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    3D bicycle and frame design

    Hi,

    this is Carlos from Spain.

    My first post in this forum is to show you my 3D computer designs of frames and bicycles.

    First of all, sorry for my poor English, Im improving but I know that I have to study a lot.

    Now, Im going to tell you how I started using my computer to design bicycles.

    Since I was a child, I like drawing (dead people, cars, animals, landscapes...), then, I started my studies of engeneering and I learn how to use Autocad in 2D.

    As I like bicycles, I started learning 3D modelling in Autocad by my own, and these are my designs from those days:
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    As you can see, they are not very real, but I was proud of them.

    The suspension frame is inspired in a hardtail frame: the Amaro Vitti.

    I was noticed that the Autocad was not the best program for bicycle designing but I had not to much time to learn how to use a new program and I continued with Autocad.

    My next project was a Hardtail 29er carbon frame:
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    Well, I hope this post is not just to show my designs but that it becomes a corner where anyone who wants to put their drawings.

    I will continue posting my other designs.

    Greetings to all.

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    Well,

    I know that my first works donnt look great, so I tried to improve using Autocad, and doing more detailed projects.

    The next projects were a long travel hardtail and a marathon frame (120 mm rear wheel travel).
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    After those renders, I liked something better and I started doing some scenarios and playing with lights but still using Autocad 2010.
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    You can see the difference between the two renders of the marathon frame.

    First of all, the materials become more realistic and if you watch closer, I had changed the rear triangle of the frame.

    I made a mistake with the measurements and I had to modify some parts, and I think that it looks better now.

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    The next project was an enduro carbon frame using more complex surfaces in the tube set.

    It uses a similar suspension system than they use in the Cube Sting.
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    And here, you can see some of my projects together.

    - Two fixed with the same frame but different decoration.
    - 29er carbon frame.
    - Titanium marathon frame (120 mm wheel travel).
    - Carbon enduro frame (150 mm wheel travel).
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    Hi there

    Cool work and designs especially the Enduro Carbon suspension frame- I use AutoCAD for work and in my spare time I have tried to draw my Yeti 575 but gave up as I had too much difficulty tryin to get it to look realisitic.

    If it is not too difficult, I would be gratefull if you could answer the following:
    Q1. How did you do the curves and the changing tube profile on the top tube of the Carbon 29er ? (ie what commands etc)
    Q2. What shademode and colours (or renders/materials??) is you use for the Carbon 29er ?
    Q3. What computer and specs do you have.

    Cheers, and hope you can answer - and by the way, Yes, you spend too much time at your computer !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPH
    Hi there

    Cool work and designs especially the Enduro Carbon suspension frame- I use AutoCAD for work and in my spare time I have tried to draw my Yeti 575 but gave up as I had too much difficulty tryin to get it to look realisitic.

    If it is not too difficult, I would be gratefull if you could answer the following:
    Q1. How did you do the curves and the changing tube profile on the top tube of the Carbon 29er ? (ie what commands etc)
    Q2. What shademode and colours (or renders/materials??) is you use for the Carbon 29er ?
    Q3. What computer and specs do you have.

    Cheers, and hope you can answer - and by the way, Yes, you spend too much time at your computer !!!

    KPH
    Thank you. I know that Autocad is not the best program to do these designs but I previously knew the program and that was the reason.

    Now, the answers to your questions:

    A1. What I do is drawing the "path" as a single line (straight or curve) and the, I do the sections, for example, I can start with a circle and finish with a square, and then I use the "rulesurf" to generate the solid.
    A2. I cant help you because at this moment Im not using Autocad for 3D modelling and I dont remember everything.
    A3. Im using a HP g62 (intel i3, 4 Gb Ram...), but for my first designs I used an Acer with an AMD Athlon...

    If you need it I can review my Autocad files to tell you the setup of some projects.

    Greetings.

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    The last project I did using Autocad was a fixie bicycle.

    In this project I worked slowly doing more details and I think that the result is good.

    After that, I started using a new program, but this is another story, hahaha.
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    After this project, I had a problem with my computer and I had to stop my learning process for a few weeks until I bought a new computer.

    Due to my studies, I needed another laptop and I chose a 15,4 " LED screen HP, which is powerfull enough for me and not very expensive.

    When I started to install my programs, I thought that it could be nice if I could learn how to use a better 3d design program.

    And I got two of them: Solidworks and Rhinoceros.

    I needed Solidworks for my graduation project in The Netherlands, but I had no time to learn how to design a 3D bicycle frame with it so Rhinoceros is the solution: easier, similar to Autocad, good results...

    And I started doing my virtual machineshop.
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    I have to say that the computer and the sound system are not my work, I have downloaded them from this interesting site:

    http://www.flyingarchitecture.com/

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    Good job, computer animation and modeling take a lot of time and artistic talent. Real nice renderings and I like the geometry. Good luck, keep at it and save a portfolio of everything so you have something to show when opportunity knocks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpride
    Good job, computer animation and modeling take a lot of time and artistic talent. Real nice renderings and I like the geometry. Good luck, keep at it and save a portfolio of everything so you have something to show when opportunity knocks...
    Thank you.

    Im finishing my studies in electronic engineering but I would like also working with 3D modelling, of course with bicycles.

    Greetings from Spain.

