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    Rocky Mountain Slayer!

    So,, this beast is pretty much a single crown DH bike?

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    Dang, that is stupid slack and long. Curious to see how it pedals, because on paper, it definitely looks like a FR machine!

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    Frame weight anyone?

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    Wow, how the Slayer has evolved from 15 years ago! Just by looking at the $3200 all carbon frame, my guess is a sub 6.5 lb frame....which is just crazy considering that it IS a mini DH bike! Stunning bike all around!

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    I'm glad to see the slayer back! I loved my first gen slayer and the 2012 gen (3rd? I think). Went to a Kona and love it, but this puts RM back on my radar for my next bike.

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    When's the Slayer coming to LBS?
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    Sounds like November up in Canada

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    Thank goodness.
    I'm riding a 2013 Slayer now, and love it... was wondering what I would do in a few years with no Slayers being born.
    My bike, Slayer 70

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    Still riding my 2008 slayer sxc70 ! The head angle is too steep and the bike is too short for my taste. The position and the rear suspension are not ideal for climbing. But it's still a great bike.

    This new one could make me upgrade my bike to full carbon

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    Got my frame on order for arrival sometime in Nov.
    Gonna start with a 180mm fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    Got my frame on order for arrival sometime in Nov.
    Gonna start with a 180mm fork
    what color did you go with

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    Both are nice, I went with blue

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    i'd love to hear some reviews on this thing when they start popping up

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    Although i pulled the trigger on a Sb6, i'll be demo'ing the Slayer this Sunday and will do a ride report.

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    Just got back from outter bike . The slayer is the winner . But shhh don't tell nobody

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    Having ridden the Maiden, the crossover is obvious--this is a DH bike masked as something you can pedal. Make no mistake, you definitely know your pedaling uphill on this machine, but the moment you point it back down, that's quickly forgotten. It's straight up a monster on the downs. Aside from the plow factor, still retained a good playfulness when things got tight and I managed to clear all the switchbacks without much effort.

    If you're looking for a sledgehammer, yeah, this is the ticket.

    Oh at 6', the large was perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klainmeister View Post
    Having ridden the Maiden, the crossover is obvious--this is a DH bike masked as something you can pedal. Make no mistake, you definitely know your pedaling uphill on this machine, but the moment you point it back down, that's quickly forgotten. It's straight up a monster on the downs. Aside from the plow factor, still retained a good playfulness when things got tight and I managed to clear all the switchbacks without much effort.

    If you're looking for a sledgehammer, yeah, this is the ticket.

    Oh at 6', the large was perfect.
    it pedals up hill slow because of it's angles or the suspension is really open?

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    I thought it climbed technical terrain amazingly . So much traction . Just keep spinning . It seemed to climb technical terrain better than the sb6

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    I got a chance to ride on a Slayer this last saturday.

    My description of the bike is that it is so good, you'll get yourself into trouble by arriving into turns and chunky sections faster than you considered possible, and suspension that is so well sorted you can push really hard before running out of talent. Definitely a bike that lets you ride at a really high level, and usable as sledgehammer. I didn't get to ride it on a trail wholly deserving of that capability, but it was extremely happy with my 235lb of stupid stringing together the worst possible line choice over everywhere I took it.

    It happened to be the full bling Fox36/FloatX2/SixC demo unit, and considering how long the demo bikes have been in the wild the dings in the finish everywhere can only be explained by journalists and consumer demo riders finding themselves pushing their own limits and discovering where those are. I certainly did, and collected some cacti impacts as a result.
    As it turns out, 800mm bars and impressive cornering grip is a combination for collecting cactus spines from the inside of turns, and carrying ludicrous speed and laying down two-wheel drifts in loose sections means collecting cactus contact from the outside of turns.

    Climbing capability is quite good - not sure how much of that is the high end build across the board (got to be a bit), but I know that I'd take the climbing behavior of the Slayer with 2.5 DHF Minions over a carbon Pipeline on 2.8 Rekons, and the Pipeline wasn't a slouch. The size Large didn't really fit me, the 35mm stem didn't help a ton. Still an absolute blast, and if I spent much time at the bike park or running rough enduro stages where I could send it, then I'd get one.
    Really makes me curious what Rocky could do if they made a Slayer-type 29er, because that would be my jam.

    TL;DR: Try one if you can.
    I thought it was amazing, even though I didn't have the right trail or really a use for that bike, it was awesome to see what it can do. I was finding doubles on stuff I wasn't aware was possible to link up, and turning what would be rolled step-downs into boosted drops to flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    It seemed to climb technical terrain better than the sb6
    I think that actually says a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric View Post
    I think that actually says a lot.
    Which is interesting because I actually was able to ride the same trail the same day on the SB6 and on the Slayer. SB6 I was 2 gears harder going up the climbs since it pedals that much more efficient, yet the Slayer didn't feel 'slow' per se.

    The Slayer, to me, pedals pretty darn good considering it's intentions, but the super slack HTA and stack height was a bit hard on the super steep and loose climbs. Traction was there, but if I stood up, wallowed deep into the travel and would pedal strike. I don't get that on the SB6.

    Otherwise, very comparable with an edge to the Yeti on the up, edge to the Slayer on the down and you can't go wrong either way. What a day and age we live in at the moment!

    EDIT: one way to think about it is the Slayer does great as a sit and grind while the SB6 allows me to be more active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klainmeister View Post
    Which is interesting because I actually was able to ride the same trail the same day on the SB6 and on the Slayer. SB6 I was 2 gears harder going up the climbs since it pedals that much more efficient, yet the Slayer didn't feel 'slow' per se.

    The Slayer, to me, pedals pretty darn good considering it's intentions, but the super slack HTA and stack height was a bit hard on the super steep and loose climbs. Traction was there, but if I stood up, wallowed deep into the travel and would pedal strike. I don't get that on the SB6.

    Otherwise, very comparable with an edge to the Yeti on the up, edge to the Slayer on the down and you can't go wrong either way. What a day and age we live in at the moment!

    EDIT: one way to think about it is the Slayer does great as a sit and grind while the SB6 allows me to be more active.
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    Yeah, just haven't been a big fan of Pivot over the years (reach was always short, cable routing was awful), but the new stuff looks interesting. Oh well, already committed to the SB6 after trying the lot, would've considered the Slayer, but alas, it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klainmeister View Post
    Yeah, just haven't been a big fan of Pivot over the years (reach was always short, cable routing was awful), but the new stuff looks interesting. Oh well, already committed to the SB6 after trying the lot, would've considered the Slayer, but alas, it is what it is.
    the reach on the bird is massive. just wait until you get to route the dropper cable on the sb6 haha

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    Did you guys have a chance to weigh the slayer?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klainmeister View Post
    Which is interesting because I actually was able to ride the same trail the same day on the SB6 and on the Slayer. SB6 I was 2 gears harder going up the climbs since it pedals that much more efficient, yet the Slayer didn't feel 'slow' per se.

    The Slayer, to me, pedals pretty darn good considering it's intentions, but the super slack HTA and stack height was a bit hard on the super steep and loose climbs. Traction was there, but if I stood up, wallowed deep into the travel and would pedal strike. I don't get that on the SB6.

    Otherwise, very comparable with an edge to the Yeti on the up, edge to the Slayer on the down and you can't go wrong either way. What a day and age we live in at the moment!

    EDIT: one way to think about it is the Slayer does great as a sit and grind while the SB6 allows me to be more active.
    Your comparo is great, the slayer and sb6 are also at the top of my list to change my 2007 Nomad. Do you remember if the slayer was in the slackest position when you tried it? Were you able to climb a bit of steep stuff and if so how is weel flop compared to the sb6? Many thanks

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    I rode the Slayer in the neutral position and had the rear shock set to about 30% sag and the front around 20%.

