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    Anyone know when Salsa will put out info on there 2018 models?

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    Last year they announced on 7/25
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Last year they announced on 7/25


    Thank you for the info

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    Let's hope for a steel hardtail...el Mariachi 2.0!?!

    Or I'm going new SIR9.

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    I put in for a 2018 Beargrease carbon, was just wondering when I could find out what I am actually buying spec wise. Should be soon

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    I'd love to see the El Mar come back. Plus, I'd love to see Salsa not price themselves out of competition with other brands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeKiller View Post
    I'd love to see the El Mar come back. Plus, I'd love to see Salsa not price themselves out of competition with other brands.
    Agreed! A new El Mar would be great. Possibly with an actual XC geometry. I like the more trail oriented geo, but sometimes I want something more "racey." I am probably alone in that thought...

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    Well since we are "wish listing" - I'll put in my plug for an updated Blackborow über-expedition, go everywhere, fat bike.
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    A Timberjack we can actually get in the UK?

    More sensible £ to $ pricing? Not all frames, a £2400 Pony Rustler isn't too bad, but a £1899 Woodsmoke frame is! Especially when the cheapest full build is $1999 USD I think.

    New version of the Pony Rustler would be good, internal cable routing and longer stroke/metric shock.

    An aluminium Warbird that can take 27.5x2.2ish as well. We have been using the NS RAG+ and it's great.

    Warbird carbon frameset - see previous price post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Well since we are "wish listing" - I'll put in my plug for an updated Blackborow über-expedition, go everywhere, fat bike.
    X2

    Titanium Blackborow to fit 2XL's on 100mm rims. I'd buy that straight away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    X2

    Titanium Blackborow to fit 2XL's on 100mm rims. I'd buy that straight away.
    Rad. An excellent northern rockies (or anywhere where there's lots of snow and no grooming) winter expeditionary ride. I would buy one of those in a couple years once Ive gotten enough value from the Ventana El Gordo i built 2 years ago when I couldnt find a blackborrow to buy.

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    Bring back the El Mariachi with plus compatibility in steel and ti flavors!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalsbikecare View Post
    A Timberjack we can actually get in the UK?

    More sensible £ to $ pricing? Not all frames, a £2400 Pony Rustler isn't too bad, but a £1899 Woodsmoke frame is! Especially when the cheapest full build is $1999 USD I think.

    New version of the Pony Rustler would be good, internal cable routing and longer stroke/metric shock.

    An aluminium Warbird that can take 27.5x2.2ish as well. We have been using the NS RAG+ and it's great.

    Warbird carbon frameset - see previous price post!
    I love the external cable routing on my HT, just wish I could have a threaded BB..

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    It's my understanding that the Timberjack replaced the El Mariachi.

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    New Mariachi is 29+ austenitic stainless steel with jones loop bar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsukurac View Post
    New Mariachi is 29+ austenitic stainless steel with jones loop bar
    whoa, super cool.

    i'm a fan of stainless but seems like a weird choice for a bike like that. isn't it supposed to be heavier than chromoly, or weaker and therefore need more material (and therefore more weight) for the same strength? there's a 2015 vaya travel at my lbs that i sort of lust after...
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    Anyone have any info or even educated speculation on whether a 27.5”x4” FS bike is in the works? Something to compete with the Farley EX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaumaturge View Post
    Anyone have any info or even educated speculation on whether a 27.5”x4” FS bike is in the works? Something to compete with the Farley EX?
    My educated speculation is that the Bucksaw is getting an update.

    Mukluk and Beargrease updated to 27.5+ for 2018:
    https://fat-bike.com/2017/08/saddled...at-beargrease/
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    The Beargrease and Mukaluk are up on the website
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    Amazing! It's like they read my mind. Keen to see what the 2018 BS looks like now.

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    FYI - video interview of Kid Riemer on the QBP Facedork page says Salsa wont be releasing details of the rest of the 2018 line until September 8. Only Mukluk and Beargrease detalis now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rth009 View Post
    FYI - video interview of Kid Riemer on the QBP Facedork page says Salsa wont be releasing details of the rest of the 2018 line until September 8. Only Mukluk and Beargrease detalis now.
    Good to know. Realistically I'm 12-15 months away from a new bike anyway, so a few days waiting to see what comes out in 2018 isn't going to be too bad for me.

