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    Finally up and running! Have the X2 dialed in fairly well. 220PSI, 3 tokens, about middle of the road compression settings. 190lb aggressive rider.

    It feels like a more stable Nomad 4. The suspension is definitely more supportive which I enjoy. More length also gives more front end traction if you charge on it! Still very poppy and playful which surprised me.

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    Still need to weigh it. Id guess around 31-32
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    Just picked up a Megatower C R build and going to build a park bike out of it. Should be pretty interesting.

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    Really impressed with the new Lyrik. Should be an option on builds from SC IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    Really impressed with the new Lyrik. Should be an option on builds from SC IMO.

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    Looks pretty slick with the red coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    Really impressed with the new Lyrik. Should be an option on builds from SC IMO.

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    Right! What a great fork! How do you have yours setup?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mtek5 View Post
    I just took my measurement again. I'm actually spot on at 175cm which turns out to be just under 5'9..

    Santa Cruz website has 175cm as being the tallest for a medium. And being the starting point for a large.

    Think I should just go for the large ?

    To be honest I had a Medium Bronson V1 and I always thought I could have possibly gone a size up. I sometimes felt like my knees were getting too close to the cockpit while peddling (if that makes sense). I just sold my 2019 Medium Stumpjumper and while that sizing felt about right, I think a large could have been fine there also.

    Thoughts ?
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    I'm 5'10 with a 30" inseam and ended up getting a large frame. It feels great from a size perspective, however, I had to push the dropper right to the absolute bottom for it to feel comfortable. Another cm or two and I'd either have to put in a 125mm dropper or size down. Just my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    Really impressed with the new Lyrik. Should be an option on builds from SC IMO.

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    So do you find it performing better than GRIP2 36?

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    Any update from the folks that have/had a 7/4 delivery date for a frame? SC pushing it further out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    It's a medium and im 5'8. Quick road test for setup and it feels really nice. Going to ride it all weekend. What I have found with the RS Super Deluxe shocks I have had on a few bikes is that they feel better for me usually running a little more sag than suggested.

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    Can I ask what made you go with the Medium over the Large? I'm spot on 175CM (just about 5'9) and thinking of going with a Large. Happy to have your feedback.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighitboy View Post
    Finally up and running! Have the X2 dialed in fairly well. 220PSI, 3 tokens, about middle of the road compression settings. 190lb aggressive rider.

    It feels like a more stable Nomad 4. The suspension is definitely more supportive which I enjoy. More length also gives more front end traction if you charge on it! Still very poppy and playful which surprised me.

    XL CC
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    170 Reverb
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    XO Eagle drivetrain
    Maxxis EXO+ DHF/DHR
    Still need to weigh it. Id guess around 31-32
    I didn’t view the MT as a downhill specialist but when I look @‘that pic that’s what a I see ... a V10 re done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mtek5 View Post
    Can I ask what made you go with the Medium over the Large? I'm spot on 175CM (just about 5'9) and thinking of going with a Large. Happy to have your feedback.

    Thanks in advance!
    I'm 5'-9" and I'm on a Medium. My Bronson V2, Hightower OG, Nomad V4 were all mediums. Compared to the OG HT the MT feels significantly longer (cockpit) and more stable when it gets steep. The OG HT is easier to maneuver and rail corners. I have to be more aggressive with body position on the MT, however when I am its good. Really good. I would strongly suggest getting an opportunity to throw a leg over one. I did before I ordered mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cblesius View Post
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    Gucci build, going to be fun bombing chunky downhills!

    That seat angle looks worse than the HTLT though...maybe just the pic

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    what frame protection are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanwww View Post


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    Dang close...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkwingDave View Post
    Dang close...
    Yes it is quite close to the rear triangle


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFlex View Post
    what frame protection are you using?
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    Can someone share the total length and thread patch of the MT rear axle? I'm planning build new bike and would change the rear axle for another without lever.

    Many thanks in advance.

