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    Quote Originally Posted by minimusprime View Post
    They won't get any cheaper then what competitive is selling them for right now. They are basically being sold at cost + just enough to justify the labor to box and ship them.
    The only Size L HTLT’s I see on CompCy are current 19 models for $2999 (frame)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronxbomber252 View Post
    The only Size L HTLT’s I see on CompCy are current 19 models for $2999 (frame)
    Yeah it just seems that the big sale on them over last several weeks sold out the '18 Larges.

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    I’m in no rush, my old TBLT is serving me fine.

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    So when is the new Hightower ( not lt) supposed to be released?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.T View Post
    Too bad 135 mm rear keeps popping for regular HT. I truly hope they'd go for 160/150 with updated geo. I really don't need 170 rear travel in 95% of my riding, but I'd like more rear than current 135 mm to beef up some confidence to my drops.
    I changed my OG HTLT to 140ish travel using a 200x57 coil shock than reducing it to 200x54. The coil shock itself (CCDB) made the bike much better. I dont have 150 travel (tire rubs frame if use 57mm stroke/ 150 mm travel in "low" position), but the bike is very close or even better than HTLT and keeping the "flip chip" adjustability, also with possiblity to run plus tires without getting too low changing the chip to "high". Paid a considerably lower price for the frame comparing to a LT.

    The new Hightower should be an awesome bike and the current one will be availiable a lot cheaper when the new one arrives, excellent oportunities will come soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo666 View Post
    So when is the new Hightower ( not lt) supposed to be released?


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    Got my new CC frame from Backcountry for $2K OTD. Also scored a sick deal on a new ENVE M70/30 HV wheelset with I9’s. Not the latest but still pretty rad in my book.

    Now I just have to decide if I’m going to wait out the 30 day return period and see if a new bike is launched or just start building and be content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.T View Post
    Too bad 135 mm rear keeps popping for regular HT. I truly hope they'd go for 160/150 with updated geo. I really don't need 170 rear travel in 95% of my riding, but I'd like more rear than current 135 mm to beef up some confidence to my drops.
    Even though the current HT and HTLT are separated by only 15mm of travel and are supposed to ride similar, i'd have to imagine that if SC was going to build 2 new hightowers that they would make them more different, 160/150mm seems like quite a bit for a standard hightower trailbike as that's even more than the current LT. The current LT, to my knowledge, is extremely similar to the regular hightower and is just a regular hightower with a few tweaks, i'd imagine that if SC updates the bikes, they would go all the way and make a strictly enduro hightower lt and a trailbike standard hightower.

    Since i'm getting around everywhere on my 125mm trailbike just fine, I personally hope that SC keeps the new regular hightower under 150mm of travel. The current hightower seems almost perfect on paper, a tiny bit more travel and updated suspension linkage and clearance for a wider rear tire would be nice, but otherwise I have come close to ordering one (I think I mentioned it earlier in this thread?).

    Plus the small bump sensitivity is one thing i'd like to see improved on the next gen hightowers, I hope the new suspension designs would do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT View Post
    -My $$$ is on July.
    I really hope it comes out in may or before but it sounds like this is probably when. If I like it and decide to buy one, it would be nice to start the driest parts of the year with a new bike, rather than buy it mid summer and only get a few months before the trails get muddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapperdownhiller View Post
    Got my new CC frame from Backcountry for $2K OTD. Also scored a sick deal on a new ENVE M70/30 HV wheelset with I9’s. Not the latest but still pretty rad in my book.

    Now I just have to decide if I’m going to wait out the 30 day return period and see if a new bike is launched or just start building and be content.

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    “A bike in hand is worth two in the bushel”.

    Nice components. Would be too tempting for me to resist building that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by msbihli View Post
    “A bike in hand is worth two in the bushel”.

    Nice components. Would be too tempting for me to resist building that...
    Agreed. Finished the wheels today. Currently working on the Invisiframe.

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    Might be some new rumors about the new LT flying around soon.

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    CC just told me they expect something mid-March

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    At Sedona Bikefest today an SC employee told me 3/13 is the media release date. Also the new bike is bigger in every way than the HTLT and is not replacing either HT in the lineup. Guess we will see if that is BS or not...

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    I’ve heard 160/160. Bronson linkage. 29er. Time will tell..

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    Buckle your seatbelts (for two weeks or so)!

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    Mitch, Mark, and krunk shox have all disappeared from Instagram since Mitch's post about getting new wheels for the "new bike"

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    Could the new wheels be 12x157?


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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    Could the new wheels be 12x157?


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    I hope not. I'm sure a 157 spaced hub builds into a better wheel, but I'm uninterested in buying into the standard at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    I hope not. I'm sure a 157 spaced hub builds into a better wheel, but I'm uninterested in buying into the standard at this point.
    Totally agree. It would have made more sense if the industry had just gone to 157 and skipped 148. Not interested now.

