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    The 2019 Santa Cruz Bronson (v3)

    The 2019 Santa Cruz Bronson (v3)-xmy19_bronson_blue_outside_v2.jpg

    Announced today. Details from Santa Cruz. 10mm longer in the front, still 150mm rear. Lower and slacker. Adjustable flip chip. Can be built 27.5+, but not 29. All models are Eagle-equipped. Frame-only options are $1999 (Al) and $3299 (CC). Of course it has the lower-link driven shock just like the Nomad (v4). Rear brake line routing is completely internal. Dual uprights on the rear triangle.

    The release video is a must-watch. Did you get all the references from the rats?

    First-ride reviews:


    Shoot-out reviews (batches of bikes reviewed against each other):


    NSMB has an interview with Santa Cruz product manager Josh Kissner about both this bike and the 5010 v3, as well as a long-term review that expands on their original posting into 3 acts.

    Pinkbike has a full review of the new Bronson. The author is Mike Kazimer, who was the most positive about the Bronson of the three reviewers during the field tests (see above). During this review he compared it positively to the Kona 153 CR 27.5, but he notably did NOT put it up for comparison against the Yeti SB 150, which was his favorite bike from the field test in the trail/enduro category "with the Santa Cruz Bronson coming in a close second."

    Previous Bronson threads: V2 and V1 (aka the picture thread).

    Ride video: Trail Peek has POV video of riding the new Bronson in Downieville.
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    someones a Santa Cruz N E R D !

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    Thank you!

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    5 month wait for a frame in New Zealand, what a joke. Was so keen to jump from yeti to Santa Cruz with the new V3 Brosan but already been waiting 3months for the realease so another 5 just wonít fly. Looking else where now, any recommendations, 27.5, similar travel, geo important, especially the mid/long reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    5 month wait for a frame in New Zealand, what a joke. Was so keen to jump from yeti to Santa Cruz with the new V3 Brosan but already been waiting 3months for the realease so another 5 just wonít fly. Looking else where now, any recommendations, 27.5, similar travel, geo important, especially the mid/long reach.
    Order it online from a US shop, youíll have it in a few weeks. Mine left the SC factory today,

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    I was gonna say that it's a lot like the 2015 Transition Patrol.

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    Has anybody seen the different colored badges? It appears that the CC frames have a black badge with red lettering and th C frames have a black badge with white lettering. Appears to be consistent across other models as well

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    Had a Bronson v1 and Iím really liking the new geo and linkage but canít decide if I want to go back to 27.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanzaiRider View Post
    Order it online from a US shop, youíll have it in a few weeks. Mine left the SC factory today,
    Theyíre not allowed to ship out of USA and Iím not so keen on not having the dealer back up with a carbon frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Theyíre not allowed to ship out of USA and Iím not so keen on not having the dealer back up with a carbon frame.
    There is nothing like a nice justification for a mountain bike vacation, you combine the pickup of the new bike with a week of riding! Personnaly I wouldnít worry much about dealer backup, SC has a great reputation for warranty problems and I think you can deal with them directly for that. Anyway, the most important is to select the best bike for you, when you pay thousands of dollars you donít want to compromise on a frame that is not #1 on your list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    5 month wait for a frame in New Zealand, what a joke. Was so keen to jump from yeti to Santa Cruz with the new V3 Brosan but already been waiting 3months for the realease so another 5 just wonít fly. Looking else where now, any recommendations, 27.5, similar travel, geo important, especially the mid/long reach.
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    I really like the specs on this bike. I can't wait to demo one (even though I'm 100% satisfied with my current bike). I love that it has room for 2.8s, along with the 5010. Way to go Santa Cruz!

    Not crazy about SC promoting drug use as "cool" in their release video, but the bikes look great.

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    NSMB.com has a follow-up interview with Josh Kissner from Santa Cruz, about the Bronson and 5010 v3.

    We have some demos arriving around here in about 2 weeks; will report back if I can get away from work.

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    What is the length of the dropper post on the Bronson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanzaiRider View Post
    There is nothing like a nice justification for a mountain bike vacation, you combine the pickup of the new bike with a week of riding! Personnaly I wouldnít worry much about dealer backup, SC has a great reputation for warranty problems and I think you can deal with them directly for that. Anyway, the most important is to select the best bike for you, when you pay thousands of dollars you donít want to compromise on a frame that is not #1 on your list.
    Now that sounds like a plan 👍👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by bedell99 View Post
    What is the length of the dropper post on the Bronson?

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    Obviously frame size dependant but Will be at least a 150, possibly a 170 on the large as the Nomads come with that and the seat Post is shorter on the Bronsan

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    No-one is complaining that you can't fit an angleset into Bronson3 due to the integrated headset? Or is 65HA considered as slack as slack should be?

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    Waiting on my frame arriving now. Got a DPX2 ready and waiting to fit on it. Hopefully it will be here within the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Waiting on my frame arriving now. Got a DPX2 ready and waiting to fit on it. Hopefully it will be here within the week.
    Rick,

    Are you still going to keep your Nomad as well? If so I'll be very curious what you think of the two back to back. I think you mentioned your Nomad was full coil now right? Do you plan on keeping the Bronson full air?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Waiting on my frame arriving now. Got a DPX2 ready and waiting to fit on it. Hopefully it will be here within the week.
    My C S+ build should arrive Thursday or Friday, I might be able to ride it on the weekend, fingers crossed!

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    How is yours arriving so fast ? I ordered my 5010 C S build the day before the actual reveal and was told it wonít arrive till late August or early September .... what am I missing here ? Are you from different country or what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanzaiRider View Post
    My C S+ build should arrive Thursday or Friday, I might be able to ride it on the weekend, fingers crossed!
    How is yours arriving so fast ? I ordered my 5010 C S build the day before the actual reveal and was told it wonít arrive till late August or early September .... what am I missing here ? Are you from different country or what ?


    basically Iím jelly ..... haha how can I get mine faster !

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Rick,

    Are you still going to keep your Nomad as well? If so I'll be very curious what you think of the two back to back. I think you mentioned your Nomad was full coil now right? Do you plan on keeping the Bronson full air?
    Nomads gone today. The Bronson looks perfect for what I need, slack head angle, 150mm out back 160mm up front. The Nomad is a great bike and does pedal well for a 170mm bike but on longer 30 mile rides its too much for the terrain on my doorstep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Nomads gone today. The Bronson looks perfect for what I need, slack head angle, 150mm out back 160mm up front. The Nomad is a great bike and does pedal well for a 170mm bike but on longer 30 mile rides its too much for the terrain on my doorstep.
    Excited to hear your comparo. Not a fan of the old Bronson, but love the Nomad. Curious to hear how much better the new Bronson is in the saddle going uphill. Dropped my bike at the shop today for a suspension refresh and they dont even have any new Bronsons in stock yet, which is surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teej83 View Post
    Excited to hear your comparo. Not a fan of the old Bronson, but love the Nomad. Curious to hear how much better the new Bronson is in the saddle going uphill. Dropped my bike at the shop today for a suspension refresh and they dont even have any new Bronsons in stock yet, which is surprising.
    Yes they seem thin on the ground at the minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Nomads gone today. The Bronson looks perfect for what I need, slack head angle, 150mm out back 160mm up front. The Nomad is a great bike and does pedal well for a 170mm bike but on longer 30 mile rides its too much for the terrain on my doorstep.
    Rick, where do you ride, what kind of terrain?