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    This is the one that I use

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XBF27Q3

    RockShox Axle, Maxle Stealth Rear MTB, 12x142, Length 167mm, Thread length 20mm, Thread pitch M12X1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanielM3 View Post
    This is the one that I use

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XBF27Q3

    RockShox Axle, Maxle Stealth Rear MTB, 12x142, Length 167mm, Thread length 20mm, Thread pitch M12X1.
    Correct! 142mm length is right despite boost normally has 148.
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    Question for those who owns a Megatower with coil. Im in the middle of getting the frame with coil, but right now my HT LT has DHX2 which is amazing for me, what do you thing about RockShox Super Deluxe Coil compared with fox coil?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regiobike View Post
    Question for those who owns a Megatower with coil. Im in the middle of getting the frame with coil, but right now my HT LT has DHX2 which is amazing for me, what do you thing about RockShox Super Deluxe Coil compared with fox coil?.


    I have ridden my 11-6 on the MT. It felt veryyyyyy good! Piles of traction and very progressive. I am pretty sure any well setup coil will rock on it.
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    [QUOTE=TheNatureBoy;14089855]I didn’t view the MT as a downhill specialist but when I look @‘that pic that’s what a I see ... a V10 re done.

    It is much faster than my Nomad 4! Love it so far! The 11-6 really makes it into a tank. I am pretty happy with it, I have lowered my bar height some with an almost slammed head spacer.
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    Does anyone have any updates on frame only ETA's? I'm around Vancouver Canada and no shops seem to even have the option to order a frame at all.....I would like to get one ASAP.

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    HT LT owners, how do you compare climbing experience with the Megatower compared with the HT LT. In my area there is a of sections for pedaling.
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    I have an HTLT and have demo'ed the Megatower on the trails I've ridden my HTLT on (Oakland, Joaquin Miller Park). I'm an older (50+) rider, about 185 cm tall, and have ridden in the past an xl nomad 26, and Large yeti 5.5, Enduro 29, and the current HTLT. Although I'm older and barely adequate skill-wise, I do post pretty good/above average times, so take all this with that particular grain of salt. My LT has a fox 36 160 up front and an X2 in back. Given the geo I could've probably gone for an XL LT, but opted for the L.
    And before I get into the MT vs HTLT comparison, I'll offer this with regards to my prior rides. The Nomad was a blast, but it's geo (and wheel size) is yesteryear when you look at the reach and effective seat tube angle and overall package. The Yeti climbed extraordinarily well but I felt the least confident descending on it (don't tell that to Richie Rude obviously, he won his two enduro world champs on it and the sb6). I had two iterations of the E29 - a 2015 edition that had a steep ha, up around 67 or 67.5. But it had a dt350 hub, and it climbed really well. I had a later version ('17) that had the ohlins coil on it, and a steeper sa of 76, but no 350 54t ratchet. It was super burly, but I liked the HTLT much more. If you just looked at the numbers - seat angle, head angle, travel - you would think the E29 would blow the HTLT away, but I found the LT to be a way more fun bike to ride. Plus it didn't beat me up as much as the Enduro. The LT climbed better and the comfort aspect - important when you're in the 8th mile of the straight up/straight down aspect of northern california riding - really made a difference. The LT just felt more nimble, accelerated better on the flats, and like I said, I preferred it climbing, even though the LT had a slacker seat angle. Although all of this could also be chalked up to the X2 versus the coil - which at times felt like I was lugging a brick around. And the LT has been awesome on the descents, it's a super capable bike.
    The MT and HTLT offered pretty different riding experiences for me, and I put that mostly to the 76.5 seat angle of the MT, as well as the new shock linkage and slacker head angle. I rode a Large MT (it felt a lot more comfortable than the XL). Climbing, the MT actually feels shorter than the LT, weird because the LT has a 443 reach and the MT is up around 470 - although I run the LT with a 50mm stem and my demo had 40mm. But when you climb, that steep sa really puts your position forward. I liked it - I could get up technical climbs much easier, which I imagine also is due to better traction with the new shock linkage. Even though the LT is a lighter more "trail-oriented" bike, I would take the MT over the LT because the way it positions you conserves your energy better. Similar to how I liked the LT over the E29, because it didn't kill me on the climbs and offered just as good performance on the downs, I preferred the MT over the LT. I think someone earlier on this thread said it well - why wouldn't I want the MT? It does everything the LT does, but better. On the downs, it felt extra plush, and it made me want to lean it in all the turns far more than any of my previous bikes. That's not to bad-mouth the LT - it's an awesome bike and I love riding it, but for me it's a way different experience.
    Now there are lots of variables at play here - the demo I was on was an $8,500 deal, with carbon hoops, an xo eagle drivetrain with carbon cranks, the 350 ratchet hub, the top-of-the-line shock. But taking these out of the equation doesn't change the geo aspects or ride feedback. There was a review, I think on Bike, where its rider Travis E (who obviously is way faster and higher skilled than I am) said how impressed he was with the overall feel of the MT, and it could be your one ride, it's not just a downhill sled. In another someone said they felt the bike was a tad harsh, and not plush. I suspect the Santa Cruz demo staff may play with the suspension set-up a bit to make the ride a tad plusher, but that's really up to the rider, how they set their fork and shock, beyond simple sag set-up.
    But other than the weight penalty (which is nothing in the bigger scheme of hings), I really didn't find any negatives with the MT climbing-wise compared to the HTLT, and even preferred it.

