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    OT: Passion burns hot! Too hot.

    OK. I really hate to contribute to the OT trend, but I don't really know anyone else into computers, and I know there are a few of you on here who are quite knowledgeable & would have an aswer to this q. I'll keep this short & sweet.

    Whilst happily smecking about in passion, my computer made a faint electrical fire scent, a little whisp of white smoke, and quietly turned itself off. So I ordered a new system. A comparatively fancy new box with 10x the speed, dash and bravado of my last one. None of the new hardware will be the same, guaranteed. I salvaged my two HD's from the smouldering pile, and though I was sure it was an impossibility, a conversation with a friend has left me wondering this:

    If I plug my old master HD into the new box, as the new master, will the OS (XP Pro, current) figure out the new hardware and just start right up?

    I thought for sure there'd be mass panic, and parts of the OS would be screaming at other parts of the OS over unidentifiable and/or missing hardware, maybe even the registry would freak out over missing device numbers or some crap I've never heard of. He seems to think it should work, and I can use the other drives as storage. This would be ideal, as all my OS & several design programs are authenticated and getting new codes for a fresh install will be long and costly.

    Anyone ever tried plopping a HD from one modern system into a completely different modern system? Thanks, & sorry for trashing up the place with more non-ride-pic posting.

    Also, my email is on the drive sitting inaccessibly on my desk, so if you've got anything, please post it here. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsp
    left me wondering this:

    If I plug my old master HD into the new box, as the new master, will the OS (XP Pro, current) figure out the new hardware and just start right up?
    Seems reasonable based on a conversation with one of my friends. It is like it never "left" the old box. So long as everything plugs into one another.
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    Haha, thx MF! That's just the kind of news I like to hear.
    How's that brew looking?

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    Haha, thx MF! That's just the kind of news I like to hear.
    How's that brew looking?
    No problemo. The brew is a little bit of a bitter subject right now (not in a good way). It has been bottled now for just under three weeks. Upon week one in the bottle, I tried one. It was flat, and did not really taste like I was hoping. I thought "it just needs another week". At week two, I poped another bottle. Still flat and lacking good flavor. Heavier on the maltiness, while that is not all that bad, it does lack the hoppiness I would like. I like my flowers bulbous and named Cascade, Willamette, Chinook,...etc. I digress. So it just is not carbonating in the bottle. The basement stays +62 F, which should be OK for ale yeasts. There was a helluva a lot bubbling when I went to the secondary and added my 3/4 cu. corn sugar solution done up in 16 oz. H2O. So perhaps I lost it while I was bottling. Perhaps it is too cold in the basement. Charlie Papazian's book suggests uncapping all the bottles and adding some live yeast and some more sugar. This sounds daunting and could add another line that would possibly make the batch go south. Luckily, I have some store bought back up beer right now. Suggestions? Sorry for the epic hi-jack
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    Quote Originally Posted by fsp
    OK. I really hate to contribute to the OT trend, but I don't really know anyone else into computers, and I know there are a few of you on here who are quite knowledgeable & would have an aswer to this q. I'll keep this short & sweet.

    Whilst happily smecking about in passion, my computer made a faint electrical fire scent, a little whisp of white smoke, and quietly turned itself off. So I ordered a new system. A comparatively fancy new box with 10x the speed, dash and bravado of my last one. None of the new hardware will be the same, guaranteed. I salvaged my two HD's from the smouldering pile, and though I was sure it was an impossibility, a conversation with a friend has left me wondering this:

    If I plug my old master HD into the new box, as the new master, will the OS (XP Pro, current) figure out the new hardware and just start right up?

    I thought for sure there'd be mass panic, and parts of the OS would be screaming at other parts of the OS over unidentifiable and/or missing hardware, maybe even the registry would freak out over missing device numbers or some crap I've never heard of. He seems to think it should work, and I can use the other drives as storage. This would be ideal, as all my OS & several design programs are authenticated and getting new codes for a fresh install will be long and costly.

    Anyone ever tried plopping a HD from one modern system into a completely different modern system? Thanks, & sorry for trashing up the place with more non-ride-pic posting.

    Also, my email is on the drive sitting inaccessibly on my desk, so if you've got anything, please post it here. Thanks!

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    Well, it would be a lot less of a hassle to just replace the power supply in the old system. I'd bet that was the sizzle. And, unless you have a (Dell) stupid (Dell) proprietary (Dell) piece (Dell) of (Dell) hardware, you can pick one up cheap at any Best Buy or the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsp
    Ah nuuuUUUTS! I thought I could replace the power supply, but I was told by someone obviously a lot more self-confident than knowledgeable, that it'd cost $500 minimum to do, & that a sizzled PS was the death knell of any system. Buggers. Well, too late now, the systems been turned in to the computer scrapper folks.
    Wow, someone is taking you for a ride if they are saying a PS is 500.00 to replace; they are more like 50.00. You just plug them in. Well, on the bright side, you'll have a new(er) machine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ya_Hozna
    Well, it would be a lot less of a hassle to just replace the power supply in the old system. I'd bet that was the sizzle. And, unless you have a (Dell) stupid (Dell) proprietary (Dell) piece (Dell) of (Dell) hardware, you can pick one up cheap at any Best Buy or the like.
    I've a Dell 4400, and replaced the powersupply no prob. With the Master and slave, it depends on what you select. Most HD's come with the Cable Select option so you plug in the Master into the cable plug at the end, and the other one into the other selector, Win Xp will take care of it; and if it doesn't, you can just manually change the jumpers on the HD's. Just set one to Master and the other to a Slave, and you're good to go. You'll see the instructions on the HD's.