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    hey a program you might like to use is Inventor 2010. its made by autodesk (same people that make autocad) i think you might find it easier to work with. i've used alot of drafting programs. (i'm in school to be a draftsman) anything from AutoCAD 2D 2010, AutoCAD 3D 2010, Inventor 2010, 3ds Max, Revit Architecture 2010, Civil 3D 2010, AutoCAD Architecture 2010 and 2007or 08. and outta all those programs i think you'll like Inventor the most. i haven't taken solidworks yet but i'm taking it next semester. also a program you might like is Google Sketchup. its free from google and really easy to use. it also lets you bring AutoCAD drawings into it so it might be a quicker and easier way to make a showroom for your bikes.

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    Those are really cool, is it hard to model the threads on the fixie cog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman748
    hey a program you might like to use is Inventor 2010. its made by autodesk (same people that make autocad) i think you might find it easier to work with. i've used alot of drafting programs. (i'm in school to be a draftsman) anything from AutoCAD 2D 2010, AutoCAD 3D 2010, Inventor 2010, 3ds Max, Revit Architecture 2010, Civil 3D 2010, AutoCAD Architecture 2010 and 2007or 08. and outta all those programs i think you'll like Inventor the most. i haven't taken solidworks yet but i'm taking it next semester. also a program you might like is Google Sketchup. its free from google and really easy to use. it also lets you bring AutoCAD drawings into it so it might be a quicker and easier way to make a showroom for your bikes.
    Hey, thank you for the message.

    I havent tried the Inventor, but I would like to do it, maybe next month or so I could install it and give it a try.

    For the moment, Im happy with Rhinoceros and I want to learn more about the Solid Works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbotron
    Those are really cool, is it hard to model the threads on the fixie cog?
    Its quite simple, but you have to know how to do it.

    Its an helicoil with some thickness, and you only need to substract it from the hub.

    Greetings.

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    Well, as I told you, I started using Rhinoceros, and my first project was an urban bicycle.

    This is the frame without the dropouts.
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    You're making some great looking renditions of frames, but I have to ask, what's the point? Just to play with the program or are you planning on building some of these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    You're making some great looking renditions of frames, but I have to ask, what's the point? Just to play with the program or are you planning on building some of these?
    Well, at first, it was only for fun, because I like drawing and I like bikes, so I started doing frames with Autocad, but know, Im collaborating with a frame builder from my place to get some renders of the frames before welding them in order to show to the customers what they are paying for.

    I would like to design my own frame, and know, I have the chance to do it, but I have to pay this guy for it. The good thing is that I will get a good price.

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    In this project, I started doing some components separately from the main project, so I can use them in other bicycles.

    For example, here you hace a stem and a rear hub (not finished).
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    And here, you can see the (almost but never) finished bicycle.
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    Nice work! I don't care if there's a point or not. The point is you're doing what you enjoy.

    If you set up the drawing, you could offer your service to builders. Customers go crazy over digital renderings, and builders can use the raw data for the construction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    Nice work! I don't care if there's a point or not. The point is you're doing what you enjoy.

    If you set up the drawing, you could offer your service to builders. Customers go crazy over digital renderings, and builders can use the raw data for the construction...

    Thanks.

    You are right. I think that if a framebuilder can show to the customer the final product is a good point and maybe he can increase the sales.

    Lets see what happen.

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    For one of my last jobs I started doing the hubs, and I think that tehy are looking good.

    I have to finish them, by the way.
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    This is a handlebar for a 29er that I designed as a request from a biker from foromtb.com (Spanish bicycle forum).
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    Good morning, this is the frame where Im going to put the blue hubs. Ive changed a little bit the top tube.
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    your talent is so amazing, i wish i can do something like that..
    anyway, does Rhinoceros work on windows 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RheXtian
    your talent is so amazing, i wish i can do something like that..
    anyway, does Rhinoceros work on windows 7?
    Yes, of course it works.

    Actually, Im using the program on windows 7, and I had no problems.

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    Now, the second part of the frame, with the rear end and the fork. And also with the new top tube.

    I hope you like it. Guess what kind of bicycle it is going to be?
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    This is the state of the bicycle today. No more mistery.

    I have to change the stem, that is from the previous project, and I have to do the drive train and the brakes.

    I also have to do a new render with the Paragon sliding dropouts, but Im waiting till I finish something else.
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    Well, Im going to explain this project.

    The idea came from a spanish guy in foromtb.com and I made it "real".

    It is based on the Surly Pugsley but with a different frame and the idea is to ride with the Rohloff, and if there is a problem with the hub, the wheels can be interchanged and the rider can use as a SS with the SS Chris King hub.

    I made the handlebar copying the Jeff Jones H-Bar and the saddle is a "present" from another guy in the foromtb.com.

    I had to make the wheels in that way because if I want to do a real one my computer is not able to render.

    My idea is to make front and rear racks, lights and fenders mounts.

    And the different between this and the pugsley is that the rear end has not offset because with these hubs and the 100 mm BB Shell I got a correct chain line.

    I hope you like it.

    Greetings.

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    Well, today Im starting to show you my most complete project.

    Step by step.

    First, the tube set. It is a Columbus Spirit set.
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    I enjoy your enthusiasm......keep it up.
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    Im going to give you another hint:
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    Next step: the main triangle.
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    And now, the complete frame but without the dropouts.
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    Good morning. At least, here in Holland, but only for the time not for the weather.