    I had two steep climbs that involve tight turns, some baby head style rocks, and a few ledges. Cleared it all just like I would on the SB6. The Slayer is no slouch, no doubt about it. Instead of standing to punch up one of the tighter turns with a rock that requires some finesse, I ended up just putting it into spin gear, stayed seated, and just powered through fine. Like I was saying, gearing ended up being lower than the Sb6, but i didn't feel 'slower' if that makes sense. Wheel flop felt the same as any other 65* bike with a 40mm stem

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    From all the reviews about the new Slayer one conclusion stood up for me from bikeradar.com (testing the 950 version) :
    "The Slayer sits at interesting crossroads of enduro crushing and do-it-all capability. While it's super impressive in its ability to annihilate nasty runs, which is perfect for its enduro race billing, I was left wondering if it was too much, possibly losing a bit of the pop and playfulness that makes mid-travel bikes so fun."

    it also relates to a bike like the new Firebird and some other bikes available today - are these bikes too much "race" oriented ? too much travel,too long,too slack,heavy without a super high end build...
    it kinda seems that bikes like the sb6c,patrol,process 153,rfx,insurgent... can rip on the descends in a similar way but with a bit less travel and more "fun" geo.

    are the new "super enduro" bikes just too much for most riders that consider them ?

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    km - totally concur on it being a more seated pedaling bike. Horst-type bikes are almost always this way for me, but it climbed neatly and once it got bumpy uphill, just keeping the pedals in motion dragged my tubby and exhausted self up [was also stupidly chasing a much fitter rider on an Element]. I've never minded that, and particularly for a bike that is biased towards shredded the dog poop out of the way down, I'd be totally happy with that tradeoff.

    Quote Originally Posted by gbcoke View Post
    are the new "super enduro" bikes just too much for most riders that consider them ?
    Considering how invested the entire mountain bike journalism camp is invested in being able to differentiate between a 'gravity race' bike and an 'all-day trail bike', and that the most valuable skillset required for writing in such publications is to a) write well, b) not injure yourself, I think there is a fair bit of much ado about nothing. Even the most race-overkill Enduro bike right now still climbs more efficiently than most trail bikes from 4 years ago, and plenty of riders will happily make that compromise to have more fun coming back down.

    A really capable 6" travel bike that is setup for maximum traction on rough descents will make flow trails and flat sections a snooze. Still possible to play with the suspension and get a fair bit of that poppy feeling back. Longer bikes require more effort to chuck around, but it's still absolutely possible to do so, I'm constantly having to remind myself that my bike in its current configuration would be lambasted in a bike test for being too slack and uninspiring on easy terrain (which it is), but it's exactly what I need to keep myself rubber down after getting overzealous on rougher descents.

    If anything, I'd re-encapsulate what they're getting at from the perspective of what bike is the best for most people to buy. A LOT of mountain bike buyers will go and buy too much bike, and consider it as an aspirational thing that the bike can have way more extra capability, whether or not they use it. Fast forward a while, and they've discovered that the longer travel bike makes the less interesting trails that they spend most of their time on not as enjoyable as something with less travel.
    What they're trying to do, which is awesome, is steer buyers towards getting a bike which is just barely capable of what they're trying to do with it, because that'll be the most riotously fun bike possible, but still have just enough to handle the toughest thing possible. Since riders aren't always honest with themselves about it (guilty as charged here), instead the phrasing is more along the lines of 'too much of a race bike' being what they feel will steer people away from bikes that are so planted and stable that many riders will write them off as less exciting bikes.

    In the full-bling build, that bike is plenty playful. Admittedly, I took the time to dink with the LSC/HSC settings on the X2 to make it a touch more lively at the demo, but the Slayer is plenty playful if you're willing to treat it like the type of bike that designers have installed a hockey mask decal on. Takes larger inputs, but once I came to terms with how much body english and hip giration was asked for, that thing was just dangerously awesome.

    If your concern is that it is too much bike, then get an Altitude, put an X2/Fox36 on it, and then rock on. Guys like Jesse Melamed and Florian Nicolai have already shown how insanely good that configuration is.

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    The Slayer seems to be heavily targeted at the Enduro race market as it has quickly become their factory Enduro Team bike after the EWS race in Whistler. That also makes it well suited to bike parks (as opposed to true WC DH races that the Maiden is built for), so it is likely a big market segment to target, but also likely not a direct replacement for the Altitude which has been very popular in the AM market.
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    When I rode the Altitude I thought to myself "climbs excellent, pops off of the smallest of obstacles, and surgical on descents". It was hugely playful and more than enough for 98% of the local trails. The Slayer...well, it wants to go downhill badly.

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    So you guys are saying, one can justify to have an altitude (not the Rally) AND a Slayer and each bike has its specific 'field of application'?

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    Not really, but there's enough of a difference that's notable. If you have steep, crazy descents with drops and jumps, Slayer all the way, if it's more traditional singletrack, I'd personally want the playfulness of the alititude.

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    What is wrong with me?! I just want to read Rocky Mountain Slayer reviews!!!!

    Somebody talk to me!! anyone else got a demo ride in???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    What is wrong with me?! I just want to read Rocky Mountain Slayer reviews!!!!

    Somebody talk to me!! anyone else got a demo ride in???
    Haha, same here. My local store is supposed to receive one early November but will not let customers try it so I'll only be able to sit on it and look at it! snif snif He tried to get me a demo from Rocky but couldn't! snif snif

    So all we can do for now is wait for nice riders here to give us some info and eventually may be some real reviews (not the typical first ride marketing BS) will come out in magazines...

    The wait is painful! ;-)

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    I actually road one at outterbike right after two days of riding all the yeti's.... the Slayer ( and the Thunderbolt BC) out shined all the yetis for me... ( I did enjoy the yetis and was about to buy an sb6 after demoing them all)...

    then I visited rocky mountain booth. I think a lot of it had to do with suspension set up. But they both ( slayer and Thunder BC) just felt like the perfect balance of pedaling, climbing, very stable with perfect geometry, while remaining very nimble and playful. All this combined with having a very refined and dialed feel. Similar to what I feel on high end specialized bikes, or high end skis. They felt perfect.

    I am about to pre order a slayer... but alas its been a month since demo and now i'm having,.... "Are you sure thats the right bike" thoughts... when I all ready know it is. As soon as I get the bike those thoughts will disappear. ( hopefully lol)

    I all ready have a carbon epic for full on xc duties... I live near moab, in the high rockies... so I want to go full bang for the big bike slayer to have Captain Ahab/ Enchilada stuff fully covered...

    but now im starting to have thoughts of.... that thunderbolt BC sure would be amazing for a TON of the riding I do....

    First world problems...

    I was hoping to keep my quiver to:
    XC Race - Epic
    All Mountain - Slayer

    But who knows by next summer I may have to get the middle of the road bike too just to leave no unanswered questions. ( Thunderbolt BC)

    I really do believe once my quiver is complete... I can just be happy with the 2-3 bikes for the next 5+ years. Wishful thinking I know. I really don't want to be the guy that is always obsessing over the next new thing. More so I'm a guy who always wants the best tool for the job, as I know how much MORE FUN it is to be on the perfect bike for the right trail ...

    First world problems..

    I wish I had more time on the slayer. Specifically more variety of climbing. The sb6 absolutely railed up fire road type climbs... i was passing people left and right on xc bikes - climbing up the portal road out of the mag 7 shuttle.

    the slayer felt awesome climbing technical chunk... but i only took 1 ride on it... so more variety would be helpful to understand its climbing prowess... the limited tech climbing i did felt impeccable.



    Someone talk dirty to me about slayers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    I wish I had more time on the slayer. Specifically more variety of climbing. The sb6 absolutely railed up fire road type climbs... i was passing people left and right on xc bikes - climbing up the portal road out of the mag 7 shuttle.

    the slayer felt awesome climbing technical chunk... but i only took 1 ride on it... so more variety would be helpful to understand its climbing prowess... the limited tech climbing i did felt impeccable.
    This is music to my ears because I couldn't care less about fireroad climbs, flip of a switch on the shock and that is taken car of.