    I too am curious as to N4 coil vs Bronson V3 air. Iím wondering if they complement each other or if there is too much overlap?

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    Trying to decide on size between m/l. Iím 5í10 and Iíve always been on medium evils and I had a medium v1 Bronson when it first came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Trying to decide on size between m/l. Iím 5í10 and Iíve always been on medium evils and I had a medium v1 Bronson when it first came out.
    Definitely in-between size. Do you like longer bikes with short stems < 40mm or shorter bike with longer stems? >50mm.

    For what it's worth, I'm 5' 7" and small Evils always felt too small for me. Medium is practically perfect with 40mm stem. I do like the stability of longer bikes. I'd say large for you.

    Do you want stability or BMX playfulness? I feel 27.5 already gives that more playful feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Trying to decide on size between m/l. Iím 5í10 and Iíve always been on medium evils and I had a medium v1 Bronson when it first came out.
    Same boat here except L/XL, 6'1" with 33.5 inch inseam and relatively long arms for height. Have always ridden large and am currently on a large Yeti and do feel a little cramped, but they run rather short so bit concerned the jump from 448 current reach to 490 on xl bronson might be a bit much but according to the sizing chart and because of my long arms Santa Cruz are recommending an XL. Any input appreciated, Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCJG View Post
    Rick, where do you ride, what kind of terrain?

    I too am curious as to N4 coil vs Bronson V3 air. Iím wondering if they complement each other or if there is too much overlap?
    I would bet there will be a lot of overlap. Similar suspension design. Close to same geo. Travel not too far off. One will undoubtably pedal a bit better and maybe be a bit poppier but I have a feeling they will be pretty close

    On the other question - Iím 6í1.5Ē with long arms and ride an XL Nomad. Came from a large N3 which was too small. I feel I could ride either a large or XL with the new bikes but XL is a bit better fit. Given I ride Colorado and everything is high speed and rocky, I like the bigger size. Havenít had issues getting it around switchbacks

    If SC is saying they recommend XL, id go that route. Can always put a shorter stem on if needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylpickel View Post
    How is yours arriving so fast ? I ordered my 5010 C S build the day before the actual reveal and was told it wonít arrive till late August or early September .... what am I missing here ? Are you from different country or what ?
    I ordered my Bronson a bit more than a week before it was announced. The SC rep was at my local shop that day and he booked it immediately. I'm in Canada and my shop told me last Thursday that it had just left the SC warehouse so if they shipped ground I should probably get it this Friday or early next week. Unless an SC clerk decided to pedal it up from California to Canada!!! haha

    By the way I also saw a gray one at a shop demo event this weekend so there are definitely some that have started arriving in shops.

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    The frame weight for a Large CC with shock is 5.79 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cant Climb View Post
    The frame weight for a Large CC with shock is 5.79 pounds.
    Really? Is that yours or verified at a shop? That's what I read a while ago, which is about 1.5 lbs lighter than a Nomad I think. But the NSMB article said there was only about .25 difference between the Nomad and Bronson...so curious what is correct.

    But if so, that's hella light for how capable it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Really? Is that yours or verified at a shop? That's what I read a while ago, which is about 1.5 lbs lighter than a Nomad I think. But the NSMB article said there was only about .25 difference between the Nomad and Bronson...so curious what is correct.

    But if so, that's hella light for how capable it is.
    See at the 2:25 mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aasgLvmmV-Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cant Climb View Post
    So completely unverified by a Youtuber. He got the high and low flip chip settings mixed up...

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    I spoke to someone at SCB on Friday and they said a Medium CC frame was 5.8 Lbs. I have a hard time believing this since Kissner stated in the NSMB article it was only .25 Lbs. lighter than the N4.

    The person I spoke with also confirmed the Fox 36 has a 44mm offset, not 37mm.

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    That weight is also what I saw in one of the articles online, but can't remember which. This youtube may be from the same source.

    Either way, I want to see one of these (and the new 5010) hanging off a scale and verified. If it's really only .25 lighter than a Nomad at 7.2 lbs or so for a large with SD Air, then that's a lot of overlap. If it's the weight in the video, less overlap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00 View Post
    I spoke to someone at SCB on Friday and they said a Medium CC frame was 5.8 Lbs. I have a hard time believing this since Kissner stated in the NSMB article it was only .25 Lbs. lighter than the N4.

    The person I spoke with also confirmed the Fox 36 has a 44mm offset, not 37mm.
    I can see the 5010 being that light, but not the Bronson. The 5010 looks to have smaller looking frame tubes similar to the blur, where the Bronson has larger tubes like a Nomad.
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    I was at my LBS in Santa Cruz over the weekend and a Large Bronson V3 X01 Reserve build with plastic shop pedals was 30 lbs. 8oz. on their park tools scale.

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    Waiting on my frame arriving now. Got a DPX2 ready and waiting to fit on it. Hopefully it will be here within the week.
    Are you going straight at it or has it been especially tuned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moranpepe View Post
    Are you going straight at it or has it been especially tuned?
    Straight at it out of the box (will be a MM tune I believe) and then I will make any adjustments to the valving I feel it needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Straight at it out of the box (will be a MM tune I believe) and then I will make any adjustments to the valving I feel it needs.
    sweet. I just placed an order for a L frame. I'm at 5'11" coming from a Yeti SB6. Really excited to try it out and although I've always used Fox, I'm going to try out the Super Deluxe RCT before making any decisions on it. Let me know how it feels with the DPX2.

    I currently have one on my SB5 and I like it a lot.

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    Saw one in a shop this weekend up in VT. Shop dude said he's sold 5 of them already, and that was on Friday. Parking lot pedaled it around the lot. Felt good I guess. Wrong size and suspension not setup for me so impossible to tell. I'm short and have a small N4 which fits me perfectly. The medium B3 felt really big to me. Like there isn't any way I could live with it. In comparison the Medium N4 felt big but I could live with it.

    This was a lower end build but it felt pretty hefty. Considerably heavier than my blinged out N4. The tubes aren't that much smaller than the N4. I would be surprised if it were any lighter than the N4. Maybe by a little.

    The lady who was looking to buy it was probably about 5'7". With the 150 dropper as low as it could go in the seattube (about an inch from the collar) it was too tall for her. So either a 125 or a different dropper would be necessary for her.