    Starting with the wheels.
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    The complete wheelset.
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    sir can you link me where can i download rhinoceros 3d, i can't seem to find it..

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    Painted frame and decorated lugs:
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    I know its not normal, but here you have a render of the finished frame (dropouts included) without paint. You can also watch the seatpost and the stem.
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    More components arriving:
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    el puto amo si seor

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironman13
    el puto amo si seor
    In English, please. Hahahaha.

    Thanks, compi!!!

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    Crankset and handlebar installed. First layer of painting.

    Im open to suggestions about the painting colour and decoration.

    Regards.
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    Latest advancement for today. It has the wheels in their place.

    Im still waiting for suggestions for the paint colour and decoration.

    Regards.
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    Any suggestion for the paint?

    I have a few ideas about it: clear blue and pearl white DT and ST pannels.

    But I think that maybe I could also chrome the SS and CS.

    What do you think?

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    Hey, is someone in there?

    From tomorrow to thursday Im going to be quite busy, so you have time to suggest the paint scheme for the bicycle.

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    Since its virtual, why not do something wild like a denim paint job. Shoot, you could do a dozen different paint schemes and not loose any investment. How about Burberry? Why not challenge yourself.

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    Nice work. I've been using CAD for 15+ years, but am just ow trying to model a bike. I've started with the wheel. Working on how to copy the spokes around in the 3X interlocking pattern.
    I've used Cadkey, Solidworks, Pro-E and Autocad.
    I think Solidworks is the easiest for this type of stuff.
    Keep working at it.
    I think a Khaki paintjob with the chrome would look great!

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    I'm just starting on Autocad. Your drawings are awesome! Hopefully I'll get the hang of it.

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    Ok, as request, Im going to put some different paint scheme during this week and then you can vote which you prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indianadave
    Nice work. I've been using CAD for 15+ years, but am just ow trying to model a bike. I've started with the wheel. Working on how to copy the spokes around in the 3X interlocking pattern.
    I've used Cadkey, Solidworks, Pro-E and Autocad.
    I think Solidworks is the easiest for this type of stuff.
    Keep working at it.
    I think a Khaki paintjob with the chrome would look great!
    The problem with the spokes is that you have to do 4 different pattern for each wheel, or at least 2, doing a mirror for the other side of the wheel. You need to do it twice, because the spokes are inner and outer if we talk about the hub flange. I dont know if you understood this, hahahaha, is quite difficult to explain in English.

    By the way, Im using Rhinoceros and is easier than Solidworks.

    Regards.

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    What about the paint schemes used by Klien - the paint seemed to fade into different colours without an obvious transition - the best I have seen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPH
    What about the paint schemes used by Klien - the paint seemed to fade into different colours without an obvious transition - the best I have seen ?
    That might be difficult but I could try.

    Give me some time to prepare the paint scheme.

    This is an opportunity for someone who is going to paint his classic bicycle but is not sure of the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlichin
    Any suggestion for the paint?

    I have a few ideas about it: clear blue and pearl white DT and ST pannels.

    But I think that maybe I could also chrome the SS and CS.

    What do you think?
    I don't know, but I love that ***** too.

    Nice work!

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    Maybe, tomorrow in the morning I could have time to do some different paint schemes.

    Stay tuned.

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    Well, as I see, the second page of this thread is empty of photos or renders, so Im going to show how I would like to decorate the bicycle.
    You also can see the complete drivetrain and everything finished.

    I hope you like this as much as I do.

    Greetings from Delft, but soon from Spain.
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    Any comment or constructive criticism?

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    I think the colors look great. Is it just me or do the chainstays look too fat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlycrimson
    I think the colors look great. Is it just me or do the chainstays look too fat?
    The chainstays are exactly like it appear in the Columbus catalogue, so the size is real and commercial.

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    Well, trying new paint scheme and new light scenario.

    What do you think about it?
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    Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by indian fire trail
    Great job!
    Thanks, tocayo!

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    Looks great! This kinda motivated me to play around with modeling a bike in Pro-E. Got a wheel/tire modeled so far. I'm doing a mountain bike though, and have tried a couple ways of adding knobbies to the tires... None of which have been satisfactory yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indianadave
    Looks great! This kinda motivated me to play around with modeling a bike in Pro-E. Got a wheel/tire modeled so far. I'm doing a mountain bike though, and have tried a couple ways of adding knobbies to the tires... None of which have been satisfactory yet.

    Come on. Lets see some examples of your work.

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    Nothing worth posting yet... Soon though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indianadave
    Nothing worth posting yet... Soon though.
    I hope so.

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    This has been a real nice thread......so here's my "contribuition". My bike design method uses a different kind of "software"......I call it BAD (brain aided design), we all have it installed and can all relate. Notice how it starts as an idea and finishes with a ride, crazy how the finished product translates from the idea.
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    Thanks for your contribution, Smokebikes and for sharing your BAD, hahaha; but since this thread is about 3D design it would be nice if we only post 3D computer designs or tips about this topic. I hope you dont missunderstand my words.

    Your design, is it a 04er? Haha. Nice job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlichin
    Thanks for your contribution, Smokebikes and for sharing your BAD, hahaha; but since this thread is about 3D design it would be nice if we only post 3D computer designs or tips about this topic. I hope you dont missunderstand my words.