    I was not thrilled to see Salsa jump on the 157 bandwagon with their new models. Not that I was planning on getting a Salsa bike, I just see it as an ominous sign when more companies adopt 157.

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    Ben Cathro just did a YouTube post about Santa Cruz becoming a sponsor of his. He said they’re sending him a new frame that he was really excited about but that’s all he could say.

    We are very very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankmiester View Post
    Ben Cathro just did a YouTube post about Santa Cruz becoming a sponsor of his. He said they’re sending him a new frame that he was really excited about but that’s all he could say.

    We are very very close.

    That was a week ago :/

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    Local bs said tomorrow for new 29er lt


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    Oh if only

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo666 View Post
    Local bs said tomorrow for new 29er lt


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    Damn, really?

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    Lets face it, its never coming out. The current LT will be the same for generations, maybe some color changes, but thats it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    Damn, really?
    This thread has already confirmed it's coming out sometime in February 2019. Mark your calendar.

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    Coming soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo666 View Post
    Local bs said tomorrow for new 29er lt


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    So then I guess tomorrow we’ll find out what local BS stands for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by msbihli View Post
    So then I guess tomorrow we’ll find out what local BS stands for...
    Local Booty Shop?

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    Well it’s tomorrow in australia today and I ain’t seen sh!t

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    A lot of Santa Cruz reps, riders and photogr. are now in New Zealand but everyone is out of the radar right now. No new posts, no new IG stories, nothing. Must be something..

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    There’s plenty of trolling on this forum

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    Yep there's a gathering in Nelson NZ for the new 29 enduro sled, presumably so will be released in time for Crankworks Rotorua later this month.

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    I spoke with a very reliable source that has seen the bike in person in Barcelona being tested by Iago Garay. He says Nomad style linkage and long travel 170/160 ish. New exiting colors too
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrialsCartel View Post
    I spoke with a very reliable source that has seen the bike in person in Barcelona being tested by Iago Garay. He says Nomad style linkage and long travel 170/160 ish. New exiting colors too
    Coming here and dishing out boners like that. How rude! ;D

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    So sounds like there is a new long travel Hightower coming out but what about the original one. Anyone hear of any plans to update the regular 135mm Hightower???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin39 View Post
    So sounds like there is a new long travel Hightower coming out but what about the original one. Anyone hear of any plans to update the regular 135mm Hightower???
    June.

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    Only speculation at this stage, although most people expect that if the original HT remains in the lineup it will have updated geometry and perhaps a little bit more travel, but otherwise won't be significantly different. Who knows though! It does seem like a lot of bikes in the range: Blur, TB, HT, HTLT and/or Mega, V10.

    Someone posted in another thread here recently that much anticipated long travel 29 would be in addition to the current Hightowers, but I'd wonder if the sort of rider that is on the HTLT now would still prefer it if a 'Nomad 29er' was available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin39 View Post
    So sounds like there is a new long travel Hightower coming out but what about the original one. Anyone hear of any plans to update the regular 135mm Hightower???
    I've heard from 3 different dealers it'll be summer before the rest of the 29er lineup comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stock.man View Post
    It does seem like a lot of bikes in the range: Blur, TB, HT, HTLT and/or Mega, V10.
    Can't imagine that, something will have to change with the current line-up IMO. Having a range of bikes with 100mm, 120mm, 140mm and 160mm travel makes more sense than 100mm, 110mm, 135mm, 150mm, 160mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    Can't imagine that, something will have to change with the current line-up IMO. Having a range of bikes with 100mm, 120mm, 140mm and 160mm travel makes more sense than 100mm, 110mm, 135mm, 150mm, 160mm.
    Agree ... Blur (100), TB (120), HT (140) and MT (160) seems to be the most logical lineup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Agree ... Blur (100), TB (120), HT (140) and MT (160) seems to be the most logical lineup.


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    Sounds about right, the LT more or less becomes redundant. I'd wager that 99% of present HTLT riders want to be on the new 29er anyway.

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    I've heard mid-month from more than 1 source, and none of those sources are connected to each other. I have an LT but if something new pops up I'll just buy the frame and swap everything over... reputable source it's on a tuesday within the next 2 weeks...
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    is he cousins with milly vanilly (sp)? That was too funny...

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    some SC riders allready selling their new 2019 Hightowers LT on PB

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbal View Post
    Agree ... Blur (100), TB (120), HT (140) and MT (160) seems to be the most logical lineup.


