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    What does "epic" mean for you?

    What's the standard for you? On a scale between a nice few hours of decent singletrack, and weekend bloodbath of mud and dehydration with a bike that no longer functions.

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    5 hours or 30 miles, terrain dependent, whichever is longer.

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    my last epic was at least 8 hours but alas it was also 1999 loon lake to tahoe and back on the rubicon trail 2 kids after that i haven't even come close to that since then

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    I would guess for me its about 20-30 miles on hilly tough terrain, but I don't really pay attention to distance so I just call it epic when my legs don't move so well.
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    The same thing "extreme" did 5 years ago.
    Your fear of looking stupid is holding you back.

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    Epic = something unexpected happened to evolve the ride in an unlikely way. Rarely time dependent, although time is often an important secondary component.

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    5 hrs moving time

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    i agree with mikesee....

    when i push through my current boundaries into another level of pain and/or suffering or experience something totally killer, that is epic. like last year epic for me was riding a super tough trail for the first time and came down a hill to see an AMAZING view of a lake. made the pain in my legs go away this year going on a 25 miler with 2000+ feet of climbing (which is a TON for michigan ) was epic to me, it was brutal on the rigid ss but worth it!

    long story short, epic is different for everyone but still great for everyone
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    An adventure, filled with the most extreme of events. Creation, destruction, amazing discoveries, unimagined revelations that transcend life and death and bring about a deep fundamental philosophical change in the known world, which is written about worldwide and whose characters are revered as heroes, and which, as the millenia roll by, civilizations will continue to read about with awe and wonder.

    Or, if you're a kid, it means "cool", as the days of true epics are long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Epic = something unexpected happened to evolve the ride in an unlikely way. Rarely time dependent, although time is often an important secondary component.
    ^Agreed. If when telling the story of the ride at a later date, you or someone involved says"it was epic"- then it qualifies, regardless of time spent.
    More epicness is achieved when someone not even there comments on the ride's level of epicatude

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotBlack
    An adventure, filled with the most extreme of events. Creation, destruction, amazing discoveries, unimagined revelations that transcend life and death and bring about a deep fundamental philosophical change in the known world, which is written about worldwide and whose characters are revered as heroes, and which, as the millenia roll by, civilizations will continue to read about with awe and wonder.

    Or, if you're a kid, it means "cool", as the days of true epics are long gone.
    LOL that was pretty good.

    I'm going to say I have to agree with all of you. Especially on the pain part

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotBlack
    An adventure, filled with the most extreme of events. Creation, destruction, amazing discoveries, unimagined revelations that transcend life and death and bring about a deep fundamental philosophical change in the known world, which is written about worldwide and whose characters are revered as heroes, and which, as the millenia roll by, civilizations will continue to read about with awe and wonder.

    Or, if you're a kid, it means "cool", as the days of true epics are long gone.
    Actually, I feel that way every time I go to the mall, as I only go about once every three years.

    Creation: Of billions of tons of useless crap
    Destruction: Of animal habitat, my fave is "Pheasant's Run Mall" in Chico, CA (well, there *used* to be pheasants).
    Amazing discoveries: Woman at a kiosk abducts me and shows me how I can get a high gloss shine on a fingernail without toxic polish. For just $80...."Ok....$20."
    Unimagined Revelations: I pass, and find the same buffing pad for $2 at Walmart.
    Deep Philosphical Changes: It might not be so bad after all to sell everything and live under a bridge.
    Characters revered as heros: The security cop (old guy with a fascinating life story) with whom I had a great conversation at 2 am, while photographing the spring tree blossoms by moonlight.
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    to me epic means more than half a day of trails , roads, hike , rivercrossings, my last epic was 2 yrs ago here in the phil. ! 16 hrs, calorie depleting, lung busting trip to sta inez falls, we chose a route not accesible to cars

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    epic for me means more of an adventure than a ride. i don't think that i would call anything under 3 hrs epic though, and only then if it was truly brutal or difficult. i think 6 hrs + i would be more likely to call something epic. there would probably have to be unknowns thrown in there, unnexpected challenges overcome. elevated danger levels would definitely increase the likelihood of me calling a ride epic.

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    Not so much meeting certain technical criteria for me. More like the best description, only given to certain days that stand out above others. Something you refer back to, something you remember, and something that sticks with you. It could be a whole ride, a climb, a burrito, a crash. . .

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    Epic mileage to me would have to be 30 miles right now because the most I've ever traveled is 25. Once I hit 30 then epic will probably be 40.

    Adventure wise, I guess I've only had 1 epic. That was when I lost my water bottle at the start of my run and went 17 more miles without any water. Unfortunately I gave up before I reached my destination because I felt too dehydrated...

