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    Nockamixon Winter 2015 Conditions

    Has anyone been here within the last few days? Wondering if it's icy or crusty snow. It's about a 45 minute drive for me so I don't want to show up and find out it's iced over.

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    It believe that the trails are currently closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    It believe that the trails are currently closed.
    This was posted on FB on Dec. 11:

    NOX is CLOSED! Keep it classy and head towards the shore.

    After the recent weather systems we regret to announce the official closure of the trail system at NOX. The trail surface is now compromised and unable to withstand use. Your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated. This closure is in effect until further notice.
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    I haven't seen anything since. That's all I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManBike View Post
    This was posted on FB on Dec. 11:



    I haven't seen anything since. That's all I know.
    Thanks and I would hope everyone can honor the closure and keep the trails in good shape for the summer season!
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    Riding on snow/ice covered trails damages them?
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    I'm gonna head down Sunday morning unless I hear otherwise. If it is snow and ice, I'm riding. I know the drill, I don't think that will be frowned upon.

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    Update: just saw this pic on Facebook, it is from today. Doesn't look muddy.

    2nd update: the rider (a local pro) said conditions are "perfect". Sweet


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    Thank you very much.
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    Hiked Cold Spot / Hammer last Sunday. Those trails seemed nicely packed down and frozen with no sloppy spots.
    Seen about 4 Fatty's and 1/2 dozen other riders all of which reported conditions as being very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshhan View Post
    Riding on snow/ice covered trails damages them?
    Well, if it hits 55 on Sunday and get mushy, I would not ride it. I think everybody knows that when it gets warm in the winter, that is when everyone hits the trails and does damage.

    At the same time, if the trail is closed, regardless of what you think, what gives you the right to ride it? Not trying to be a dck but am just wondering what the thought process is.
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    You're right. I'm sorry. I won't ride since the trail is closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshhan View Post
    You're right. I'm sorry. I won't ride since the trail is closed.
    wink, wink.

    Vespasianus, they close the trails cuz of the people who don't know/don't care about when to ride and when to not ride.

    Hard pack snow that is still frozen at 8 am in 20 degrees is different from riding in the afternoon after a sunny day in the 40's.

    Pretty sure Kenny won't scold me for that.

    Also also, where does it say the trails are closed? The website doesn't say that, and I don't remember a FB update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    wink, wink.

    Vespasianus, they close the trails cuz of the people who don't know/don't care about when to ride and when to not ride.

    Hard pack snow that is still frozen at 8 am in 20 degrees is different from riding in the afternoon after a sunny day in the 40's.

    Pretty sure Kenny won't scold me for that.

    Also also, where does it say the trails are closed? The website doesn't say that, and I don't remember a FB update.
    I think it was on there Facebook page. But, with that said, I am not saying not to ride it. People will do what people will do and I am not one to throw stones as I live in a glass house!

    I do think that Nox would be a great place to ride when it is 20-30 degrees out with 1-2 inches of snow. That actually sounds perfect to me!

    My question is what is the thought process that goes into riding a trail that is officially closed. More of a philosophical question and not meant to judge in any way.
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    Gotcha. I interpret it as "officially closed if it is just dirt/mud". But if there's a protective layer of lots of snow and ice, I'm gonna ride, as it was initially closed due to concerns of freezing and thawing and mud and drainage and ruts.

    I get the official closing. It keeps order in place. But for people who know when to ride and not ride at Nox, if erring on the safe side, I think it's ok.

    Tomorrow it looks like it's gonna warm up, so I'm going to get there at about 7:30 or so to start my ride to get out before it gets slushy, as I don't know how much snow is covering before there is dirt/mud.

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    I would never ride a closed trail but my evil twin brother did. He said conditions today (02/07/2015) were perfect for fat bike riding. Encountered some guys on "regular" bikes who were pushing their bikes in the softer snow sections. Also saw one person jogging, one person in shoe shoes walking their dogs and one hunter with a dog. Were any of them leashed? Hmmm. He wouldn't say.

    No mud, exposed dirt was frozen. Some icy spots. Everything else was nicely covered in snow.

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    I agree with everything Jared said. I would imagine the closure of the trail was in December when it was unusually wet and the DIRT surface was being compromised. When covered with snow, I can't imagine banning people from enjoying the trails. Plus it seems a lot colder up there than say, the Wiss in Philly.
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    Here right now. I stopped to say, if you are able, come ride as early as possible today before we get the ice tonight cuz conditions are PERFECT for fatbiking!

