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    Mountain Lion siting in Jim Thorpe....

    Just heard from a riding buddy who rode with a guy in Jim Thorpe last weekend who told him he saw a 6 foot mountain lion cross the road near the mauch chunk lake dam just off the switch back trail. Anybody out there seen or heard of mountain lions in the Northeast Pa area? Thx.

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    Nittany Lion

    Possibly the Nittany Lion......http://www.psu.edu/ur/about/nittany.html...Next time you race or ride through play his theme song and he'll do flips and hooray for you and your team's bike

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffSkisMontana
    Just heard from a riding buddy who rode with a guy in Jim Thorpe last weekend who told him he saw a 6 foot mountain lion cross the road near the mauch chunk lake dam just off the switch back trail. Anybody out there seen or heard of mountain lions in the Northeast Pa area? Thx.

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    I saw one while hunting with my dad in the water gap area years and years (like 20+) ago. I remember that there was some kind of controversy over whether or not they still inhabitated the area about 10 years ago. My guess is that there's a few but they're just so secretive that you never see them.

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    I live in Northeastern PA and we have them all the time. The papers regularly show pictures and quite a few people have spotted them. No doubts for me that they are still here.

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    SC PA too...

    While snowshoeing in Blue Knob SP several years ago we tracked one's steps for a few miles. Until we saw the paw prints double. Obviously, we were not following it, so much as it was following us. Snapped a few pics showing the size of the paw prints relative to our hands. A pic of where the cat raked the bark off of the tree, with me a 6'1" standing next to the tree. Got the heck out of there. Showed the ranger on duty. He thought we smoking something. Showed my fatehr-in-law, who grew up in that country. He knew. I knew. They're still out there. Not many, but they're out there. WV Highlands have a few as well, regardless of what the government says. I'd love to see one (from a safe distance, that is).
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    I wouldn't be surprised if they're around. Folks see 'em in Michigan all the time. The MI DNR admits they're there, even. I know a guy in Ohio who has a friend who got a pic of one on one of those motion-sensing wildlife cameras.

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    twice on the same road

    I have seen some type of cat on the same fireroad twice in north cental pa. Once driving with my wife in the jeep, she said it had a tail and was not a bobcat. The second time I was riding with a buddy and it ran accross the road and I pulled out my camera and snapped a picture. I did not know if i even got it. When I got home I downlaoded the picture and searched the woods and brush to see if i could fid it. See the picture and what looks like to be the face of a cat. I'm not sure how the picture will be I had to reduce it in size.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they're around. Folks see 'em in Michigan all the time. The MI DNR admits they're there, even. I know a guy in Ohio who has a friend who got a pic of one on one of those motion-sensing wildlife cameras.

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    Hmm, I'm not sure I see much there. Looks like the pic was probably resized on the forum. Is it possible for you to crop the image in some editing software? The feature you're pointing to could well be a shadow for all I can tell.

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    Looks like it to me............

    I would say you did catch it on the picture. Jumped into woods and hid.

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    I'm trying to get a better picture

    I want to try to post a better picture if I can figure out how to redude the size and keep the resoultion up. You can see it allot better at its original size.

    See how this picture looks. You can see the face and the body turned to the left of the picture.

    I took this picture "from the hip" I pulled my camera out, opened the lens cover which turns the camera on, pointed the camera in the direction the cat went and snapped a shot.

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    I would say you did catch it on the picture. Jumped into woods and hid.
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    I think I see it now. All those ferns give good cover and it's hard to pick out a definite shape. I see the top line of the body better than I see the face, though.

    Here's a pic of the mt. lion I saw in Utah. I had to doctor the photo a bit in photoshop, too. They're some sneaky buggers.
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    Damn nice picture

    That's a lion alright. They are here, although I've never been lucky enough to see one, I've seen signs of them. I've also run into two bobcats since I stated mountain biking in the mid ninties. Awesome creatures.
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    Mountain Lion on Taconic Parkway in New York

    I travel between Wilkes Barre and Boston on a regular basis.....thursday ...I saw a Mountain Lion along the Taconic Parkway in New York....broad daylight...just getting ready to cross road...saw my car and spun around and took off.....really cool....reported it to New York Game and Wildlife officials.
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    I have seen some type of cat on the same fireroad twice in north cental pa
    Where at?? Mt. Gretna??

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    Just talked with a spray-helicopter pilot yesterday who saw one just outside of Danville near the old car auction site. Circled around slowly to be sure and watched it sneak off into a fence row.

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    bobcat

    these are bobcat sightings... no mountain lions in NE or MidAtlantic USA anymore... Habitat is recovering and its possible the lions could re-establish certain areas of PA.. but you need a breeding stock to get things started and there would be unbelievable resistance from uninformed people (like deer hunters who don't want competition) to jump start reintroduction through our 'buddies' at the game dept... ...

