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    The WISS!!!

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    Nice pictures, place looks awesome. I gotta make it out there sometime.

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    Planning a trip there next month. Are those pics a pretty good indicator of how technical most of it is?

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    Is this park in flourtown? I'm trying to estimate the distance from doylestown, but am having trouble pinpointing an ending destination. Pictures are making me want to ride that badly.

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    The Northwest terminus of the park is near Flourtown, yes. I am a Philadelphian and so this is my local ride, along with Belmont. I feel pretty lucky. C'mon down! You'll be glad you did. Only please don't run over any hikers with small children. If you can manage it, join a PMBA ride or ride with a person familiar with the trail system. The trails in the Wiss are pretty technical. The inclines/declines are no joke. There is plenty here to test an experienced rider. Not a great place to bring beginners, though. White Clay/Middle Run are better for them. If you come down for a weekend, try to bag the Wiss, Belmont, AND White Clay/Middle Run.
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    Cool, thanks, I didn't know about Belmont. I've done WC/MR a few times already, awesome fun riding. I'm going to be staying in Philly for a couple days next month so I figured I have to check out Wiss. Belmont sounds like a good lighter ride for the second afternoon if I end up a bit hungover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picassomoon
    Planning a trip there next month. Are those pics a pretty good indicator of how technical most of it is?
    They make it look a little mild IMO. The place has a wide variety of surfaces and the steep stuff is very steep but not for very long. If you can ride there all day without putting a foot down you're pretty good.

    Every spring/summer, on the first few really nice weather weekends, all of the people who only exercise or get outside once a year converge on the wiss. We may be past that stage for this year as we've moved into jersey shore season. But regardless, its best on a weekday or as early as possible on weekends.

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    What about this trail permit thing? I was filling out the online form. I figured it doesn't hurt to donate $20 to the park and get a trail map mailed to me. Is the permit supposed to be one per person riding though? Or is it a vehicle permit? Does this even get enforced? Probably riding with a friend but I was just going to buy one permit.

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    Here are a few of my Wiss photos, and what Wiss thread would be complete with an EWR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by picassomoon
    What about this trail permit thing? I was filling out the online form. I figured it doesn't hurt to donate $20 to the park and get a trail map mailed to me. Is the permit supposed to be one per person riding though? Or is it a vehicle permit? Does this even get enforced? Probably riding with a friend but I was just going to buy one permit.
    I've never been stopped and asked for a permit in 16 years. But I donate and buy one occasionally. Hell, I've only seen a ranger 2 or 3 times there.

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    Nice old school EWR. Jay, Kenn and Don would love to see that pic.

    Google Valley Green Inn. Center of the park and central to all the trails. Many other starting points that are of better interest, but that's a good location for someone new to the park.

    Check out www.phillymtb.org and hook up with them for a group ride or activity.

    Trail permit is up to you. It's per rider and you're suppose to have it on you all times. The money goes to the general park fund, so it doesn't necessarily go to the Wiss. I usually strap mine to the head tube and forget about it.

    The ranger has been out a lot more this year. On average I've seen them about 2-3 times a week, but never on the upper trails. If you're riding on Forbidden Drive, you don't need one, but then you're not really riding the Wiss if you stick to the gravel road!!

    Be wary of hikers, kids, dogs and equestrians. All the trails are multi user, but we don;t have access to all the trails. Ride early or later in the day and you won't come across too many people. Stay on the sanctioned trails and don't poach unless you know where you are. Everyone seems to have us eyeballed as a user group, so we have to be good on behavior.

    I feel spoiled to live 3 blocks from the trails and ride there multiple times a week!

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    The Wiss is cool, really cool. Went for a ride out there two weeks ago but 45 minutes in my ride my chain broke and I didn't have a spare link. A random rider who was done with his session gave me a ride back to my car, real cool dude. Always fun riding out there even though it kills me. It was nice when I lived in Mt Airy because I would coast down the street to the trails.

    I have never been asked if I had a permit before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtrostle

    I feel spoiled to live 3 blocks from the trails and ride there multiple times a week!
    The wiss makes manayunk one of the best places to live on the east coast if you're a hardcore mountain biker. Ride to those trails... go out later on main st and get some great beer and food. Hot ladies all over... I lived in manayunk in '04-05 before i got hitched. It was almost paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli
    The wiss makes manayunk one of the best places to live on the east coast if you're a hardcore mountain biker. Ride to those trails... go out later on main st and get some great beer and food. Hot ladies all over... I lived in manayunk in '04-05 before i got hitched. It was almost paradise.
    Wow, I've never heard of Manayunk being referred to as one of the best places to live on the East Coast.

