Horsethief/Pony Rustler BB Crack- Mtbr.com
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    1,444

    Horsethief/Pony Rustler BB Crack

    Two friends of mine have had two different frames each crack in the same place. Yes, that means 4 frames.

    Anyone else have this issue?

    Horsethief/Pony Rustler BB Crack-img_1099.jpg

    Horsethief/Pony Rustler BB Crack-e3e41764-446c-4e34-9834-af2796b5ebc9.jpg
    Last edited by WoodstockMTB; 06-06-2017 at 01:42 PM.

  2. #2
    mtbr member
    Reputation: grizzler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    437
    Nope... are these aluminum?
    2019 Salsa Horsethief
    2017 Salsa Timberjack
    2014 Salsa Fargo
    Chips

  3. #3
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    1,444
    Carbon

  4. #4
    mtbr member
    Reputation: grizzler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    437
    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    Carbon
    Dang. I'll have a look at mine.
    2019 Salsa Horsethief
    2017 Salsa Timberjack
    2014 Salsa Fargo
    Chips

  5. #5
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    697
    Looked at my XL '16 PR, and it has cracks there too. Not cool. This PR frame is a 2nd warranty replacement for a cracked carbon HT. These cracks look like cracks in the finish, but with carbon it's hard to tell.

    Do you know if the frames pictured above failed, or were warrantied once cracks observed?

    Hmmm. More bike drama I don't need.

  6. #6
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    1,444
    The black Horsethief was the first bike that cracked and it was warranted. My other friends' PR was also warranted.

    They are now dealing with the second cracked frames.

    Did it Fail? The black one developed a creak I think, but it didn't fail to the point of not being rideable as far as I know
    Last edited by WoodstockMTB; 06-11-2017 at 03:18 PM.

  7. #7
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    697
    Thanks for the reply. I can't stop thinking about my frame now. Visual appearing cracks have me concerned. Went on a 20 mile trail ride yesterday and made it through, but pivots (think it's the upper one) is making some serious clanking noise. Tore it apart tonight to clean, re-lube (yes checked hex bolt securing yoke to shock). Found signs of metal to metal rubbing on one side of the linkage - bearing at end of yoke to pivot link. Quite sure that is the source of my clanking. Possibly frame is flexing more than it should resulting in the rubbing/clanking? Not to positive it will go aware with only a clean and re-assembly done. Letting the Loctite dry tonight. Will ride tomorrow.

    Just bothered that I need to be thinking about my bike during big rides. I ride in a big state forest and the last thing I need is a 10 mile hike out. Going camping and riding this weekend, so knock on wood all goes well. Think I'll bring it into the shop next week for a review.

    This is what's going through my mind with your reports of cracks, and the leading indicators I'm seeing on my frame. (pics from HT Facebook group)
    Horsethief/Pony Rustler BB Crack-18056921_1666853726665404_1432849777893054006_n.jpgHorsethief/Pony Rustler BB Crack-18057724_1666852786665498_4670548021739821020_n.jpg

  8. #8
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    1,444
    Oh man...is that your bike? That would make me very nervous. It looks like it just sheared off.

  9. #9
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    697
    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    Oh man...is that your bike? That would make me very nervous. It looks like it just sheared off.
    No, not mine. My warrantied HT's had signs of cracking at the upper shock mount to the top tube. Yeah - bad day for the rider of that bike.

  10. #10
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    12
    I'm on my third carbon HT frame.

    The first frame developed cracks below the seat collar.

    The second frame developed cracks at the forward shock mount AND below the seat collar (for what it's worth, the seat collar on both frames was installed and tightened by my LBS - I assume it was torqued to spec).

    So I'm keeping a close eye on my current frame.

    I really like the bike but that picture above makes me nervous...

  11. #11
    Digger
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    143
    Yup. Will be on my 3rd seat stay, but this is the first time I've cracked the BB.

    LBS is going to cut the headtube and send pics to salsa so I can keep it on the wall.
    Salsa Pony Rustler X01

  12. #12
    Digger
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    143
    Here's a pic of my BB crack:


    Also, 180 degrees from there you can see cracks in 2 places as well. So cracking all the way around was present:
    Salsa Pony Rustler X01

  13. #13
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    1,444
    Quote Originally Posted by jtaylor996 View Post
    Here's a pic of my BB crack:


    Also, 180 degrees from there you can see cracks in 2 places as well. So cracking all the way around was present:
    Pics didnt come through

  14. #14
    Digger
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    143
    This site sucks for pictures. Here'a link to an album: https://imgur.com/a/ITtrU
    Salsa Pony Rustler X01

  15. #15
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Posts
    3

    I guess Iíll stick with aluminum...

    I reckon Iíll stick with aluminum, or maybe go with a Kona Process 153...

Similar Threads

  1. Salsa Pony Rustler
    By voghan in forum 26+/27.5+/29+ Plus Bikes
    Replies: 86
    Last Post: 01-27-2018, 08:17 AM
  2. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-02-2017, 07:38 PM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-05-2016, 10:19 AM
  4. Salsa "Pony Rustler" and "Deadwood"
    By forgiven_nick in forum 26+/27.5+/29+ Plus Bikes
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 09-03-2015, 08:45 AM
  5. Pony Rustler fan page
    By sisu in forum 26+/27.5+/29+ Plus Bikes
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-19-2015, 05:54 AM

Members who have read this thread: 6

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

THE SITE

ABOUT MTBR

VISIT US AT

© Copyright 2019 VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.