    However, my concern is technical climbs, suspension impact on traction for steep technical stuff, deep suspension squatting when it's steep, front wheel flop on steep sections...

    I've used a VPP suspension for almost 10 years now so I have quite a bit of apprehension going back to horst link since it was quite a positive revelation when I switched from horst to VPP! ;-)

    I guess time will tell because other then the horst link concern, to me this Slayer has it all, geometry is perfect, parts spec vs price is perfect, and looks is great...

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    whats your current bike Banzai?? or quiver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    whats your current bike Banzai?? or quiver
    I've got a 2007 Nomad, geometry is more like today's trail bikes and it was an Enduro back then!

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    New Media Reviews!!!

    Outerbike Test Sessions: Rocky Mountain Slayer - Mtbr.com


    Hoooray for new media reviews!!!!!! Very high scores!!!

    For the record, looks like the road the top of the line 790 with the fox suspension and had a nosiy bike...

    at the same test I was on the 770 with the rock shox bike, and had a dead silent bike. with heavenly suppleness akin to a magic carpet ride...

    the rockshox stuff all felt way more supple off the top then the fox stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    Outerbike Test Sessions: Rocky Mountain Slayer - Mtbr.com


    Hoooray for new media reviews!!!!!! Very high scores!!!
    For the record, looks like the road the top of the line 790 with the fox suspension and had a nosiy bike...

    at the same test I was on the 770 with the rock shox bike, and had a dead silent bike. with heavenly suppleness akin to a magic carpet ride...

    the rockshox stuff all felt way more supple off the top then the fox stuff...
    sounds like it was the derailer anyway no big deal

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    Im Just going to leave this here....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLfvDG3B79s


    WARNING: this might be the single greatest video of all time , if the evaluation criteria is based on how stoked it gets you to ride the new SLLLLLLAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAGGGGGERRRHHHERRRR!!!!! !

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    I'm hearing no slayers until next year

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    I was told November for some models of slayer , march for others ....

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    Of course next year is only 60 days away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill View Post
    Of course next year is only 60 days away.
    ya i'm told none of them will be available now until january. especially frame only

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    Usually the early production goes to the southern hemisphere markets first since it is prime bike buying season in Australia and South Africa now.
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    I'm hearing end of November now at our local shop.

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    Delay possibly due to the X2 recall?

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    has anyone seen the red in person?

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    Hey,

    Hoping someone can help me with some advice.

    I am looking at ordering a Slayer but dont know what to do about the rest of the bikes.

    Just sold a Banshee Rune so I'm left with a Maiden and a slack hardtail.

    Should I sell the DH bike as well and replace the Rune and Maiden with a Slayer and a short travel trail bike. Or just stick with a Slayer and a hardtail?

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    slayer and short travel trail bike

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    To be completely honest, a Slayer and a Thunderbolt, or a Slayer and a slack AM hardtail will handle nearly everything one could want out of a pair of off-road bicycles. Neither is an XC-race bike or a pure DH bike, but for everything in between, that style of two-bike quiver works in my mind. Bonus points - can share wheels, and the hardtail is an ideal wintertime bike.

    I think the Slayer would be up to the task as a park/FR bike if you have the suspension well sorted, but that really depends how much time you're spending on the Maiden, and if you'd still want a pure DH double-crown bike in addition to an all-mountain through park bike.

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    For 2017 it looks like my quiver is going to be a new Slayer and a dirt jump hardtail, I'll be putting the Slayer through dh racing and a week in whistler so I'll get to see how it holds up to that abuse. I'd also really like to try having a three bike quiver someday, would be a dirt jump hard tail, a maiden, and and instinct or altitude, but I feel like with that combo I wouldn't ride the maiden enough as I'd like, only would get on it at races or park days, so I feel like having a Slayer and being really familiar with it could be just as fast as a maiden, plus the slayer looks like a super fun bike, and should fit me a lot better at 6'2" and still growing (I've ridden some large maidens and they felt so tiny, and the XL isn't a whole lot bigger)

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    Just got the official word from my local bike shop. New slayers not arriving until January. Super bummed. Sounds like the delay is on Rocky's manufacturing end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skooks View Post
    Just got the official word from my local bike shop. New slayers not arriving until January. Super bummed. Sounds like the delay is on Rocky's manufacturing end.
    told ya guys

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    I see that the new Elements and Element BC edition are arriving at the LBS here in Vancouver, so they likely had the first slot in frame production over the Slayer frames, I would bet that the big mountain freeride market has a northern hemisphere riding season bias and the XC bike market has a spring time priority for the southern hemisphere. That is the downside of carbon frames, the maximum rate of production will be determined by the number of moulds you have and the backup through the layup and oven part of the production line, so they have to pick a production sequence.

    Usually the brand new XC bikes aren't available in Canada until April unless there is some spill over from the production for the southern hemisphere, and then once in a while they are available just about now..
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    Pulled the trigger and ordered a 770 in red. Let the wait begin.
    March can't come soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cortolillo87 View Post
    Pulled the trigger and ordered a 770 in red. Let the wait begin.
    March can't come soon enough.
    March? That kinda sucks that they are that delayed.

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    March? Damn.. They've been telling us in aus to expect them early Jan

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    March to April is usually when the new bikes arrive in North America, Australia and South Africa usually get earlier production runs as the riding season is still happening while the snows melt here
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    I work at a shop that deals Rocky and I've been trying to get ahold of our Rocky dealer for a week or so now to ask him about when they are coming in (and about ordering one myself). Hopefully I can talk with him soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cortolillo87 View Post
    Should I sell the DH bike as well and replace the Rune and Maiden with a Slayer and a short travel trail bike. Or just stick with a Slayer and a hardtail?
    Quote Originally Posted by tehllama View Post
    To be completely honest, a Slayer and a Thunderbolt, or a Slayer and a slack AM hardtail will handle nearly everything one could want out of a pair of off-road bicycles. Neither is an XC-race bike or a pure DH bike, but for everything in between, that style of two-bike quiver works in my mind. Bonus points - can share wheels, and the hardtail is an ideal wintertime bike.

    I think the Slayer would be up to the task as a park/FR bike if you have the suspension well sorted, but that really depends how much time you're spending on the Maiden, and if you'd still want a pure DH double-crown bike in addition to an all-mountain through park bike.
    Agree completely with Tehllama. Final decision seems to be based on where and what you like to ride the most, and the ride experience you want. It's always a trade off and different folks prioritize different aspects.

    - I have a hardtail that hangs in the garage without wheels. I rode it a ton last year but won't use it much in the future - still it's nice to have on hand and the wheels of other bikes fit so it only takes 5 minutes to get it running.

    - I use a SC Hightower for most stuff I need/want to pedal to. Someone mentioned earlier that a lot of folks tend to over bike thinking that they have room to grow into the capabilities of the machine. I tried that with a Nomad; turns out I didn't like riding it anywhere I really needed to do a lot of pedaling. This travel category is way more capable and fun (for me) than an XC type rig, but still pedals far better than a 150+ bike. Even in Moab I enjoyed the Hightower better than the Nomad. I did the 5-day CB Ultra Enduro on a 140/150 Norco Sight. Now if I was aiming for a podium I would have wanted more bike but I'm a 40yo hack, not a pro.

    - I'm looking at the Slayer to fill my Park riding needs. I'm not racing DH so a dedicated dual crown just seems a bit limited. Also when I've tried it, I found I preferred something like the Nomad/Slayer to the actual DH bike on most of the lift areas I've ridden. These bikes give you damn close to a true DH bike's capability but open up much more terrain since they pedal pretty well. There are pedal trails I ride where I wouldn't mind more travel - specifically one that has about a dozen drops. You can roll them all, or you can huck them. A gentle huck is mellow, an aggressive huck is 5' to flat. Slayer would own this.

