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    Good job! Jake's Rocks Epic Trail System

    Nice to wake up to this! Getting closer and closer.....can't wait to start moving some dirt!


    Trails Near Approval
    PKP project achieves milestone
    April 14, 2015
    By ROB ANDERSEN ([email protected]) , Times Observer
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    Years of hard work on a mountain bike trail system above the Kinzua arm of the Allegheny Reservoir appears to be finally bearing fruit.

    Joe Colosimo of Pennsylvania Kinzua Pathways said on Monday, "The comment period is officially over, which is really exciting. However, we still need the final report on the Heritage study. We expect to have full approval by mid-May at the latest. That will give us the green light to prepare for construction. It will also mark the end of a very long (six-plus) years of work by PKP in bringing this from concept to the doorstep of reality."

    He said that in addition to local foundations and corporations, partnerships for the project include the Allegheny National Forest, the Warren County Chamber of Business and Industry's fiscal agent, the Warren County Development Association, Pennsylvania Wilds, the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, the University of Pittsburgh at Bradford, Clarion University and Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
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    A beautiful trail
    There are fabulous walking trails in several areas around the Allegheny Reservoir, including this one at Jakes Rocks. A great deal of progress has been made to establish miles of moutain bike trails along the same hilltop and hillside. The trails will be suitable for everyone, from beginners and leisure family riders to experts.

    When the comment, or objection, period ends on a weekend, the period is extended to the next business day, according to Ruth Sutton, public affairs officer for the Allegheny National Forest. She added that there were actually three comment periods.

    The first comment period (the scoping period) occurred between April and May 2014. The scoping period allowed the public to provide early input on the purpose and need for the project, details of the proposed trail, and potential environmental concerns.

    The second comment period, or Environmental Assessment, occurred between November and December 2014. It allowed the public to review the completed analysis and the proposed finding that the project would not have a significant impact on the environment. The most recent 45-day comment period allows the public to seek higher level review of any unresolved concerns before a decision is signed. Those are federal requirements, according to Sutton.

    "In other words, the public may identify concerns with our analysis, draft finding of no significant impact, or draft decision, and have the Eastern Regional Office review the project," Sutton said. "The Regional Forester will then be responsible for reviewing the objections received, and our project file, after which the objections could either be dismissed or we could be instructed to complete additional work. The objection period ends today, and we're not aware of any objections being filed. If an objection is filed, the review process could take 45 days to complete."

    "For this project, the 45th day was Saturday, April 11, (so it closed Monday). Any objections for this project would be sent to the Regional Forester in Milwaukee, WI," she added.

    In a letter dated Feb. 24, ANF Forest Supervisor Sherry Tune wrote to interested parties, "After consideration of the comments received, it is my intent to implement the Proposed Action."

    "The Heritage study is a part of the overall assessment that is required to be completed relative to the area of the ANF that will be involved and impacted by the project," Jim Decker, WCCBI's executive director, said. "It is an assessment that looks at the historical activities within the area so as to ensure that no historically significant features within the project area are impacted by the project construction or use. These are typical assessments required for all projects on federally owned lands."

    Sutton noted that the Heritage field study was completed last year, and a report that summarizes the findings and provides recommendations to protect any known or newly-discovered heritage resources will be reviewed by the Pennsylvania State Historic Preservation Office.

    Relative to the Trails at Jakes Rocks project itself, a contract has been awarded to Kay-Linn, LLC for the development of detailed trail system construction specifications and for the securing of necessary construction permits for the project. Kay-Linn staff will be at the project site from May 3 through 11 working in collaboration with the Forest Service, ANF and Warren County Conservation district personnel to begin this work, Decker said.

    A primary focus of their work will be determining the appropriate means for crossing any streams or wetland areas on the trail system. These elements have been identified and located as a part of the Environmental Assessment field work completed by University of Pittsburgh- Bradford students, but specific construction techniques and details must be defined to support project construction permitting.

    "Upon completion of the construction specifications, Requests For Proposals will be published for construction of the initial section of trails which we remain confident will be completed by winter 2015. Additional funding is required to complete the construction of the 43-mile trail system with work continuing to identify and secure both public and private sector resources which can be secured for the project," Decker said.

    The trail will run for 46.2 miles, 99 percent of which will be on the ANF. The first phase will be 17 miles.

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    Great thread...

    ...and info, hope to make it out to see the elk at Cameron County and hit this new trail system this summer!

    Thanks to all who worked hard to get this up and running

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    I'm going to keep this thread going with updates and such as things progress. I kind of started into it in the Bradford thread, but it really should have it's own....so here it is!

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    I can't wait. I'll be able to ride out of my camp and hit these trails. Would love to pitch in and help sometime I'm up at camp.

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    I'll keep you posted!

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    Gotta love the way the press release doesn't mention mountain bikers or NAMBA at all.

    And my faith in their 'public comments' process was pretty much sunk when they declared so many trails closed to mountain bikes despite those comments.

    Hope they manage to actually build single track there. I am not counting my chickens before they're hatched though.

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    The last forest revision really shut down a bunch of trails. Tracy Ridge and Minister were big ones. Morrison, Hearts Content, Tanbark and of course the fire roads and ATV trails are still open.

    I know what you mean though. We're all hopeful this goes through. I don't love NAMBA not getting any press with this, but I also know why. It's not something that I feel is appropriate to discuss here though.

    I do know that PKP has at least half the funding already in place(some may be promised) for the construction. I also know they're very excited about the whole project and really are working hard to make sure it happens. The ANF is excited about it too. I imagine both of those tie into $$$, but they're on board with it nonetheless. The local community is interested even though it's not really a big thing here....again, I think as whole they see the $$$. This area being all about 'tourism' is the driving factor and Raystown is likely the biggest reason it's happening here. The success there kind of makes it a no-brainer in that regard.

    That said, a whole lot of projects around here seem to just fall off the face of the earth for no reason at all so I'm cautiously optimistic as well. This has been in the making now for a very long time....started in 2009, I belive. We've made it to the final stage before the dirt starts moving.....it would be a total shock if it just dies now. I think and hope there's way too much invested and way too many parties invested for that to happen at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Garden View Post
    The last forest revision really shut down a bunch of trails. Tracy Ridge and Minister were big ones. Morrison, Hearts Content, Tanbark and of course the fire roads and ATV trails are still open.