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    I have heard of sightings of Mountain Lions in the "Pocono" area as of late... but I hear DCNR says there NOT here..

    Bobcats, Yes, Bullitboy and I were riding Camelback(Big Pocono) out in the "blocks" last fall and saw one around dusk. Lurking under some pines. Split second and it was gone.

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    i saw a giraffe once..............................oh wait that was at the zoo

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    We do need Mountain Lions in PA, especially in the suburbs where hunting isn't allowed and the deer population is out of control. Would solve that problem if you just didn't have to worry about some lion snatching some kid.

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    I spotted one two seasons ago in the Ranson Twp. area. I reported it here because it was fairly large and didn't want anyone getting hurt or caught off guard. I got a bunch of ***** for it.
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    Few years back there was one shot and killed in chicago. If that happened i am sure there is a good chance there could be some in PA/

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    It seems like this debate comes up in various circles from time to time. It interests me, I think it's possible that there are parts of PA where they could be around, in theory...

    But, no one has ever, as far as I know, produced concrete evidence of it. Which, personally, makes me skeptical. For example, if someone really had a pic of one on a trail cam -- which hunting and trail cams are prolific in PA -- they could show that the pic was in fact from a certain spot in PA (i.e. by showing other photos from the same spot and by bringing the DNRC or game commission to the spot) and they would have a date stamped photo of a mt lion from that spot. I've never seen one.

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    Exactly Mike. There is simply ZERO evidence . either primary (captured) or secondary (photo, paw print, scat, tuft of fur etc aside from stoned mtn bikers making visual claims ... PA has a great history of reintroducing expirated species such as bobcat, otter, fisher, elk etc.. it can (and should) be done.. but the fact remain, the public is NOT pushing for it and the state game dept is not qualified nor motivated to initiate the process of introducing a big game predator... its a very expensive proposition... with minimal success rate.... recent attempts at Lynx (SW Co) and wolf (SW NM) have been plagued by high death rates and high costs.... nature will eventually take its course and do the job for us... heck, there is confirmed evidience of mountain lions migrating to the eastern plains of WY/CO and even into KS and NE... they follow river corriders and seek out new territory.. problem is how far they have to travel to re-establish in PA... NOT gonna happen in our lifetime...

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    Yeah that pick up top isnt a mtn lion looks like a bobcat theres a bunch of those around.Unless you have some pics of a mtn lion your smoking something.There hasnt been any around for awhile hence no pics or no hillbilly shooting one.If there was one my guess would be up around somewhere remote like potter county.But there isnt so stop eating the mushrooms while riding.

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    The following should not be construed as me having an opinion either way on the widespread existence of mountain lions on the east coast . I just happened to see this article on CNN which is clearly factual

    Mountain lion killed by car on Connecticut highway

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    Okay time to link the funniest thread I've ever started (or read here)

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...light=panthers

    Because I saw this on TV that documented Panthers in Pennsylvania and New York--now they found a large Bobcat in Connectucut...

    I have ridden in Maryland, Delaware and throughout Central and Southeastern Pa., and last year I did see something running through the woods that looked like a bobcat (now I know I need glasses) but it was grey, the length of very long dog with a long slim tail....---So I know they are probably still here---We do have 'Penn State' Nittany Lions and 'Pittsburg' Panther's here in Pa. --So if the 2 biggest schools are named after these things, chances are some are still around!

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    yep....

    .....I did see a mountain lion on the Taconic parkway.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/11/con...ss_igoogle_cnn
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    Quote Originally Posted by schneidw View Post
    these are bobcat sightings... no mountain lions in NE or MidAtlantic USA anymore...
    I was hiking in the Adirondaks a few years ago with friends and we caught up with 2 wardens (with guns) going out to an outpost. We walked with them for a while and asked them about Mountain Lions. They said they are DEFINITELY in there, they just won't officially say it.
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    nice!

    The Taconic is right inbetween South Dakota and Conn!

    http://www.timesleader.com/news/Moun...S-Dakota-.html

    I believe you Jeff.

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    I too drank the Game Commission's Koolaid about no BIG cats in PA until I almost stepped on one while hunting SGL90 in Clearfield County about 10 years ago. It was maybe 70-90 lbs and gray in color, but was no way a bobcat or lynx.

    They are out there... just rarely seen.
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    I was with my father on our property about 10 miles north of williamsport PA and we watched one in our feeld one morning for about 15 min. This was after the Game commission said there were no big cats in PA. I am 100% certain there are. I have seen many bobcats too, believe me there is a big difference. If you get a good look, you are not questioning what you see.