    Overall bike looked pretty sweet. Really liking the Nomad4 so I'm not really that interested. The lack of support for DHX2/X2 makes it a no-go in my book. Silly that they only offer them with Rockshocks on the rear. I asked the SantaCruz rep about that with the Nomad. He didn't have a good answer for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by moranpepe View Post
    sweet. I just placed an order for a L frame. I'm at 5'11" coming from a Yeti SB6. Really excited to try it out and although I've always used Fox, I'm going to try out the Super Deluxe RCT before making any decisions on it. Let me know how it feels with the DPX2.

    I currently have one on my SB5 and I like it a lot.
    The Super Deluxe RCT is not a bad shock at all, it works well and does a job. I just prefer Fox suspension though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyak View Post
    Overall bike looked pretty sweet. Really liking the Nomad4 so I'm not really that interested. The lack of support for DHX2/X2 makes it a no-go in my book. Silly that they only offer them with Rockshocks on the rear. I asked the SantaCruz rep about that with the Nomad. He didn't have a good answer for me

    Cheers!
    If/When Fox make a 210x55 DHX2 it should fit the Bronson reading what people have said. Its only the X2 and Cane Creek IL/DBA that apparently dont fit due to the air can size.

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    So who is doing a custom build with a primer grey cc frame and a red lyrik.🔥🔥🔥

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    Still canít decide on size. I had a nomad 4 in large and I felt is was hard to handle while seated in corners but maybe I have just been used to riding smaller bikes. Thinking Iím gonna keep my following mb so Iíll probably do a large Bronson. And the colors are so damn good that I canít decide. I have a drunken olive following mb and a dark green Rocky Mountain solo cross bike so I might go industry blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Still canít decide on size. I had a nomad 4 in large and I felt is was hard to handle while seated in corners but maybe I have just been used to riding smaller bikes. Thinking Iím gonna keep my following mb so Iíll probably do a large Bronson. And the colors are so damn good that I canít decide. I have a drunken olive following mb and a dark green Rocky Mountain solo cross bike so I might go industry blue.
    While the industry blue is certainly an eye catcher I think itís definitely a one season color just like the pink Bronson or aqua ďmagentaĒ Nomadís that no one wants anymore.

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    I still love the pink Bronson and aqua nomad colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    The Super Deluxe RCT is not a bad shock at all, it works well and does a job. I just prefer Fox suspension though.
    I'm with you, this bike should have a factory dpx2, and optional dhx2 coil... in a perfect world.

    Oh and let us custom order paint to sample colors!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Hill View Post
    While the industry blue is certainly an eye catcher I think itís definitely a one season color just like the pink Bronson or aqua ďmagentaĒ Nomadís that no one wants anymore.
    The Miami Vice Nomad is the best colorway SC has come with in recent years. Only thing close is the Tennis Ball Yellow Bronson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    So who is doing a custom build with a primer grey cc frame and a red lyrik.
    Me, almost! I have a primer grey C S+ build on order and the shop will swap the Fox 36 on it with a red Lyrik. Should get it by end of this week or sometimes next week. I'll post a pic as soon as I have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondre3000 View Post
    The Miami Vice Nomad is the best colorway SC has come with in recent years. Only thing close is the Tennis Ball Yellow Bronson.

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    My Fav was the Orange OG Solo's.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    So who is doing a custom build with a primer grey cc frame and a red lyrik.🔥🔥🔥
    That's the great thing about that primer grey is you could do the red lyrik, orange 36, dvo green, or blue Helm and all would look fantastic.

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    Arrived Friday....

    S C build in primer grey. It pedals much better than my 2018 5010. Steeper seat tube works well on this frame. buget DT Swiss 370 hubs are crap, replacing with i9 enduro 305s. Reverb dropper still not as good as 9.8 fall line. Make those two changes and this bike rocks.

    Wolftooth iscg5 chain guide does not work due to the recessed nature of the frame around the bottom bracket, would need a few spacers but seems like would interfere with rear triangle.

    Iíll be posting some video reviews on YouTube channel MTB Plan B in the coming weeks.

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    How tall and what size frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    That weight is also what I saw in one of the articles online, but can't remember which. This youtube may be from the same source.

    Either way, I want to see one of these (and the new 5010) hanging off a scale and verified. If it's really only .25 lighter than a Nomad at 7.2 lbs or so for a large with SD Air, then that's a lot of overlap. If it's the weight in the video, less overlap.
    SC's website says 29.14 lbs for the '19 Bronson CC X01 Reserve.

    My '18 Nomad CC X01 Reserve had a claimed weight in the low 28s. Haven't had a chance to weigh mine yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00 View Post
    I spoke to someone at SCB on Friday and they said a Medium CC frame was 5.8 Lbs. I have a hard time believing this since Kissner stated in the NSMB article it was only .25 Lbs. lighter than the N4.

    The person I spoke with also confirmed the Fox 36 has a 44mm offset, not 37mm.
    Maybe that's without the shock? I see plenty of SC frames hanging at the LBS with no shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scpage View Post
    S C build in primer grey. It pedals much better than my 2018 5010. Steeper seat tube works well on this frame. buget DT Swiss 370 hubs are crap, replacing with i9 enduro 305s. Reverb dropper still not as good as 9.8 fall line. Make those two changes and this bike rocks.

    Wolftooth iscg5 chain guide does not work due to the recessed nature of the frame around the bottom bracket, would need a few spacers but seems like would interfere with rear triangle.

    Iíll be posting some video reviews on YouTube channel MTB Plan B in the coming weeks.

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    Looks really good!

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    S C build in primer grey. It pedals much better than my 2018 5010
    Looks good!

    But it seriously pedals better than the 5010v2? That thing was like a rocket when you got on the pedals.
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    Anyone have thoughts about putting a shorter offset fork on the new Bronson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scpage View Post
    Wolftooth iscg5 chain guide does not work due to the recessed nature of the frame around the bottom bracket, would need a few spacers but seems like would interfere with rear triangle.
    Curious about this comment.

    I haven't seen any pictures of the frame only and all the built bikes don't look like they have bash guards.

    Any more information on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Curious about this comment.

    I haven't seen any pictures of the frame only and all the built bikes don't look like they have bash guards.

    Any more information on this?
    I have to imagine there is a fit out there. Nomad came with one and the bottom bracket area is similar. Dunno if the nomad chain guide would fit though

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    Quote Originally Posted by teej83 View Post
    I have to imagine there is a fit out there. Nomad came with one and the bottom bracket area is similar. Dunno if the nomad chain guide would fit though
    Look closely on the shots of Ratboy from the release video and it looks like he has a ethirteen one on the bike he is riding, same as nomad one.
    And this from website
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    Yes, this bike is equipped with ISCG-05 tabs for easy chainguide mounting. Most chainguides on the market that are made for this standard should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Look closely on the shots of Ratboy from the release video and it looks like he has a ethirteen one on the bike he is riding, same as nomad one.
    And this from website
    Can I mount a chainguide to my bike?
    Yes, this bike is equipped with ISCG-05 tabs for easy chainguide mounting. Most chainguides on the market that are made for this standard should work.
    So is it the two bolt style bash/guide that works?