    I know what you mean though. We're all hopeful this goes through. I don't love NAMBA not getting any press with this, but I also know why. It's not something that I feel is appropriate to discuss here though.

    I do know that PKP has at least half the funding already in place(some may be promised) for the construction. I also know they're very excited about the whole project and really are working hard to make sure it happens. The ANF is excited about it too. I imagine both of those tie into $$$, but they're on board with it nonetheless. The local community is interested even though it's not really a big thing here....again, I think as whole they see the $$$. This area being all about 'tourism' is the driving factor and Raystown is likely the biggest reason it's happening here. The success there kind of makes it a no-brainer in that regard.

    That said, a whole lot of projects around here seem to just fall off the face of the earth for no reason at all so I'm cautiously optimistic as well. This has been in the making now for a very long time....started in 2009, I belive. We've made it to the final stage before the dirt starts moving.....it would be a total shock if it just dies now. I think and hope there's way too much invested and way too many parties invested for that to happen at this point.
    All good points. I have my fingers crossed.

    And if it works out no one will be happier than me to come over and ride the trails!!!

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    Warren Gives

    If anyone would care to donate to the trail system please follow the link above and select Pennsylvania Kinzua Pathways. The PKP is using all donations to add to the build budget.

    Thanks!

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    that ANF is some really remote stuff form what I have read. would love to get up there one day and check it out

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    Some of it is. Some of it stays pretty close to the truck. I suppose it depends on how you define remote. Morrison Trail is probably the most remote....it's a loop, but starts at the road and loops down to Kinzua and back....not much for bail-out points in between.

    Tracy Ridge is the same type as Morrison....but we can't ride it anymore!

    Hearts Content is a short 5-6 mile loop, but it's all fairly close to the truck. Tanbark isn't far from a road at any point really.

    Now, if you mean the whole area in general....then yes, it's pretty remote.

    The new trails will be about 15 minutes in the truck from Warren....and I can bike to them in about an hour on mostly dirt roads. Probably around 45 minutes if I take the hard road.

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    Its hard to get excited about this, they have been going to break ground every fall/spring for 3 years now. This is a contractor built trail with a huge shortfall in funds, its not a bunch of volunteers ready to build on the word go. This spring they were going to break ground again and all they are doing is discussing how to cross wet areas... something you would think had been figured out back in 2008. Its easily another 10-15 years off based on every other project the USFS service has been involved in locally.

    If anyone has $2 million laying around, please donate.

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    I don't know, I'm pretty excited about it. I understand the frustration though. Absolutely nothing the government is involved in goes quickly.

    I wish I had an update, but there's nothing to update. I know 'they' did the construction assessment a month ago....haven't heard a peep about it otherwise though.

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    Well they are pretty fast about allowing well locations and roads to get put in.
    And how about that agent orange stuff they can spend money on? But no money for recreation. I really do hope the golden egg omni-bus thing happens, but MTBing on the ANF singletrack trails remain largely an illegal act.
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    Mid June update from the USFS:
    " I just finished a conference call with Scott Linnenburger and Jeremy Wimpey of Kay-Linn, Inc. the contractors who are working on the Jakes Rocks MBT. Yes, they did visit in late April and most of May and have developed contract specifications for most of Phase I. They are finalizing water crossing plans for DEP stream/water crossing permits. They expect the DEP permitting process to continue through the rest of this summer and hope to have permits in hand by this fall. They hope to have a contractor in place and begin construction this fall. Of course, everything depends on DEP permits."

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    Just this morning...

    Major Hurdle Cleared
    Study concludes mountain bike trails and bats able to co-exist
    July 22, 2015
    By BRIAN FERRY ([email protected]) , Times Observer
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    There are still some steps to take, but one of the major sticking points along the path to building mountain bike trails at Jakes Rocks is out of the way.

    Through six years of planning for The Trails at Jakes Rocks: Experience Mountain Biking in the Allegheny National Forest, there have been many agencies involved, each with its own particular interests to address.

    Among other things, those agencies looked at the plants, animals, and cultural heritage in the area of the proposed 30 to 40 miles of mountain bicycling trails . The northern long-eared bat (NLEB), a species listed as threatened by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service largely because of white-nose syndrome, is present in the area of the project and is of interest in this case. White-nose syndrome is a fungal disease that has devastated many bat populations, according to a Fish and Wildlife press release.

    In a July 8 Biological Opinion, "the Service concurs that these projects are not likely to adversely affect the NLEB." The Trails at Jakes Rocks is one of several ongoing projects included in the opinion.

    With that environmental concern laid at ease, the Allegheny National Forest is ready to sign off.

    "This is obviously a huge milestone," PKP's Joe Colosimo said Tuesday. "It was the last major hurdle."

    The only remaining steps to complete before construction can begin are the state Department of Environmental Protection permitting and sending out requests for proposals to construct the trails, Colosimo said.

    ANF Public Affairs Officer Ruth Sutton "is working on a plan for a signing ceremony," Natural Resource Specialist and Planning Team Leader Steve Dowlan said.

    The signing is expected to happen soon, perhaps during the first week of August, and officials would like to see it take place at Jakes Rocks.

    Colosimo said funding is in place to construct nine to 11 miles of trails. Once that is underway, "we will be focusing all efforts on more fundraising to add more trail," he said.

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    The latest:

    Please join us at the Jakes Rocks Mountain Bike Trail Project Signing Ceremony

    The long-awaited decision for the proposed Jakes Rocks Mountain Bike Trail will be celebrated at a formal signing ceremony.

    Friday, August 7, 2015

    11:00 a.m.

    Jakes Rocks Picnic Area

    Your contributions to this successful collaborative effort will make it possible for the ANF to provide exciting new activities on the forest that will also benefit our local communities.

    Directions: From State Route 59 (near the Morrison Bridge), take Forest Road 262 (Longhouse National Scenic Byway) south to Forest Road 492. At the Jakes Rocks Picnic Area and Overlook entrance sign, take the one lane road leading into the area (right); veer to the right at the intersection and picnic area is the first parking lot on the left.

