thread for that subject in no time I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    You don't have to hope, go with the SB150 and you'll have the geometry you want.
    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Maybe he wants a bit more rear tire clearance and a good customer support...
    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    Plus a threaded BB and a realistic price.
    Yes and yes plus all my wanker mates have SB150s. Not sure SC is far behind Yeti on their pricing but....
    Last edited by B Rabbit; 03-15-2019 at 02:30 PM.

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    Here it is

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    Mega

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    Pssst....scroll up a bit. You're late to the party

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Now, is the hole big enough for a coil?

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    Yes, from what I have heard you can get it with either coil or air.

    Quote Originally Posted by cogswell23 View Post
    The Bronson and the Nomad both fit a Super Deluxe coil and DHX2 just fine, Iím sure this will too. Iíve seen Cane Creek and Storia coils on those bikes too. I think the spring diameter of the Push 11.6 is too big for those frames though, so that remains to be seen for this.

    The lingering question is whether the air can on the X2 will fit. Santa Cruz says itís a no go on the Nomad and Bronson, though folks are putting them on size large and up Bronsons with a super tight fit. The Megatower isnít for me, but Iím really interested in seeing what it portends for the Hightower update, with shock fitment being one of the things Iím most interested in.
    X2 will fit.

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