    The new stumpy only has two of the ISCG-05 tabs so maybe it's similar to that?
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    Assuming the Bronson is like the Nomad, I used a OneUp Bash on my Nomadv4.

    I tried two older MRP guides and they would work. Was was the full 3 bolt and hit the chainstay if I remember. The second was had the cut out near the 9'oclock position (can't remember if 2 or 3 bolt), but it for a 38t ring or something and was too tall, and again hit the frame where it protruds for the chunnel area.


    I'd guess the E13 or OneUp would work fine on the Bronson thought, they are pretty similar in design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    So is it the two bolt style bash/guide that works?

    The new stumpy only has two of the ISCG-05 tabs so maybe it's similar to that?
    Three tabís , can see them on the photos on website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    So who is doing a custom build with a primer grey cc frame and a red lyrik.🔥🔥🔥
    I am, will post a picture tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by teej83 View Post
    I have to imagine there is a fit out there. Nomad came with one and the bottom bracket area is similar. Dunno if the nomad chain guide would fit though
    I just installed a One Up Chain and Bash on mine...

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    The 2019 Santa Cruz Bronson (v3)-2019-bronson-v3.jpg Better pics will be posted tomorrow

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    Bradical, very interested in your thoughts Bronson V3 vs your N4 when you get some time on the new bike, thanks!

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    damn $4400 for the base carbon? and 34.5 lbs for the alum?

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    Bryce has a Super Deluxe coil on his Bronson now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Bryce has a Super Deluxe coil on his Bronson now.
    Interesting... so it fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTTR View Post
    Interesting... so it fits.
    Yes, photos are on his Instagram story.

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    Darn, I just dumped my R shock for a RCT , hmmmm. I would have probs ordered a coil if I knew this. Oh well , maybe later

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    Here is mine.

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    Man these look good.

    Roman, would love to know how you think it compares/how much it overlaps with the Nomad when you get more time on it.
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    I know SC say not compatible with 29, but who is going to be the first to try?

    Surely the new 27+ Bronson is a pretty close preview to the next HTLT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Man these look good.

    Roman, would love to know how you think it compares/how much it overlaps with the Nomad when you get more time on it.
    You bet im heading out on a 10 day road trip tomorrow thru a few states to ride and I plan to put it thru it's paces.

    Quote Originally Posted by rwo View Post
    I know SC say not compatible with 29, but who is going to be the first to try?

    Surely the new 27+ Bronson is a pretty close preview to the next HTLT...
    Already tried and it's a no go

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    If the next Hightower LT has the same design I am sold. I currently ride a OG Hightower and have a Nomad (V3). Looking to go down to one bike.

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    Here is mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    Here is mine.

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    That is so sick!! How tall and what size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    That is so sick!! How tall and what size?
    5'8 med

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    That's Rad. Rom3n, I believe you were a big Evil Fan before right? And owned a Following, Insurgent and Calling? Would love to hear your comparison with regards to climbing and descending. Trying to decide between a Calling and the new Bronson. Would love to hear your thoughts on the bike after you've ridden it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldorian View Post
    That's Rad. Rom3n, I believe you were a big Evil Fan before right? And owned a Following, Insurgent and Calling? Would love to hear your comparison with regards to climbing and descending. Trying to decide between a Calling and the new Bronson. Would love to hear your thoughts on the bike after you've ridden it.
    I like Evil bikes and the Calling is a really fun bike. Looking forward to spending some time on this guy. Initial impression on my first quick setup ride were very positive and having spent a lot of time on the nomad I felt very comfortable right away. Time to hit the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    I like Evil bikes and the Calling is a really fun bike. Looking forward to spending some time on this guy. Initial impression on my first quick setup ride were very positive and having spent a lot of time on the nomad I felt very comfortable right away. Time to hit the road
    Awesome. Looking forward to it. Mostly curious if itís a lot more bike then the Calling or similar. I guess all the benefits none of the negatives type thing.


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    Ratboyís coil equipped Bronson:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    5'8 med
    Would you have went medium at 5'10. I always ride Evil mediums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldorian View Post
    Awesome. Looking forward to it. Mostly curious if itís a lot more bike then the Calling or similar. I guess all the benefits none of the negatives type thing.
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    I now have one good ride on my new Bronson and just a few weeks ago I tried a Calling on a similar trail (technical, relatively tight, no long uphill but some steep). PS, The Calling had a 160mm Pike in front and my Bronson has a 170mm Lyrik.

    I can say they are similar in some ways, different in others but the new Bronson is definitely not a lot more bike! I would say the Bronson felt a bit more planted in front on steep uphill. The rear travel on both is fantastic, very plush but not wallowy, overal I give the nod to the Bronson on this though, just feels unbelievably plush on roots and rocks. The new Lyrik is ways above the 2018 Pike the Calling had. The Calling feels a bit more agile in tight stuff, not that the Bronson canít negociate tight stuff, it does but with a bit more work.

    I almost bought a Calling until I heard the Bronson was coming. Today Iím happy I did go with the Bronson but honestly itís mostly because I am a super fan of SantaCruz because I would sure have been very happy on a Calling.

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    Interesting, thanks for the thoughts. I was looking at a Calling at one point a few months ago to compliment my N4.
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    I had a calling and it was a killer short travel rig. I figured the Bronson was gonna be closer to a nomad than a calling.. might go nomad to compliment the following mb instead of a Bronson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    I had a calling and it was a killer short travel rig. I figured the Bronson was gonna be closer to a nomad than a calling.. might go nomad to compliment the following mb instead of a Bronson.
    I've been thinking my Nomad 4 and the new 5010 might be a good combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmespun View Post
    I've been thinking my Nomad 4 and the new 5010 might be a good combo.
    This. Or Following MB . Both are good choices to complement the N4. I think the new Bronson would have too much overlap.

    Hard to decide between wheelsizes to compliment the Nomad4 though. Where I ride both make a lot of sense.

    Iíve been running my N4 with 35 mm carbon wheels and 2.6 Minions as my only bike and I now feel that combo is really the sweet spot, so leaning towards it on a new 5010. That would also be my recommended choice for the new Bronson,

    Other thoughts- I loved the Following MB I demoed but the geo is still a bit too old school for my liking, especially with the new SC geo on the N4/Bronson/5010. It felt too short and that seat angle is slack. But on low angle trails itís a whippet of a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmespun View Post
    I've been thinking my Nomad 4 and the new 5010 might be a good combo.
    Those compliment each other well. I had an N3 and 5010v2, great pair. Had my N4 for a while with the 5010v2 also. Selling my 5010v2 though only b/c I feel better on something with a longer reach.

    New 5010v3 does look good from a geo standpoint though. I just like the Bronson linkage and colors better, haha, but I'm assuming too much overlap with my N4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    Those compliment each other well. I had an N3 and 5010v2, great pair. Had my N4 for a while with the 5010v2 also. Selling my 5010v2 though only b/c I feel better on something with a longer reach.

