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    MTB. Is it really safer than drugs?

    I was just posting in another thread about overcoming mental illness and addiction, when it occurred to me comparable side effects can be found from both.

    Drugs are bad.

    -We lose motivation.
    -We don't care about anything but our next fix.
    -We sit around, smoke drugs, eat food, and get all out of shape.
    -We become physically weak.
    -We get stoned, speed recklessly down the road, hit a pole, and die. -We can overdose and die.
    -We sell our things for more drugs.
    -They separate families.
    -We join therapy groups to find ways to do less drugs.

    MTB, supposedly a good thing to do instead of drugs, right? Well, there's evidence to support the contrary.

    -We lose concentration at work because we're daydreaming about biking.
    -We don't care about anything but our next ride.
    -We go out, get hurt, can't ride, and get all out of shape.
    -We get stoked, speed recklessly through the woods, hit a tree, and die.
    -We can go over a cliff and die.
    -We sell our things to buy bikes.
    -Spouses threaten separation over another bike purchase.
    -We join biking groups to find ways to ride more.

    I'm sure the list goes on. Y'all got any more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin View Post
    I was just posting in another thread about overcoming mental illness and addiction, when it occurred to me comparable side effects can be found from both.

    Drugs are bad.

    -We lose motivation.
    -We don't care about anything but our next fix.
    -We sit around, smoke drugs, eat food, and get all out of shape.
    -We become physically weak.
    -We get stoned, speed recklessly down the road, hit a pole, and die. -We can overdose and die.
    -We sell our things for more drugs.
    -They separate families.
    -We join therapy groups to find ways to do less drugs.

    MTB, supposedly a good thing to do instead of drugs, right? Well, there's evidence to support the contrary.

    -We lose concentration at work because we're daydreaming about biking.
    -We don't care about anything but our next ride.
    -We go out, get hurt, can't ride, and get all out of shape.
    -We get stoked, speed recklessly through the woods, hit a tree, and die.
    -We can go over a cliff and die.
    -We sell our things to buy bikes.
    -Spouses threaten separation over another bike purchase.
    -We join biking groups to find ways to ride more.

    I'm sure the list goes on. Y'all got any more?
    I find all the mtb examples hold true for me, but none of the drug examples do.
    So I guess drugs are actually better for me than bikes. Who'd'a thunk it?

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    MTB. Is it really safer than drugs?

    I've never heard of someone spending hours cleaning and maintaining drugs.

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    All in moderation.

    I guess.

    Doesn't really work for me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin View Post

    -We lose concentration at work because we're daydreaming about biking.
    -We don't care about anything but our next ride.
    -We go out, get hurt, can't ride, and get all out of shape.
    -We get stoked, speed recklessly through the woods, hit a tree, and die.
    -We can go over a cliff and die.
    -We sell our things to buy bikes.
    -Spouses threaten separation over another bike purchase.
    -We join biking groups to find ways to ride more.

    I'm sure the list goes on. Y'all got any more?
    Not that true for me. I love mountain biking. My favorite sport/hobby, but it doesn't make me lose focus of reality and putting my wife before my needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerbait View Post
    I've never heard of someone spending hours cleaning and maintaining drugs.
    Well no, but people spend hours making and cleaning various drug apparati. (is that the correct word?)
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    I've never held up a 7-11 to support my MTB habit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltspd1 View Post
    I've never held up a 7-11 to support my MTB habit.
    Yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltspd1 View Post
    I've never held up a 7-11 to support my MTB habit.
    Only a couple of times, but I really needed that new Pike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerbait View Post
    I've never heard of someone spending hours cleaning and maintaining drugs.
    I take it you've never raised a garden of flowering plants?
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    What about MTB'n on drugs?

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    I'm a former 22-year meth addict and smoker. My last ER visit in 2006 was for Congestive Heart Failure(CHF)....a direct result of abusing those substances, as I never saw any time sober(only when incarcerated). My doctor told me, "IF you recover and can abstain - I suggest you start riding a bike...because you won't make it to 50, without suffering the complications of COPD and/or Emphysema."

    I took his advice and ran with it. Today, at 50 - I have neither illness and can actually afford to maintain a healthy habit!
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    Sorry.....can't help you out. Never been a drug user, so don't have anything to base it off of.
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    Coming from an area where I've had friends die, OD, and become imprisoned, I don't see a comparison at all.

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    Drugs are cheaper, and come with less physical trauma.

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    Hey guys, just don't go to crazy with it! 😁 being a noob I'll try to listen to my own advice.

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    A serious and enthusiastic investment in mountain biking (or road) and you won't be able to afford drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    I'm a former 22-year meth addict and smoker. My last ER visit in 2006 was for Congestive Heart Failure(CHF)....a direct result of abusing those substances, as I never saw any time sober(only when incarcerated). My doctor told me, "IF you recover and can abstain - I suggest you start riding a bike...because you won't make it to 50, without suffering the complications of COPD and/or Emphysema."

    I took his advice and ran with it. Today, at 50 - I have neither illness and can actually afford to maintain a healthy habit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerbait View Post
    I've never heard of someone spending hours cleaning and maintaining drugs.
    I've heard tweekers spend hours cleaning their pipes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    I'm a former 22-year meth addict and smoker. My last ER visit in 2006 was for Congestive Heart Failure(CHF)....a direct result of abusing those substances, as I never saw any time sober(only when incarcerated). My doctor told me, "IF you recover and can abstain - I suggest you start riding a bike...because you won't make it to 50, without suffering the complications of COPD and/or Emphysema."