    Your design, is it a 04er? Haha. Nice job.
    Dat's cool........I hear ya! Thanks...........it is an "04er" for my kid.
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    That 24/20 looks fun. How long is the TT and how does it ride?
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    Excellent job Charlichin. Check out http://grabcad.com/library, you might find some useful bicycle related models like that if you search for "bicycle":

    <iframe title='GrabCAD Cad File' class='grabcad-cadfile' type='text/html' width='310' height='252' src='http://grabcad.com/cadfiles/bicycle-suspension-frame/embed' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' style='border: 1px solid #ddd;'></iframe>

    <iframe title='GrabCAD Cad File' class='grabcad-cadfile' type='text/html' width='310' height='252' src='http://grabcad.com/cadfiles/bicycle-stem/embed' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' style='border: 1px solid #ddd;'></iframe>

    Go upload your models as well I'm hosting all my bike related stuff there....

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    Thanks for the link and sorry for dissapearing. Im at home during Christmas and my parents have not internet.

    If the full suspension frame is yours, congrats, nice job.

    Merry Christmas for everybody.

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    Incredible detail!

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Wow. Impressive renderings! I'm a Solidworks guy myself. Love the fat tire / rohloff design! I tried to reverse engineer/model my hardtail a long time ago....
    Right now I'm workin' on simple stuff, like QR seatpost clamps.
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    How I would love to fabricate some of these designs. The green bike early in the thread would be an amazing project. Great thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verticult
    How I would love to fabricate some of these designs. The green bike early in the thread would be an amazing project. Great thread.

    Thanks.

    Happy new year to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verticult
    How I would love to fabricate some of these designs. The green bike early in the thread would be an amazing project. Great thread.
    I like the purple one...........charlichin, keep em comin!
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    Wow, that's the coolest stuff I've ever seen!

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    This project started out as I was exploring a chromo mini-DH frame, 7" X 7". The guy I am collaborating with has been working with carbon fiber for years. He brought in a colleague with vast carbon fiber experience. The next thing I know, well here's proto #3.

    This will be refined. Pivot placement is pretty dialed for my style. 2.5 : 1 leverage. Chain growth about .75".

    Will be constructing a chromo frame with same pivot/linkage specs. FEA on proto #1 got the wheels spinning to use an aluminum rear as a way to minimize weight and material and maximize strength. Throw in a few beers and straight clean steel tubing front triangle turned into sweeping CF.

    We'll see how this turns out. I only have a few hours experience with SolidWorks, and it shows. No offense to all of you real CAD designers. If you could see my pencil and paper original sketch of a straight forward steel triangle frame next to this model you would probably say, as I do, "How did you get this from that?" Happy New Year everyone!
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    Just wanna share mine.

    I am too lazy to make the chain.

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    Mac User-Needs Drawing Prog Recommendations

    I'm a very experienced mac guy, with a good graphics background. Haven't done it in years though.

    Did the whole Illustrator, Quark, Photoshop thing for layout and ads. Some drawing, photo retouching, and a little bit of my own stuff with Adobe Dimensions 3.0 for line art.

    I'm wanting to design a off road vehicle for riding on with a kiteboard and am wondering if you can suggest some apps that I could use to do this?

    Now, I don't want to have reinvent the wheel. I like the looks of what you guys have done, and I envison this for more than just a pretty picture, such as using AutoCad to actually produce the project. I have no idea what I'm talking about...

    Anyway, Google Sketch, AutoCad, other? Learning curve?

    Have at'er!

    Thanks,

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    Nice projects the MiniDH and the folding chainless bike.

    And for you, SweetDoug, I think that the easiest program for 3D modelling is Rhinoceros and you get very good looking renders, but Autocad is more professional for industrial design and not so difficult than Solidworks, which is the best program for the Industry.

    Im working in a new project but for the moment its only in my mind and in a few paper sketches.

    And Im also thinking in doing again my earlier designs and getting better results.

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    No Mac Rhinos

    Just checked and it's still a better for the Mac. I'll probably try sketchup or cad.

    SD

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    Hi to everybody.

    These days, I was working in my new 3D design project, and it is almost finished, but until the "client" gives me the OK, I cannot show it to you.

    Its going to be my first 3D modelling to reality.

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    Brilliant stuff!
    As little bike as possible, as silent as possible.
    Any bike, anywhere, anytime.
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    Hello,
    I wanna make a bicycle i draw many designs but i hav no idea ab its geometry i need a good looking good performance giving rider some thing like concept on 3d design.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by margrate
    Hello,
    I wanna make a bicycle i draw many designs but i hav no idea ab its geometry i need a good looking good performance giving rider some thing like concept on 3d design.

    Thanks
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    Sorry, but I dont understand exactly what you need, can you explain it?

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    Hi again,

    Im starting two new projects while Im finishing another one.

    Im waiting for your constructive critiques.

    Kind regards,

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    Almost finished:

    Carbon Pista Frame with Lugs.
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    Thanks for all this Charlie, it's really neat to see. I don't understand the computer in the same way that you do but I can see that its an amzing tool for someone with your imagination. I hope you continue to post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-ro
    Thanks for all this Charlie, it's really neat to see. I don't understand the computer in the same way that you do but I can see that its an amzing tool for someone with your imagination. I hope you continue to post.
    jake
    You are welcome, hahaha.