    New 5010v3 does look good from a geo standpoint though. I just like the Bronson linkage and colors better, haha, but I'm assuming too much overlap with my N4.
    I agree 100% with everything in your post.
    I think I would pair the nomad with a shorter travel 29er. Just to get more variety.
    I hope the Tallboy V4 will have about 120mm rear travel. That or 5010 sounds like a great combo.

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    Bronson CC frames are rarer than hens teeth at the minute. None available in the UK still which is pretty annoying to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmespun View Post
    I've been thinking my Nomad 4 and the new 5010 might be a good combo.
    If I was willing to have a two bike quiver that would definitely be the go. I'm really trying to keep it to one and having a hard time deciding if my next bike coming from a Bronson v2 will be the V3, a HTLT, a Ripmo or a Yeti 5.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by pachaven View Post
    Do you guys know what fork offset is on the new Bronson? I looked on the website but cant find it. Thanks
    I emailed SC and they confirmed the bike comes with a standard offset (44mm) fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    If I was willing to have a two bike quiver that would definitely be the go. I'm really trying to keep it to one and having a hard time deciding if my next bike coming from a Bronson v2 will be the V3, a HTLT, a Ripmo or a Yeti 5.5
    HTLT and 5.5 are both sick bikes. I demoed both back to back in Moab and I really loved both, if I were ever to go down to only 1 FS (I have a TB LTc and Bronson V2) I'd go to a HTLT and never look back. Only reason I'd personally choose the HTLT is because Santa Cruz is just an awesome company. The Yeti 5.5 was a tad more supple and maybe climbed a tad bit better (just a bit softer over things while the HTLT had that wonderful VPP stiffness while climbing) while the HTLT was a tad more DH oriented, both were very close IMO and I did love both bikes.

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    Bad idea to trade following mb in on Bronson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Bad idea to trade following mb in on Bronson?
    I guess thats something only you will be able to answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
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    Depends on what you're after.

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    I'm biased but I'd go Yeti 5.5. It is such a great all arounder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
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    Opposite ends of the spectrum. Buy the Bronson and keep the FMB, would be an excellent quiver to have in the garage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00 View Post
    I was at my LBS in Santa Cruz over the weekend and a Large Bronson V3 X01 Reserve build with plastic shop pedals was 30 lbs. 8oz. on their park tools scale.
    Whaaa??!! This seems a bit heavy compared to the 29.17 lbs they have listed on the website, and with carbon wheel option at that. Plastic pedals can't be that heavy. I'm sure they list size small on their website, too......but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukas View Post
    If I was willing to have a two bike quiver that would definitely be the go. I'm really trying to keep it to one and having a hard time deciding if my next bike coming from a Bronson v2 will be the V3, a HTLT, a Ripmo or a Yeti 5.5
    I have an N4 and HTOG, so not too far off from an N4/5010 combo.

    I'm happy with what I've got, but if I had to hit the reset button today, I'd probably save a few bucks and go for a Bronson V3 in lieu of both those bikes.

    My N4/HTOG combo has allowed me to hold off, but not escape, the inevitability of getting XC and DH bikes.

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    XO1 Chester pedals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Curious about this comment.

    I haven't seen any pictures of the frame only and all the built bikes don't look like they have bash guards.

    Any more information on this?
    Answering my own question here. The lower chainstay does rest close to the ISCG tab, but still enough room to clear a MRP SXG guide.


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    Pretty relevant to the discussion above referencing Evils. I currently have a Calling, a FMB and just built up this:

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    Too early to make any comparisons, but first impressions were very positive. Bike has an intuitive feel and it did not take long to get comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    Pretty relevant to the discussion above referencing Evils. I currently have a Calling, a FMB and just built up this:

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    Too early to make any comparisons, but first impressions were very positive. Bike has an intuitive feel and it did not take long to get comfortable.
    Black stanchions?!! I like.


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    Ordered Primer Grey CC X01

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    Ordered Primer Grey CC X01
    Hopefully you have better luck than me. Ordered the same bike on July 3rd (release date) and got the ship date pushed three times. When I ordered with my LBS, SC said 10 days to ship and yesterday they pushed it out again to Aug 21. I bailed and bought a Firebird 29 that they shipped next day in the exact color and build I wanted.

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    How tall and what size frame?
    5'10" Medium

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanderson View Post
    Hopefully you have better luck than me. Ordered the same bike on July 3rd (release date) and got the ship date pushed three times. When I ordered with my LBS, SC said 10 days to ship and yesterday they pushed it out again to Aug 21. I bailed and bought a Firebird 29 that they shipped next day in the exact color and build I wanted.
    Waiting on CC frames here in the UK still, ordered on launch day and they keep getting pushed back and pushed back. How hard is it to arrange a launch and have bikes and frames ready to sell....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    Ordered Primer Grey CC X01
    Surprised you went medium. In my experience these new bikes ride better with a longer reach and Santa Cruz suggest Large for any one over 5í9Ē

    Also hope these storyís of deliveries being pushed back arenít a trend as I ordered a XL Primer Grey CC frame last week and was told late August delivery here in NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Surprised you went medium. In my experience these new bikes ride better with a longer reach and Santa Cruz suggest Large for any one over 5í9Ē
    I read the recommended size as 5'9" being the minimum size for a large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Also hope these storyís of deliveries being pushed back arenít a trend as I ordered a XL Primer Grey CC frame last week and was told late August delivery here in NZ.
    Here in the UK we haven't had any CC frames or full bikes land yet. Keep getting told they will ship next week from Santa Cruz, then the week after, then the week after....... Its becoming quite ridiculous now, nearly a month after the launch and nothing yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Surprised you went medium. In my experience these new bikes ride better with a longer reach and Santa Cruz suggest Large for any one over 5í9Ē

    Also hope these storyís of deliveries being pushed back arenít a trend as I ordered a XL Primer Grey CC frame last week and was told late August delivery here in NZ.
    I ordered a large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Surprised you went medium. In my experience these new bikes ride better with a longer reach and Santa Cruz suggest Large for any one over 5í9Ē
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    I don't completely agree with their size recommendations for these new bikes. I just bought a new Nomad 4, and at 5'10" I'm very happy I went with a medium.

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    Compare the Bronson sizing recommendations to the new pivot firebird 29.

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    I bought the Bronson v1 when it was released and a medium reach was 15.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    I ordered a large.
    Oh sorry thought I saw somewhere that you ordered a medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Here in the UK we haven't had any CC frames or full bikes land yet. Keep getting told they will ship next week from Santa Cruz, then the week after, then the week after....... Its becoming quite ridiculous now, nearly a month after the launch and nothing yet.
    I got my C S+ very quickly after launch, live in Canada. My shop also received several other sizes and colours but I think they are all C models, I haven't seen any CC. So either they are having problems producing the CC frames or the pre-orders of CC models have depleted their initial stock previsions!