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    phclaw, thank you for the comparison, maybe I've missed, is your LT L or XL? I'm almost in the same age and height ) and stuck in choice between L and XL. My current bike is Bronson 2 XL, and I'd go Megatower L, but very short ETT is confusing me... even more than 1260mm wheelbase in XL.

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    My LT is a Large, I probably could've gone for an XL and been perfectly fine with it. I wouldn't worry about the short ett, that's a by-product of a steeper seat angle. The main issue for you will be how the L and XL (or XXL) feels to you while riding - and that variability you can adjust with stem length, saddle position, length of your dropper, etc. And yes, the MT wheelbase is definitely long and probably one of the reasons I felt more comfortable on a Large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
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    Hey, there. Can you point me to a link with this shock?

    Now that the X01 build is not available until later than Ii would like, I am considering an S Build and upgrading the Rear shock right away.

    Also, does anyone know if the Grip 2 Damper should be tuned to reflect what comes in the X01 build or is it pretty much a universal tune that I would be happy with if I bought the damper to upgrade the fork on the S build?

    Thanks

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    Got my 2020. Can confirm they are still internally shimmed from the 60stroke and not their own shock.

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    Had a nice day out in the local bike park to get her dialed in. I added two tokens to the rear shock and am running 30-31% sag on the SD, I really think they should add a spacer or two from the factory, it totally improved the rear feel for me. I managed to not bottom the rear (despite more than one hard case on some relatively biggish jumps.) But it still feels super grippy up techy / punchy climbs, as well as compliant on rockier descents.

    Every ride reinforces how absolutely brilliant this thing is. She just wants to eat the gnarliest shit you can throw at her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phclaw View Post
    My LT is a Large, I probably could've gone for an XL and been perfectly fine with it. I wouldn't worry about the short ett, that's a by-product of a steeper seat angle.
    I'm worry about ETT because I used to climb a lot at some places (about 1500-2000m daily). Unsure I can adjust saddle position to get a comfortable effective cockpit length on Megatower L (ETT 619 vs 651 on my current Bronson XL). Really need an adjustable stem. )

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    Can someone please post a frame weight of this beast!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TamiJean View Post
    Got my 2020. Can confirm they are still internally shimmed from the 60stroke and not their own shock.

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    Nice. Can you point me in the right direction with which one fits ? Is this the 230x60 0r 230x57.5 ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by mtek5 View Post
    Nice. Can you point me in the right direction with which one fits ? Is this the 230x60 0r 230x57.5 ?



