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    Any docs - anyone - arthritis....

    I always have a minor ache/pain in my left lower neck and my middle back - from pics, it looks like something to do with the trap muscle. No serious injuries to the area and an MRI didn't reveal anything (a minor 'bulge' which a specialist determined to be insignificant)....could be arthritis in the neck area. Any suggestions? Heat, massage, ice, tylenol, creams, stretching (extensive), etc. provide only very temporary relief...looking for something to do or something to take (even though I hate that) that will provide at least a couple days relief at a time....

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    Cure or temporary relief?

    Quote Originally Posted by MCF
    I always have a minor ache/pain in my left lower neck and my middle back - from pics, it looks like something to do with the trap muscle. No serious injuries to the area and an MRI didn't reveal anything (a minor 'bulge' which a specialist determined to be insignificant)....could be arthritis in the neck area. Any suggestions? Heat, massage, ice, tylenol, creams, stretching (extensive), etc. provide only very temporary relief...looking for something to do or something to take (even though I hate that) that will provide at least a couple days relief at a time....
    My advise comes from over 20 years experience with chronic pain in legs, back, and neck following a car wreck, with perspective from 3 neurosurgeons referred by an orthopedic.

    I know from effective treatment that a good chiropractor, referred by a person who was successfully treated, can cure the minor spine alignment problem that may likely be causing the symptoms of tight muscles and irritated nerves, inflammation, and a possible environment for arthritis.

    Acupuncture can provide effective relief for up to 5 days.

    Stretching is mostly preventative of injury, but can be curative if practiced religiously over a long period of time.

    Drugs (and acupuncture) can hide the structural cause of a bone alignment problem, giving a false sense of well being and increase the risk of aggravating the alignment cause of the symptoms.

    Unlike MD or PT skills derived from med schools, a good chiropractor can also detect if there is no alignment problem and refer you to see appropriate effective treatment, including MD's.

    Sadly neither MD's nor PT's are yet trained in chiropractic diagnosis and treatment. Someday, once the politics of misinformation dies down from both chiropractors and MD's, chiropractic service will become the foundation of health practice. Every MD should be at least educated and PT's trained in this fundamental health treatment.

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    Thanks for the advice....

    I had a chiropractor that I trusted for years until this presented itself....then he started with the "you need to come 4 times a week for the next 6 weeks" speech. i went for ~ 3 weeks with no improvement and then the neck/spine specialist I saw told me that 'cracking and popping' is not going to help any. I would see a chiropractor, but I have yet to find one that is willing to accept just an insurance co-pay.....

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    Life is painful

    Quote Originally Posted by MCF
    I always have a minor ache/pain in my left lower neck and my middle back - from pics, it looks like something to do with the trap muscle. No serious injuries to the area and an MRI didn't reveal anything (a minor 'bulge' which a specialist determined to be insignificant)....could be arthritis in the neck area. Any suggestions? Heat, massage, ice, tylenol, creams, stretching (extensive), etc. provide only very temporary relief...looking for something to do or something to take (even though I hate that) that will provide at least a couple days relief at a time....
    as you already know.

    I find it better to expect and embrace the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Nazi
    as you already know.

    I find it better to expect and embrace the pain.
    That's just silly.

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    I would find another chiropractor if I were you. Ever since I found my current one, I actually enjoy going so much that I am there every week, without fail, strictly for maintenance. Every once in a while I get a minor ache or pain, but since I am on the maintenance schedule (ie: 1 visit per week), 99% of the time I am pain free! Ask around, ask your friends, your collegues, your neighbors who they use......
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    Maybe not

    Quote Originally Posted by forkboy
    That's just silly.
    And I'm not the only one. When I was a kid there used to be this 55 year old monster that worked out at the gym almost everyday, when we got to know him, he told us that his whole body aches from arthritis unless he works out hard.

    My guess is that just about everyone on this earth over 3 decades knows chronic re-occuring pain, I know I do but the less I think & talk about it the less it hurts, other things that dull the pain for me are pushing myself beyond my anaerobic limits on the bike and in the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCF
    I always have a minor ache/pain in my left lower neck and my middle back - from pics, it looks like something to do with the trap muscle. No serious injuries to the area and an MRI didn't reveal anything (a minor 'bulge' which a specialist determined to be insignificant)....could be arthritis in the neck area. Any suggestions? Heat, massage, ice, tylenol, creams, stretching (extensive), etc. provide only very temporary relief...looking for something to do or something to take (even though I hate that) that will provide at least a couple days relief at a time....
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    massage..

    Quote Originally Posted by MCF
    I always have a minor ache/pain in my left lower neck and my middle back - from pics, it looks like something to do with the trap muscle. No serious injuries to the area and an MRI didn't reveal anything (a minor 'bulge' which a specialist determined to be insignificant)....could be arthritis in the neck area. Any suggestions? Heat, massage, ice, tylenol, creams, stretching (extensive), etc. provide only very temporary relief...looking for something to do or something to take (even though I hate that) that will provide at least a couple days relief at a time....
    I dont thiink its arthritis because what happens in my traps doenst happen the same way that arthirtis does in my hands and wrists.

    Ive foundthat i can keep it at bay using a hand held massager and and serious stretching. becuase my traps bulk up with almost no effort i dont work when i left. Ive also noticed that when i do work up theres a direct correlation to my neck which just makes things worse.

    My advice, of which io have yet to subscribe to, is to see a physical therapist and have them show you how to work the traps and your neck using some easy as heck exercises..

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    I need to clear up some misinformation regarding physical therapists. First, there are many PT's out there that are trained in spinal manipulations. Second, it was not taught in PT schools until recently. Spinal mobilization has been taught in PT schools for a long time, however, many maybe most have added manipulation to their curriculum as of now. So the bottom line is search out the appropriate PT just as you would research your next bike purchase.
    As to the original post. It would be a good idea to determine if you have some spinal segments that are either hyper or hypomobile. Then identify the muscular dysfunction that is usually associated with it. A good PT can evaluate and give the appropriate treatment for this condition. There are also good chiropractors that can do the same.
    Good luck,
    tim nichol, PT

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrm
    I dont thiink its arthritis because what happens in my traps doenst happen the same way that arthirtis does in my hands and wrists.

    Ive foundthat i can keep it at bay using a hand held massager and and serious stretching. becuase my traps bulk up with almost no effort i dont work when i left. Ive also noticed that when i do work up theres a direct correlation to my neck which just makes things worse.

    My advice, of which io have yet to subscribe to, is to see a physical therapist and have them show you how to work the traps and your neck using some easy as heck exercises..

    maybe this is way off base, but you should check your daily work area for ergonomic no-nos. I finally went though my computer and sewing stations very carefully, re set all my table heights ( I am short) and voila, no more chronic neck/trap/rhomboid spasms. I had been treating everything rather successfully with intense massage therapy and occasional chiropratic, but it's much better to go to the source of the problem. The OSHA site is a good reference, dont' know what kind of work you do but it
    is an idea.

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    try this...

    www.activerelease.com

    find a chiropractor that does this technique or has a therapist in their office that does. Try it in conjunction with the adjustments and you may seem some better results.

    brad.


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