    ...also I used to love the band in the early '90s so there's that

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    Slayer In the house!

    Our lbs received their first Slayer today and it happened to be the one we pre-ordered last fall. Great looking bike. Can't wait for the Snow to melt. Hope the rest of the bikes will show up soon.

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    Anyone plan to build this up with a 180mm fork? Thoughts?

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    170 Lyric seems like the right amount of travel, but haven't spent much time on it yet. No plans to change out the fork.

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    Rocky Mountain Slayer!-slayer.jpg

    Bike is amazing, and it looks way better in person.
    Obviously it "Slayz" the descents but I will also have no issues climbing over 1000m on a ride as its very efficient for a big travel bike. Well done Rocky!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    Bike is amazing, and it looks way better in person.
    Obviously it "Slayz" the descents but I will also have no issues climbing over 1000m on a ride as its very efficient for a big travel bike. Well done Rocky!!!
    Nice! If you don't mind a couple questions:
    - How does this compare to the Hightower I think you have? i.e. I'm assuming it feels much bigger/more capable on the DH
    - Any thoughts on this vs a Dual crown such as the Maiden? (I've got a Hightower now, and I'm moving near a lift area again so looking for something like this or a full DH to ride park)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdemars View Post
    Nice! If you don't mind a couple questions:
    - How does this compare to the Hightower I think you have? i.e. I'm assuming it feels much bigger/more capable on the DH
    - Any thoughts on this vs a Dual crown such as the Maiden? (I've got a Hightower now, and I'm moving near a lift area again so looking for something like this or a full DH to ride park)
    We have a Maiden and a new Slayer in the fleet. Both are amazing bikes. The Maiden is so plush on the DH trails and the Slayer kills it both up and down. If you are primarily riding lift-assist or shuttle trails then the Maiden would be a good choice. If you are looking for a bike that can pedal up a hill then the Slayer is the only choice IMHO.

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    ^^^^ that about sums it up and regarding a Hightower/ Slayer comparison you really cant compare the 2, totally different travel between the 2...although I will say that the Slayer climbs pretty much just as well as the HighT on the N Shore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    ^^^^ that about sums it up and regarding a Hightower/ Slayer comparison you really cant compare the 2, totally different travel between the 2...although I will say that the Slayer climbs pretty much just as well as the HighT on the N Shore.
    If the Slayer climbs so well do you think you'll keep only the Slayer or is the HT still relevant for some of your needs? Do you use your HT as a 27.5+ or 29?

    I was thinking about changing my old Nomad (2007) for a Slayer but the geometry of my Nomad is much closer to what the HighT offers. On the other hand, the Slayer is much closer to my Nomad in terms of travel. I haven't tried any of those newer long low slack bikes yet.

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    I always have 2 bikes, My Hightower is for sale on Pink Bike (if anyone is interested) , my other bike is now a Yeti SB6

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanzaiRider View Post
    If the Slayer climbs so well do you think you'll keep only the Slayer or is the HT still relevant for some of your needs? Do you use your HT as a 27.5+ or 29?

    I was thinking about changing my old Nomad (2007) for a Slayer but the geometry of my Nomad is much closer to what the HighT offers. On the other hand, the Slayer is much closer to my Nomad in terms of travel. I haven't tried any of those newer long low slack bikes yet.
    HT is 27+ with Minions. I love it on the trails and I'm keeping it, but for bigger bike park jumps I'd rather "normal" tires and more travel. I think the HT is relevant to 95% of everything I'd pedal to. It's limit seems to be very large jumps and drops. After all it does only have 135mm rear with a monarch shock.

    I can't speak to the old Nomad, but I did have a v3 for a while. It felt like a light mini-DH bike to me: great at the parks and on steeps but too much on anything that required much pedaling. (YMMV some folks were fine riding the Nomad all day on long rides.) Though the Nomad was so much lighter and so capable I tended to prefer it over the actual DH bike at bike parks in CO. I've yet to ride the Slayer but I expect it to feel similar to the Nomad. Since I can have two rides, its a question of HT and Slayer or HT and a dual crown DH bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    I always have 2 bikes, My Hightower is for sale on Pink Bike (if anyone is interested) , my other bike is now a Yeti SB6
    is the sb6 your cross country bike haha

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    well gents frame arriving this week. building er up with eagle, 36, carbon wheels, mt7s, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    well gents frame arriving this week. building er up with eagle, 36, carbon wheels, mt7s, etc
    Very nice, I just dumped my XT 11-46 drive train for Eagle as well and finally got y Carbon Nobl's converted to boost. Some nice improvements that should also shed about a pound. I figure I will weigh in around 29 lbs. I'll confirm weight later. The weight only matters to me as I'm going to swap the Monarch with a Push ElevenSix once there ready (I just need to convert mine) and that will add a pound of weight.
    However , to be on a slayer with a coil and weigh in @ 30lbs is gonna be unreal!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    Very nice, I just dumped my XT 11-46 drive train for Eagle as well and finally got y Carbon Nobl's converted to boost. Some nice improvements that should also shed about a pound. I figure I will weigh in around 29 lbs. I'll confirm weight later. The weight only matters to me as I'm going to swap the Monarch with a Push ElevenSix once there ready (I just need to convert mine) and that will add a pound of weight.
    However , to be on a slayer with a coil and weigh in @ 30lbs is gonna be unreal!!!!
    Is Push doing metric sizing now? If so a Slayer with an ElevenSix sounds so sick!

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    Yes they are doing Metric and I'm told by Rocky that they are working on an 11/6 tune right now for the Slayer. I'll report back with an @ ETA once I know more.

    My changes (see above posts) did lower my overall weight to 29.1 lbs so I will be at 30.1 lbs with the 11/6. However I maybe able to get to 29.75 lb as I have a lighter WTB rocket (Ti) seat and Podium pedals on order which will lean me up a little more.

    No biggie though 30-30.5 lbs is A-ok with me if your running a coil out back.

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    Slayer vs sb6?!?!?! For Moab , trail riding, and occassionaly bike park... i have a carbon xc bike in my quiver

    any advice? WHos ridden both?

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    Im hoping that Fox will come out with metric DHX2's soon, I would really like to run a coil on the Slayer but an ElevenSix is just way too expensive for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    However , to be on a slayer with a coil and weigh in @ 30lbs is gonna be unreal!!!!
    Why not a Cane Creek DBcoil IL instead of the Elevensix, you would save some weight without compromising performance that much I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    Slayer vs sb6?!?!?! For Moab , trail riding, and occassionaly bike park... i have a carbon xc bike in my quiver

    any advice? WHos ridden both?
    See page 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradical View Post
    Very nice, I just dumped my XT 11-46 drive train for Eagle as well and finally got y Carbon Nobl's converted to boost. Some nice improvements that should also shed about a pound. I figure I will weigh in around 29 lbs. I'll confirm weight later. The weight only matters to me as I'm going to swap the Monarch with a Push ElevenSix once there ready (I just need to convert mine) and that will add a pound of weight.
    However , to be on a slayer with a coil and weigh in @ 30lbs is gonna be unreal!!!!
    Should of just bought a frame only haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanzaiRider View Post
    Why not a Cane Creek DBcoil IL instead of the Elevensix, you would save some weight without compromising performance that much I assume.
    Because I already own an 11/6

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    PB just posted another review today. Looks to be a long term one compared to the other posted earlier in this thread.
    Rocky Mountain Slayer 790 MSL - Review - Pinkbike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gvus2001 View Post
    I work at a shop that deals Rocky and I've been trying to get ahold of our Rocky dealer for a week or so now to ask him about when they are coming in (and about ordering one myself). Hopefully I can talk with him soon.
    Which shop do you work at?