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    Seat post insertion

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    Your bike looks great. Looking to build a medium with a Transfer post but was concerned the shock tunnel would limit insertion. Were you able to get the post as low as you wanted?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iridepnw View Post
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    Your bike looks great. Looking to build a medium with a Transfer post but was concerned the shock tunnel would limit insertion. Were you able to get the post as low as you wanted?
    Thanks.
    I was able to get the 150mm right where I wanted it. Itís only a few mm above min insertion but worked out great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Here in the UK we haven't had any CC frames or full bikes land yet. Keep getting told they will ship next week from Santa Cruz, then the week after, then the week after....... Its becoming quite ridiculous now, nearly a month after the launch and nothing yet.
    I got a call today saying that a 5010v3 CC frame that I ordered on launch day was ready to pick up from Stif. Jungle/Stif were expecting 5010s and Bronsons at the same time so hopefully youíll see it sooner rather than later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hamilton View Post
    I got a call today saying that a 5010v3 CC frame that I ordered on launch day was ready to pick up from Stif. Jungle/Stif were expecting 5010s and Bronsons at the same time so hopefully youíll see it sooner rather than later.


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    Hopefully some good news early next week then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmespun View Post
    I don't completely agree with their size recommendations for these new bikes. I just bought a new Nomad 4, and at 5'10" I'm very happy I went with a medium.
    I'm 5' 9" and have ridden a M Nomad 4 as well, and agree it felt perfect size wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamilton View Post
    I got a call today saying that a 5010v3 CC frame that I ordered on launch day was ready to pick up from Stif. Jungle/Stif were expecting 5010s and Bronsons at the same time so hopefully youíll see it sooner rather than later.


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    Nope delayed again. Looking like at least a month off.

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    I have ordered a blue large cc frame here in Australia yesterday and should have it by this Friday 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Here in the UK we haven't had any CC frames or full bikes land yet. Keep getting told they will ship next week from Santa Cruz, then the week after, then the week after....... Its becoming quite ridiculous now, nearly a month after the launch and nothing yet.
    It is a huge capital investment actually. You either have to over build the number of molds or pay to have unsold inventory stocked for months while you build enough bikes for initial demand. Both are probably mid 7 figure investments for a company the size of SC. Not inconsequential money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Nope delayed again. Looking like at least a month off.
    It never ceases to amaze me how bad the bike industry is with release dates and actual availability. How hard can it be?! Surely they have this stuff planned months and months in advance?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor32 View Post
    I have ordered a blue large cc frame here in Australia yesterday and should have it by this Friday 😁
    Now thatís just showing off 😉
    Whatís your planned build ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    It is a huge capital investment actually. You either have to over build the number of molds or pay to have unsold inventory stocked for months while you build enough bikes for initial demand. Both are probably mid 7 figure investments for a company the size of SC. Not inconsequential money.
    Err a company the size of Santa Cruz? You mean a company the size of Pon Holdings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Nope delayed again. Looking like at least a month off.
    Is this definite? Im bored of being bikeless sold my bike to get a bronson, now it looks like im going to be bikeless for the rest of summer great

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    I think my CC X01 Primer Grey is shipping out today.

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    Anyone in the UK bored of waiting, Biketreks in Ambleside has a primer grey C build in large sitting on the shop floor. I was in there today and they said they are still waiting on everything else. Frame looks great.


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    Sierra Buttes Trail Stewardship fundraiser ($5/ft) is back on. Donate and you could win a new Bronson. Hit the link and empty your pockets for trails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ld1394 View Post
    Is this definite? Im bored of being bikeless sold my bike to get a bronson, now it looks like im going to be bikeless for the rest of summer great
    Yep 100% certain. Where are you getting yours from? I sold my Nomad 4 with the belief that Bronson frames would be in stock in 10 days, then it went to 2 weeks, then the end of the month and now late August at the earliest.

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    Ffs ! And llandegla oneplanetadventure i believe they get it from jungle, theyve been pretty good keeping me in the loop to be fair was hoping for an early august, gutted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Yep 100% certain. Where are you getting yours from? I sold my Nomad 4 with the belief that Bronson frames would be in stock in 10 days, then it went to 2 weeks, then the end of the month and now late August at the earliest.
    You on about full builds or just frames ? I just re read your post, im waiting on a carbon S build

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    Which frame size? I installed the one up bash/chain guide but needed to use the spacers to push it out from the frame a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Err a company the size of Santa Cruz? You mean a company the size of Pon Holdings?
    Company size isnt really relevant, it's all roi and forecasting long term demand vs life expectancy of the production tooling, vs how much of your line you dedicate to each model, and size of each model. I've ordered cars that missed production schedules by months, it happens.

    I'm betting they have a couple guys with some expensive MBA degrees crunching the numbers and finding the highest efficiency of production capacity allocation vs holding costs, cost of capital, etc.

    In a relatively small industry working with a boutique company, production delays on a brand new component are just part of life. I can tell you from personal experience they always play it conservative. Not a significant amount of lost sales due to a delay, but can be massive losses if you overshoot the estimate and are sitting on a ton of inventory.

    If I were SC I'd try to offer something up to compensate for the delay just for good will. It might be worth asking your dealer about (a great deal on some carbon wheels, etc?)

    I'm sure it's frustrating, but it will be an awesome bike, just chill out and it will be here soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    I like Evil bikes and the Calling is a really fun bike. Looking forward to spending some time on this guy. Initial impression on my first quick setup ride were very positive and having spent a lot of time on the nomad I felt very comfortable right away. Time to hit the road
    I'm curious to hear your longer term feedback.

    I have a Calling - LOVE IT - and a Nomad v3 - LOVE IT

    Despite travel differences, I find a lot of overlap between my two bikes. The former is more nimble, the latter more of a bashing crush machine.


    I'd think Calling & Bronson would ride very similarly

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT3 Bill View Post
    In a relatively small industry working with a boutique company, production delays on a brand new component are just part of life. I can tell you from personal experience they always play it conservative. Not a significant amount of lost sales due to a delay, but can be massive losses if you overshoot the estimate and are sitting on a ton of inventory.

    If I were SC I'd try to offer something up to compensate for the delay just for good will. It might be worth asking your dealer about (a great deal on some carbon wheels, etc?)

    I'm sure it's frustrating, but it will be an awesome bike, just chill out and it will be here soon enough.
    Boutique? Santa Cruz Used to be boutique, now the top end CC frames are nothing more than S-Works or Trek factory frames. Ten a penny on the trail are Santa Cruz. Not like the early days of the brand were they were a boutique brand.

    Lets be honest SC knew they would and will sell a metric shit ton of bronsons. Vastly more than they sold of the Nomad 4. They could have added another $500/£500 on the price and they would have all sold. Why? Its a fantastic bike, on paper its what everyone wants and asked for, a 150mm trail bike, slack head angle, SC warranty, whats not to like!

