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    So I found out who made cadillac bikes..

    It's KHS... I s'pose most of you already knew this, but I just went to the KHS site, and noticed myself.. A few pictures in case you're bored..

    Cadillac AM2.7


    KHS AM2000


    Caddy road


    KHS road




    Ok, back to work..

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    incidentally, KHS doesn't make those bikes, either. They simply brand them. There are companies in Asia that have "off-the-shelf" designs and bike companies go and meet them in showrooms or bike shows overseas and then makes deals to get their labels put on their designs. Some companies will even have the bikes tweaked for their specs. The KHS bikes are used all over the world under dozens of brand names in the same manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    incidentally, KHS doesn't make those bikes, either. They simply brand them. There are companies in Asia that have "off-the-shelf" designs and bike companies go and meet them in showrooms or bike shows overseas and then makes deals to get their labels put on their designs. Some companies will even have the bikes tweaked for their specs. The KHS bikes are used all over the world under dozens of brand names in the same manner.

    That in itself is not all that uncommon amongst bike companies anyway - Fuji operates in a similar way, and there are plenty more that i can't think of off the top of my head.

    i sure hate have to fart while riding the fixed gear...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabin Fever
    That in itself is not all that uncommon amongst bike companies anyway - Fuji operates in a similar way, and there are plenty more that i can't think of off the top of my head.

    i sure hate have to fart while riding the fixed gear...


    CF
    Yup, seems like 90% of the bike industry is just some marketing office and no "works" area.

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    Difference in cost?

    Since you're bored, can you research the difference in cost of the two bikes? I'm curious as to what the premium is on the Caddy badge. My best guess is a 20% premium.

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    Just like items with Harley Davidson slapped on them.

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    cadillac - 1899 (cadillacbikestore.com)
    # Frame: 6061 Custom Aluminum
    # Fork: Manitou Nixon Elite
    # Rear Shock: Manitou Radium R Air Shock
    # F. Derailleur: Shimano FD-510 Deore
    # R. Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT
    # Shifters: Shimano SL510 Deore
    # Crank: Truvativ FireX 22/32/44
    # Wheels: Alex Vectra-D2-Disk
    # Handlebar: Guizzo Alloy DB OVS 31.8
    # Stem: Patented ATS System
    # Pedals: Alloy 590 Platform
    # Tires: 26”x 2.35” Nevegal
    # Brakes: Shimano Mechanical M-475
    # Seat Post: Alloy 350MM – 31.6
    # Head Angle: 69 Degree
    # Seat Angle: 74 Degree
    # Top Tube Length: (17”=22.0) (18”=23.0) (19”=24.0)
    # Frame Size: 17”, 18” or 19”
    # Weight: 31-33lbs Depending On Size

    khs - 2199 (khs.com)
    Colour Flat Gray/Flat Black
    Size S, M, L
    Frame AL 7005, 4-bar linkage, RockShox Pearl 3.1 w/100, 125 or 150mm travel
    Fork Marzocchi All Mountain II, 130mm air shock w/rebound and compression adjustment
    Derailleur Shimano HONE/Shimano HONE
    Shifters Shimano HONE
    Cassette Shimano HONE 11-32, 9-speed
    Cranks Shimano HONE 44/32/22
    Pedals Alloy platform, replaceable pins
    Handlebar Truvativ Hussefelt 31.8
    Stem TruVativ Team 3D 31.8
    Headset FSA The Pig
    Brakes Shimano HONE, 8
    Levers Shimano HONE
    Saddle WTB Power V Comp
    Seat Post TruVativ XR double clamp
    Rims Weinmann DM-30 doublewall
    Hubs Shimano HONE disc
    Tires WTB Weirwolf Steel DNA 26x2.3
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    what would rainbow unicorn do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Clyde
    Since you're bored, can you research the difference in cost of the two bikes? I'm curious as to what the premium is on the Caddy badge. My best guess is a 20% premium.

    Bob
    MSRP already answered...how do the builds compare?

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    That's what I suspected.. Back in the day I had a macalu steel hardtail that was identical to a KHS as well..

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    Cadillac has added value though....

    meet the sales team and other happy clients, fitted to their new rides! Just like the website says. I'm sold. Jim


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    I wanna start selling subaru bikes. Just a little licensing work and I'm in... Think I could get the same frames as Cadillac?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessep
    I wanna start selling subaru bikes. Just a little licensing work and I'm in... Think I could get the same frames as Cadillac?

    Propably not - For Subaru, they would need to be Full time 2 wheel drive .

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    yet more rebranding....

    actually it's probably a Christini AWD bike...they pioneered it and brought it to market...

    https://www.christini.com/bikes.php


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    I'll buy the one jeep uses then....

    http://www.earthspirits.net/Merchant...Store_Code=abs

    yeah, awd...

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    Yeah, It is christini.. they even say so in the ad.. I guess the jeep fans will still buy jeep even if they say where they get the frames..

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    Wonder if there's anyone in their right mind that bought a Cristini. By people in their right mind, I mean people that don't thumb through The Sharper Image catalog believing that they are getting the latest, greatest tech in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Wonder if there's anyone in their right mind that bought a Cristini. By people in their right mind, I mean people that don't thumb through The Sharper Image catalog believing that they are getting the latest, greatest tech in it.

    whats wrong with the christini? at least he tried something new...
    what would rainbow unicorn do?

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    Yup, that he did.

    Ugh.

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    Has anyone here actually ridden a Christini? I've always wanted to try one to see how much of an advantage there is (if any) and how much resistance is added w/ the AWD system. I used to work at a bike shop that got one as a demo bike, but one of the other employees took it on the trails and it broke on the first ride, so i never got to ride it. And we decided not to carry them in the store.
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    I read about the driveshaft breaking, along with the wear that cog on the front sees.

    Other than that, the reviews mentioned that the bike rides somewhat neutrally, climbs with little front end wallow, but the fork is total ****. The system drags and it unreliable.

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    I test rode one, it steered like crap, sluggish as hell. And the bike is as heavy as an Abrahms tank, litteraly. Cool concept, sucky reality.
    I gotta roll, can't stand still, got a flame in my heart, can't get my fill.

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    FWD and RWD are....

    old news as anyone who actually rides can attest to.
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    I rode a Christini...

    Quote Originally Posted by jonlong
    Has anyone here actually ridden a Christini? I've always wanted to try one to see how much of an advantage there is (if any) and how much resistance is added w/ the AWD system. I used to work at a bike shop that got one as a demo bike, but one of the other employees took it on the trails and it broke on the first ride, so i never got to ride it. And we decided not to carry them in the store.

    The shop where i got my bike fixed didn't have it ready in time for a ride of mine so they threw a christini my way. Luckily we were going to an area without a lot of climbing. I had to disengage the awd mechanism on downhills, it actually was slowing it down. But on the rollor coaster, twisty turny stuff it was out of control, like i was on rails. It held crazy well in turns and really gave me increased confidence.

    Climbing was interesting. I wouldn't say i climbed better or worse. That may be one aspect that wasn't readily apparent or needed to be learned to fully utilize.
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    I rode one at a demo day as well. It was clunky and sluggish with the AWD engaged but I thought it climbed incredibly well on steep short grunts. Don't think it was worth the extra drag but perhaps if you did a lot of steep short climbs...

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