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    This is the 230/57.5

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    Couple questions on sizing and frame protection.

    For those on the border of L or XL, which way did you go? I am 186cm tall with a 190cm wingspan. Leaning toward XL, but the long wheelbase is giving me some doubt. Coming from an XL HTLT, which fits well. I have ridden the XL and it felt great in the cockpit while climbing and pedaling, but definitely a long bike. Anyone that has sized up feeling like it would have been better to go the other direction?

    Second - for TamiJean specifically - how is ridewrap frame protection? How was the install process and the end result? Was planning on DIY with some rolls of film, but the ridewrap tailored kit looks nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACC View Post
    Couple questions on sizing and frame protection.

    For those on the border of L or XL, which way did you go? I am 186cm tall with a 190cm wingspan. Leaning toward XL, but the long wheelbase is giving me some doubt. Coming from an XL HTLT, which fits well. I have ridden the XL and it felt great in the cockpit while climbing and pedaling, but definitely a long bike. Anyone that has sized up feeling like it would have been better to go the other direction?

    Second - for TamiJean specifically - how is ridewrap frame protection? How was the install process and the end result? Was planning on DIY with some rolls of film, but the ridewrap tailored kit looks nice.
    The ride wrap was a solid product. I liked how it laid out vs the invisiframe. Water/soap ratio is crucial for having less big bubbles under the wrap. It takes time. I probably rushed mine a bit and only give myself 8/10 on the install. It was late, I wanted to ride the bike and so on. I still use ams in high contact areas but other than that the kit is nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACC View Post
    For those on the border of L or XL, which way did you go? I am 186cm tall with a 190cm wingspan. Leaning toward XL, but the long wheelbase is giving me some doubt. Coming from an XL HTLT, which fits well. I have ridden the XL and it felt great in the cockpit while climbing and pedaling, but definitely a long bike. Anyone that has sized up feeling like it would have been better to go the other direction?
    I am 186 cm tall, decided to go for XL and now that I have the bike I am still sure it was the right decision. If you liked the XL MT, the XL HTLT or maybe the XL Bronson then why not go for XL? I definitely would not choose size based on wheelbase.

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    Beast is finished. Can confirm it hauls ass.

    Came off a Large LT, onto a Large MT @ 178cm

    35 stem
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    175 post (only just fits with my 81 inseam)

    14.9 w/ DD tyres (the assegai is about 1300g) - should be able to get to low 14s with a DD/Exo+ combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by squid-ward View Post
    Beast is finished. Can confirm it hauls ass.

    Came off a Large LT, onto a Large MT @ 178cm

    35 stem
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    175 post (only just fits with my 81 inseam)

    14.9 w/ DD tyres (the assegai is about 1300g) - should be able to get to low 14s with a DD/Exo+ combo
    Noice Noice!!

    So the 175mm Transfer can't be slammed to collar on a large?...is what i gather from your comment.

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    nice Bike @squid-ward....what Setup do you ride on the Float X2?

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    Per recommendation of RockShox mechanic I throw a gnar dog token in the Super Deluxe. It feels much better now. Even more supportive and move the willowy spot above the sag. I had a X2 on my Hightower before and this feels just as good if not better. Less knobs to fiddle with as well. I always felt like I didn’t have them dialed correctly.


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    My dealer in Germany told me that he‘ll get the L frame I ordered on the 23rd of June. Let‘s see if they really deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanro View Post
    Per recommendation of RockShox mechanic I throw a gnar dog token in the Super Deluxe. It feels much better now. Even more supportive and move the willowy spot above the sag. I had a X2 on my Hightower before and this feels just as good if not better. Less knobs to fiddle with as well. I always felt like I didn’t have them dialed correctly.