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    Any word (from RMB) on stock? I read somewhere that if I didn't already order one by now I'm sorta SOL.

    Had planned on building a new bike in the second half of the season, maybe on time for the Enduro2 in Davos, as I'm still a bit indecisive on build. 790 and swap out minimal parts, or save the cash with a 770 and spend the difference on a DHX2 and Fast CO3 kit......?

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    Contact your local RMB Dealer. They will have the correct intel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binrat View Post
    PB just posted another review today. Looks to be a long term one compared to the other posted earlier in this thread.
    Rocky Mountain Slayer 790 MSL - Review - Pinkbike
    Yes great review. Finally a reviewer who took the time to test out the "steep" geometry and report correctly on it's climbing ability in this steepest position. Based on his comments the Slayer looks to be a killer of versatility, as an all mountain bike you run it most of the time in the steep position and change the setting to slack only for lift assist days...

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    Done

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    Ok - Pivot Firebrid, Slayer and new Tracer - who has ridden all 3? How do they stack?

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    Rocky Mountain Slayer!-slayer.jpgSome changes, my Tr33 Nobl rims (27mm ID) converted to boost and Sram XO Eagle.
    29.1 lbs. I think I need to ditch the chain stay protection and just add some fuzzy Velcro for sound dampening, the protector isn't doing it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyam3 View Post
    Ok - Pivot Firebrid, Slayer and new Tracer - who has ridden all 3? How do they stack?
    Well, PB already has a review of the new tracer: 2017 Intense Tracer - Review - Pinkbike

    While they don't do a direct comparison a close read should tell you a few things:
    The Tracer doesn't climb all that well - "What the Tracer doesn't do all that well is climb. Its rear suspension never settles into a spot where pedaling feels efficient without switching the Fox X2 damper into climb mode, and even then, it is not all that inspiring."

    The tracer has a heavy DH bias, it favors the DH plow rider rather than the poppy playful precise rider - "...the latest Tracer would be at home in any bike park, and by the same token, it isn't much of a trail bike. Descending trails that don't trace the fall line, however technical, can be a little boring."


    The Slayer seems to be rather different (primarily due to the ride-4 settings) - "What I expected was a capable but routine enduro race bike with more brawn than brains; what I got was a bike that's not just capable but also exceedingly versatile. Yes, there's a lot of suspension and geometry on tap, enough for any racer's needs, but the Slayer's effective geo adjustment and remarkably good pedaling manners make it far more than just another enduro bike."
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    29.1 lbs. I think I need to ditch the chain stay protection and just add some fuzzy Velcro for sound dampening, the protector isn't doing it for me.
    yeah that protector looks a little out of place haha

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    Nice build!

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    I took the Slayer for a proper ride recently between snow storms. I have to say I am very impressed. I had it in slack mode the whole ride and it definitely did not climb as easily as my Warden. It wasn't terrible but it took noticeably more effort to get up the hill. I expect it would climb much better in steep mode but haven't tried that yet. The bike was very confidence-inspiring on the downhills. So much fun charging steep lines and being in total control. What I was not expecting was how poppy and fun this bike is. It felt quite playful on the way down, even in slack mode . I think this could easily be a one-bike quiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skooks View Post
    I took the Slayer for a proper ride recently between snow storms. I have to say I am very impressed. I had it in slack mode the whole ride and it definitely did not climb as easily as my Warden. It wasn't terrible but it took noticeably more effort to get up the hill. I expect it would climb much better in steep mode but haven't tried that yet. The bike was very confidence-inspiring on the downhills. So much fun charging steep lines and being in total control. What I was not expecting was how poppy and fun this bike is. It felt quite playful on the way down, even in slack mode . I think this could easily be a one-bike quiver.
    May I ask you to write few words comparison to Warden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skooks View Post
    I took the Slayer for a proper ride recently between snow storms. I have to say I am very impressed. I had it in slack mode the whole ride and it definitely did not climb as easily as my Warden. It wasn't terrible but it took noticeably more effort to get up the hill. I expect it would climb much better in steep mode but haven't tried that yet. The bike was very confidence-inspiring on the downhills. So much fun charging steep lines and being in total control. What I was not expecting was how poppy and fun this bike is. It felt quite playful on the way down, even in slack mode . I think this could easily be a one-bike quiver.
    Will be very interesting to read you on the steep mode, also your comparison to the Warden that shares a very similar geometry with the Slayer. Why did you change you Warden for the Slayer. Thanks.

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    The Slayer belongs to my son and he kindly let me try it out. I ride a Warden and have no plans to get rid of it. It's the perfect bike for the type of riding I do. The Slayer is obviously a burlier bike than the Warden. You notice the slacker head tube and extra travel immediately. In slack mode I was able to charge straight down lines that I would have been picking my way down on the Warden. The Warden is also very fun on these trails but it requires a more deliberate line choice. The Slayer felt much more playful and poppy than I was expecting, similar to the warden in this respect. Climbing was much easier on the Warden compared to the Slayer in Slack mode. Will try to get out again once the snow melts and give steep mode a try.

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    So I just picked up my Slayer today. One dumb question, why is this random section of paint cut out on the chain stay? Anyone else have this on theirs?

    Other than that just from riding it around the house this bike is going to be awesome. Can't wait for this weekend to finally ride it.Rocky Mountain Slayer!-img_0105.jpgRocky Mountain Slayer!-img_0106.jpg

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    Looks like where a sticker has been removed? Manufacturing/standards/iso sticker or something like that?

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    It's not sticker residue. The paint is actually missing, like someone cut it out or was never applied at all.

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    The red looks better than I thought ... can you post more photos please ? Of whole bike . Thx !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    The red looks better than I thought ... can you post more photos please ? Of whole bike . Thx !!
    The red is definitely a lot better than I thought. It looks so much better in real life than in pictures. I'll post some tomorrow morning.

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    Not on our bike

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    Here it is in red. Sorry for the crappy photoRocky Mountain Slayer!-img_0111.jpg

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    RM Slayer analysis ....looks real good!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N98kRUJpDk

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    Looks like the perfect bike really!

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    cortilo... hows it riding??? are you stoked? Using it as a trail bike?

    also post more photos if you get a chance please. I am patiently waiting til april. would love to see more slayer porn

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    Rocky Mountain Slayer!-img_0138.jpgHands down the best bike out there

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    Rocky Mountain Slayer!-slayer-pr-killer.jpgI love this bike, I'm matching and or beating fast times set on my Yeti Sb6 , climbing 1000+ meters and this bike also screams Freeride so sending it is a must! I'm really getting along well the steepest setting. I prefer Fox , so I'm looking forward to an X2 for the rear.

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    ...I prefer Fox , so I'm looking forward to an X2 for the rear.
    Weren't you going to go with an 11.6 on there?
    Now that you've had a bit of time on it how does it compare to similar category frames (i.e. Nomad, Delirium)?
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    My Eleven Six won't be ready until late April or May so an X2 until then.

    I don't t like to answer comparative questions between bikes as everyone is different in what they like , how and where they ride.

    I will say that without a doubt the Slayer rides as Rocky and all the very positive reviews claim it should.
    The Ride 4 is an excellent feature as the characteristics change quite a bit between the 4 different settings.

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    11/6 won't be ready until late April/May.

    I don't like to offer comparisons between bikes as its so subjective and really depends on how the bike is set up.
    I will say that the Slayer doesn't disappoint and lives up the reviews.

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    Every time i come to this thread a small part of me dies inside because I just want mine so bad! Just need to sell my old DH bike and I can order mine up (no one wants to buy a 2013 26 inch wheeled DH bike, go figure).