    Where they really ****ed up is launching the 5010 and the Bronson at the same time. 2 similar bikes, both aiming for a verysimilar area of the market with not enough separation between them both. Its not like when they both first launched, times have changed. Would have been far better to hold the 5010 off or launch it alongside the Nomad. The 5010 seemed totally swamped by the Bronson and its been lost in the haze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel View Post
    I have a Calling - LOVE IT - and a Nomad v3 - LOVE IT

    Despite travel differences, I find a lot of overlap between my two bikes. The former is more nimble, the latter more of a bashing crush machine.


    I'd think Calling & Bronson would ride very similarly
    I tried a Calling before ordering my new Bronson. Similar but quite different in my opinion. Bronson is a bit more planted in front when climbing. Both suspension are very plush but Bronson has typical VPP go forward but more plush and less wallow, at least compared to my old Nomad. Riding position on the Calling is great but after some adjustment I managed to get my Bronson dialed, 35mm stem and seat pushed forward on itís rails. Bronson is very stable going down fast. I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish View Post
    Now thatís just showing off 😉
    Whatís your planned build ?
    Haha not sure what the go is here in Australia but there seems to be heaps of stock!
    My build is, XX1 Eagle, Lyrik RC2, Code RSC, Nextie Carbon rims on DT Swiss 240s hubs, Renthal Carbon cockpit & the new oneup 170mm dropper post. Iím so excited and canít wait 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor32 View Post
    Haha not sure what the go is here in Australia but there seems to be heaps of stock!
    My build is, XX1 Eagle, Lyrik RC2, Code RSC, Nextie Carbon rims on DT Swiss 240s hubs, Renthal Carbon cockpit & the new oneup 170mm dropper post. Iím so excited and canít wait 😁
    Nice build. Should be a rocket 🙂

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel View Post
    I'm curious to hear your longer term feedback.

    I have a Calling - LOVE IT - and a Nomad v3 - LOVE IT

    Despite travel differences, I find a lot of overlap between my two bikes. The former is more nimble, the latter more of a bashing crush machine.


    I'd think Calling & Bronson would ride very similarly
    I've been riding the Calling for the last year but have only had my Bronson on 4 rides. So far the Bronson feels like a better Calling. The Bronson has a better pop, and feels easier to toss around. It feels more planted when plowing through the rocks, and I've noticed less fatigue by the end of the trail. The VPP is definitely a more efficient climber and feels like it translates pedal forces in momentum a lot easier. The Calling didn't feel great until I upgraded the shock, I swapped between a DPX2 and an 11-6 and those shocks really woke up that bike. So if the Bronson is feeling this good with the stock shock I am curious to try with an upgraded shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I've been riding the Calling for the last year but have only had my Bronson on 4 rides. So far the Bronson feels like a better Calling. The Bronson has a better pop, and feels easier to toss around. It feels more planted when plowing through the rocks, and I've noticed less fatigue by the end of the trail. The VPP is definitely a more efficient climber and feels like it translates pedal forces in momentum a lot easier. The Calling didn't feel great until I upgraded the shock, I swapped between a DPX2 and an 11-6 and those shocks really woke up that bike. So if the Bronson is feeling this good with the stock shock I am curious to try with an upgraded shock.
    Thanks for the feedback. I generally have preferred my SC VPP to the Evil's suspension design, so I get what you're saying.

    I'm running 11.6 also on both my Nomad and Calling. Agreed, it makes a tremendous difference. I think that if I didn't have my Nomad and Calling, then having Bronson as a "one bike" makes sense, but I'm not quite ready to host a firesale. Maybe next season.

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    Saw a Bronson V3 earlier with a Super Deluxe coil on it. The spring is super tight in the tunnel, not much space to spare at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Saw a Bronson V3 earlier with a Super Deluxe coil on it. The spring is super tight in the tunnel, not much space to spare at all.
    I wonder if a Fox DHX2 won't fit, I saw an IG post from Bryceland and he's still running a RS, despite he's sponsored by Fox.
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    Thereís no DHX2 with 210x55 sizing as of now, though they sell the spare parts to make your own.

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    The website says that the Bronson XTR complete will be available in the fall. Anyone have any insight if that's early or late fall? I'm guessing they're waiting on some Shimano parts?

    I'm also a tick over 5'10" (was 5'11" when I was younger!). I've always ridden medium-sized bikes (and actually a mislabeled small Intense M3 some time ago). I sat on both medium and large B3s, and could probably do either, so I'm in that same sizing dilemma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200 View Post
    The website says that the Bronson XTR complete will be available in the fall. Anyone have any insight if that's early or late fall? I'm guessing they're waiting on some Shimano parts?

    I'm also a tick over 5'10" (was 5'11" when I was younger!). I've always ridden medium-sized bikes (and actually a mislabeled small Intense M3 some time ago). I sat on both medium and large B3s, and could probably do either, so I'm in that same sizing dilemma.
    SC is known to be late, which was the case last year for the Nomad 4. I ordered a CC/X01/Reserve in tan. 3 weeks turned into 7 weeks.

    That said, worth waiting for unless you're bikeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200 View Post
    The website says that the Bronson XTR complete will be available in the fall. Anyone have any insight if that's early or late fall? I'm guessing they're waiting on some Shimano parts?

    I'm also a tick over 5'10" (was 5'11" when I was younger!). I've always ridden medium-sized bikes (and actually a mislabeled small Intense M3 some time ago). I sat on both medium and large B3s, and could probably do either, so I'm in that same sizing dilemma.
    Same here, ordered large.

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    Fortunately, I'm not bikeless....I still have my low, slack, and short CS hardtail 29er. I sold off all my trail bikes before kids, and now I'm ready to ride again (with them). I would like to have full suspension again for some of the trails we've been riding (even though the kids are on hardtails).

    Yeah, I definitely will be waiting for the Shimano version, as I really don't want any of the SRAM options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    I wonder if a Fox DHX2 won't fit, I saw an IG post from Bryceland and he's still running a RS, despite he's sponsored by Fox.
    It was his bike I got to see and ride!

    Think most brands have smaller springs then rockshox.

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    Current build

    Here is my current Bronson build. CC X01+. Actually custom built with SC Reserve 37s and I9 hubs. Swapped out the SC bars for Deity carbon bars and a 35mm Deity stem. I am 5'6" and think the 35mm stem on a medium frame is perfect.

    I have had the bike for 3 weeks now and am stoked on it. This think grips the ground like no other bike I have been on. Previous bike was a 2018 Bronson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel View Post
    I'm curious to hear your longer term feedback.

    I have a Calling - LOVE IT - and a Nomad v3 - LOVE IT

    Despite travel differences, I find a lot of overlap between my two bikes. The former is more nimble, the latter more of a bashing crush machine.