    Please RSVP to me by Wednesday, August 5.

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    Thanks, and congrats!

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    This is great news. I'm stunned that it's actually going to happen.

    Congrats to the guys who worked so hard to make it happen.

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    Great news.

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    Truly wish I'd have come across this thread earlier I would have loved to have shown some support! Recently back into MTB and have just been combing the web trying to find trails/people around this area (from Erie.) Great to know there will be something somewhat nearby to go enjoy.

    Sure that a ton of work and a lot of frustration went into this and all I can say is thank you, congrats, and well done. Sounds like it was an arduous one.

    Any idea on when they're going to break ground/open? Sure it won't be til next year but worth knowing.

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    The plan is to break ground this fall. I have no idea if that's going to happen, but that's the plan as of the last info I received.

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    Awesome to see this project moving Forward! Thanks to all involved.

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    The good news is that they got another $100k grant from the state.

    The bad new is the "break ground in the fall" is now "break ground in the spring"

    Maybe after 5 years of 'breaking ground next spring/fall' this one will the be one. Fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat guy View Post
    The good news is that they got another $100k grant from the state.

    The bad new is the "break ground in the fall" is now "break ground in the spring"

    Maybe after 5 years of 'breaking ground next spring/fall' this one will the be one. Fingers crossed.
    Yeah, hoping the same!

    I hope to post an update Friday after a meeting with the FS, PKP, Kay-Linn and NAMBA.

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    I won't divulge all the particulars, but here's the latest summary directly from the meeting this morning:

    - $300k in the bank.

    - Pre-bid walk-thru mid-Nov 2015.

    - Bidding to start late this fall.

    - Awaiting ONE water related permit from the state (no issues of concern with this permit, just waiting on it to be approved....should be within 90 days of request).

    - Start building May/June 2016 (frozen ground, weather, etc play a role).

    - Phase 1 is 9-10 miles machine built.

    - NAMBA has been asked and agreed to hand-build shorter sections/connectors that are in the Phase 1 area but NOT included in the bid to machine build.

    - Roughly 3 month time to complete Phase 1.

    - NAMBA has been asked and agreed to do the trail maintenance upon completion

    - Trails in Phase 1 are labeled as green. However, given the terrain and conditions at the site these are more intermediate trails by most peoples assessment. Due to the nature of the area these trails will be rocky and rooty....they WILL NOT BE SMOOTH (aka Raystown). What make's them 'green' is simply not having so much elevation gain/loss.

    - PKP is committed to quality trails vs. quantity of trails. They made this quite clear when we discussed the bidding and how to narrow the potential bidders down to start with before they even get to vetting them. They want someone experienced in building mountain bike trails, specifically....and they're committed to getting that.


    My take:

    There was a lot of concern about building the 'green' trails first from our members. There was concern from the FS as well. We have been assured these first phase trails are not going to be a "dirt sidewalk"....even remotely. These are not the trails down along the reservoir. These are up on the very top coming from the Jake's Rocks parking area.

    The FS is very much on board with this. We have a new district ranger here now. He's a mountain biker himself and also worked in the BLM in Oregon overseeing the Alsea Falls trail system there. He's really excited and motivated to see this through.

    We did a bit of discussing about the overall system and how things have been learned from other systems like Raystown's lack of diversity in the trails. This is not a concern here with the features we have available. Matter of factly, we talked a fair bit about alternate lines.....so I think it's fair to say this is good. The trails will be green, blue and black and have varying degrees of difficulty. We may not have directional trails or at least they may not be huge bermed because of lack of soil.

    All involved were and are very motivated to see this through. It's really real....it always was, but there was a lot of questions that didn't seem to have answers. We're at the bidding stage. Next is playing in the dirt!

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    Some recent news:

    The trail builder has been selected! (Sorry, I don't yet know who it is. I do know they have the credentials/references/experience required)

    Bid was under budget for phase 1. (A fair amount under, actually. Maybe we'll be able to add a bit to phase 1 or at the very least have a good run-up started for phase 2....that is MY PERSONAL guess, not an official word on how PKP will proceed with the funds.)

    Work starts in the spring and we should have phase 1 completed by 9/1/16.

    We have a NAMBA meeting on 1/6/16 (PKP will be there to bring us up to speed)....after that meeting I'll have more particulars to share.

    Jason

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    Wow. It's REALLY going to happen. Friggin' AMAZING.

    Can't wait to see how it turns out. It's gonna be huge for the area.

    You guys are going to have to get used to having other riders around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62 View Post
    Wow. It's REALLY going to happen. Friggin' AMAZING.

    Can't wait to see how it turns out. It's gonna be huge for the area.

    You guys are going to have to get used to having other riders around...

    Steve Z
    No kidding! I'm always shocked when we ride somewhere and I see tire tracks....and don't know who made them! Currently, we seldom even run into hikers save for Morrison Trail which is pretty heavily used.

    I'm really excited for the kids, to be honest. We have some young kids in the group and it'll be nice for them to get to ride some 'real bike trails' in their own back yards!

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    It is going to be great for the area. I'm excited to check them out myself

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    Just a heads up after Wednesday's meeting:

    Dirt Artisans out of Kentucky won the bid and will be starting work in April or May as weather/ground conditions allow. The deadline is 9/1....Dirt Artisans is confident they will be finished up around 8/1.

    There's going to be a kick-off party on 8/13-8/14 weekend (completed or not....it's to coincide with the Kinzua Tango (multi-leg race....swim, canoe, bike, orienteering, run) and Kinzua Classic (roadie race). I'll add more details about this when I know more.

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    I know I'm really looking forward to meeting the contractors and getting some dirt moved!

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    Nice job was done to Rimrock trail, and Billinger did an excellent job on the observation platform! Can't wait to ride the new stuff!

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    Just a quick briefing that I'll link/copy & paste:

    https://www.facebook.com/thetrailsatjakesrocks/

    The Trails at Jakes Rocks shared Jim Decker's post.
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    Who else is ready to get their hands dirty?!
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    Mark your calendars ---- June 10,11 and 12,2016 ----Workbee Weekend on the Trails ! Specific details being developed but generally this will be a weekend of trail building technique training and construction on a section of the Trails system which will tie into the 9.25 miles being built by Dirt Artisans. Stay tuned for more details of the logistics for the weekend but expect time for work, time for friends and time to ride !