    I need more epics

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    Epic means you spend too much time worrying about what other people might think about your riding and not enough time actually riding.
    Nobody cares what kind of bike you ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiles87
    What's the standard for you? On a scale between a nice few hours of decent singletrack, and weekend bloodbath of mud and dehydration with a bike that no longer functions.
    For me, it's any ride that ends up in the top 10% as a memorable ride because I pushed
    myself - or was pushed by a riding partner - to go farther than all the rides that didn't make it
    to the top 10%, while at the same time enjoying the vistas and challenges presented.
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    epic for me equates to a map, compass, an unfamiliar trail and not knowing what's involved bar a vague guess at what the terrain will be like after i've studied it from OS maps and the new tools in my armoury: a combination of mapmyride, satellite imagery and google earth. basically the adventure you get from exploring, distance doesn't really come into imo. generally i'm out all day on these. got to love the countryside access laws we have.

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    I've ridden a few 'Epic's.

    Nowadays, I'm feeling more a 'Rush' of adrenaline.

    FW

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    Quote Originally Posted by frejwilk
    I've ridden a few 'Epic's.

    Nowadays, I'm feeling more a 'Rush' of adrenaline.

    FW



    Epic: a trip were something goes wrong that could have rather dire consequences, but where in the end everything ends up (in retrospect) just fine.

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    long hard ride that takes me to a new place, or has amazing scenery, meet some one cool, or do something extraordinary.
    "Get a bicycle.You will not regret it if you live." Mark Twain

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    It's like porn to the senate committee; "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it."

    Examples: Spending the night out there unexpectedly with no tent, just a fire and the bike and whomever you rode out there with. Collisions with wildlife that outweigh you. Retrieving a bike from a tree after a crash. Wondering where they will land the helicopter. Entering a store/bar and asking "Where am I'? Starting off with 27 gears and doing the last 30 miles with 1. Someone says, "Its OK, I left some Powerbars in a small cave somewhere near here a few years ago".
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    My last "epic".

    Summary Data
    Total Time (h:m:s) 10:35:00 13:46 pace
    Moving Time (h:m:s) 7:03:24 9:11 pace
    Distance (mi ) 46.08
    Moving Speed (mph) 6.5 avg. 38.3 max.
    Elevation Gain (ft) +10,313 / -10,301
    Temperature (F) 66.5F avg. 73.4F high
    Wind Speed ( mph) SSE 4.1 avg. SSE 10.4 max.

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    Epic = something unexpected happened to evolve the ride in an unlikely way. Rarely time dependent, although time is often an important secondary component.

    Spending several hours on The Old Passion (circa '97) chat board reading "certain people" response's, that turned into a mega-flame-war, discussing your simple tire question. And yes - I learned a lot: I run a big front tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poff
    My last "epic".

    Summary Data
    Total Time (h:m:s) 10:35:00 13:46 pace
    Moving Time (h:m:s) 7:03:24 9:11 pace
    Distance (mi ) 46.08
    Moving Speed (mph) 6.5 avg. 38.3 max.
    Elevation Gain (ft) +10,313 / -10,301
    Temperature (F) 66.5F avg. 73.4F high
    Wind Speed ( mph) SSE 4.1 avg. SSE 10.4 max.

    Dude........ That's intense.

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    Epic is when my riding partner Dan calls and says he has a new 5 hr ride plotted out and we need to do it. I know it will end up really being another 9 hour epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poff
    My last "epic".

    Summary Data
    Total Time (h:m:s) 10:35:00 13:46 pace
    Moving Time (h:m:s) 7:03:24 9:11 pace
    Distance (mi ) 46.08
    Moving Speed (mph) 6.5 avg. 38.3 max.
    Elevation Gain (ft) +10,313 / -10,301
    Temperature (F) 66.5F avg. 73.4F high
    Wind Speed ( mph) SSE 4.1 avg. SSE 10.4 max.
    I was there. It WAS epic.
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    Good thread..
    Different circles have different takes on this one,
    In the climbing world, having an epic means that the $hit hit the fan, much suffering was endured, death was a possible outcome, and ultimatly a harrowing tale was born.

    In cycling it seems to be more of a happy occasion, the **** may still have hit the fan but it is not necessary, its more of an untangable high, you know you're on an epic ride when you're on it.

    For me it usually has these elements - remoteness, bad weather, limited food & shelter & clothing... its basically adventure, the unplanned, but with a twist that something went wrong somewhere...

    or its this:

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    Thought "Epic" was a song by Faith No More.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davis
    It's like porn to the senate committee; "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it."

    Examples: Spending the night out there unexpectedly with no tent, just a fire and the bike and whomever you rode out there with. Collisions with wildlife that outweigh you. Retrieving a bike from a tree after a crash. Wondering where they will land the helicopter. Entering a store/bar and asking "Where am I'? Starting off with 27 gears and doing the last 30 miles with 1. Someone says, "Its OK, I left some Powerbars in a small cave somewhere near here a few years ago".
    Thank you.

    I have news, my brothers.

    I have just concluded reading Ovid, by Virgil, and can now say with total certainty that a 30 mile bike ride does not qualify as "Epic". Ever.

    Hells the no.

    Not a chance.

    Over an out.

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