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    XL Dos Niner Built!!

    Just finished the build on the new Dos Niner - XL. No ride report yet, but hopefully the snow will subside soon and allow a quality ride for a report. Every bit as beautiful as mentioned on other threads, crazy light (around 25lbs as pictured - hope the pic comes out), and no clearance issues, even with new 2.2 Bonty Jones. The tire fit is snug, so lots of mud or snow would wash off on the base of the shock. Rear shock feels nice - exactly as I'd expect it - a bit more forgiving than a rigid tail, but not squishy. Ride report eventually, but had to show the pic now! Coming soon, a new Walt SS build.
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    no tech ability

    sorry, that pic blows, I'm trying to figure out how to resize the original. D
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    Looks good, should of brought it down for the Paul Bunyon race.

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    Nice!

    Is that the 22" frame? Looks like a whole lot of stanover. Sort of looks like my roadbike. How tall are you?

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    Feels Big

    Yes, that's the 22" seat tube. I'm 6'6", with 36-37 inseam. Fits well, but initial impressions it felt like a big bike, didn't measure the standover yet though.
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    seems like a high standover

    I'm used to a long top tube (trek and fisher) but I may give that up to gain a bit more standover with a large. Top tube is about an inch shorter but satndover is about an inch less. Hope to order mine this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichiganClydesdale
    Yes, that's the 22" seat tube. I'm 6'6", with 36-37 inseam. Fits well, but initial impressions it felt like a big bike, didn't measure the standover yet though.
    "felt like a big bike" Thats funny, Could you post an old 26 inch wheel bike of yours....My one relative is 6'8" & someone at a shop sold him a 26inch wheel clown bike.....wish I had a picture. Nice ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichiganClydesdale
    Just finished the build on the new Dos Niner - XL. No ride report yet, but hopefully the snow will subside soon and allow a quality ride for a report.
    How's that ride report coming along Any new pics? I'd love to hear more about it...

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    it'll happen soon?

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    How's that ride report coming along Any new pics? I'd love to hear more about it...
    Man, you know it's killing me, to see that Bike hanging there, having not ridden it yet. It's just too snowy here, and cold today. I did spin it around, with a little off-road, and I first I thought the rear tire was soft, but it was just the little forgiveness from the Relish shock - very nice. It's going to do exactly what it should, just smooth out the roughest, but still respond like a light hardtail - can't wait. Wish the TT was 1/2 inch longer, but it'll work. It's my first time on the WB.8 too, and that's sweet.

    Pic and full report within the next couple weeks - thanks for your interest!!! Walt Porn - Rigid SS coming the end of this week too!!!

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    (MichiganClydesdale) - I'm looking forward to your complete ride report!! I can relate to the snow/wet conditions. I'm sure there are plenty of us in that situation right now. I'm in Southern NJ and we just took another hit of snow, even when melted and gone, it staturates the trails so bad! We caught a ride last week in DE where the start was frozen and in about an hour, the top layer of soil melted but created this snotty, slippery top layer of 3/8" mud over frozen base! Holy crap it was treacherous on the hills!!

    Back to the Dos... I *****ed and moaned a couple of threads ago about pricing changes on the Dos. Now my favorite not so "L - local" LBS (Speedgoat) comes through with a great pricing package when you buy with a Reba. Just so happens I want the Reba for my Asylum! Sooo, I think I might just finally grab up the Dos Niner and see if it could be my first "racier" 29er. At 6' tall, I'm going for the 18" and stretching out the cockpit with a little longer stem.

    Ride on,

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    Progress update?

    David, how's that ride report and photo update coming???

    Related; how would you compare the size of orangie with greenie? - especially in the TT and standover clearance dept??
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    nice ride!

    post more pics of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncj01
    David, how's that ride report and photo update coming???

    Related; how would you compare the size of orangie with greenie? - especially in the TT and standover clearance dept??
    Funny you ask. I spent two hard hours on it yesterday on a choppy trail. For starters, it's got a bit shorter TT which I was initially concerned about, but it's real similar to the XL KM and a bit shorter than my Fisher, and really not an issue w/ a setback post and 120mm stem. The standover feels huge on this bike (and everyone else that hops on it says the same), but I don't know the exact measurement.