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    Anybody know if i need an extra derailleur hanger to mount an XX1/X01 groupset. I have the 790 MSL frame. I know from my Altitude that i needed a seperate one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan0103 View Post
    Anybody know if i need an extra derailleur hanger to mount an XX1/X01 groupset. I have the 790 MSL frame. I know from my Altitude that i needed a seperate one.
    Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you need a different der hanger unless you broke/bent one? The hanger should be putting the rear der attachment point in the same location regardless of whether it's XX1 or XTR
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdemars View Post
    Doesn't make sense to me. Why would you need a different der hanger unless you broke/bent one? The hanger should be putting the rear der attachment point in the same location regardless of whether it's XX1 or XTR
    Shimano derailleurs have the capability to get ride of the link and mount direct to the hanger. but, of course, it is a different hanger...Rocky Mountain Slayer!-1330602823487-wmq10nnt8023-630-354.jpg
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    Yes, this was the solution on my bike as well. Get rid of the extra link and mount it directly.

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    This topic need to be alive

    Is there any deep review on the Web ?

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    Hi , my Slayer , I'm in love !

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    Gosh that yellow blue is a gorgeous bike!!!!

    I am learning to LOVE the RED which I should be picking up in 2-3 weeks and immediately going to crush a 2 week south west epic mtn bike trip !!

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    xixo lets have a ride report from you eh mate?

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    How do these go with a coil? Anyone tried yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    How do these go with a coil? Anyone tried yet?
    I dont think the metric coil shocks are available yet, however rear suspension wise when riding its very similar to a maiden with X2 coil shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xixo one View Post








    Hi , my Slayer , I'm in love !
    Looks great!


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    I demo'd the Slayer on Gooseberry Mesa in Hurricane, UT. It was AWESOME!! Big thanks to the demo guys from RM!

    The Slayer was super efficient on the many steep climbs (South Rim) and ate up all the chunk. Weight was a non-issue, even with the 2.5 DHF, and I felt really good at the end of my ride. I typically run Fox, but the RS Lyrik and Monarch+ Debonair worked really well. I wish it had a thread BB, but I figure I can get a BBInfinite adapter.

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    I got a chance to ride the Slayer in steep mode and I have to say I am impressed. It climbs technical trails exceptionally well, and with no more pedalling effort than my Warden. Still did just fine on the drops and downhills, almost too easy. I think it handles the gnar a bit better than the Warden even in steep mode. I did notice that it dragged a bit on fire roads (could be the wider tires), and it it felt a bit longer and less nimble than the Warden. All in all a great bike, but I still feel more at home on my Warden.

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    anyone weighed the frame w/shock?

    has anyone taken it out on an epic day yet?

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    Missed the boat by that much.... Local distro now out of large frames and completes

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    My review

    I'll go ahead and add my review since people seem to want them. I demoed one this weekend. Rocky Mountain came by with the demo van and I am looking for a bike to purchase in the next 6 to 8 weeks or so and I am the target market for the Slayer so naturally I had to try one out. I had read a handful of decent things about it but my impression of the Altitude was 'meh'. It did a lot of things really well but I didn't like the kinematics of the rear shock. Basically I came into the demo without very high expectations. I figured with a different configuration it would be different so I would give it a go. And I'm extremely glad I did.

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    What. A. Bike. It's got looks that kills and it rides like it too. My only other experience with a 165mm bike is the Devinci Spartan. Ascending, the Spartan doesn't even come close. A 165mm bike has no business climbing as well as it did. I was clearing technical steep sections that I struggled on with bikes that had less travel. Descending, it was a demon on wheels; so much fun. I found it to be pretty balanced as far as poppy vs. planted. If I wanted to boost the jumps it would or if wanted it to stay grounded I could shift my weight and absorb the little jumps and it would do that too. It's a solid contender for what I want and I may very well pick one up. The trails I was demoing at were pretty tame but I tried to push the bike as much as I was comfortable with. It's also the same trails I've demoed other bikes at as well so I think it offers a pretty decent comparison.

    Pivot is coming to my area in a few weeks and I intend to check out the firebird if they have one. If you guys would like I can do a small comparison between those two as well.

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    Looking forward to the comparison. Not sure how such a long travel bike climbs so well, must have a good anti squat. The standover seems a bit high on paper, did you notice it at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Looking forward to the comparison. Not sure how such a long travel bike climbs so well, must have a good anti squat. The standover seems a bit high on paper, did you notice it at all?
    Not really. I was a little concerned because I'm 5' 10" and change and they put me on a large. I figured it would have been way too big for me in regards to reach and stack as well compared to other bikes I've ridden but it wasn't something I had a problem with at all. That said, I didn't really pay attention too closely to the SOH. I think I may pay to demo the one the shop has on hand to take on some rowdier trails and let you know then. Probably the middle of May before that happens though.

    *Edit* It looks like I got my dates wrong. Pivot won't be around until the end of May. The local shop does have Intense Tracers I could take out but I don't know if they have the new generation yet.

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    RM said the medium frame is 5.5lbs which is light for an enduro frame. I dont know if thats with the shock or not.

    Has anyone modified the Di2 port to store stuff like a SWAT? Not sure Di2 is worth doing on a 1x drivetrain

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    I'm 5'7" and the medium is perfect. SOH isn't even an issue.

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    so I am torn between the Firebird and the Slayer. I sold my wreckoning and i am coming off an injury so i have a while but from what i understand Slayers are hard to come by. that said i am somewhat surprised the fork isn't boost but maybe that isn't necessary and i just wish it was possible to ride them both back to back.....anyhow need more impressions of the slayer.

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    This is very anecdotal ... but I've demoed both in Moab ; albeit 6 months apart . The slayer last fall , firebird last week . I'm going slayer and I'm happy and confident in that decision. They felt like they pedaled similiar , but the slayer climbed tech/chunk better , and I liked the geometry / fit / feel better ... and it seemed to hold its speed in nasty chunk better and not get hung up like the bird did on ahab etc . Granted suspension set up makes demos very unreliable ...

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    Rocky Mountain Slayer!

    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    so I am torn between the Firebird and the Slayer. I sold my wreckoning and i am coming off an injury so i have a while but from what i understand Slayers are hard to come by. that said i am somewhat surprised the fork isn't boost but maybe that isn't necessary and i just wish it was possible to ride them both back to back.....anyhow need more impressions of the slayer.
    I'm pretty sure the front hub & fork are boost.

    Stock seems to be low on Slayers. For large red my shop could only find the base model 730 and I ended up upgrading everything.

    As you know, Firebird and Slayer are pretty similar. I only had a chance to ride the former in a parking lot so could not tell anything other than a large fit me. Decided to go with the Slayer because my LBS is a Rocky Mtn dealer, and also I wanted to try something different after my Pivot Switchblade was stolen.

    I've only ridden my Slayer a few times but I love it so far. Felt great descending chunky Noble Canyon trail. In the steepest geometry setting it also felt surprisingly normal on XC trails and climbs and switchbacks -- like a good trail bike instead of a DH monster truck. Now I'm going to try out some of the slacker settings.








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    I'm going to put a 1x11 Di2 drivetrain on my Slayer. I don't know if it's worth it either, but I really, really like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Not sure Di2 is worth doing on a 1x drivetrain

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    Just picked up a pair of 730s a week ago. Red one for the wife and a yellow one for me. 3 rides in and initial thoughts are that they climb exceptionally well and descend like a raped ape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myarmisonfire View Post
    they climb exceptionally well and descend like a raped ape.
    Interesting simile - for reference, does a raped ape descend well? - seems like the raping could potentially inhibit descending ability?

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    Anyone else anxiously awaiting the vital Mtb review of the slayer... it's the only one left in reviewed in their list of 18.... my guess is because it's the overall winner ... picking mine up next week !!!