    Thanks for the compliment.

    I dont know how you understand your computer, but for me, in this case is like a paper and pen 2.0.

    It allows me to get some nice pictures of what I have in my brain and Im very happy with the results.

    Im finishing a 3D modelling assignment, but as you can see, Im starting new frames, and thinking in new crazy ideas.

    Regards.

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    Carbon frame v 2.0:
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    Following advide from a guy in foromtb.com, I have modified the TT and lowered the light intensity.

    I hope you like it.
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    Handlebar and rear view:
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    Hi again,

    Im here again. New decoration and wheels, but Im going to do they again, because Im not convinced.
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    Certainly looks pretty aerodynamic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei
    Certainly looks pretty aerodynamic!
    Thanks, it really does.

    Im starting with the componentes for the bicycle.

    Im going to use a profile rim on the front instead the one it has now, so I have designed the front hub. I have to cut the axle, because its too long.
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    Front wheel almost finished:
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    Mounting the wheels on the bike. The rear one is not finished but I wanted to see how it looks.
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    Well, while I finish the current project Im starting a new one.

    This is the Charlie War Low Rider. I hope you like it.

    Greetings.
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    This is how its going :
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    There is a fine line between trying to exhibit your work in such a way that it does not get stolen, and obnoxiously plastering your water mark over your work in an extremely distracting way.
    My bikes [Fe][C]ycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgerhardt
    There is a fine line between trying to exhibit your work in such a way that it does not get stolen, and obnoxiously plastering your water mark over your work in an extremely distracting way.
    Sorry, youre right. I have to modify the watermark.

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    Well, with the modified watermark, here is the last update of the Low Rider:

    - Crankset and pedals.
    - Front tire with thread and brand (Warstone).
    - Brake discs.
    - Rim colour.
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    Rat Rod style:
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    New background and lights.
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    Sweet design!
    If Jesse Rooke built bicycles, they would look just like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    Sweet design!
    If Jesse Rooke built bicycles, they would look just like that!

    Thanks. Yes, I was inspired by one of the Rooke models.

    Here you have new images with the wheels almost finished and the dropouts:
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    Hi, this is my new wallpaper:
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    What's your thinking about how the rear wheel is driven on the chopper? Friction drive with a rubber snubber hidden in the drum/2nd bottom bracket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    What's your thinking about how the rear wheel is driven on the chopper? Friction drive with a rubber snubber hidden in the drum/2nd bottom bracket?
    No, it would be a second belt from the 2nd bottom bracket to the left side of the rear wheel.

    Inside the 2nd BB box there is a Rohloff, so it would have two cogs; one in the normal position and the 2nd one instead the brake disc fixed with 4 bolts to the Rohloff cage.

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    Two more images:
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    Well, I have decided to remove the rotors because I think that the best way to stop the bike is mounting a small rotor in the left side of the gear box, next to the cog.

    I have also changed the colour of the paint to match better with the style (red wheels and white tire side).

    From now, Im going to start modelling componentes for my next project, so Im not going to post too much untill I start with the frame.

    Greetings from The Netherlands.
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    Hi again.

    This week I have been working in a new bicycle: a hardtail titanium 29er.

    This is how its going.

    - BB30.
    - Black Cat dropouts.
    - Chris King hubs (I have to put the rear one in its place).
    - ZTR Crest rims.
    - Easton EC70 bar and EC90 seatpost.
    - Thomson Elite X4 stem.
    - White Industries SS chainset.
    ....

    I have to model the brake set (probably Hope) and the chain and pedals.

    I hope you like it.
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    Wow!!!

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    Monday update.

    I have installed the end caps, the headset and the rear hub: its a Rolhoff Speedhub, in black, to match with the bike.

    I have to model again the rear spokes.

    I have changed the headtube and the seatposttube (because it had a colour difference) .

    When I have time, I will start with the brakes, but I have decided the model: Hope Tech X2.
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    New update.

    - Rear spokes.
    - Rear disc.
    - Rims decoration.
    - QR.
    - Fork decoration.
    - Brake levers.
    - Chain.
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    My main problem is I never know how to animate chain movement.

    Do you guys know how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackspade
    My main problem is I never know how to animate chain movement.

    Do you guys know how?
    Me neither, but with Rhino its impossible.

    I think that with inventor its possible, but for the moment Im not going to try it.

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    You need to check the chain lines on the Rohloff and White cranks. The White cranks are very narrow. Pauls would be a better fit IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimT
    You need to check the chain lines on the Rohloff and White cranks. The White cranks are very narrow. Pauls would be a better fit IMHO.

    Tim
    Good to know. Thanks. I have to model the Paul crankset, but for the moment, I have almost finished the bike.
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    New colour and new fork bridge:
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    Not to nit pick but White cranks are not out board bearing cranks. Also would be nice to see how you worked out the shifting and cable routing of the Speed hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimT
    Not to nit pick but White cranks are not out board bearing cranks. Also would be nice to see how you worked out the shifting and cable routing of the Speed hub.

    Tim
    I know that, but I like the touch of the bearings cups in mango. I have to look for a nice crankset for this kind of BB set.

    The shifting is using a Tune Rolf and the cable routing is going to internal through the down tube to the BB and from there, folowing the left chainstay using cable stops designed by me.