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    I mentioned it in the past (I think), but Dirt Artisans has a desire to get started earlier than the 5/1 official start date. This, of course, is pending weather and ground conditions.

    I'm hoping with this mild winter and spring being basically here that all of that comes into fruition!

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    Information about (and sign-ups for) the work bee for TAJR can be found at the link below.

    Thanks,

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    Thanks for posting. I'll certainly try to make one of the days.

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    Awesome, glad to have you!

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    Wow this is awesome I can't wait to see the results. I just recently moved into the area and got back into mountain biking.

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    Join us for a ride!

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    Wow this is awesome I can't wait to see the results. I just recently moved into the area and got back into mountain biking.
    Here's a link to the club FB page. You can find ride dates, times and locations there. We generally ride on Wednesday's and Sunday's and will probably be starting up a beginner/youth ride on Monday's after school lets out for the summer. I can get you directions to any of the trails if you like, just ask.

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    Nice! Our club (Western New York Mountain Bike Association) has plans to do a unofficial club ride from Ellicottvile, NY down to Jakes Rocks this August. I will be watching this thread to see how this project goes. I'm curious because work ha been started in Allegany State Park (NY) on new single track, and man doing it all by hand is work! I started looking into mechanized equipment, costs, etc. Where can I get more details/info on the specifics of this project? I read through the posts pretty fast, apologies if I missed it.
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    Here's a start....

    The Trails at Jakes Rocks Map

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    There's more information in the Warren Times Observer, but I can't link it up....try google. I think most everything that you might want to know can be gleaned from this very thread though. Not all of the intricacies of the project are easy to find and/or aren't public knowledge....like the beginning stages, public comment stuff(its somewhere on the ANF website, but I can never seem to locate it easily), etc.

    If you're looking for specific information about trail building machines I imagine you'd be best checking out the trial building forum here or contacting someone that does that professionally (PTBA?). I really don't know much about that....we're a McLeod and Rogue Hoe group of builders here as well. This project is contracted to Dirt Artisans....a pro trail builder.

    Otherwise, ask away and I'll do my best to answer any questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwrusso View Post
    Nice! Our club (Western New York Mountain Bike Association) has plans to do a unofficial club ride from Ellicottvile, NY down to Jakes Rocks this August. I will be watching this thread to see how this project goes. I'm curious because work ha been started in Allegany State Park (NY) on new single track, and man doing it all by hand is work! I started looking into mechanized equipment, costs, etc. Where can I get more details/info on the specifics of this project? I read through the posts pretty fast, apologies if I missed it.
    Enjoy your 42nd Parallel ride this August!

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    Dirt Artisans is in town and building trail!

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    Looks like we'll be fighting rain and T-storms all day tomorrow while we try and get our trail day in!

    Here's to hoping the weatherman is wrong!

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    Check out the pics! Trail day was a success! We put in a day and a half at Jake's Rocks. I couldn't take pics as I destroyed my phone lifting a rock and resting it on my thigh...phone was in my pocket, CRUNCH!

    Around 35 folks showed up Saturday and about 20 on Sunday. We built some awesome rock features and a great berm as well as around 1/4-1/3 mile of trail. Dirt Artisans has close to a mile of machine built trail in as well and they're working hard to get the remaining 9 miles in by early August for the grand opening (8/13).

    Special thanks to all the volunteers that attended, Straub for donating a keg of beer, WCCBI & PKP for setting it all up, the USDA Forest Service for letting us use ATV/UTV's to get our tools and food/water to the work area, NAMBA, Subway, Hog WIld BBQ and anyone else that I may have forgotten!

    The dream is quickly becoming a reality!

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    Do we have info on the next work day? I would really like to put in some work on this but was already booked last weekend.

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    Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkat273 View Post
    Do we have info on the next work day? I would really like to put in some work on this but was already booked last weekend.
    I don't know if there's going to be 'big' event like this again, but the last Wednesday of every month we(NAMBA) do trail work. There's some things we have to fix at Jake's that we're looking at on 6/29...a berm & roller that we need to redo the knick, some work on a rock ramp, and just general finish work like defining the trail edges (re-leafing, etc). Check out NAMBA's FB page as the work & ride dates are posted there. If you're not that local and/or Wednesday's don't work out for you we might do another Saturday or Sunday at some point, but it's not scheduled at this point and, to be honest we don't have another section to hand build yet.

    Thanks for your interest, hope you can make it to a trail day or a ride. It's really some great, flowy trail with some features.

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    Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Garden View Post
    I don't know if there's going to be 'big' event like this again, but the last Wednesday of every month we(NAMBA) do trail work. There's some things we have to fix at Jake's that we're looking at on 6/29...a berm & roller that we need to redo the knick, some work on a rock ramp, and just general finish work like defining the trail edges (re-leafing, etc). Check out NAMBA's FB page as the work & ride dates are posted there. If you're not that local and/or Wednesday's don't work out for you we might do another Saturday or Sunday at some point, but it's not scheduled at this point and, to be honest we don't have another section to hand build yet.

    Thanks for your interest, hope you can make it to a trail day or a ride. It's really some great, flowy trail with some features.
    Sounds great. I live over in Edinboro, just south of Erie but we have a camp in the Youngsville/Pittsfield area so it's no big deal to swing out for a day or two. Thanks for all the info, it'll be nice to have some solid single track that's even closer to me than Ellicottville or moraine.

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    Just a quick heads up: the builders have about 5 miles done (not all connected and not open to ride yet). We're still waiting on some bridges and armoring to be done. Many, myself included, have put a lot of sweat and a little blood into this.....I don't recall anyone crying!

    Looking forward to the grand opening in August!

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    Grand Opening Postponed!!!!

    Just a heads up, due to copious amounts of rain this week and more on the way throughout the weekend the grand opening of Jake's Rocks has been postponed from 8/13 to now being 8/28.