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    Obviously the big bike will have Nomad style suspension and the TB will remain as it is, the question is will the 140mm bike keep the current upper link driven set up of the Hightower or will it have a similar suspension lay out to the new Bronson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David R View Post
    Obviously the big bike will have Nomad style suspension and the TB will remain as it is, the question is will the 140mm bike keep the current upper link driven set up of the Hightower or will it have a similar suspension lay out to the new Bronson?
    I would be surprised if they changed the shock mounting location to the Bronson/ Nomad location as it would likely negatively affect the climbing abilities the current bike has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M320 View Post
    I would be surprised if they changed the shock mounting location as it would likely negatively affect the climbing abilities the current bike has.
    I'm surprised SC hasn't hired you before they started to work on the new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themanro View Post
    I'm surprised SC hasn't hired you before they started to work on the new bike.
    Really !? .......... keep trolling.

    Just MY .02 as a current Hightower owner and former Tallboy LTc owner. Just what I think makes the Hightower unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M320 View Post
    Just what I think makes the Hightower unique.
    Current HT (and LT of course) is the only model with OG Nomad style shock upper mounting to the downtube instead of top tube. So they are unique in that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbmaddux View Post
    Current HT (and LT of course) is the only model with OG Nomad style shock upper mounting to the downtube instead of top tube. So they are unique in that way.
    I was leaning more towards the very good climbing of a bike with this intended use and travel. But also a very good point.

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    Well they better hurry up and announce because I'm eyeing a Capra Pro 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    Well they better hurry up and announce because I'm eyeing a Capra Pro 29er.
    Well that will definitely make them release it sooner then!

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    Not on topic, but here’s an updated pic of my build. Ran out of cable housing for the seatpost and I’ll trim the brake lines today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M320 View Post
    I would be surprised if they changed the shock mounting location to the Bronson/ Nomad location as it would likely negatively affect the climbing abilities the current bike has.
    Going by the comments from people riding the new Bronson perhaps not? Don't think I've heard anyone suggesting it climbs "worse" than the old model.

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    The future Hightower

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    Going by the comments from people riding the new Bronson perhaps not? Don't think I've heard anyone suggesting it climbs "worse" than the old model.
    Agreed. I have heard the Bronson climbs great for a 150mm all Mountain/ Enduro bike. I just don’t know that a Bronson and a Hightower would be apples to apples. Although there is not a direct 27.5 comparison , I would think the 5010 would be a closer comparison to the standard Hightower.

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    What’s that?


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    It’s a custom colour on a Bronson unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamlance View Post
    It’s a custom colour on a Bronson unfortunately
    =(eh...

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    Ok, here’s the deal: There’s a new bike coming at beginning of April. This bike will have suspension similar to Bronson and Nomad but will be a 29er. It will have 160 shock 170 fork. It’s the Santa Cruz long travel enduro bike. The interesting thing is it won’t replace the Hightower LT, so if you are in the market for a 29er long travel bike wait till April for the new bike or get a new LT for you with up to 30% discount. This is hot from SC employee so everything else is gossip.

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    The real question is will be have SB150 style Geo? Steep seat tube, long reach, 46mm offset fork (thats probably a given) and a slacker then 65HA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    The real question is will be have SB150 style Geo? Steep seat tube, long reach, 46mm offset fork (thats probably a given) and a slacker then 65HA.

    Super enduro is my bet. The suspension design lends itself to being super plush.
    Quote Originally Posted by alexbn921 View Post
    I'm going to put this out there.
    The Megatower is not a replacement for the Hightower LT.
    It's just not the same bike and it's not the bike that 95% of people need.

    It's a mini DH sled. A downhill bike the "can climb". Moving the shock to the lower link produces a great suspension curve that is independent from anti squat ratio. This linear ratio is great for coils and flatting every single rock in front of you. I'm sure it will stick like glue and plow threw everything in it's path at high speed.

    Now if you need a trail bike that can handle medium/slow speed and likes to pop off of stuff this will be a disappointment. Outside of full on DH tracks and warp speed, this will be not fun and a life suck to climb with.

    I'm looking forward to the updated Hightower as I believe it will be much more versatile, fun bike. Bikes like the SB130, Hightower/LT, Offering and Ripmo are all in the sweet spot of trail riding with almost no downsides.

    Feel free to flame away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chowdapilot View Post
    The difference in 150 to 160mm travel is negligible. The real thing setting these bikes apart are suspension design and geometry. Take the SB150 and Ripmo for instance. Similar travel with different results. One is an all mountain machine that can still descend, the other is an enduro sled that isn’t all that fun anywhere else.
    Making shit harder than it needs to be isn't awesome, it's just...harder.

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    I’m betting Tuesday or next Tuesday according to my sources / 2 different sources confirmed... here’s a hint on color... green eggs and ham were not available in the movie, the black hole....

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    Something new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Something new?
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    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    considering the new colors are a "type" of green and black, that's a good bet!