    Its going to be a bolt attached to the frame, but the head of the bolt has two cable stops one over the other one, so if you want to use the bicycle as a SS you can remove this cable stops.

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    Well, although I have to finish some details, Im going to leave this project in stand-by.

    But first, I have rendered a few images.

    Greetings from The Netherlands.
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    Hi. As a request from a guy in the foromtb.com, I have changed the decoration of the bicycle, including paintjob and components.

    Im also learning how to model more complex surfaces by doing a new saddle for my fixies.
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    Second version of the saddle, with a different cover and the provisional rear plate (I have to do it again bigger).
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    New project in process:
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    Im diggin your designs.

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    Paint job and decoration finished. I have also finished the rear wheel.

    Greetings from The Netherlands.
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    Bullhorn...finished:
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    Well, today I have modelled the saddle (San Marco Aspide), installed the rear wheel, the handlebar and the saddle. I have to finish the stem, and start with the drive train.

    Im thinking in modifying the rear end to make it thicker and stronger, because compared to the fork, it looks very weak.

    For the front wheel, Im not sure, but I have to decide between a 4 spoke Corima, and Aerospoke or a traditional wheel with the front Chub Hub, and the H Plus Son Eero rim.
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    Hmmm, trying to imagine how I would model that bar wrapping. Pretty amazing work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookie
    Hmmm, trying to imagine how I would model that bar wrapping. Pretty amazing work.
    I have tried different things to get the way to do it. Its pretty easy but you have to follow some steps.

    I have finished the front wheel: Chub + HPlusSon, like in the rear wheel, but with 24 spokes in radial configuration instead 32 spokes with 2 crosses.

    I have also decorate the saddle a bit more with the name of the model (AspideTT).
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    This is an assignment for a Spanish framebuilder (XCLUSIVE bikes).

    I have modelled 4 frames to show to the customers the virtual results of the building.

    First of all I wanna show you the Titanium CX Frame:












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    CNC dropouts, handjob, headbadge, dropouts shields and cross-bridge (representing the brand), and paragon cable hangers.

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    LOVE the rear brake barrel mounting!!! That is so cool. How will that be manufactured??

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei
    LOVE the rear brake barrel mounting!!! That is so cool. How will that be manufactured??
    From a titanium block with a CNC machine, I guess.

    The framebuilder is making some prototypes in a 3D printer to check if everything is OK with the parts, and Im designing some new parts for him.

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    By the way, the second frame is a lugged road carbon frame:












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    Hi, again. The third frame from Xclusive is a 29er carbon frame.










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    I haven't really followed this thread much but it is very cool...how many of these designs actually turn into a real bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS
    I haven't really followed this thread much but it is very cool...how many of these designs actually turn into a real bike?
    Didn't CWD design your brown bike? Lol, just messin' wit Sasquatch!

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    Funny man..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS
    Funny man..
    I try, but usually fail. I'm buyin' you dinner some day for being such a good sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    I try, but usually fail. I'm buyin' you dinner some day for being such a good sport.
    Get me a bag of Jack Link's beef jerky and we'll call it even.


    Look at me fall for this stupid sh*t

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    That's hilerious!

    Ok, PM me your addy.

    Click the mountain bike one at the end of the one you posted, it's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    That's hilerious!

    Ok, PM me your addy.

    Click the mountain bike one at the end of the one you posted, it's funny.
    Oh man that one's hilarious I didn't even see it. I remember it on tv though, it was one of the first commercials years ago. And man, I was just kidding. I don't need you to send me anything (I would appreciate a steel 29'er SS 22" frame, though), I enjoy the funny remarks. Check out the thread I started on where people's names come from. You'll learn a bit more about the name

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS
    Oh man that one's hilarious I didn't even see it. I remember it on tv though, it was one of the first commercials years ago. And man, I was just kidding. I don't need you to send me anything (I would appreciate a steel 29'er SS 22" frame, though), I enjoy the funny remarks. Check out the thread I started on where people's names come from. You'll learn a bit more about the name
    I didn't know there were so many of those commercials. Yeah I read that thread, pretty funny.

    Just so you know, I only give people a hard time that I like, respect, admire or look up to. everyone else, I just tell to eff off.

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    Thats a really funny TV add.

    BTW, talking about 3D modelling, here you have the fourth frame I have modelled for XCLUSIVE.

    Its a mini-velo for 20" wheels, horizontal dropouts, S&S couplers, gates belt ready, integrated seat clamp...

    I think it could be a nice city bicycle for people who live in small flats or for travelling with it in the luggage...

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    Your designs look great, I like these last few paint schemes. Don't know if it matters, but you might want to offset the rear drops towards the inside for a more realistic rendering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    Your designs look great, I like these last few paint schemes. Don't know if it matters, but you might want to offset the rear drops towards the inside for a more realistic rendering.
    Sorry but I dont understand exactly what you mean, can you explain it?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlichin
    Sorry but I dont understand exactly what you mean, can you explain it?