    The ride is great, quick, soft, and light. Love the softail, absolutely a perfect gel of squish and hardtail. I would think this is a perfect XC racing/riding bike for someone under 180lbs, but I find it very flexy....dare I call it "wet noodly". On short steep climbs, the torque I put on the crank flex's the frame to the point where my chain will skip. The rear end feels solid on the bike, but the headtube is all over the place flexing back and forth. Again, I'm 220lbs and this was fast, choppy hardpack. Love the bike, especially with the WB.8, but it's future with me is in question because it's built too lightly. If scandium is designed to be more flexy without break, great, but I'm a bit too heavy for it I think....although the frame fits me well at 6'5".
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    courtesy photo

    see if this comes out more clearly:

    <img border=1 img src="https://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/867718/610638277-DosRightSide05.jpg">
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    Let there be light! Oh, it's GREEN!! Nice bike.
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    thanks!

    thanks for hooking up sweeter pics of my bike! A killer XL 29er, with some squish, and under 26 pounds with moderate bling...priceless.
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    nice ride. and thanks for the honest ride report. good to hear those!
    also good to see the updated pic- for a minute i was thinking your bike was flexy 'cause it's built out of Lego's!!

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    uh, I'm like, dumb

    yeah, I'm camera-illiterate, but thanks to the Eric Clapton of 29er, Nathan (ncj01), my pic's live on. OGG, do you have the Walt yet? My Walt SS is the ride of choice....but I split time w/ the Dos for tougher trail. D
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    Nice ride!!!

    can you give a parts/build breakdown? trying to see how to build one as light as yours.

    thanks!

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    mostly XT

    Mostly XT stuff, shifters, derailleurs, cassette, crank, BB. Sram hollowpin pc99 chain. XT hubs on Delgado X rims w/ 14/15 spokes. Bonty Jones AXC Tires. Salsa seatpost, ritchey pro stem, easton carbon bar, king headset. WB.8 fork. Avid Arch Rival V's.

    So there's some items in the build that could easily be improved upon, like the seatpost, stem, and wheels. It's a fun bike. D
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    Dos Niner Riding report

    Iv'e been riding my small (16") Dos Niner for about 3 months now. I am 5''7"
    and weigh 165 lbs. I have been generally pleased with the bike, but have come to realize that the front triangle lateral stiffness is lacking. I can literally watch the top and downtube deflect laterally when I apply light lateral pressure alternatively against the saddle and handlebar. The creates a noodle effect with steering. This is further amplified by the Rock Shox Reba minimal stiffness (wouldn't it be nice if Fox would build us a 29" version of the X forx?).

    My conculsion is that the Scandium tube set, being round would work better if manipulated into a ovalized configuration which most manufactures use to provide later stiffness.

    Any body else experience this with the Dos Niner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    I can literally watch the top and downtube deflect laterally when I apply light lateral pressure alternatively against the saddle and handlebar.
    Any body else experience this with the Dos Niner?
    I can't picture exactly how you're doing this maneuver, but I bet you're just seeing things.

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    Dear Nat,

    I am talking about pedaling in the saddle, and rocking or torquing on the handlebars with normal to aggressive steering input, and watching the entire top and headtube deflect an inch or more laterally(otherwise know as noodling).
    Since my post, I have reviewed the above ride report from another rider who is seeing the same thing especially while climbing in or out of the saddle).

    As a result, I am leaning toward selling the frame and building a custom Titus Racer x Exogrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    Dear Nat,

    I am talking about pedaling in the saddle, and rocking or torquing on the handlebars with normal to aggressive steering input, and watching the entire top and headtube deflect an inch or more laterally(otherwise know as noodling).
    Since my post, I have reviewed the above ride report from another rider who is seeing the same thing especially while climbing in or out of the saddle).

    As a result, I am leaning toward selling the frame and building a custom Titus Racer x Exogrid.
    Oh, that makes more sense. I was picturing you applying light pressure with a fingertip or something and thinking you were seeing the tube bow like a pvc tube.

    I'm going to try it on my Dos too. An "inch or more" deflection is a lot!

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    flexy

    I'm saying too, that frame is flexy in the front triangle - different than your desirable steel, or compliant Ti....I'm not sure if the Scandium is supposed to feel that way. Some riders will like that soft feel up front, I don't.
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    Are you sure it is the front triangle? My xl does't do that in the front....1 inch deflection??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimble
    Are you sure it is the front triangle? My xl does't do that in the front....1 inch deflection??
    I tried it with my 18" frame tonight...no big deflection noted.

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    It Flexes, okay?

    I can sit on the saddle leaned slightly to one side with a foot on ground, with the other foot torqued on the crank & brakes applied..and visibly watch the XL head tube, flex R/L of the center of the top-tube as I push the bar in that direction. It's hard to explain but I don't get that feel on my KM or Walt. D
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