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    I received my large 770 about two weeks ago and got about a half dozen rides in before the snow came back to Bozeman. This bike is by far the best bike I've ever owned! I came off a 2013 Altitude 790 that I ran through the ringer. I've also been on Santa Cruz, Specialized, Ellsworth and Sinister bikes over the years. The Slayer climbs 99% as well as the Altitude on everything from smooth and mellow to steep and technical. It only gets the 1% knock because I'm used to the gear ratios on the 2x10 Altitude.
    On the downhill it's an absolute blast! For such a big bike it's very playful but just begs to go faster. The bike is incredibly stable, stiff and confidence inspiring.
    I can't wait to get this beast out on some big, technical, backcountry Montana rides but there's a lot of snow to melt off this spring.
    Oh, and I love that it has bearings. How I hated those Igus bushings on the Altitude!

    All of my riding has been in steep mode. I tried the slackest mode on the steepest, rockiest DH I could find right now (Prospect Shafts off the top of MT Helena) and the trail wasn't quite steep enough for the bike to not feel a bit like a plow. It ran through the trail just fine but I felt like I was pushing the front end around.

    Anyways, I'm looking forward to riding and hearing what other's have to say about this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    This is very anecdotal ... but I've demoed both in Moab ; albeit 6 months apart . The slayer last fall , firebird last week . I'm going slayer and I'm happy and confident in that decision. They felt like they pedaled similiar , but the slayer climbed tech/chunk better , and I liked the geometry / fit / feel better ... and it seemed to hold its speed in nasty chunk better and not get hung up like the bird did on ahab etc . Granted suspension set up makes demos very unreliable ...
    to me that sounds like the benefits of a horst link type of suspension, I think.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    Missed the boat by that much.... Local distro now out of large frames and completes
    Found one! Paid straight up! 790 frame, yellow, X2 shock. Should be here Tuesday!

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    Anyone else notice this bike has no downtube protection? Seems odd for a carbon bike? I have one on order and can't say it would be a deal breaker but it is definitely missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    Anyone else notice this bike has no downtube protection? Seems odd for a carbon bike? I have one on order and can't say it would be a deal breaker but it is definitely missing.
    Mine hasn't turned up yet, but I ordered an all mountain style xl frame skin thingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyno View Post
    Interesting simile - for reference, does a raped ape descend well? - seems like the raping could potentially inhibit descending ability?
    Well I may not be a primatologist but I would assume that a sexually assaulted monkey would descend very quickly from its tree and find a safer one to reside in.

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    ok based on all the pics there is definitely no protection on the downtime, weird as this is the first carbon bike i have noticed without one. does RM think it is not necessary on this bike? Looking at the website i see some models with protectors and others without so it is definitely a conscious decision to not use one.

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    ok slayer owners hit up push on some interest for an eleven six for it. last time i chatted with them they were hesitant on if they were even going to make one for it

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    Bummer , however Fox DHX2 should be available shortly

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    ok slayer owners hit up push on some interest for an eleven six for it. last time i chatted with them they were hesitant on if they were even going to make one for it
    I commented on one of their posts a while back about it... Wish they would!

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    So this is a thing now... Yieeew!

    First question! Did anyone else's X2 not come with a compression lever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cortolillo87 View Post
    So I just picked up my Slayer today. One dumb question, why is this random section of paint cut out on the chain stay? Anyone else have this on theirs?

    Other than that just from riding it around the house this bike is going to be awesome. Can't wait for this weekend to finally ride it.Click image for larger version. 

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    Mine has similar to this, but on the inside of the chain stay between the post mount towers. The numbers are legible. Can only assume something for manufacturing line controls I guess??

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    Kyl3 I was under the impression the shock did not come with a climb switch based on pics and one of the reviews I read.

    Also read 2018 x2 shocks have a new tune can you check to see if it registers as a 2018 on the fox site? I am thinking it will because for 2017 they didn't make metric shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    I commented on one of their posts a while back about it... Wish they would!
    coming off 2 11-6s on my evils i am interested to try a fox coil if i decide to go that route. i know the 11 6 is amazing but i always wondered if it was worth the extra 700 or so as i think any coil would make the bike better and i never used the switch always kept it wide open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    Kyl3 I was under the impression the shock did not come with a climb switch based on pics and one of the reviews I read.

    Also read 2018 x2 shocks have a new tune can you check to see if it registers as a 2018 on the fox site? I am thinking it will because for 2017 they didn't make metric shocks.
    I will check for you..

    The frame is definitely a '17 model, they haven't started manufacturing any 18 slayers yet according to our distro. Concentrating on the new models being released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    I will check for you..

    The frame is definitely a '17 model, they haven't started manufacturing any 18 slayers yet according to our distro. Concentrating on the new models being released.
    I was only referring to the shock but I found out fox sells metric OEM and has been since 17- fox also told me the tune is very minimal and it is not really noticeable.

    Also your bike does seem to have a protector on the downtube right? That is good because they are definitely not there in the website pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    I was only referring to the shock but I found out fox sells metric OEM and has been since 17- fox also told me the tune is very minimal and it is not really noticeable.

    Also your bike does seem to have a protector on the downtube right? That is good because they are definitely not there in the website pics.
    Yep has a rubberised protector on the downtube!

    Wish the shock had the compression lever ffs.. Will have to buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    Yep has a rubberised protector on the downtube!

    Wish the shock had the compression lever ffs.. Will have to buy one.
    For what it is worth and maybe I am in the minority but I never use the switches when climbing. I know this bike has the anti squat built and it just makes you stronger!!

    Though can you just buy a switch or do you need to get a whole new shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    For what it is worth and maybe I am in the minority but I never use the switches when climbing. I know this bike has the anti squat built and it just makes you stronger!!

    Though can you just buy a switch or do you need to get a whole new shock?
    From Dirt Rag first ride review:

    "As for the climb switch, Rocky thinks there is enough anti-squat built into the suspension to negate the need for more low-speed damping. For those riders that might want it anyway, Fox does offer a 2-position switch that can be retrofitted to their X2 without losing any adjustment ability to the shock for $125(install requires bleeding the shock, so factor a $30 labor charge into the mix), but it sounds like Rocky Mountain will continue to spec the Slayer without this switch."

    http://dirtragmag.com/first-ride-201...layer-790-msl/

    So far I'm happy with the performance of my Rock Shox Super Deluxe RC3 which does have a 3-position lever.

    After trying a slacker setting I'm back to the steepest Ride-4 setting -- significantly easier to keep front wheel tracking straight on steep climbs.




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    Might start slapping parts on her today 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    Might start slapping parts on her today 😎
    What r u waiting for?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    Kyl3 I was under the impression the shock did not come with a climb switch based on pics and one of the reviews I read.

    Also read 2018 x2 shocks have a new tune can you check to see if it registers as a 2018 on the fox site? I am thinking it will because for 2017 they didn't make metric shocks.
    The two numbers engraved under the base of the air can do absolutely nothing on the fox shox serial number lookup unfortunately...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    The two numbers engraved under the base of the air can do absolutely nothing on the fox shox serial number lookup unfortunately...
    Weird when I have put the 4 digit code into the fox help center previously it gave me all of the part info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    You need the 4 digit code and you go to the help center at ridefox.com that will give you all he specifics about the shock, you can also use the serial number
    Cheers for that! Here you go!

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    Ive heard nothing but good things. What are some of the shortcomings of the Slayer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Ive heard nothing but good things. What are some of the shortcomings of the Slayer?

