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    2019 Ritchey Ultra

    Well after waiting over four months my Ritchey Ultra frame can late afternoon just before the New Year.
    But with no headset I had to wait until Friday afternoon (last delivery of the day).
    I build her up after work Saturday and got to go riding today!
    I love the feel of the bike being alive

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    Stunning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    Stunning!
    Thanks

    At last I'm enjoying riding again.

    I was so mislead going with a 3x Jones before hand.

    Well I can say I tried.

    Tom Ritchey's Ultra is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    Thanks

    At last I'm enjoying riding again.

    I was so mislead going with a 3x Jones before hand.

    Well I can say I tried.

    Tom Ritchey's Ultra is great

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    Mislead? On three different Jones Bikes? How so?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    Mislead? On three different Jones Bikes? How so?...
    I liked all of Jeff Jones ideas about bike design and bike fit.
    But my first Jones LWB 24" was too big! (The smallest 29+ available at the time) and forks too stuff for hardcore mountain biking.
    My second was just too high in the top tube but the unicrown forks were much better.
    This is the one I sadly sold and is no longer available.
    My third Jones LWB Spaceframe 23" 29+ is the right size but the forks are too stuff and 29+ tyres are too heavy and slow riding.
    I have found that Jones Loop H-Bars have too much bent backwards! 45 is not comfortable.
    For me my Ritchey Ultra is the best fit and my Fox forks make hardcore mountain biking so much more comfortable to ride day after day.
    On my Ritchey I'm running with Thomson Titanium 12 handlebars that are just right for comfort day after day.
    I think that a Jones bike is designed for escentric riders.
    A Ritchey is is designed for everyone else.

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    Hmm interesting, well I'm sorry to hear that the Jones and 29+ didn't work out for you, I love 29+ myself but have no experience of a Jones Bike other than owning a pair of the H-Bars once over.

    I use the Thomson Ti bars on my Waltworks, they are perfect.

    Enjoy the bike, it is a beauty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    Hmm interesting, well I'm sorry to hear that the Jones and 29+ didn't work out for you, I love 29+ myself but have no experience of a Jones Bike other than owning a pair of the H-Bars once over.

    I use the Thomson Ti bars on my Waltworks, they are perfect.

    Enjoy the bike, it is a beauty!
    Thanks happy riding

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    Great looking bike! Curious - would 29x2.6 (actual) fit in the back? What rim/tire combo do you run on yours? Any chance you can post clearance in the rear and/or measure widest point at the chainstays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongol777 View Post
    Great looking bike! Curious - would 29x2.6 (actual) fit in the back? What rim/tire combo do you run on yours? Any chance you can post clearance in the rear and/or measure widest point at the chainstays?
    I'll have a look once I'm home.
    But I think that Ritchey have the tyre size right with a 650b up to 2.8".
    Theirs room for 29" x 2.4" but I think that's it.
    I'm running Specialized Fast Trak 2.3" with 30mm inside width Rim.
    And there's good room for mud.


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    Thank you - I would really appreciate it. I am looking for new frame and Ultra has my attention, gorgeous bike! I was planning to use Chromag Magna 40 rims which are ~43mm inside but also have Spank Oozy 395+ which are 35mm inside. Ideal tire clearance for me is 29x2.6-2.7 actual when measuring casing, not knob to knob. But given Ultra's tubing and feel - I think I can live with 29x2.6 knob to knob at the back

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    Also - what size Ritchey did you get and how tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongol777 View Post
    Also - what size Ritchey did you get and how tall are you?
    I have an Ultra built as a 29er with Stans Flow MK3 rims (i29) and a 2.4" WTB Trailboss in the rear. I'd think 2.6" would be real tight, but may *just* fit. I can't say that I've wanted more volume, however.

    I'm riding an XL. I'm 6'1" with a long inseam ~93cm, so HT length really matters for me. Standover is fine. Running a 50mm stem.

    Oh, and if by chance you are running Hope Tech 3 X2 brake in the rear, you can't run a 180 rotor, as the caliper mounted on the adapter hits the seat stay before it can be centered over the rotor. All good with 160 rotor. Ritchey says no problem to run 180 rotor in rear with SRAM or Shimano.

    Hope that helps.

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    Out night riding as it's winter and time to ride at night.
    Starting to train for next year's bikepacking event in New Zealand called Tour Aotearoa.
    From the very top to the bottom of NZ.
    I'm looking forward to my more adventures.

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    Looking for both, casual and professional, thoughts on a 130mm, 29er Ultra build.
    Let me know.

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    Has anyone here ridden both a Ritchey Ultra and a Surly Karate Monkey? I'm wondering how big a difference The Ritchey Logic tubing makes vs. Surly's Natch tubing in rear end comfort, weight and lively feel. I get the impression that the Ritchey uses a better grade of steel, but I haven't seen much written about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    I'll have a look once I'm home.
    But I think that Ritchey have the tyre size right with a 650b up to 2.8".
    Theirs room for 29" x 2.4" but I think that's it.
    I'm running Specialized Fast Trak 2.3" with 30mm inside width Rim.
    And there's good room for mud.


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    Peter

    Saw your post on this and I am glad I did, as I am currently considering between a Jones and a Ritchey Ultra.

    I am tending to feel the Ultra might give a more forgiving general xc/fire road do it all ride than the Jones spaceframe. I would probably set the Ultra up with a carbon rigid fork.