    I've been loving the 27.5 x 3.8 so much that I'm glad we are likely to see someone other than Trek offer it on a full suspension bike. Nothing against Trek, just no way to buy one locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rth009 View Post
    FYI - video interview of Kid Riemer on the QBP Facedork page says Salsa wont be releasing details of the rest of the 2018 line until September 8. Only Mukluk and Beargrease detalis now.
    they think they are super special with this mistery...

    I am in the market for 29+, could some of the fan bois please tell me why one would choose Woodsmoke over Stache (cheaper, lifetime warranty, rides better, nicer frame...) or Fargo titanium over e.g. Why cycles Wayward (lifetime warranty, frame set with fork relatively cheaper with compared with what you get with fargo (rigid fork, 5 year warranty). No they are not diferrent bikes, you can run flat or jones on Fargo with no problem.

    Is it just fanboism or are there other arguments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsukurac View Post
    New Mariachi is 29+ austenitic stainless steel with jones loop bar

    is this just speculation or do you have the inside scoop?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsukurac View Post
    New Mariachi is 29+ austenitic stainless steel with jones loop bar
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLucille View Post
    is this just speculation or do you have the inside scoop?!
    trolling tbh, would be interested to get the answers to my above questions

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    New model, it uses the old Blackborrow name but this very different, and new colors are up on the website.

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    Here is the new blackborrow link

    Introducing the NEW Blackborow! | Salsa Cycles

    Nothing so far on the full suspension trailbikes.

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    Interesting the Cutthroat has a more affordable version now. Can anyone explain the difference, at least the purpose, between the Cutthroat and the Fargo?

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    I had really been hoping for something exciting with the Vaya as I'm in the middle of putting together a build blueprint. Look, it's ****ing nothing! Yay. Glad they're keeping the Fargo Ti frameset for this year.
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    No update to the Bucksaw for 2018? Or are we still waiting for info?

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    I'm not sure whether to be puzzled by Salsa's recent decisions, or support their willingness to produce bikes for tiny sub-niches that hardly any other larger brand seems willing to touch. I guess a little of both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartyinWI View Post
    Interesting the Cutthroat has a more affordable version now. Can anyone explain the difference, at least the purpose, between the Cutthroat and the Fargo?
    Cutthroat = more race oriented. Carbon frame, designed for the Tour Divide (how they market it)

    I don't know if the geo is much different, you'll have to check. I'd guess it's more aggressive too (Fargo is very relaxed with stem/bar height).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeKiller View Post
    I'd love to see the El Mar come back. Plus, I'd love to see Salsa not price themselves out of competition with other brands.
    They already have. It's hard to imagine a made in China frame as a boutique brand. But Salsa thinks they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    They already have. It's hard to imagine a made in China frame as a boutique brand. But Salsa thinks they are.
    I think most of the "mainstream boutique" brand frames are made in China or Taiwan. (Yeti, Santa Cruz, Ibis, etc.) Not saying Salsa is a competitor to these brands, as Salsa seems to be making their own market. But the pricing is interesting to say the least.

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    Should I wait for 2018 Fargo if I want to buy one now? Can't tell if there are major differences as a noob..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    They already have. It's hard to imagine a made in China frame as a boutique brand. But Salsa thinks they are.
    So are all Salsa frames made in China now? I thought they were made in Taiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    No update to the Bucksaw for 2018? Or are we still waiting for info?
    I've been in touch with Salsa via FBook chat and was told no changes for the Bucksaw in 2018. FWIW

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmike6453 View Post
    Should I wait for 2018 Fargo if I want to buy one now? Can't tell if there are major differences as a noob..

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    Any beta on 2108 Deadwood SUS: colors, builds and avalibilty

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    Any beta on 2108 Deadwood SUS: colors, builds and avalibilty
    2108 is a long time from now. I hope that ill still be alive and riding !

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