    I took his advice and ran with it. Today, at 50 - I have neither illness and can actually afford to maintain a healthy habit!
    Congrats on your clean time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chugachjed View Post
    Drugs are cheaper, and come with less physical trauma.
    False, one trip to jail will run you in the thousands, people spend thousands on getting high, and drug use on the same level of regular biking will lead to job loss, heart failure, brain aneurysm, tooth decay, loss of friends and family, etc etc. I'm not talking about smoking a little weed. I know plenty of fully functional and good members of society that smoke weed regularly, but the hard stuff is both disgusting and destructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saladin View Post
    I was just posting in another thread about overcoming mental illness and addiction, when it occurred to me comparable side effects can be found from both.

    Drugs are bad.

    -We lose motivation.
    -We don't care about anything but our next fix.
    -We sit around, smoke drugs, eat food, and get all out of shape.
    -We become physically weak.
    -We get stoned, speed recklessly down the road, hit a pole, and die. -We can overdose and die.
    -We sell our things for more drugs.
    -They separate families.
    -We join therapy groups to find ways to do less drugs.

    MTB, supposedly a good thing to do instead of drugs, right? Well, there's evidence to support the contrary.

    -We lose concentration at work because we're daydreaming about biking.
    -We don't care about anything but our next ride.
    -We go out, get hurt, can't ride, and get all out of shape.
    -We get stoked, speed recklessly through the woods, hit a tree, and die.
    -We can go over a cliff and die.
    -We sell our things to buy bikes.
    -Spouses threaten separation over another bike purchase.
    -We join biking groups to find ways to ride more.

    I'm sure the list goes on. Y'all got any more?
    - We hide our drug purchases from our loved ones.

    - We hide our MTB purchases from our (wife/girlfriend) loved ones.

    On the bright side none of these mtb activities will carry criminal charges.

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    Recent study is showing that smoking marijuana increases performance. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douwe View Post
    False, one trip to jail will run you in the thousands, people spend thousands on getting high, and drug use on the same level of regular biking will lead to job loss, heart failure, brain aneurysm, tooth decay, loss of friends and family, etc etc. I'm not talking about smoking a little weed. I know plenty of fully functional and good members of society that smoke weed regularly, but the hard stuff is both disgusting and destructive.
    Depends on the drug. Meth cocaine heroin yea for sure, but the people that are a using those drugs and cannabis (to a lesser extent) are doing it for a reason that is almost 100% correlatable to trauma and lack of human contact.

    But there is an entire swath of entheogens that people use regularly but aren't abused and typically do no harm like LSD MDMA psilocybin DMT Ibogaine and there are many others. So I guess it comes down to what chemicals you are thinking of when people say "drug use" my brain doesn't go to meth or heroin because I see the use of those substances as a symptom not the problem itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleared2land View Post
    A serious and enthusiastic investment in mountain biking (or road) and you won't be able to afford drugs.
    That works the other way around too.
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    Well, it does have this going for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLd View Post
    Yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Coming from an area where I've had friends die, OD, and become imprisoned, I don't see a comparison at all.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    I'm a former 22-year meth addict and smoker. My last ER visit in 2006 was for Congestive Heart Failure(CHF)....a direct result of abusing those substances, as I never saw any time sober(only when incarcerated). My doctor told me, "IF you recover and can abstain - I suggest you start riding a bike...because you won't make it to 50, without suffering the complications of COPD and/or Emphysema."

    I took his advice and ran with it. Today, at 50 - I have neither illness and can actually afford to maintain a healthy habit!
    Kickass!

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    "and typically do no harm like LSD MDMA psilocybin DMT Ibogaine and there are many others"

    i don't think there's too many people who REGULARLY use ibogaine...

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    Many many years ago there was this guy in my college dormitory that was reputed to have taken lsd every day of one college semester. He was funny, but I don't believe you could say it hadn't done him any harm, he didn't go to class, and of course, he flunked out.

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    So, is it statistically more likely that you will be killed by a drug overdose or be hit and killed by a car while cycling?

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    Depends on the user and the rider, the drug and the road, the pipe and the bike.
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    Yeah it's all jokes and funny etc, but seriously. Especially now, it's hard for people with mental issues to handle with all this situation. I've already googled for hotlines (I'm taking antidepressants already), so maybe it will be useful for someone as well: https://addictionresource.com/addict...raska-numbers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeIntelligencer View Post
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    I don't know man... N+1 is an addiction and so are upgrade parts. Perhaps MTB and drugs are one in the same? Perhaps just a new name?
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    It's not either or.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery View Post
    I don't know man... N+1 is an addiction and so are upgrade parts. Perhaps MTB and drugs are one in the same? Perhaps just a new name?
    I gave up one for the other transferring the addictive pattern of the mind trying to find something to feel good. I have been meditating on being in the present which helps tremendously.

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    Dope is for dopes...

    MTB'in is food for the soul!!

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    Mountain biking stimulates neurotransmitters that have a drug-like effect the way Nature intended without the harmful biological side effects. Crashing is on you, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barman1 View Post
    All in moderation.

    I guess.

    Doesn't really work for me though.
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    MTB'in cleanses your insides (physical & spiritual)...

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