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    Right now I'm running a Gnar dog and a regular token, the LSC 2 clicks from closed, and around 29% sag. It still feels a bit wallowy and like I don't have much support until the last bit of travel. I think I'm going to have to get the MegNeg air sleeve or go to an X2. I'm still confused how some people can run 32% sag, no volume spacers and have the LSC all the way open. I'm 215 lb which isn't light but not full on clyde territory either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy3220 View Post
    Right now I'm running a Gnar dog and a regular token, the LSC 2 clicks from closed, and around 29% sag. It still feels a bit wallowy and like I don't have much support until the last bit of travel. I think I'm going to have to get the MegNeg air sleeve or go to an X2. I'm still confused how some people can run 32% sag, no volume spacers and have the LSC all the way open. I'm 215 lb which isn't light but not full on clyde territory either.
    Im about the same with all the gear on. 230psi, 4 clicks LCS, 3 rebound. 32% sag or so. Maybe your rebound is too fast? Do the oscillation curb test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHQd4mzl3Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodontinae View Post
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    Had a nice day out in the local bike park to get her dialed in. I added two tokens to the rear shock and am running 30-31% sag on the SD, I really think they should add a spacer or two from the factory, it totally improved the rear feel for me. I managed to not bottom the rear (despite more than one hard case on some relatively biggish jumps.) But it still feels super grippy up techy / punchy climbs, as well as compliant on rockier descents.

    Every ride reinforces how absolutely brilliant this thing is. She just wants to eat the gnarliest shit you can throw at her.
    Looks like Semper Dirticus Entry @ Duthie... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanro View Post
    Im about the same with all the gear on. 230psi, 4 clicks LCS, 3 rebound. 32% sag or so. Maybe your rebound is too fast? Do the oscillation curb test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHQd4mzl3Y
    I feel like the rebound is the one thing that feels right. It's mainly the compression stroke I have an issue with. Slower rebound might help the wallowing on climbs but won't help blowing through the travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkej View Post
    I'm 5'-9" and I'm on a Medium. My Bronson V2, Hightower OG, Nomad V4 were all mediums. Compared to the OG HT the MT feels significantly longer (cockpit) and more stable when it gets steep. The OG HT is easier to maneuver and rail corners. I have to be more aggressive with body position on the MT, however when I am its good. Really good. I would strongly suggest getting an opportunity to throw a leg over one. I did before I ordered mine.
    Thanks for this feedback! I pulled the trigger on a Medium S Build with Coil. Fingers crossed the sizing is all good.

    I also have not yet tried a coil so that should be pretty interesting.

    Planning to buy the Fox X2 as well and will see which one I prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkej View Post
    Looks like Semper Dirticus Entry @ Duthie... ?
    Close - it is the roll in to the big step up right next to voodoo child. Not sure if this feature is named? I'll call it big ****in step up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_double View Post
    Noice Noice!!

    So the 175mm Transfer can't be slammed to collar on a large?...is what i gather from your comment.
    Yup its at the bottom of the 'A' can get a measurement at some point.. But was very close to going back to a 150

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    Quote Originally Posted by andi73 View Post
    nice Bike @squid-ward....what Setup do you ride on the Float X2?
    LSR 12, HSR 9, LSC 12, HSR 11, 2 tokens and 210 psi @ 80kg (176lb).

    Haven't had many rides on it yet as have been injured but will let you know once i've done some tinkering!

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    let me know what do you thing about RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate vs DHX2 for the Megatower.
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    Coil Shock Sag Point Recommendations

    Anyone running a coil shock – what's your experience with spring weights and sag? I'm 200lbs with gear, on a 500 spring. I end up with just over 25% sag, and know I should move down to a 450... but the rear suspension just feels so nice, plush & still supportive right now!
    Did anyone try different spring weights and sag points on a coil setup? Will 30-33% sag feel even better? Thanks!!!

    (Edit: Running it in high, short chainstay config right now. I know that if I go down in spring weight, I may need to switch to low position for more progression.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtek5 View Post
    Thanks for this feedback! I pulled the trigger on a Medium S Build with Coil. Fingers crossed the sizing is all good.