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    UPDATE

    Unfortunately due to unforeseen weather conditions the Official Grand Opening of The Trails at Jakes Rocks will be moved to Sunday August 28th. All event times will remain the same. We are extremely sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. Please spread the word and stay tuned for any further updates.

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    Many congrats...
    ...I visit the west coast of Pa quite a bit, and now another place to ride is fantastic. Personally I would like to thank all who made this happen through hard work and support. I will try to make the grand opening!

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    Has anyone ridden here? What's the verdict? I'm heading out in a couple days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingBob View Post
    Has anyone ridden here? What's the verdict? I'm heading out in a couple days.
    Guys that went last Sunday said it's amazing, some of the best trails they've ridden.

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    Trying to make it out early monday morning if anyone is interested.

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    I've been following this project from almost 3 hours away for, what, 4 or 5 years? Every since I first saw it posted on--was it the wnymba forum? Anyway, there were two things which really piqued my interest other than being just 45 minutes further from me than Ellicottville. First was the clearly rocky terrain, including huge rock monoliths that apparently the trails were going to meander about. Contrast this with Rock City in Ellicottville, which mostly avoids the monoliths. The second thing was that some of the early comments 5 or so years ago were about how Jakes Rocks would not and could not be like Raystown. I haven't located those early comments, but they were very similar to Rock Garden's comments shown here:

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    [...]

    - Trails in Phase 1 are labeled as green. However, given the terrain and conditions at the site these are more intermediate trails by most peoples assessment. Due to the nature of the area these trails will be rocky and rooty....they WILL NOT BE SMOOTH (aka Raystown). What make's them 'green' is simply not having so much elevation gain/loss.

    [...]

    My take:

    There was a lot of concern about building the 'green' trails first from our members. There was concern from the FS as well. We have been assured these first phase trails are not going to be a "dirt sidewalk"....even remotely. These are not the trails down along the reservoir. These are up on the very top coming from the Jake's Rocks parking area.

    [...]

    We did a bit of discussing about the overall system and how things have been learned from other systems like Raystown's lack of diversity in the trails. This is not a concern here with the features we have available.
    Anyway, I have been crazy excited to see this place cone to fruition, at least Phase 1, after languishing for so long. I had planned to come join the opening event, but the reschedule put it on the Shindagin Shindig weekend. Priorities, man.

    But I made it down this weekend! And I was absolutely blown away by the views and the geology of the place. And as promised early on, many trails, particularly A, B & J meander right around those monoliths. Gorgeous. And how about that intermediate trail surface? Smoooooth and fast fast fast. It's like someone put Raystown in right down into E'ville's Rock City.

    Pretty much only D is intermediate, I reckon, so at least there's that.

    No matter, it'll still be a twice a year destination for me. Maybe more often if Phase 2 or 3 incorporates more of the natural terrain. Or maybe more often still once my wife gets down there--maybe even next weekend. She is going to go mad over it.

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    I'm looking forward to checking the trails out.

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    Glad to see folks enjoying it. Parking lot has been packed (not a surprise only opening a couple weekends ago). There's some stuff folks will come to enjoy as time moves on and they realized they're there....there's some alternate fun to play on like rock jumps/drops, log ride, etc. You can get a lot of air in spots on A, B, D and H (I've been told....haven't been on H yet personally....have certainly gotten the air on the other 3 ). There's so much rock there that it literally lines either side of the trail and many parts of it for probably 90% of the system. We, NAMBA, have been given carte blanche to do as we see fit to add features....and we have the rock bars to do it!

    I suppose right now the trails are fresh and very smooth....I wouldn't go so far as to say buttery smooth, but smooth nonetheless. That'll change as they wear in to a much more rocky surface. The trail builders really wanted to build more features in, but deadlines kept them moving along. We'll add them in one at a time as we can.

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    Jake's Rocks

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    Thanks for posting up some pics, Jim! I'm horrible with even remembering to take them...let alone posting them up.

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    Thanks for the pics

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    I have another map coming with a bit more info on it....mileage/difficulty being the most mentionable thing. Will post it up as soon as I receive it and get it formatted correctly.

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    Rock - I can't tell from the map, where is the trailhead/parking area? I am originally from WNY, just over the PA boarder from Bradford, and would love to check out this system next time I am in the area.
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    I'm assuming you know how to get to Kinzua and you'll be coming on 59 from Bradford direction....be that via 219, 321 or 770. Cross the bridge, make a left and go up Longhouse about a mile or so and take the first right just as you crest the hill. Follow that (Jake's Rock's Rd) to the stop sign ("T" in the road). Hang another right into the Jake's Rocks area loop. When you get to the road to the overlook (there's only one road on the loop) make a right and then a left into the first parking lot. It will be evident as you'll see the trails from the road and see where it crosses twice right there.

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    Thanks so much. I am looking forward to checking it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Garden View Post
    Glad to see folks enjoying it. Parking lot has been packed (not a surprise only opening a couple weekends ago). There's some stuff folks will come to enjoy as time moves on and they realized they're there....there's some alternate fun to play on like rock jumps/drops, log ride, etc. You can get a lot of air in spots on A, B, D and H (I've been told....haven't been on H yet personally....have certainly gotten the air on the other 3 ). There's so much rock there that it literally lines either side of the trail and many parts of it for probably 90% of the system. We, NAMBA, have been given carte blanche to do as we see fit to add features....and we have the rock bars to do it!

    I suppose right now the trails are fresh and very smooth....I wouldn't go so far as to say buttery smooth, but smooth nonetheless. That'll change as they wear in to a much more rocky surface. The trail builders really wanted to build more features in, but deadlines kept them moving along. We'll add them in one at a time as we can.
    That is exactly what I was wondering when I was out there to ride. The tread is so smooth, but there are SO MANY ROCK along the edges of the tread.

    Glad to hear that you guys are allowed to start building more features. With so much to work with I kind of envy you the job. I'm hoping to get up that way again before long.

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    Spent my day off @ Jakes and I must say great work! I was worried about all the rain as Warren was reporting nearly 2 inches over the weekend but it was hero dirt. I rode every foot of trail but I especially liked E to G to F or H. Fast, flowy but also lots of options. Honestly once the whole system is done, I can see my trips to Raystown reducing significantly. Nicely done to all responsible and in case no one had reported it yet there are some trees down across the bridge on C just after the C/D intersection.