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    finally got mine... first ride in moab yesterday. stoked. 750 version. the bike flat rips... the wheels feel a bit heavy and slow, but I'm used to carbon xc wheels.. ill probably upgrade the wheels asap and save these stock ones for backup... oh and the turbine dropper is acting up contntly, but hopefully it settles in a few days... anyone have experience with the turbine?? does it start working better after it settles in?? seems lke I'm having to burp the lines all the time, and its sliding around and not holding all the time... annoying...

    so stoked on the slayer and the matte red is flat our gorgeous...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    finally got mine... first ride in moab yesterday. stoked. 750 version. the bike flat rips... the wheels feel a bit heavy and slow, but I'm used to carbon xc wheels.. ill probably upgrade the wheels asap and save these stock ones for backup... oh and the turbine dropper is acting up contntly, but hopefully it settles in a few days... anyone have experience with the turbine?? does it start working better after it settles in?? seems lke I'm having to burp the lines all the time, and its sliding around and not holding all the time... annoying...

    so stoked on the slayer and the matte red is flat our gorgeous...
    negatives....sadly whenever i make a decision on something like a bike i can't ride i go back and read the reviews and seem to only see the negatives! I made the decision to go with the slayer over the firebird and now when i go back i kinda feel there are more issues reported with the slayer in the reviews but of course i am injured, sitting around and reading too much!

    i do have to wonder if with the new 29" DH bike are we making an error buying a 275 bike? I sold my wrekconing for this bike and i liked it a lot but unless i could ride a 275 and 29 inch model of the same bike i could never positively say the benefit it is the wheel as i think it is more overall design than just wheel. i think if i was just our riding my bike i wouldn't worry about this crap.

    also brings me to a point, some manufacturer forums have a lot more people posting than others, RM seems to be on the lower side only because rather than argue on the internet maybe people who buy RMs are our riding!!

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    How do u compare the wreckoning to the slayer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    How do u compare the wreckoning to the slayer?

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    i have not ridden the slayer, when i got hurt i sold my wreckoning and my switchblade, have not ridden since. i decided to sell my bikes and get 2 new ones to come back to. so that said i am hoping it slays the wreckoning, though the wreckoning is an awesome bike so that won't be easy.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    negatives....sadly whenever i make a decision on something like a bike i can't ride i go back and read the reviews and seem to only see the negatives! I made the decision to go with the slayer over the firebird and now when i go back i kinda feel there are more issues reported with the slayer in the reviews but of course i am injured, sitting around and reading too much!

    i do have to wonder if with the new 29" DH bike are we making an error buying a 275 bike? I sold my wrekconing for this bike and i liked it a lot but unless i could ride a 275 and 29 inch model of the same bike i could never positively say the benefit it is the wheel as i think it is more overall design than just wheel. i think if i was just our riding my bike i wouldn't worry about this crap.

    also brings me to a point, some manufacturer forums have a lot more people posting than others, RM seems to be on the lower side only because rather than argue on the internet maybe people who buy RMs are our riding!!
    i have ridden quite a few of both and honestly it depends on the terrain your riding. in the desert the 29 is a significant advantage. up here in the pnw i actually prefer the smaller wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    i have ridden quite a few of both and honestly it depends on the terrain your riding. in the desert the 29 is a significant advantage. up here in the pnw i actually prefer the smaller wheels
    i rode my wrecking in phx, moab, and all over the pnw. in the phx desert i think the smaller wheels would have been better as south mountain is so tight and rocky. in mood probably 29, for the pnw i think it is a toss up. though again so hard to tell as i came off an insurgent and the wreckoning is such a different bike. anyhow the slayer just ticks all the boxes for me anyway, for some reason i like frames better with vertical shocks and add to it the horst link. i am excited to go back to a bike that won't have brake jack.

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    What's brake Jack

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    I am not an engineer but as I understand it some suspension designs move the brake calipers so when you brake the suspension is affected, the slayer type of suspension doesn't do that. I know I can't make blanket sta for suspension types cuz they are all different but from the analysis on the slayer the brake do not affect the suspension whereas my nomad evils and pivot were all affected to some degree.

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    I gotcha

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    Has anyone demoed the slayer and compared it to the 2017 specialized enduro

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    IMO the slayer blows the firebird outta the water ... the thing rips up and down ... and the wheels on the 750 are totally sufficient with proper tire pressures . I'm in love and think it's the best enduro bike on the market

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratefulone View Post
    IMO the slayer blows the firebird outta the water ... the thing rips up and down ... and the wheels on the 750 are totally sufficient with proper tire pressures . I'm in love and think it's the best enduro bike on the market
    great review, very concise!!! Did you get to spend a lot of time on the Firebird? I simply want to try something new and the Slayer checks all the boxes on paper just gotta wait to ride till my injury heals.....

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    Just to give you an idea of the versatility of this bike, my 17-year old son rode his 750 in 3 races over 5 days. Race 1 was high-school XC and he came in 11th overall. Race 2 was a local north shore enduro race and he came in 1st in his category and 25th overall 5th overall on the longest stage) in a very large, competitive field. Race 3 was a full-on DH race where he came in 12th racing against some fast guys on dual-crown DH rigs.
    Super stoked on the Slayer!

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    That's impressive. Jesse Melamed is on the altitude for the EWS. Maybe due to the lost of lower speed sensitivity due to the high anti squat?
    Looks like a good year for RM
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyl3 View Post
    Might start slapping parts on her today 😎
    Built yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    Built yet?
    It has a dropper post and headset cups fitted... Beer busy with night shift.. Yesterday I started swapping the rear hub out for 148x.. Far out I hate building wheels!

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    Did some of you have to drop a size down due to the longer reach?

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    At first I was concerned about the longer reach, as compared to my Altitude. I thought the large 2013 Altitude fit me well (with stock stem/handlebars). However, it was an unfounded concern. The reach on the large Slayer is very comfortable and the bike feels well balanced in regard to cockpit.

    For what it's worth, I'm 6 feet tall with a 6'2" wingspan.

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    Slowly but surely

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood72 View Post
    great review, very concise!!! Did you get to spend a lot of time on the Firebird? I simply want to try something new and the Slayer checks all the boxes on paper just gotta wait to ride till my injury heals.....
    I owned the firebird and now own the slayer. I've ridden both quite a bit and the slayer does not blow the firebird out of the water lol. They are both excellent choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    I owned the firebird and now own the slayer. I've ridden both quite a bit and the slayer does not blow the firebird out of the water lol. They are both excellent choices
    So what does it blow it out of?

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    Its a tough choice between the altitude and slayer. If the altitude does come with the live valve, it might tip it over towards that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Its a tough choice between the altitude and slayer. If the altitude does come with the live valve, it might tip it over towards that.

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    What bikes did u have and or what are you coming off of? If you like smaller bikes that is the way to go I like a bigger bike travel and slacker bike and maybe my mentality is wrong but that is just me and maybe I am over biked but I like it that way.

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    I had the Following then now im on a mojo 3. Seem to be going towards more travel but it has to pedal well without having to mess with switches. Im in between sizes and am leaning towards a small with a shorter seat tube for a 150mm dropper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    I had the Following then now im on a mojo 3. Seem to be going towards more travel but it has to pedal well without having to mess with switches. Im in between sizes and am leaning towards a small with a shorter seat tube for a 150mm dropper.

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    to me, being no expert, logic says you may not be happy with the bigger bike and probably should stick with the altitude as it is more in line with those 2.

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    Review is up on Vital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myarmisonfire View Post
    Review is up on Vital.
    Wow lots of negativity.....I am already committed but I hate reading crap like that. Though I hated my nomad 3 and the world loves them

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    hello, nice looking bike man! can you please let us know more info on the build and overall weight?

    Did you notice any problem with the paint on the chainstay like others?

    Thanks

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    Its pretty clear the vital review places the slayer's traits closer to the dh type of riding. The steep SA and high anti squat makes it pedal friendly but it can only do so much. The drawback would be more pedal feedback and less small bump sensitivity at lower speeds. The review seems to be inline with other reviews in that it lets you pedal to the top without drama and crushes downhill gnar in a straightline. Sounds like fun. The climbing score is a bit low, doesnt seem to be inline with other reviews. Others ive read didnt like climbing in the slack setting but really liked it in the steepest setting. I wonder if the score is reflective of their experience in the slack setting.

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