    I also have not yet tried a coil so that should be pretty interesting.

    Planning to buy the Fox X2 as well and will see which one I prefer.
    I prefer a coil lately. Even switched my OG HT to a Push when (1) came up locally used. I sent it back to push to be tweaked for my weight and spring. I had a Fox X2 on my Nomad V4 and never felt like I could get it in a sweet spot after a few months of screwing around with it (even used a shockwiz). I eventually switched the Nomad to a Fox DHX2 coil.

    Quote Originally Posted by lankycrank View Post
    Anyone running a coil shock – what's your experience with spring weights and sag? I'm 200lbs with gear, on a 500 spring. I end up with just over 25% sag, and know I should move down to a 450... but the rear suspension just feels so nice, plush & still supportive right now!
    Did anyone try different spring weights and sag points on a coil setup? Will 30-33% sag feel even better? Thanks!!!

    (Edit: Running it in high, short chainstay config right now. I know that if I go down in spring weight, I may need to switch to low position for more progression.)
    Interesting. My MT coil (medium) shipped with a 450 spring. And I'm about 200 lbs with gear. I'm not sure where sag is at, but it feels good. Haven't had it at a lift serve bike park yet, but lots of rides at the local trails from jump/drop bike park to the steep and raw. So far the 450 feels like the right spring, but I can't say I am a super aggressive rider. The Nomad V4 DHX2 and HT OG Push 11-6 springs are both heavier springs fwiw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkej View Post
    I prefer a coil lately. Even switched my OG HT to a Push when (1) came up locally used. I sent it back to push to be tweaked for my weight and spring. I had a Fox X2 on my Nomad V4 and never felt like I could get it in a sweet spot after a few months of screwing around with it (even used a shockwiz). I eventually switched the Nomad to a Fox DHX2 coil.



    Interesting. My MT coil (medium) shipped with a 450 spring. And I'm about 200 lbs with gear. I'm not sure where sag is at, but it feels good. Haven't had it at a lift serve bike park yet, but lots of rides at the local trails from jump/drop bike park to the steep and raw. So far the 450 feels like the right spring, but I can't say I am a super aggressive rider. The Nomad V4 DHX2 and HT OG Push 11-6 springs are both heavier springs fwiw.
    Are you currently on the S build with the Select + Coil then? Just out of curiousity, since I'm 5'9 (175cm) as well, did you happen to try the large for comparison? I'm unable to try them out where I am from so hoping the Medium is the right fit for my height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkej View Post
    My MT coil (medium) shipped with a 450 spring. And I'm about 200 lbs with gear. I'm not sure where sag is at, but it feels good. Haven't had it at a lift serve bike park yet, but lots of rides at the local trails from jump/drop bike park to the steep and raw. So far the 450 feels like the right spring, but I can't say I am a super aggressive rider. The Nomad V4 DHX2 and HT OG Push 11-6 springs are both heavier springs fwiw.
    Thanks Clarkej! I'm on an XL MT... 500 spring felt great at Highland Bike Park and racing more mellow trails in PA this weekend. That said, I'm a cautious rider and don't huck most of the big stuff. End of day I'll run whatever spring feels good regardless of sag. But, I was curious whether anyone had tried different weights and felt 'going softer' was reaping any benefits.

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    What is the biggest difference of the MT v HTLT?

    The HTLT is 150-150 yet people describe it as a great climber and actually nimble in certain spots.

    The MT seems to be painted in as a bike park machine not a trail bike


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNatureBoy View Post
    What is the biggest difference of the MT v HTLT?

    The HTLT is 150-150 yet people describe it as a great climber and actually nimble in certain spots.

