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    Dos niner - first ride - yes!!!!

    After having recieved my Dos Niner and Reba fork from Speedgoat on Tuesday morning and staying up until 11:30pm on Tuesday night to complete the build, I had a chance to ride it in some of our tight Texas single tracks.

    The build:

    20" Dos Niner
    Reba (silver) fork with remote Pop lock
    Carbon seat post and bar (narrow 22 1/2" width)
    Thompson stem
    Race Face 180 mm cranks w/ Salsa Pro 42/30/20 rings
    Sram XGen front mechanical
    XTR 12/34 rear cassette with xtr rear mechanical
    Scram Rocket Grip Shifters
    Avid Mechanical Disk with XTR Levers (I'm a rim brake man myself but Reba only comes disk)
    Rims are Bont Race (off my GF 292 that I had replaced with better wheels)
    Tires WTB Mutanoraptors 1.75


    What the bike isn't - a full suspension bike, but no one should be buying this bike thinking it is.

    What it is - a beautifully crafted, fast, efficent frame that flies and handles like a race hardtail without the harsh imputs. This bike is meant for speed.

    My impressions - This is the best 29er I've ridden to date and is now my new very best friend. It is extremely responsive to rider imputs both from steering and pedals. Handles and responds like my old K2 Razorback Sl but with the advantages of a 29 wheelr. The Scandium Alum. frame is not your standard Alum. and the rear shock takes just enough edge off the trail without loosing efficiency. Feels stiff for pedals imputs like a alum but the vibrations charateristics of Ti. This bike handles and pedals unbelieveable. But that's for the way I ride. I like to go fast and keep my wheels on the ground. This is my perfect 29 XC race bike. I read alot about rear tire clearence. I don't see this as a problem. Most bikes have equally less between the chainstays and the tire.

    What I dont like - The Reba is heavy compared to my WB .8 and adds about a pound to the bike and the Reba doesn't come with v-brake mounts so I add another pound with disk brakes. I'm not sure I see any advantages of all the Reba bells and whistles for the way I ride with the penalty in weight. But the Reba does ride well and the silver fork just looks killer. I'd just like to shave a few pounds. Having ridden with disk, in our Texas conditions, I'd just as soon have my v's.

    Conclusion - I love this bike for the way I ride. What a smile I had on my face after the first ride. Wow!!!. Plus, it is an eyecatcher. I wasn't sure if I would like the green but with the graphic, quality of build and the silver Reba on this thing, not only goes fast but just looks fast. Lots of comments from others on apperance alone. Waco, TX will be my first expert race this year and this is what I'll be riding with total confidence. I wished my conditioning this year was as good as this bike deserves.

    Thanks to Speedgoat for their fast service and excellent deal package.

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    Thanks for the review! I knew I wanted one, now I know why.

    A pound over a WB? Less than half a pound, right? Or...?
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    Closer to pound

    Speedgaot list the Reba at 1702 grams and the WB.8 at 1290. That's 412 grams difference. I usually trust Speedgoats #'s. Plus the Reba has a remote lockout that's somewhat heavy and adds grams and don't know if that's included in SG's weight. Knew it was heavier than the WB the minute I got it out of the box. It feels like a pound on the front end.

    Probably going to take the WB off the Ti bike and try it on the Dos with my Avid Ti v'brakes and Dave Thomas wheels to see what that feels like.

    I'm afraid the Ti bike is going on the rack for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenseltz
    Thanks to Speedgoat for their fast service and excellent deal package.
    pictures, we need pictures!!

    Also, it was recently discussed that the price on Speedgoat went from 750 to 1000+.

    Without saying anything you're not comfortable saying, were you able to make this price change a non-issue in a package deal invironment?
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    Deal

    The deal I got with SG was the same that everyone can get. 1250 for frame and fork. For a scandium frame, not just a run of the mill alum frame, and a fork - that in my book was a deal I couldn't pass up when I was looking for the fastest, bad a#@$ race rig available. Man is this this sweet. But again that's for my purpose which is a mix of speed, comfort and efficiency.

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    1290g is a figure one day a long time ago used for a 26" 1400+g fork back in the days of former WB ownership. My WB's, CX-1 and BW .8 both are 1565g cut to size.
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    Reba

    When I take the Reba off to try the WB.8 I'll put both the Reba on a gram counted with the remote lockout and the WB.8 and see what the difference is. Both steerer tube are the same and it will be interesting. I will tell you though, I do feel a difference. Could be a brain thing since I really like my WB, but the silver fork on this frame, green with the silver lettering, just looks gooood!!!!

    I do want to add on thing. My Ti bike built up with almost identical parts except for the Reba fork and disk brakes weighs 23.4 pounds. The Dos weighs at almost 25.1. The frames are almost identical in weight with the Dos maybe being a tad lighter. I know I'm getting a pound from the disk brakes that only leaves the fork.
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    Pictures now!
    This thread is USELESS without pictures!!!