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    Counted 7 cyclists this morning including myself. 4 on fatbikes! Right as I came upon Kenny and company working, two guys on an Ice Cream Truck and a Pug passed the other way, the. Later I saw a dude on a Farley.

    Big difference from years past- all the fatbikers now are grooming the trails for the next riders, good stuff!

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    That's awesome. I didn't see any fatbikes yesterday.
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    Every time I had to stop and gingerly walk across the frozen streams (just getting over a badly sprained ankle so I was super cautious) it made me really excited for my studded tires. I ordered some Vee Snowshoe XL's from Cutters and then 500 studs off a dude on Facebook. I am going to just sit at my desk at work this week and stud away.

    I like the snow covered tikis. Strange combination

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    wow there is a ton more snow there than down in philly. pretty cool looks like solid riding. yesterday never got quite as warm as they were saying in the N & W burbs. Nox is way N burb

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    Rode this morning, started at 8, conditions were better than last sunday! Much less ice, snow was more packed. I imagine conditions will change fast so i can't guarantee this statement for longer than a day lol. As before, if the temp climbs into the high 30's it will get sloppy fast.

    Saw three fatbikers getting ready to ride as I left. Its becoming the "place for fatbikers when you don't want to ride snowmobile trails" I think.

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    Haha, I so wished I lived closer...

    More snow expected this weekend, should make things interesting.
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    Hmmm I've been trying to figure out where to ride Sunday, maybe this is far enough north.
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    There are several areas available to ride,White Clay Creek De,Brandywine State Park De,Elk Neck State Park Md,Pine Barrens Nj,all dirt all good!

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    Anybody got a current update? Traveling south from NY to Harrisburg. I'd love to throw the fatty in the truck. But, I don't know if you just got rain, snow, what? Or what was already still on the ground.

    Please advise. Thanks in advance.

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    huffster, check RideNox on Facebook.
    don't tell me, "Show Me " !

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    Quote Originally Posted by huffster View Post
    Anybody got a current update? Traveling south from NY to Harrisburg. I'd love to throw the fatty in the truck. But, I don't know if you just got rain, snow, what? Or what was already still on the ground.

    Please advise. Thanks in advance.
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    Rode it Saturday 3/1/15 Icy cupped trail with soft sides great if ya stay in the middle and very fast... saw a few fats there no skinnys...

    ...I think it will all change now to a mess with the rain coming.

    Thanks to all who prerode and walked it made it ice... I mean NICE!

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    Thanks for the updates, but of course, I am here now in the freezing rain. So, didn't bring the bike. I did manage to get a snow ride in back home before leaving (and pre-storm). So, all was not lost for the day. I will probably be back in the Spring -- definitely want to try Nox at some point.

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    Update: was unpacked today since the snow Thursday, except for one skier and a hiker. I followed 3 other fatbikers and made somewhat of a packed trail, but only packed enough for fatbikes. Put your foot down and you sink 5 inches below our pack. We only made it as far as the closest loop to the Tower Rd lot, about 5 miles, but at least two other hero fatbikers soldiered on. Conditions will likely change daily but I would stay away for a little if not on fatbike. Hopefully it'll return to that packed snow that all kinds of bikes could ride like a month ago. On the other hand, since its warmer now it might soon become time to stay away for a while.

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    Yep, it's looking like time to stay away. Temps are gonna be into the 50s this week, probably with rain too, and little or no freezing overnight ... gonna be a mess for a while. But it looks like Spring's here!

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    Yeah actually later on after I posted that I saw the temps are gonna be close to 50 this week. It's probably time to quit Nox for...a few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    It's probably time to quit Nox for...a few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Yeah actually later on after I posted that I saw the temps are gonna be close to 50 this week. It's probably time to quit Nox for...a few months.
    It's such a great place!

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    Seen posted on RideNox FB page, Nox is OPEN !
    don't tell me, "Show Me " !

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    Thanks for the info!

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    Yup, I hit it this morning and conditions were great. The usual wet spots but otherwise, good.
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    Currently closed because of the heavy rain we had today.

    FB: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Riden...139387?fref=nf

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    Just posted today on facebook that they're open again
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    Freaking crowded!

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    Well, it's not winter but the conditions @ Nox were darn near perfect today 8-22-15 !
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