Fargo Shifting Question

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  • 01-17-2013
    BigE610
    Fargo Shifting Question
    I have been having some issues with my fargo and shifting. It shifts fine going up but when i shift down it sometimes skips a gear. It almost feels like the indexing is off. Its a fargo 3 with the microshift barend shifters. has anyone else experienced this problem? I have had it tuned up but i just cant seem to get it to work right.
  • 01-17-2013
    singlefin
    This is what I'd do...

    1. Disconnect cable from derailleur.
    2. Adjust high and low limits, and b-tension. I like to do this with the chain off.
    3. Cycle thru the index's and make sure the cable is all the way out.
    4. Set barrel adjuster, or derailleur cable adjuster to 1/2 way out.
    5. Reconnect the derailleur cable and make sure the cable is taut.
    6. Cycle thru shift points and fine tune.
  • 01-17-2013
    delzey
    I have the same issue with my Fargo. It has been well documented in the Fargo thread that the Microshift bar end shifters are less than ideal.

    I was hoping to get satisfactory shifting out of them, but I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade to some Dura Ace bar ends.

    Maybe someone else can recommend a fix to improve their performance, but the general consensus is to simply replace them and be done with it.

    Good luck, and let us know if you discover a remedy yourself! I like how the shift levers feel in the hand when shifting, but their performance is lackluster.
  • 01-17-2013
    johnnystorm
    When I first got my F3 I felt the shifting was hopeless. After a 15 hour (!) ride the other day I found I got used to them and knew when a little tap trimmed the shifting so it worked fine. The front shifting I feel is as good as any I've ever used.
  • 01-17-2013
    Guitar Ted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by delzey View Post
    I have the same issue with my Fargo. It has been well documented in the Fargo thread that the Microshift bar end shifters are less than ideal.

    I was hoping to get satisfactory shifting out of them, but I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and upgrade to some Dura Ace bar ends.

    Maybe someone else can recommend a fix to improve their performance, but the general consensus is to simply replace them and be done with it.

    Good luck, and let us know if you discover a remedy yourself! I like how the shift levers feel in the hand when shifting, but their performance is lackluster.


    Having built several Vaya 3's, (which have the same shifter), I can say that the Microshift problem is that they are sloppy as far as their indexing goes. It is super easy to "overshift" them going to lower gears. The lever will actually stay in this "overshifted position too. I've seen it on all of the ones I've built.

    This will seem like a too tight cable. Then, if you adjust for this, the shifting from lower gears to higher jumps, skips, or is completely off by an entire gear.

    In essence, they almost are a friction shifter. The index click gets you in the ballpark, but you can move the lever around incrementally which affects derailleur position. Weird.
  • 01-17-2013
    BigE610
    Well at least I know I'm not crazy. Thanks guys

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  • 09-08-2014
    the wheel
    If you are using Salsa fargo with micro shifters on a single track ............watch out.......you can kill yourself

    I have just finished a week or so of biking in Sun Valley. I have been on several steep climbs when the chain popped out of the lowest gear and I fell over.........fortunately not off the edge of the track. It would have been a long fall.

    I have taken the bike in a half a dozen times until I found an honorable mechanic who said this shifter won't work for what you want to do.

    The shifter is way too twitchy in index mode although works fine in friction mode

    Does anyone think friction bar end shifters can work for real mountain biking

    Not me

    We are trying to ask salsa for a reasonable price to upgrade to brifters

    I actually think shimano rapid fire shifters are the most reliable of all

    One can make a custom bracket to mount them on either side of the stem. I have done this on one of my commuter with an alfine shifter

    I am very surprised salsa has stepped up and admitted they selected a poor shifting mechanism and made some accord with customers
  • 09-08-2014
    johnnystorm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the wheel View Post
    If you are using Salsa fargo with micro shifters on a single track ............watch out.......you can kill yourself

    I have just finished a week or so of biking in Sun Valley. I have been on several steep climbs when the chain popped out of the lowest gear and I fell over.........fortunately not off the edge of the track. It would have been a long fall.

    I have taken the bike in a half a dozen times until I found an honorable mechanic who said this shifter won't work for what you want to do.

    The shifter is way too twitchy in index mode although works fine in friction mode

    Does anyone think friction bar end shifters can work for real mountain biking

    Not me

    We are trying to ask salsa for a reasonable price to upgrade to brifters

    I actually think shimano rapid fire shifters are the most reliable of all

    One can make a custom bracket to mount them on either side of the stem. I have done this on one of my commuter with an alfine shifter

    I am very surprised salsa has stepped up and admitted they selected a poor shifting mechanism and made some accord with customers

    I'm sure your experience wasn't fun, but aren't you overreacting just a bit?
    Which brifters are you seeking from Salsa, that will shift a 3x9?

    As for rapidfires either side of the stem......yuck!
  • 09-10-2014
    the wheel
    Your are correct...

    The microshifters can be dangerous under certain situations

    The current salsa offering is 10 speed SRAM which won't work I think

    The alternative bar end is the dura ace which I think

    The only 9 speed brifter is the tiagra but not sure it works with discs.....any suggestions

    And finally the rapidfires.

    I have "printed" a bracket which I used with an alfine shifter that is actually comfortable but not as nice as a brifter

    So I' m not sure how it will turn out but it seems there are others with same problem

    Thanks