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    Yea, I know

    I knew you guys would want pictures, having finished the build at 11:30 Tues night and trying putting it through it's shake down cruise last night, just ran out of time for pictures. Will try to take a few after work and see if I can post tomorrow. May have a little dirt on it, because I'm riding again tonight.

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    <img src="https://www.speedgoat.com/images/gallery/050217.jpg">

    snagged from Speedgoats website

    they mention that the fork is an old Marzocchi downhill fork...SWEET!
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    I think that;s the Marzocchi Shiver fork Chris @ Speedgoat modified and had on his Titus aka Asylum project before it was fully born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenseltz
    When I take the Reba off to try the WB.8 I'll put both the Reba on a gram counted with the remote lockout and the WB.8 and see what the difference is. Both steerer tube are the same and it will be interesting.
    My Reba weighs 1737 grams (3.83 pounds) and with Cloxxki's weight of his that makes the Reba only 172 grams heavier.

    Are there some disk brakes now just as light as v's?
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    Good Info

    Is that the Race with remote pop lock? I'd like to know what the handle bar mounted control weighs.

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    Yup...It weighs 4.02 pounds with remote, cable, and housing (all uncut, including fork steerer tube.)
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    Pics

    A couple of pics of the build and a racing pic of me on my Ti 29er looking to pass a 26.

    Sorry if the pic quality suffers due to resize.
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    I would imagine that thing flat hauls the mail with Mutanoraptors! Do you have to be hesitant in rock gardens though?

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    Terrain

    This bike is the fastest, best handling bike I've ridden 26 or 29 as set up. Terrain dictates what's smart to ride. The trails I ride and race in Texas are generally tight single track with hard pack and minimal rock gardens. In the hill country of south Texas is where I'd probably swith to Nanos which aren't that much slower but give an extra comfort zone in the rocks they have in that area.

    The more I ride this bike, the more I like it. I'm even beginning to like the Rock Shox with the PopLoc even though it adds a few grams. The 28 spoke Bont Race are a bit flexy for my taste and will need to be upgrades if I plan on staying with disk. I'm not small at 6'2" 190 lbs. and there is a lot of load forces acting on the front wheel hub and spokes using disk. I'd prefer a 32 spoke rim.

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    stevenseltz - thanks for the review. I'm glad to see a few opinions of the Dos Niner coming in. I was hoping to buuild the Dos for the same reasons - a light race 29er. I read you have the 20" frame - how tall are you? The standover on the size range of frames seem pretty tall. I like the TT length on the 20" but the standover is huge. I'm thinking of going 18" and stretching the stem out a little or getting a laid back post.

    I love the guys at Speedgoat. I've been this close to pulling the trigger on there deal a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    I think that;s the Marzocchi Shiver fork Chris @ Speedgoat modified and had on his Titus aka Asylum project before it was fully born.

    Schweet.
    I saw that photo today on the Speedgoat site - what modifications had to be made to the Shiver Single Crown for it to be 29" compatible? I wonder if you could do that with a Dorado Single Crown as well????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSwami.com
    stevenseltz - thanks for the review. I'm glad to see a few opinions of the Dos Niner coming in. I was hoping to buuild the Dos for the same reasons - a light race 29er. I read you have the 20" frame - how tall are you? The standover on the size range of frames seem pretty tall. I like the TT length on the 20" but the standover is huge. I'm thinking of going 18" and stretching the stem out a little or getting a laid back post.

    I love the guys at Speedgoat. I've been this close to pulling the trigger on there deal a few times.
    I'm little over 6'2" and I've always ridden a smaller bike and adjusted the riding position using a seatpost and stem. Our trails in Texas are rather tight singletrack and I like a smaller bike for CG and wheelbase.

    I raced the bike in Waco, TX this weekend and the frame as a racebike was to me as superb. I sucked wind big, but the bike was great. After the last eight months of leg and knee trouble plus working 60 to 70 hours a week with no training, I certainly wasn't ready to race and boy did it show. After being use to being toward the front, last place was a little tough. Probably wouldn't have finished if the bike wasn't as good as it is.

    I am going to make a couple of changes for the next race in two weeks. I'm going to put on my WB .8 fork and switch out the disk for my lightweight v's. I have a better set of rim brake race wheels that run better and are stiffer than this disk set. This last race was my first race on disk and I personally like my v's better for the way I ride. It should also lighten the bike by about 2 lbs. Now we'll see if I can get my conditioning up to par.

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    This front derailleur seems to give a lot of clearance to the rear tire.
    Could you post a close up pic, please ?
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    Chainstays are also not KM-short, you know.
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