    Any chance you could confirm the size of your Ultra and the standover height measured at the mid point of the top tube.

    There is a measurement on the Ritchey site but it doesnt say what wheel/tyre size it is based on. I am 5ft71/2 so right in between a small and a medium frame size.

    Trying to work out which Size Ultra to go with and will have to do it blind as no one has stock or demo bikes in the UK.

    Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the comfort / ride quality of the Ultra compared to your old Jones spaceframe.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlinman View Post
    Peter

    Saw your post on this and I am glad I did, as I am currently considering between a Jones and a Ritchey Ultra.

    I am tending to feel the Ultra might give a more forgiving general xc/fire road do it all ride than the Jones spaceframe. I would probably set the Ultra up with a carbon rigid fork.

    Any chance you could confirm the size of your Ultra and the standover height measured at the mid point of the top tube.

    There is a measurement on the Ritchey site but it doesnt say what wheel/tyre size it is based on. I am 5ft71/2 so right in between a small and a medium frame size.

    Trying to work out which Size Ultra to go with and will have to do it blind as no one has stock or demo bikes in the UK.

    Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the comfort / ride quality of the Ultra compared to your old Jones spaceframe.

    Cheers

    John
    Hi John

    So my Jones LWB Spaceframe is the 23" which is called a Small.

    My Ritchey is a medium size, which I ordered off the bike size specs when it ordered my one before the frameset was released to the public.

    If I was going to use it for just Mountain Biking I would go with a large because I'm long in the torso and have short legs for my Height.

    Maybe you should go and get a bike fit from "Bicycle" in London

    All my bikes are ordered blind, but I have had one of the top bike fitters in OZ set me up and I work with one of the best in NZ.

    I love my Ritchey and used it this year in Tour Aotearoa.

    I'll use my Jones LWB Spaceframe for the short C2C next year because I need to carry more food as shops are much less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    Hi John

    So my Jones LWB Spaceframe is the 23" which is called a Small.

    My Ritchey is a medium size, which I ordered off the bike size specs when it ordered my one before the frameset was released to the public.

    If I was going to use it for just Mountain Biking I would go with a large because I'm long in the torso and have short legs for my Height.

    Maybe you should go and get a bike fit from "Bicycle" in London

    All my bikes are ordered blind, but I have had one of the top bike fitters in OZ set me up and I work with one of the best in NZ.

    I love my Ritchey and used it this year in Tour Aotearoa.

    I'll use my Jones LWB Spaceframe for the short C2C next year because I need to carry more food as shops are much less.

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    Thanks for the info, I agree bike fits can be very useful.

    For me, I have been riding more years than I care to remember and feel I have the fit dialed in for me in terms of reach, ETT etc.

    My existing Pipedream Skookum 853 29er in small is set up rigid with a 485 a2c corrected fork and the fit and ride are great apart from the standover. It has a standover of 31 which is very tight for my 31 inside leg, I would prefer it to be around 29.

    Hence the reason I was interested in the standover measurement on your Ultra with whatever wheel/tyre combo you are running. The quoted standover for the Ultra in small looks like it would be good but without knowing what wheel/tyre was used for that dimension, its a bit meaningless.

    The quoted reach and ETT on the small geometry looks fine for me, that was the appeal of the Ultra, its not gone super slack and crazy long as many others have. I have had Cotics in the past which were great but on their current longshot geometrys I would have to laydown on the bike! The Ultra looks like it still strikes a happy medium.

    I agree bike fitting is very essential but even the best bike fit cant correct lack of standover clearance, your legs are either long enough for a given frame/wheel combo or not. I guess the reason so many smaller people struggle to find a suitable 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlinman View Post
    Thanks for the info, I agree bike fits can be very useful.

    For me, I have been riding more years than I care to remember and feel I have the fit dialed in for me in terms of reach, ETT etc.

    My existing Pipedream Skookum 853 29er in small is set up rigid with a 485 a2c corrected fork and the fit and ride are great apart from the standover. It has a standover of 31 which is very tight for my 31 inside leg, I would prefer it to be around 29.

    Hence the reason I was interested in the standover measurement on your Ultra with whatever wheel/tyre combo you are running. The quoted standover for the Ultra in small looks like it would be good but without knowing what wheel/tyre was used for that dimension, its a bit meaningless.

    The quoted reach and ETT on the small geometry looks fine for me, that was the appeal of the Ultra, its not gone super slack and crazy long as many others have. I have had Cotics in the past which were great but on their current longshot geometrys I would have to laydown on the bike! The Ultra looks like it still strikes a happy medium.

    I agree bike fitting is very essential but even the best bike fit cant correct lack of standover clearance, your legs are either long enough for a given frame/wheel combo or not. I guess the reason so many smaller people struggle to find a suitable 29er.
    Hi again
    So just home from a few days away.
    I measured my Richey in the old fashion measurements
    9" in front of my seat post the stand over is 31".
    That's a Medium sized with 29" 2.3" tyre's.
    I hope this helps you.
    Good night it's Saturday in the morning.
    Happy riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZPeterG View Post
    Hi again
    So just home from a few days away.
    I measured my Richey in the old fashion measurements
    9" in front of my seat post the stand over is 31".
    That's a Medium sized with 29" 2.3" tyre's.
    I hope this helps you.
    Good night it's Saturday in the morning.
    Happy riding.

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    Thanks Peter, really helpful information.

    Have a good weekend.

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