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    I'm heading here this weekend. Probably be there sat am
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    The trails are nice and the area is scenic. I'm excited for the next phase

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    Glad everyone has good things to say! That mess on the bridge on H near the D/C/H intersection was cleared by yours truly....must have been right after that post above!

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    Checking status of trails ....thinking of making a run up there this week.
    Any word on adding trails to the system?

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    OK, I'm in, be there this week...
    ...any updated info I need to know?

    TIA!

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    Sorry guys, it's hunting season....my bikes are collecting dust and haven't been ridden in a month!

    I know guys have been on it though and as of last weekend it was clear with no issues. That's about all I can really provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA View Post
    OK, I'm in, be there this week...
    ...any updated info I need to know?

    TIA!
    Trip report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingBob View Post
    Trip report?
    So I asked for info, and got "NONE" and now you want a report from me?...
    ... I don't know people, this Pa forum really is defunct.

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA View Post
    So I asked for info, and got "NONE" and now you want a report from me?...
    ... I don't know people, this Pa forum really is defunct.

    LOL
    Just kidding, I'll get some info up here for ya in a bit...
    ...did see and meet a lot of riders out at Jake's

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    Gotta love a post that starts like this:

    "YOU GOTTA GO" check this place out!!!!!!!!!!!

    A trail system on top of a mountain, with great views all around, tons of effort, and work to make it nice for everyone! Two parking lots room for lots, Porta Potties Ya! Evil necessity! LOL Signage directing the location of the parking....great!

    We arrived at the trail head and proceeded to ride, right off the bat the first trail was blown clean of any leaves and everything was in view. A mini Raystown, with less up and more level flow. Hundreds of berms!!!!!!! The ups and parts of the trails are lined with great big granite boulders, some moved into place others part of the planet.

    We never looked at a map or cared which way to go. It was get to it now and we never stopped pedaling. Way fun!!!! J trail total rock garden and other trails have accessory lines of log skinnys and rock skinnys. Excellent vision as with continuous flow you can include these into your flow.(If yas gets what I mean).

    It gets a plus 10 and when more trails are built it will crank up to 11!

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    Looks awesome! I'll be heading up there in the spring for sure. Is it ok for a 9yo on a bmx bike? Trying to decide if I want to take the whole family or just go alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymountain View Post
    Looks awesome! I'll be heading up there in the spring for sure. Is it ok for a 9yo on a bmx bike? Trying to decide if I want to take the whole family or just go alone.
    E, F and G would be fine for a 9 yo. A, C and H have climbs that might be difficult.
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    Great, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymountain View Post
    Looks awesome! I'll be heading up there in the spring for sure. Is it ok for a 9yo on a bmx bike? Trying to decide if I want to take the whole family or just go alone.
    Please dress your 9yo up with protective gear, there are lots of big rocks off the sides of the trail.

    Just a though, don't wanna see anyone get hurt, especially a young gun!

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    Just a midwinter heads up....

    Phase 2 is currently seeking funding with a sizeable amount already in place. This phase is to add another ~10 miles INCLUDING blue, black and a gavity trail as well! I'll see if I can get the maps posted up in the not-so-distant future.

    After the warm weather and the rain finally stopping we took a ride a weekend back....trails are all clear and there were probably 8-10 vehicles in the parking lot. I was kind of surprised by that since it was a random Sunday in January.

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    Good to here...
    ...it is a bucket list place and I hope lots of others get to enjoy all the hard work the guys did.

    Thanks for the update.

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    Phase 2 Map

    The really light green/yellow is what's already there. See the map key for the details of this up and coming phase! 1/2 mile gravity trail, 4+ miles of intermediate, 2 miles of advanced, 1/2 mile of hand built (beginner friendly), and 2+ miles of beginner trail.

    I'll have a Phase 3 map in the future to post up as well.

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    Great stuff. What's the timeline on phase 2?
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    I don't know the exact completion deadline date, but it should be done by September same as last year. If it goes like last year it'll open up trail by trail until it's done as well....probably another 'grand opening or kick-off' type of event with that. I believe Dirt Artisans will be doing the work again as well, but it I'm not 100% on that. We want them back, they want to come back....might have to bid it though due to legal mumbo-jumbo. That's not my deal though so I'm just parlaying the chatter.

    There's also a festival of sorts in the planning stages right now. IF that event happens it will be early October....very early right now so there's really nothing to other than an idea at this point.

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    Sweet, thanks for the intel.

    I have a week of vacation end of Sept and was planning on a week long bike trip. Probably spend a day or 2 there omw to New York.
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    Nice! Should be 20 miles at Jake's for you to play on. Head a couple miles east and ride Morrison for the torture that it provides and then, if all goes well, head north and hit up Tracy for a cool down lap!

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    Also, there's going to be race at Jake's on 7/1/17. I'll give more details when they become available.

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    Awesome news! I'm so excited to get some rides in this year at Jake's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13 View Post
    Sweet, thanks for the intel.

    I have a week of vacation end of Sept and was planning on a week long bike trip. Probably spend a day or 2 there omw to New York.
    Let us know when you're up this way, I'd love to ride with some fellow mtbrs.

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    First time in my life I've ridden in February....three days this week! Anyway, trails are in good shape with a couple of spots that are muddier than we'd like so we'll take some action there soon, but all trails are clear and good to ride.

    I'll also post up some scheduled big event trail days when they're finalized. Should be one each in June, July and August. We have about 1/2 mile to hand build in this phase and we have a handful of areas we'd like to build up some rock features.

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    I wondered where that came from. Wasn't there Sunday.....and then it was on Tuesday!



    Jake's Rocks Phase 2 Trail Work Days June 10 & 11


    We'll be working on building about 1/2 mile of singletrack from near the end of "B" trail to a point where it crosses Longhouse Scenic Drive. This will require some portions of bench cutting and some portions that will be essentially rake-n-ride and likely everything in between including some rock work. Please join us if you can make it to one or both days!