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    maybe mt. airy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssc280
    Wow, I've never heard of Manayunk being referred to as one of the best places to live on the East Coast.
    If you can get a place with off street parking its pretty damn sweet. Take the wiss out of the equation and its just another over hyped, over priced, dirty, smelly, shithole

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    Has anybody noticed that large number of people that now use the Wiss as their backyard and the river as their pool? The place is becoming a trash heap, especially by devils pool.Watched some kid get pulled out of there last night, I think they actually used a helicopter to get him out. Don't know if he lived or died.

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    It's the summer and June is on track to be one of the hottest months on record. Pair that up with living in the 6th(?) largest city and everyone is going to use the Wiss as a place to cool off.

    If it was a bit more remote and Merck didn't dump all their recycled waste water up stream, I'd consider swimming there. Where I grew up that's all we did during the summer, swim in the creeks and rivers. A lot more fun than over crowded, annoying public pools!!!

    You're absolutely right about how people with no awareness trash the park. I can't count how many times I've hauled trash off the trails, early in the morning, from kids partying the night before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtrostle
    It's the summer and June is on track to be one of the hottest months on record. Pair that up with living in the 6th(?) largest city and everyone is going to use the Wiss as a place to cool off.

    If it was a bit more remote and Merck didn't dump all their recycled waste water up stream, I'd consider swimming there. Where I grew up that's all we did during the summer, swim in the creeks and rivers. A lot more fun than over crowded, annoying public pools!!!

    You're absolutely right about how people with no awareness trash the park. I can't count how many times I've hauled trash off the trails, early in the morning, from kids partying the night before.

    And as the City is broke, people no longer have access to pools, and they will start using any bit of water to cool off.

    On a side note, anybody have any idea on the new trails being cut at the Wiss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    On a side note, anybody have any idea on the new trails being cut at the Wiss?
    Which ones? A lot of work going on in there this summer. If they're sanctioned sure, we can talk. If they're not, we can chat offline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picassomoon
    Cool, thanks, I didn't know about Belmont. I've done WC/MR a few times already, awesome fun riding. I'm going to be staying in Philly for a couple days next month so I figured I have to check out Wiss. Belmont sounds like a good lighter ride for the second afternoon if I end up a bit hungover.
    Belmont is not exactly a place to get a light ride in. It is tight, relentless, hot, and challenging. Different than the Wiss, but no less of an arse-whooping
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    what time do you ride?

    hey marc,
    what time do you ride and where do you start. i would like to tag along and get some pointers whenever i get my fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtrostle
    Which ones? A lot of work going on in there this summer. If they're sanctioned sure, we can talk. If they're not, we can chat offline.
    Actually, I don't know if they are sanctioned or not but they look official. For example, on the roxborough side of the park (side opposite the chief), when you are near the end (away from the valley green), by the over head bridge, there is a new trail being cut that has a trail closed sign on it. The trail looks like it could be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus
    there is a new trail being cut that has a trail closed sign on it. The trail looks like it could be interesting.
    That's by the golf course climb, close to Lincoln Drive. That's legal but not officially open, yet. They're rerouting the trail, to avoid the carved out gully towards the bottom. It's not sustainable and has been an issue for some time.

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    I plan on checking out Wiss, but I just have one question, I will be riding solo and was wondering if I have to worry about my safety up there, you know woodsmen and bears.

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    No bears but the deer may stand right in the middle of the trail and not even run away from you. Just watch your cornhole. Some creepy looking dude propositioned me back in the spring. He was in his late 40's-early 50's and had an Ellsworth.

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    don't be a scared

    no woodsmen. no bears.
    just yell at the deer and watch out for the few downed trees.

    92gli, i think the guy was just admiring your bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by guswalls
    92gli, i think the guy was just admiring your bike
    Maybe. But we didn't need to go to the "cool secluded spot" he wanted to show me for that.

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    Yeah just watch out for the weirdos out on the trail from time to time.

    A couple years ago me and my girlfriend we running on the trail. The bottom section that is basically all flat. So were jogging and in the opposite direction their is a guy riding a moped with a girl on the back. Behind us there was a guy riding a mtb minding his own business. The bottom path is probably 15-17' wide I would imagine. Well this axxhole on the moped crashes right into me and the MTB rider on this wide ass path. I managed to push my girl into the fence before we collided into each other, so she was fine. Well I get off the ground and immediately notice beer cans. This lowlife was drunk flying on the path with an illegal motorized vehicle. He was busted up, but the girl behind him got it worst. She was dizzy and leaking blood from her head, probably had a concussion. I was going to call ambulance but they refused, because they were probably drunk and obviously illegally on the trail. The mtb rider had a broken collar bone, but he didn't want a ambulance so we walked him back to his car where his wife meet us. He was a real nice guy. Fortunately I didn't break anything when they slammed into me, just bruised and sore. If my girl was injuried I probably would of went nuts, good thing that didn't happen.....

    Just keep your eyes open out there.

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