    The MT seems to be painted in as a bike park machine not a trail bike


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    This is how I would compare them after owning an LT for 2 years and now on a Mega,

    If left in their stock and unmolested forms

    The LT struggles to decide if it wants to be a trail bike or a harder hitting all mountain bike. The DNA of the LT is the HT which is an actual trail bike and feels more like an HT with the exception of some more squish for jumps, drops, and very hard hits. It can be pushed which lots of people have by adding longer forks and stuff but I want to keep this comparison between stock bikes. It does climb well in terms of efficiency but lacks in reacting to terrain well enough which can cause spin outs.

    The DNA of the mega is more Bronson/Nomad. It can be set up to peddle very well or be more plush. I have experienced both ways. I don't think it can be built up as light as a LT though but that's just my opinion. The rear suspension reacts better on climbs and descents and the seat tube angle puts you in a more comfortable position. Descending the Mega has the LTs cake and then some. It doesn't make the LT irrelevant but it's noticably better in every aspect.

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    Currently waiting for a medium frame. Have a 170mm reverb ready. 29 inch inseam, based on previous comment re large frame does this mean the 170 won’t fit in the medium frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND79 View Post
    Currently waiting for a medium frame. Have a 170mm reverb ready. 29 inch inseam, based on previous comment re large frame does this mean the 170 won’t fit in the medium frame.
    If it doesn't get the 185mm bikeyoke. It gives you more travel while being shorter inside of the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtek5 View Post
    Are you currently on the S build with the Select + Coil then? Just out of curiousity, since I'm 5'9 (175cm) as well, did you happen to try the large for comparison? I'm unable to try them out where I am from so hoping the Medium is the right fit for my height.
    I'm on a XO build so I have the Ultimate Coil. Arm length and riding style are the two things could impact medium vs. large. I generally feel like Im on top of a large and riding in a medium. The only "recent" large I have felt comfortable on was a Fezzari LaSal Peak. Everything else I have tried recently medium seems to be my sweet spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNatureBoy View Post
    What is the biggest difference of the MT v HTLT?

    MT seems to be painted in as a bike park machine not a trail bike
    I have a OG HT and a MT. I have found that if I am just out having fun on XC trails the MT is fine. But if I'm on the MT and trying to keep up with an XC crowd on XC trails, its the wrong tool. Could it be a 1 bike. Sure, but probably not appropriate if you only ride XC trails. I have fun on MT on everything except really narrow, tight XC stuff. Then it just feels big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND79 View Post
    Currently waiting for a medium frame. Have a 170mm reverb ready. 29 inch inseam, based on previous comment re large frame does this mean the 170 won’t fit in the medium frame.
    Being 5'8" with the legs of a Hobbit, I recently ran into the exact same issue. Here is what I came up with:

    The stock 150mm reverb has an total length of 440mm. When I test rode the Medium Megatower at the shop, I noticed that the dropper collar was nowhere near the seat collar, so I assumed that I would easily be able to run a longer dropper post.

    What I came to find out is that on all the posts that I've researched, the difference between a 150mm drop and 175mm drop post is not simply 25mm, it's usually closer to 60mm due to the increased overall length necessary to accommodate the drop.

    This made is such that the 175mm Fox transfer that I wanted to run bottomed out in the frame before reaching my desired height,

    The longest dropper I was able to fit was a BikeYoke 160.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimal1 View Post
    Being 5'8" with the legs of a Hobbit, I recently ran into the exact same issue. Here is what I came up with:

    The stock 150mm reverb has an total length of 440mm. When I test rode the Medium Megatower at the shop, I noticed that the dropper collar was nowhere near the seat collar, so I assumed that I would easily be able to run a longer dropper post.

    What I came to find out is that on all the posts that I've researched, the difference between a 150mm drop and 175mm drop post is not simply 25mm, it's usually closer to 60mm due to the increased overall length necessary to accommodate the drop.

    This made is such that the 175mm Fox transfer that I wanted to run bottomed out in the frame before reaching my desired height,

    The longest dropper I was able to fit was a BikeYoke 160.
    Another one to potentially try is the OneUp 170. Worst case is you shim it to 165 or 160 as needed. It has a short insertion (hah!) relative to other droppers. I have a OneUp 170 post on my OG HT.