    Thanks.
    You bet.
    The last few frames you posted have the dropouts offset to the outside of the chain/seatstays. Check out pics of bikes with drops that attach with a "hood" like those, the dropouts are all offset to the inside, that way they avoid possible chain/cog interference.
    It's a minor point for your pics I suppose, I don't know how realistic they are supposed to be or if these are all just concepts that will never actually be built.
    Either way, the pics are great....I've been thinking of adapting the green mtb on the first page to work in steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    You bet.
    The last few frames you posted have the dropouts offset to the outside of the chain/seatstays. Check out pics of bikes with drops that attach with a "hood" like those, the dropouts are all offset to the inside, that way they avoid possible chain/cog interference.
    It's a minor point for your pics I suppose, I don't know how realistic they are supposed to be or if these are all just concepts that will never actually be built.
    Either way, the pics are great....I've been thinking of adapting the green mtb on the first page to work in steel
    Ok, I know what you mean, but the last 4 frames Ive posted were an assignment from a framebuilder, here in Galicia.

    The design of the dropouts is a brand characteristic so its his design. I guess he has studied the interference with chain and cogs.

    Actually, he made some 3D prints to be sure of that.

    Thank you anyway for the advice.

    Kind regards.

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    some great models and renders on this thread. My suggestion for modeling application is PowerNurbs plugin for 3D Max

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    You make visually really good designs! How much do you think about frame geometry, measurements of the parts, aerodynamics, comfort and other issues, or do you just remodel existing bikes with your own visual ideas and part combinations?

    In other words, do you do any material science, considering strength and durability of parts? Or is just visualisation?

    Anyway, please continue posting your designs! Always nice to see them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow leopard View Post
    You make visually really good designs! How much do you think about frame geometry, measurements of the parts, aerodynamics, comfort and other issues, or do you just remodel existing bikes with your own visual ideas and part combinations?

    In other words, do you do any material science, considering strength and durability of parts? Or is just visualisation?

    Anyway, please continue posting your designs! Always nice to see them.
    First of all, thank you for your words! Its nice to receive support from you, guys.

    Normally, Im using geometries and measurements from existing bikes, but modifying some of them.
    Regarding the mechanichal design, Im trying to improve my skills about that, and Im trying to learn how to use Linkage to model an efficient FS frame.

    But for the moment, Im finishing my studies and I have no time to start any project.

    Ill let you know when I start a new frame.

    Kind regards.

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    Charlichin - These are amazing designs and renderings! Thanks for sharing.
    I'm a long time Rhino 3D user...are you using T-Splines for some of these organic details, or just nurbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiggler View Post
    Charlichin - These are amazing designs and renderings! Thanks for sharing.
    I'm a long time Rhino 3D user...are you using T-Splines for some of these organic details, or just nurbs?
    Thanks, Dirt.

    I ve just used NURBS, but lately Ive installed TSplines, and Im playing with it, so my next frame is going to be more organic.

    Kind regards,

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    Nice bikes. Post more if u have some. Im in process of making 3d model of DH bike, maybe i will post it here in next weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666Shifty View Post
    Nice bikes. Post more if u have some. Im in process of making 3d model of DH bike, maybe i will post it here in next weeks...
    Thanks for refloat the thread.

    Ive been very busy the last months with exams and reports...but Im starting with Rhino again.

    I have to practice to recover my skills, so for the moment Im modelling anoooother steel track bike.

    The frame is almost finished and I think that its going to be in this colour with black components (seatpost, stem, bars...).

    What do you think?
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    Here is a render of the dropouts. You can see the hole for a tensioning bolt; something very useful, at least, for me.
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    New paintjob for the fixie frame, and the cut in the right seatstay finished.

    Im also playing with a plugin for the Rhino to build organic shapes (such as carbon frames...), and here you can see a sample.
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    Pro-E???
    I think his models are made with Rhino, dude. Rhino is a Nurbs modeler and doesn't translate well to PRO-E. All the parts would have to be separate and you would have to rebuild somehow in an assembly. Good luck with finding the CAD work......I remember school...good ole times ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiggler View Post
    Pro-E???
    I think his models are made with Rhino, dude. Rhino is a Nurbs modeler and doesn't translate well to PRO-E. All the parts would have to be separate and you would have to rebuild somehow in an assembly. Good luck with finding the CAD work......I remember school...good ole times ; )
    Im sorry, but he is right.

    I would like to help you somehow, so please, let me know...

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    Im starting again with Rhino after some weeks doing nothing, so this is my new project. I hope to finish it.

    Columbus steel Lo Pro:
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    The Lo Pro is almost finished.

    Ive changed the seatstays design and the frame colour.

    Im going to replace the rear hub with a Phil Wood, because the Chub is a bit chunky for this kind of frame.

    The rims are Velocity Aerohead (650 front, 700 rear).

    Nitto RB021 with Nitto stem and Campy Record seatpost.

    San Marco Rolls.

    SG75....

    I hope you like it.
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    (Almost) finished!!!

    New rear hub, new handlebar (Nitto B211AA), CB Eggbeater 11 pedals...
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    Another view and a detailed pic of the crankset and pedals:
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    Gee;

    That is most impressive, and I am jealous. I would love to be able to do that, just for my own pleasure if for no other reason. Still, it is at least partially pleasing to look at yours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    Gee;

    That is most impressive, and I am jealous. I would love to be able to do that, just for my own pleasure if for no other reason. Still, it is at least partially pleasing to look at yours!
    Thanks, mate!

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    New, and more classic decoration.
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    Playing with lights, material...