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    I have seen Bobcats in the wild while hunting in Pa,Maine and Virginia.On the large side of the average there is no mistaking a Bobcat for a Mountain lion,and I dont think think any adult would feel threatened by one in the wild any more than they would a Fox. The game Commission denied coyote for years,a freind of mine who traps caught one in the flat almost treeless Lancaster county farmland about 8 yrs ago,maybe it was just passing through.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by schneidw View Post
    these are bobcat sightings... no mountain lions in NE or MidAtlantic USA anymore... Habitat is recovering and its possible the lions could re-establish certain areas of PA.. but you need a breeding stock to get things started and there would be unbelievable resistance from uninformed people (like deer hunters who don't want competition) to jump start reintroduction through our 'buddies' at the game dept... ...

    There are definately big cats in PA. I have seen a bobcat in the Nescopeck state park, a friend of mind just last week captured a "Mountain lion" on a game cam. I will have him e-mail me the pics and I will post em.
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    I ran across a story of a mountain lion that unfortunately was killed by a car in Connecticut. The cool part is that this animal was from South Dakota according to having similar DNA to pumas in that state. Its DNA from hair, blood and droppings were found in Minnesota and Wisconsin .

    This animal traveled from South Dakota to Connecticut and could have wandered through PA or NY. It still has its claws so it probably wasn't a captive animal.


    https://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/27/co...mountain.lion/


    <img src="https://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/US/07/27/connecticut.mountain.lion/t1larg.mountain.lion.ct.gov.jpg">

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    That's crazy, Dakota to CT...unbelievable range!!

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    Thanks.....

    Quote Originally Posted by aizu1 View Post
    The Taconic is right inbetween South Dakota and Conn!

    http://www.timesleader.com/news/Moun...S-Dakota-.html

    I believe you Jeff.
    ....for posting the link to this article....amazing range.....will pass this along on the New York boards...hope all is well in Austria. RIde On!
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    Here's the proof

    Taken from a friends game cam..right here in PENNSYLVANIA
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    Nice Work...

    JKAD....Excellent!....they exist for sure.....Thx for the post!
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    Taken from a friends game cam..right here in PENNSYLVANIA
    Where at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 247 View Post
    Where at?
    Looks like in the woods.

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    I don't buy it. One would have been trapped by now. The animal in that photo is probably a bobcat. Bobcats can get pretty big, and their spots are not always very pronounced.

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    Near williamsoprt.

    Looks like chicken..taste like chicken..Must be a Chicken!
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    Looks like it has a stubby tail,therefore it would be a Bobcat, but its hard to tell in the pic,great pic though ,thanks for sharing
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    Smile Nittany Lion...

    .....we have a Nittany Lion in our front yard....our "cat" decided to rest there....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArocks View Post
    I have seen Bobcats in the wild while hunting in Pa,Maine and Virginia.On the large side of the average there is no mistaking a Bobcat for a Mountain lion,and I dont think think any adult would feel threatened by one in the wild any more than they would a Fox. The game Commission denied coyote for years,a freind of mine who traps caught one in the flat almost treeless Lancaster county farmland about 8 yrs ago,maybe it was just passing through.....
    Coyotes can not be disputed, I've seen dozens of those in person, they've been around for decades. Never any mountain lions.

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    Mountain Lion Reported In Drexel Hill

    It will be interesting to follow this story....Drexel Hill sighting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koval79 View Post
    I don't buy it. One would have been trapped by now. The animal in that photo is probably a bobcat. Bobcats can get pretty big, and their spots are not always very pronounced.


    Mt. lions are so elusive that you could walk 5 feet away from one and never even see it. A co-worker of mine recently talked to a game commission officer about the whole mt. lions in PA thing and the officer said that they don't exist and you can't shoot them because they are protected. BUT, he also said, if you do see one and feel threatened you may legally shoot one. Interesting.

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    Think about the number of hunters and fisherman in the woods year round all over the state i think if there was a big cat there would be a big print somewhere.Ive seen just about every kind of tracks near water while fly fishing.The mtn lion is big enough it will leave its paw prints somewhere if its here, once again no tracks no cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poconopitbull View Post
    I have heard of sightings of Mountain Lions in the "Pocono" area as of late... but I hear DCNR says there NOT here..

    Bobcats, Yes, Bullitboy and I were riding Camelback(Big Pocono) out in the "blocks" last fall and saw one around dusk. Lurking under some pines. Split second and it was gone.
    DCNR has been saying this for some time, and every year I hear more stories of people running into them. I came across one of these suckers near Mt.Cobb while camping near some power-line trails. Trust me, it wasn't a Bobcat.
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