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    Trails have names now! I don't think there's an official map yet, but here's the latest:

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    Rippin' at the Rocks - 7/1/17

    Here's the page for the July race at Jake's Rocks. The mileage listed is not yet accurate as we're still determining the final route and those numbers (4 & 7 miles were essentially place holders). Actual mileage will be closer to 5.5 miles for citizens (1 lap) and 12 miles for elite (2 laps).

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    Opened aproximately 3 more miles of trails Friday. It's been raining ever since
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    Awesome! I made the drive up from Pittsburgh a few weeks ago and had a great time. I definitely plan on bringing some friends up next year when some more trails open up.

    what are these 3 new miles like?? any more pictures?

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    3 new trails down the north face of the hill to the reservoir. One is a gravity trail, I haven't been on it because it was dark. Very different feel than the other trails. Narrower, steeper and the turns are tight and not banked. More difficult and not as fast.
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    New Year's Ride at TAJR

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    Wow, I didn't realize I haven't been on here since last April!

    Nice snow pics! I'm just not into fat biking....or winter biking at all.

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    Anything new happening here? It’s been quiet for awhile. Thinking of making a trip up.

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    2 new trails have recently opened and a third should be done soon. The wet spots and a few of the tight turns on the trails that opened back in November have been cleaned up as well.
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    wow...I might have to hit up this system this fall and even winter. Not too far from home (C-bus Ohio). Could possibly make a weekend of it and camp(?)
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    Its ridable in the winter if the snow isn't too deep. The trail that just opened a week ago goes down to Dewdrop Campground. Unfortunately the Forest Service closes the campground 10/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpa102 View Post
    Its ridable in the winter if the snow isn't too deep. The trail that just opened a week ago goes down to Dewdrop Campground. Unfortunately the Forest Service closes the campground 10/1
    Crap...can probably find a hotel somewhere near and drive there I s'pose. When does the first snow hit?
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    There is 'dispersed camping' - that is primitive roadside camping with no facilities - just south of Jake's Rocks along FR 160 & FR 259. These are free sites that are open all year long. The trails cut right by a couple of them so you can ride right from the camp site.

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    Nearby Chapman State Park offers camping. It's about a 20 minute drive from the park to the trailhead at the top of the ridge. Stayed there last year when riding Jake's Rocks. Nice park. This year they have drained the small lake down inside the park to perform dam repairs, so park is not as scenic as usual, and parts are an active work zone. Just FYI if you're considering this spot.

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    FR 160 and 259 are snowmobile trails and often impassable once the snow hits

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62 View Post
    There is 'dispersed camping' - that is primitive roadside camping with no facilities - just south of Jake's Rocks along FR 160 & FR 259. These are free sites that are open all year long. The trails cut right by a couple of them so you can ride right from the camp site.

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    Nearby Chapman State Park offers camping. It's about a 20 minute drive from the park to the trailhead at the top of the ridge. Stayed there last year when riding Jake's Rocks. Nice park. This year they have drained the small lake down inside the park to perform dam repairs, so park is not as scenic as usual, and parts are an active work zone. Just FYI if you're considering this spot.
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    FR 160 and 259 are snowmobile trails and often impassable once the snow hits
    I will definitely consider all of this. I don't mind primitive camping so that would not be an issue. Also interesting to know about the snowmobile trail roads/routes.
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    You can download a map of the snowmobile trails on the Allegheny National Forest website

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    The new trail coming online soon at Jake's Rocks - Ursus - looks like it's the real thing. Can't wait to get back out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62 View Post
    The new trail coming online soon at Jake's Rocks - Ursus - looks like it's the real thing. Can't wait to get back out there.

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    Rode it today Steve. That alone was worth the drive. Just dont do it on a rigid fatbike like I did. Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight lol.

    I did the main loop back to the lot then rode Coal Knob to Elijah then left on Ursus the climbed out on Dewdrop. Id like to hit Dewdrop in the downhill direction next time but just ran out of legs today. Great job on that guys. I'm destroyed.
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    Plan to ride there this Monday morning. What's the best trailhead to park at? Are these trails bi-directional? Looking for advice on best flow direction to hit all the good downhills. What are the most technical trails with fun features? The plan is to ride everything in one day but would like to ride trails with best flow..

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    I think I would rather climb Dew Drop than any other trail because while its long, the grading is perfect.

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    The only trail that is directional is Black Snake. Definitely ride Black Snake and Ursus down. Pretty much every trail has advanced options if you are looking for them. I recommend Ohi-yo Way and Coal Knob north to south, Long House and Tuttle Town south to north. Other than Black snake which is directional and Ohi-Yo way which is rocky and narrow, all the trails flow and are fun in either direction.
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    Awesome!! Thanks for the advice! Can't wait to check er out

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    Who’s going to Jake’s Witch at Jake’s Rocks? Sounds awesome!
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    What a fun place to ride!! Beautiful scenery

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    Wondering if anyone attended the event at Jakes Rocks - Jakes Witch? Thoughts on the event?

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    Snowy night ride

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    Ursus is back open after some rock armoring and a short reroute. Some new trail by Dew Drop campground will be opening soon.
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    This trail area all sounds great, my wife and I will be taking our annual mountain bike vacation there this summer! Any tips on these trails or other "must ride trails" in that area are welcome, thanks in advance!

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    All the Jake's Rocks trails are good, but Blacksnake & Devils Drop are advanced downhill trails, and can be pretty tough (too tough for me).

    There are some old school trails across the reservoir to the east, at Rimrock. The Rimrock/Morrison trail system is two rough loops that drop to the lake and then come back up. Tough riding, for sure.

    Tanbark Trail is the other trail in Allegheny National Forest that is open to mountain bikes. Some of it is very, very rocky...

    Harris Hill Extension Forest is up across the NY state line, near Ellington, and has a great trail system. Unfortunately there is some timber harvesting going on there this summer, so about half of the trails are off limits.