    I have also modelled a Brooks Swallow (not finished yet) that fits better with the rest of the bicycle. New colour too.
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    What software do you use for the rendering? I'm using Keyshot Pro, turns out with incredibly realistic renderings

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    Im using Vray for Rhino, but if I could get better results with other sw, it would be great.

    Maybe I could use an external program importing the Rhino model.

    Any suggestions on how to do this? And what is the best rendering sw?

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    First rendering using a HDRI file applied to an spherical surface around the scenario.

    I have to try some mods to fix the strange reflections on the white background.
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    Hmmm...

    I'm not quite sure what it is, but that one looks virtually like a photograph. More so than the others. Maybe it is the background? It may break the tension of a static background and look more alive, less canned. Just not sure, but it was an immediate impression. I don't particularly like the front tire breaking the border, at least in that fashion, but the overall piece is REALLY good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    Hmmm...

    I'm not quite sure what it is, but that one looks virtually like a photograph. More so than the others. Maybe it is the background? It may break the tension of a static background and look more alive, less canned. Just not sure, but it was an immediate impression. I don't particularly like the front tire breaking the border, at least in that fashion, but the overall piece is REALLY good.
    Thanks, mate. Im really happy with my progress using HDRI.

    Im thinking about using a different background, maybe a wall or something like that...

    Lets see waht happen.

    Stay tunned...


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    Quote Originally Posted by charlichin View Post
    Im using Vray for Rhino, but if I could get better results with other sw, it would be great.

    Maybe I could use an external program importing the Rhino model.

    Any suggestions on how to do this? And what is the best rendering sw?
    I'm not that experienced with rendering software only having used Keyshot 2 Pro myself, but it is extremely simple to use, everyone I know who has tried it has stuck with it. Rendering time's are quick, materials look realistic and everything is as straight-forward as possible.
    Here's a review
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    Quality wise, the best i've seen is Bunkspeed Shot- although I use Creo/Pro Engineer which is not compatible with bunkspeed, so cant comment of its interface as I have never used it.

    Bunkspeed Steps it Up a Notch with Shot Pro [Review] - SolidSmack.com - SolidSmack.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    I'm not that experienced with rendering software only having used Keyshot 2 Pro myself, but it is extremely simple to use, everyone I know who has tried it has stuck with it. Rendering time's are quick, materials look realistic and everything is as straight-forward as possible.
    Here's a review
    KeyShot 2.0. All the Raw, Realtime Render Speed You Can Squeeze [Review] - SolidSmack.com - SolidSmack.com

    Quality wise, the best i've seen is Bunkspeed Shot- although I use Creo/Pro Engineer which is not compatible with bunkspeed, so cant comment of its interface as I have never used it.

    Bunkspeed Steps it Up a Notch with Shot Pro [Review] - SolidSmack.com - SolidSmack.com
    Keyshot looks really good. I should try it.

    Meanwhile, here you have a new rendering. Same model, same Vray configuration, same lights but different background.

    I hope you like it.
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    New project. Just starting out.
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    Is that a folding bike? I have worked on the first two prototypes to what eventually became the mezzo range of bikes possible the most difficult bike to design is a folder

    Just noticed is that a gboxx mount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ade ward View Post
    Is that a folding bike? I have worked on the first two prototypes to what eventually became the mezzo range of bikes possible the most difficult bike to design is a folder

    Just noticed is that a gboxx mount?
    I agree. You have to check eveything, opened and folded, and check it again.

    But I think its going to be a nice bike.

    And, not, its not a Gboxx mount, but something similar.

    Here you have the rear triangle, but its no finished yet.
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    Pinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ade ward View Post
    Pinion?
    Bingo!

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    I was interested in this but they were not forthcoming with any more details than on the website,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ade ward View Post
    I was interested in this but they were not forthcoming with any more details than on the website,
    You are right. I was lloking for some extra info, and its almost impossible.

    Here you have a new pic, with wheels, saddle and bars.
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    Well, as ade ward advised me, a folding bike is one of the most difficult things to design in this field.

    So, while I figure out how to solve the interference between frame and subframe the Pinion Brompton is in the fridge. This is my last model.

    I used some things from the other Brompton, but the rear end is completely new, attached to the frame from the inside, so its narrower than the original B one.

    Its for 120 mm rear hub, and, yes, its a fixed gear, but Im thinking in a front brake.
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    Well, since the fixed gear Brompton is almost finished, Im starting a new project.

    NAHBS 2012 was very inspiring for me, so here you have a teaser:
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    Charlichin -

    Great job on the designs and 3D work! I love looking at what you create. Are you and engineer or an industrial designer?

    For a render engine I would give 'Flamingo NXT' a shot: Download Current Beta - Flamingo nXt
    It's FREE right now and the results are on par with some of the best renderer's. It also integrates directly into Rhino. I've used Keyshot (which is great) and some others but prefer Flamingo NXT. If you used the old Flamingo(which was terrible) this is nothing like it. They re-coded it from the ground up.
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    Thanks for the hint. I will give it a try.

    Meanwhile...
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    You got it, buddy.

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    Im playing right now with Flamingo, but I have to learn how to use it properly.

    For the moment, Im still with VRay:
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    While I finish the cargo trike, Im starting a new project.

    New wheels for a new frame.

    Stay tuned.
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    Well, since I had a problem with the Rhino file, I had to model the wheels again.

    I also lost the frame I had modelled for using these wheels (you can see the picture and give your opinion on that).
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