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    Yes, I agree with that conclusion. Although if where you ride is relatively flatter, punctuated with short, punchy ups and downs (I guess that could be termed "trail", which seems to be a bit more than "xc") versus really steep, much rougher stuff (which in yesterday's parlance might've been "all-mountain" and today you might call "enduro"), the stock LT, or just about any 130-150 mm travel bike, is the better call. Plus the LT with other bikes in the longer travel end of that trail bike category can handle the rougher stuff and parks if you're doing that on the rare occasion. It really just depends on where you ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phclaw View Post
    Yes, I agree with that conclusion. Although if where you ride is relatively flatter, punctuated with short, punchy ups and downs (I guess that could be termed "trail", which seems to be a bit more than "xc") versus really steep, much rougher stuff (which in yesterday's parlance might've been "all-mountain" and today you might call "enduro"), the stock LT, or just about any 130-150 mm travel bike, is the better call. Plus the LT with other bikes in the longer travel end of that trail bike category can handle the rougher stuff and parks if you're doing that on the rare occasion. It really just depends on where you ride.
    Good point. I can put it in another perspective from the trail systems I am familiar with.
    I'd rather have my OG HT in Sedona, Raging River (WA) flow trails, Tucson AZ trails (with the exception of Mt. Lemmon). Hood River, OR.

    I'd rather have my MT on Mt Lemmon, AZ. Whistler, Bootleg Canyon, NV. Exit 27 (WA),

    I could ride either bike at Tokul or Tiger in WA. Sedona is a bit of push. I've ridden Sedona on more Enduro style bikes and more trail oriented bikes and I could be convinced either direction.

    If I was riding (All WA trails): Soaring Eagle, 360 Park, Lord Hill, Paradise, Grand Ridge I'd probably bring my Canfield EPO (hardtail).

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    Anybody move to the long chainstay position? After I moved mine it's not wanting to shift in the middle of the cassette. I checked the hanger alignment. The instructions didn't mention having to readjust the b screw or anything. I'll check the b screw next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phclaw View Post
    the stock LT, or just about any 130-150 mm travel bike, is the better call. Plus the LT with other bikes in the longer travel end of that trail bike category can handle the rougher stuff and parks if you're doing that on the rare occasion. It really just depends on where you ride.
    I don‘t know about other brands but the HTLT wouldn‘t work for me in the bikepark. I‘m a heavy rider weighing 210 and would have to put too much pressure in the shock to not bottom out. The frame has just too little end progression. That‘s why I got rid of it and am waiting impatiently for my MT frame (with coil) to arrive.

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    Sounds like I may have same issue. hobbit being a good description 😀
    Looking on line it looks like overall length of a reverb is less than transfer. Will pop to the bike shop later and have a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy3220 View Post
    Anybody move to the long chainstay position? After I moved mine it's not wanting to shift in the middle of the cassette. I checked the hanger alignment. The instructions didn't mention having to readjust the b screw or anything. I'll check the b screw next.
    You have put a different deraileur hanger right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanro View Post
    You have put a different deraileur hanger right?
    Yeah, new derailleur hanger and flipped the chip in the non drive side (and swapped brake mount of course). I'm wondering if maybe I need to pull a bit more cable housing through the seat stay. Maybe it's just binding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy3220 View Post
    Yeah, new derailleur hanger and flipped the chip in the non drive side (and swapped brake mount of course). I'm wondering if maybe I need to pull a bit more cable housing through the seat stay. Maybe it's just binding.
    Not new hanger, different hanger for the longer option, there are 2 different ones.

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    Anyone try running the Fox DPX2 on this bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanro View Post
    Not new hanger, different hanger for the longer option, there are 2 different ones.
    I used the appropriate hanger for the longer position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy3220 View Post
    I used the appropriate hanger for the longer position.
    Check the chain length as well.
    I think you just need to play with the adjustment screws a bit more.

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