    I'd think Calling & Bronson would ride very similarly
    It has been awhile since I was on the calling and I only got a couple days on it. I do recall liking the calling for the short time I spent with it but I do not recall having as much fun as I have had so far on the Bronson. I spent 10 days traveling thru a few states riding lots of trail / bike park and despite having my Firebird 29 with me I usually grabbed the Bronson unless I was going to ride some really gnarly stuff. The Bronson pedaled well, was easy to get in the air and felt glued to the ground in berms. It's not as fast as the Nomad when blasting thru the rough but it is a bike that pegs the fun meter for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    It has been awhile since I was on the calling and I only got a couple days on it. I do recall liking the calling for the short time I spent with it but I do not recall having as much fun as I have had so far on the Bronson. I spent 10 days traveling thru a few states riding lots of trail / bike park and despite having my Firebird 29 with me I usually grabbed the Bronson unless I was going to ride some really gnarly stuff. The Bronson pedaled well, was easy to maneuver in the air and felt glued to the ground in berms. It's not as fast as the Nomad when blasting thru the rough but it is a bike that pegs the fun meter for sure.
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    Calhoun and Rom3n - you guys suck!!!
    Sounds like there's a 3way in the works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    It has been awhile since I was on the calling and I only got a couple days on it. I do recall liking the calling for the short time I spent with it but I do not recall having as much fun as I have had so far on the Bronson. I spent 10 days traveling thru a few states riding lots of trail / bike park and despite having my Firebird 29 with me I usually grabbed the Bronson unless I was going to ride some really gnarly stuff. The Bronson pedaled well, was easy to get in the air and felt glued to the ground in berms. It's not as fast as the Nomad when blasting thru the rough but it is a bike that pegs the fun meter for sure.
    Wheelbase has a lot to do with how stable a bike is. Kind of crazy that the Bronson V3 and Nomad V4 basically have the same wheelbase even though itís shy 20mm on travel. The Calling is almost an inch shorter.

    Bronson definitely seems like the near perfect quiver killer.

    What size Firebird 29 are you on? Kind of insane how long it is. Itís DH bike long.

    How are you liking the 27.5 vs 29 wheels?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezwhip View Post
    Sounds like there's a 3way in the works?
    you wanna get in on it too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    you wanna get in on it too?
    Your grey is pretty damned sexy I gotta say...
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    My large just got pushed back to September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper View Post
    Here in the UK we haven't had any CC frames or full bikes land yet. Keep getting told they will ship next week from Santa Cruz, then the week after, then the week after....... Its becoming quite ridiculous now, nearly a month after the launch and nothing yet.
    I spoke with a sales guy from Mike's Bikes in NorCal. He told me the initial offering was sold to dealers before the release. Also, told me complete bikes get the priority to frames only sales until the supply chain can catch up with demand.

    BTW, the primer gray looks great

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscecil007 View Post
    I wonder if a Fox DHX2 won't fit, I saw an IG post from Bryceland and he's still running a RS, despite he's sponsored by Fox.
    He isn't sponsored by Fox, he just runs whatever Santa Cruz send him or whatever he can get hooked up with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJobe View Post
    My large just got pushed back to September.
    Frame or full build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldorian View Post
    Wheelbase has a lot to do with how stable a bike is. Kind of crazy that the Bronson V3 and Nomad V4 basically have the same wheelbase even though itís shy 20mm on travel. The Calling is almost an inch shorter.

    Bronson definitely seems like the near perfect quiver killer.

    What size Firebird 29 are you on? Kind of insane how long it is. Itís DH bike long.

    How are you liking the 27.5 vs 29 wheels?


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    I ride a Med FB29. Im still a 29er guy but the Bronson is a lot of fun to take out and play on. It is a very good do everything bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ld1394 View Post
    Frame or full build?
    Full build. Cc x01 + primer grey

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    So what's the verdict from Nomad V4 owners who went Bronson V3? Us spectators would love to know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor32 View Post
    Haha not sure what the go is here in Australia but there seems to be heaps of stock!
    My build is, XX1 Eagle, Lyrik RC2, Code RSC, Nextie Carbon rims on DT Swiss 240s hubs, Renthal Carbon cockpit & the new oneup 170mm dropper post. Iím so excited and canít wait 
    Not what my LBS (Western Australia) said when I inquired yesterday for a Large CC frame, all stock currently sold out and expected ETA late September/October.

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    Anyone have any tips for the new internal routing. Having a hard time getting the break hose through in the rear triangle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    Anyone have any tips for the new internal routing. Having a hard time getting the break hose through in the rear triangle.
    Take a wire hanger or wheel spoke cut and sharpen one end of it. Because it's flexible you can use the sharp end to insert into the end of the brake hose inside the frame. This will allow you to guide the hose out the hole while pushing thru.

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    By the sounds of it they have been selling like hot cakes. The small shop in Hobart I go to have sold 3 and have one S blue large build as floor stock.
    My frame arrived today in the shop and will be built up early next week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwo View Post
    Not what my LBS (Western Australia) said when I inquired yesterday for a Large CC frame, all stock currently sold out and expected ETA late September/October.
    By the sounds of it they have been selling like hot cakes. The small shop in Hobart I go to have sold 3 and have one S blue large build as floor stock.
    My frame arrived today in the shop and will be built up early next week!

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    The 2019 Santa Cruz Bronson (v3)-263fe504-8b17-4aa3-9dfa-8e3600518277.jpg

    My frame waiting to be built up 

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    Apologies if this was answered earlier in the thread. How many volume reducers are installed stock on the Super Deluxe? Took the Bronson for a ride and felt like it bottomed out a touch to easily, though Iím still playing with shock pressures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post


    Apologies if this was answered earlier in the thread. How many volume reducers are installed stock on the Super Deluxe? Took the Bronson for a ride and felt like it bottomed out a touch to easily, though Iím still playing with shock pressures.
    You couldn't open it up to see for yourself? Sounds like whatever the # is, the answer is possibly not enough for you.

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    I could totally do it myself but itís so much easier to ask also the shock mount makes it a much bigger pain to take on and off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post
    I could totally do it myself but itís so much easier to ask also the shock mount makes it a much bigger pain to take on and off.
    So let's say the # is 2. How does that help you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikericci View Post


    Apologies if this was answered earlier in the thread. How many volume reducers are installed stock on the Super Deluxe? Took the Bronson for a ride and felt like it bottomed out a touch to easily, though Iím still playing with shock pressures.
    What frame protector is that?

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    All Mountain Style ďApeĒ. Check them out, they are great, easy to install. Plenty of different styles too, including clear or solid colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor32 View Post
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    My frame waiting to be built up 
    Cool. Any chance of getting the frame on a scale while you wait ?


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    Yeh i like that its either gona be that or a dyedbro one i think

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    I weighed it this morning at 3200grams(just over 7 pounds), which is heavier then I thought it would be.

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    The 2019 Santa Cruz Bronson (v3)-51a61d61-0187-4227-9b58-f5e768d68053.jpg
    Confirming this is a CC Large frame with derailer hanger, no axle and was just on my kitchen scales. I couldnít quite get it to perfectly balance but the wieght would be very close to what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor32 View Post
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    Confirming this is a CC Large frame with derailer hanger, no axle and was just on my kitchen scales. I couldnít quite get it to perfectly balance but the wieght would be very close to what it is.
    Thanks. Appreciated


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