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    Ah nuuuUUUTS! I thought I could replace the power supply, but I was told by someone obviously a lot more self-confident than knowledgeable, that it'd cost $500 minimum to do, & that a sizzled PS was the death knell of any system. Buggers. Well, too late now, the systems been turned in to the computer scrapper folks.

    Man, Meat, that sounds like a squirrely batch. I guess I'm a little gunshy. When I get a batch going south, I just dump it, swear for a little while, and start over. I've just started to brew a Colorado wildflower honey Mead to bring to the Fruita Fat Tire Fest. SO much less to go wrong with this stuff, Mead is great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsp
    When I get a batch going south, I just dump it, swear for a little while, and start over.
    I think that is where I am heading. The time to salvage and hope that it is done "proper like" seems to be a sink. I really want to do an Imperial Stout or Oatmeal Stout next. Spring is coming, so a nice IPA would be splendid too.
    Quote Originally Posted by fsp
    I've just started to brew a Colorado wildflower honey Mead to bring to the Fruita Fat Tire Fest. SO much less to go wrong with this stuff, Mead is great!
    That sounds yummy (in my best pooh bear voice). I wish well with the batch and computer venture.

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    It is extremely unlikely that XP will boot up on the new system. I build and repair computers in my spare time and while i have had this work once or twice, it was always a bigger pain in the A$$ than if i had just re installed the OS in the first place.
    If the old machine is more than a few years old, the newer hardware will likely cause the system to blue screen or lock up. Best bet is to install a fresh OS on the new machine, and then move the old drives over to recover your old data.
    Trust me, it is the easiest way in the long run and will ensure your new machine is running at it's potential rather than limping along like a three legged turtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirbster1966
    It is extremely unlikely that XP will boot up on the new system. I build and repair computers in my spare time and while i have had this work once or twice, it was always a bigger pain in the A$$ than if i had just re installed the OS in the first place.
    If the old machine is more than a few years old, the newer hardware will likely cause the system to blue screen or lock up. Best bet is to install a fresh OS on the new machine, and then move the old drives over to recover your old data.
    Trust me, it is the easiest way in the long run and will ensure your new machine is running at it's potential rather than limping along like a three legged turtle.
    I agree fully. Network Admin is my life, and although I primarily spend my time on the IP side of the computer world, I am also Microsoft certified, so let me try to save you a bunch of trouble.

    First, the idea your friend gave you is very logical, but impractical. Feel free to try it, if it does work, great, but beware, you will be in for trouble soon down the road. When XP loads the HAL, it is expecting a certain class of hardware. XP will likely BSOD when it finds the exisitng hardware drivers are not compatible. Xp certainly has a great driver database, but XP needs to be loaded and functional to use it.

    A better solution would be to leave the pre-installed HD as the master, setup your previous master as the primary slave and setup your previous second HD as the secondary primary or slave. You will have easy access to all your previous data, but will need to reinstall any applications.

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    Even if the new system won't boot with the old hard drive the way it is, you should be able to do a parallel install of the operating system. You just install XP into a new and different folder without wiping or repartioning the hard drive, and that will at least get you to the point where you can backup all those pictures and tax records you most likely never backed up before. Then you can reconnect the new hard drive and restore your documents and images if nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikehigh
    Even if the new system won't boot with the old hard drive the way it is, you should be able to do a parallel install of the operating system. You just install XP into a new and different folder without wiping or repartioning the hard drive, and that will at least get you to the point where you can backup all those pictures and tax records you most likely never backed up before. Then you can reconnect the new hard drive and restore your documents and images if nothing else.
    Another option you could do is get a ghosting program like Norton Ghost and copy the image of your old HD to the new HD. Then you won't have to reinstall everything.

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    ummm........no that would be exactly the same as installing the old drive......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Foot
    No problemo. The brew is a little bit of a bitter subject right now (not in a good way). It has been bottled now for just under three weeks. Upon week one in the bottle, I tried one. It was flat, and did not really taste like I was hoping. I thought "it just needs another week". At week two, I poped another bottle. Still flat and lacking good flavor. Heavier on the maltiness, while that is not all that bad, it does lack the hoppiness I would like. I like my flowers bulbous and named Cascade, Willamette, Chinook,...etc. I digress. So it just is not carbonating in the bottle. The basement stays +62 F, which should be OK for ale yeasts. There was a helluva a lot bubbling when I went to the secondary and added my 3/4 cu. corn sugar solution done up in 16 oz. H2O. So perhaps I lost it while I was bottling. Perhaps it is too cold in the basement. Charlie Papazian's book suggests uncapping all the bottles and adding some live yeast and some more sugar. This sounds daunting and could add another line that would possibly make the batch go south. Luckily, I have some store bought back up beer right now. Suggestions? Sorry for the epic hi-jack
    Bring the beer into a warmer room for a couple of weeks and try it. 62 sounds a little cold, depending on what you used. You used enough sugar, and if you add more, your beer could end up too fizzy. It's already done fermenting, so the warmer temps shouldn't hurt. I've had the same problem with bottle conditioning at low temps. Also, on your next beer, throw an ounce of cascade in the secondary for more hop aroma and flavor. It'll give you that nice grape-fruity aroma that snpa has.

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    I'm also a longtime IT pro and I think you're asking for a whole lotta trouble trying to get the old HD to work plug n play. Might work, but like tiSSer mentioned, just make the old HD the slave and retrieve the data you need from it.

    tiSSer, when you say the IP side do you mean you primarily build/maintain networks AKA network engineer type stuff? I was headed that direction before getting into casino IT and being trapped in point of sale hell. How'd you manage to get into strictly networking? PM me if you like, its a bit off topic for this thread.

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