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    Yeah its a gloss light green/baby blue mix and matt back with Santa Cruz gloss logos. No frame option for a couple months, only kits.

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    I know the 2018 Nomad brown color didn't grow on me for quite a while. I'm very curious about the green - AND - how the heck they come up with their colors? I wish they had something like Trek where you could customize the entire build/colors. Thanks for confirming what I mentioned about "green eggs and ham were not available in the movie the Black hole" as the "hints" to the colors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    No frame option for a couple months, only kits.
    Is this becoming a new trend, because it seems like more releases are going this direction lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Is this becoming a new trend, because it seems like more releases are going this direction lately?
    Not sure if its a trend but they are not planning on shipping frame options out until 2 months after they've dispatched full Megatower kits. I think its a business decision to purposely sell kitted bikes. Could be many folks want frames only and they would have to sit on bulk purchased forks, tires, rims, and group sets.

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    So is Megatower the name or just a placeholder on this thread?

    Hopefully this bike can accommodate shocks from more vendors.

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    So many thread, so little time

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    I have a bike I want to tear down and put all the "stuff" on this new bike - so bummed if I can't get a frame-only I love the Bronson and Nomad, so gotta add this to my "quiver."

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    I'm still tuning in for a redesigned standard Hightower. Long travel 29ers are cool and all but not a proper daily driver bike for me. Give me a new 140 mm SC wagon wheeler, please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSession View Post
    I'm still tuning in for a redesigned standard Hightower. Long travel 29ers are cool and all but not a proper daily driver bike for me. Give me a new 140 mm SC wagon wheeler, please!
    What changes are you looking for? STA/HTA? Different colors? Redesigned link/shock?

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    Im sitting here waiting to buy a new bike but since its seem to lean towards a 160/160 semi-dh bike and I want a new bike that I can use for normal trail riding also. I should prolly buy a discounted 2018 Hightower LT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSGN View Post
    Im sitting here waiting to buy a new bike but since its seem to lean towards a 160/160 semi-dh bike and I want a new bike that I can use for normal trail riding also. I should prolly buy a discounted 2018 Hightower LT?
    In my opinion no. personal preference, but I prefer the regular hightower over the LT. The replacement for the oght/htlt is pending this summer if you're a rumor mill believer. I would wait to see what's coming out before buying an LT.

    Typically, i do not give this advice, the waiting game for bikes is a rather short sighted game to play. But the LT was a stop gap measure based on a bike that came out in 2016 meaning it was designed in 2014/2015. A lot has happened since then, and the new versions of VPP are vastly improved in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6foot4 View Post
    What changes are you looking for? STA/HTA? Different colors? Redesigned link/shock?
    I rode a new 5010 recently and loved the geo and fit. I really hope the new Hightower is a more or less a 29er 5010.

    But I don't have any outstanding complaints with my current HT. The BB is a little low but that won't change. If I were to nitpick I wouldn't mind a steeper STA. I've been hammering mine since early spring 2016 and I'd like to replace it with an updated version. More of a new bike itch than anything.

    I've just been so hugely impressed with my current HT I can't imagine with replacing it with anything else as my go to carbon FS bike.
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    All you guy complaining and wanting updated geo. Well Santa Cruz heard, and your wish came true.

    The future Hightower-9031f089-c5ce-4017-97c1-d6c520d5b51e.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Something new?
    New Michelin tires!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmithr1 View Post
    All you guy complaining and wanting updated geo. Well Santa Cruz heard, and your wish came true.

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    So many questions.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSession View Post
    So many questions.......
    The rider for has none...he obviously knew what he wanted
    MY18 Santa Cruz Hightower LT

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmithr1 View Post
    All you guy complaining and wanting updated geo. Well Santa Cruz heard, and your wish came true.

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    Looks like something you'd see here in FL cruising a beach boardwalk.

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    So is this bike dropping tomorrow or not???

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    According to anyone of the 6 threads, yes, tomorrow is the day.

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    Here is a picture of what I assume is the Megatower
    The future Hightower-img_3182.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Here is a picture of what I assume is the Megatower
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    where is it from?

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    Screen shot from pinkbikes video section https://www.pinkbike.com/video/search/?q=megatower

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    That is a loooooong upper chain stay!

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    1:18 video awaits anyone who can guess the password

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    Haha, had a couple of guesses before, no luck. Who would of thought a password not being "admin".

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rabbit View Post
    Haha, had a couple of guesses before, no luck. Who would of thought a password not being "admin".
    "Admin"

    "SantaCruz"

    "1234"

    well ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg10 View Post
    1:18 video awaits anyone who can guess the password
    Any Russian hackers out there?

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    They won’t be interested bro, pinkbike ain’t the DNC

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    I thought they released on Tuesday’s, and I thought it was last Tuesday or next, but I’m down for tomorrow!

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