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    Tanbark is a good old school single track.. There are a couple of sections with slippery rocks that should be walked. Morrison is difficult. I haven't been out since last summer and there were multiple downed trees and sections getting grown in. There is a loop in Scandia that goes to an overlook over the Kinzua Dam (see Trailforks) and the Rocky Gap ATV trails.
    Ellicotville NY has lots of nice single track above the Holiday Valley ski resort. The Westside Overland trail in Panama NY has some narrow, challenging single track.
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    Thanks for the replies for Jakes Rocks and surrounding areas, I have made note of them. We did print out a map for Jakes Rocks and a couple maps for some other areas around in the vicinity, Buzzard Swamp and Bush Hollow/Mill Creek. We have to see how close they are in relation to where we re staying.

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    Just rode Jake's on Friday.... What a great ride! New trails Elijah and Ursus are awesome! Tons of fun. Trails were in really great shape even after a few storms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd298 View Post
    Just rode Jake's on Friday.... What a great ride! New trails Elijah and Ursus are awesome! Tons of fun. Trails were in really great shape even after a few storms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizman View Post
    Thanks for the replies for Jakes Rocks and surrounding areas, I have made note of them. We did print out a map for Jakes Rocks and a couple maps for some other areas around in the vicinity, Buzzard Swamp and Bush Hollow/Mill Creek. We have to see how close they are in relation to where we re staying.
    Bizman, If this is your summer mountain biking vacation, its really worth going up to Ellicottville, NY to ride the trails out the back of Holiday Valley Ski area in McCarthy Hill SF after you ride Jakes Rocks. Its a large system of hand-built single track, +30 miles of it, and some sections are very challenging, but it is a well traficed system, so the trails are worn in and well maintained. (Its listed as an IMBA Epic). With that said, on a weekday or even a weekend, if you are deeper in the system, you won't see another soul. Good food and beer in town make it a great stop. You head toward Bradford and go north on 219. Probably an hour, hour and a half to get there. Local bike shop and businesses sell very good map and i think there are some online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justriding View Post
    Bizman, If this is your summer mountain biking vacation, its really worth going up to Ellicottville, NY to ride the trails out the back of Holiday Valley Ski area in McCarthy Hill SF after you ride Jakes Rocks. Its a large system of hand-built single track, +30 miles of it, and some sections are very challenging, but it is a well traficed system, so the trails are worn in and well maintained. (Its listed as an IMBA Epic). With that said, on a weekday or even a weekend, if you are deeper in the system, you won't see another soul. Good food and beer in town make it a great stop. You head toward Bradford and go north on 219. Probably an hour, hour and a half to get there. Local bike shop and businesses sell very good map and i think there are some online.
    Thanks very much for the info on the trails in Ellicottville NY! We have been through there before, but have not rode the bike trails. We are staying over in Russell and they say it's only 5 miles from the NY border from our cabin. When you say local bike shop and businesses, is that in Ellicottville or somewhere else? I know we would want a map for the trails if one is available. When I get a minute I will google this trail area and see what comes up, thanks again for the tip on this!

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    Warren Cycle Shop has maps of Jake's Rocks. Bike and Bean in Ellicotville has maps of the trails behind Holiday Valley. They have really good burritos too!
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    Grouse and Laurel trails around Dew Drop Campground are now open.
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    Heading up to amp and ride at Jakes Rocks for the first time. We will be camping at Dewdrop campground and hoping to ride our from there. For anyone that has ridden there do you have a good loop?

    From eyeballing a contour map of the trails was thinking of a mostly ccw loop along the lines of Grouse - Laurel - Dewdrop - Volpes - Ohio Way - Blacksnake / Devils Drop - Deerfoot - Seneca - Tuttletown / Coal Knob - Elijah - Ursus. For one day of riding up there would that hit the major trails? Any feelings on Devils Drop v Blacksnake or Tuttletown v Coal Knob or other suggestions? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maz78 View Post
    Heading up to amp and ride at Jakes Rocks for the first time. We will be camping at Dewdrop campground and hoping to ride our from there. For anyone that has ridden there do you have a good loop?

    From eyeballing a contour map of the trails was thinking of a mostly ccw loop along the lines of Grouse - Laurel - Dewdrop - Volpes - Ohio Way - Blacksnake / Devils Drop - Deerfoot - Seneca - Tuttletown / Coal Knob - Elijah - Ursus. For one day of riding up there would that hit the major trails? Any feelings on Devils Drop v Blacksnake or Tuttletown v Coal Knob or other suggestions? Thanks.
    Save Laurel/Grouse for the end you will be muddy. I wouldn't go up Ohio Way, it is narrow and loose, try Cornplanter and Three Sisters. If you like speed, Blacksnake and Coal Knob, more flow Devil's Drop and Tuttletown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpa102 View Post
    Save Laurel/Grouse for the end you will be muddy. I wouldn't go up Ohio Way, it is narrow and loose, try Cornplanter and Three Sisters. If you like speed, Blacksnake and Coal Knob, more flow Devil's Drop and Tuttletown.
    Fantastic input! Looking forward to getting out there.

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    Monday we parked at the Kinzua point information center on the west side of the Morrison Bridge, this day was real good conditions. From the parking lot we rode the Kinzua point trail (green) east to west (a very nice flowing trail) to Devils Drop. This was a pretty good climb and gets the blood pumping till you get to the top, more so for my wife than me, non the less gets you warmed up!

    Once reaching the top we took Seneca trail to the right to Tuttletown (South) to Elijah. Elijah was a real nice trail leading us to Ursus. Ursus was an awesome trail and mostly down hill, definitely ride it this direction as I wouldn’t want to not do that. There were huge rocks that you ride between and just a very fun trail!

    After Ursus we picked up Dew Drop (north) which is another climb but not to bad. It’s either ride this down and Ursus up or vice versa, I would rather ride Ursus down the way we did and climb Dew Drop. Dew Drop will take you to a section of Long house and then to Vulpes and up Corn Planter. By then my wife was shot and we hit the short section of Seneca (we did not do earlier) and down Devils Drop (allot of fun going down) to the Kinzua Point Trail and back to the parking lot. I don’t have an odometer but wrote it down as 12 miles total.

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    Tuesday we went to Ellicotville to the bike and bean bike shop to get a map. Just in time as they were closed and the guy said he could sell us a map for $10.00 and give us 1 minute of his time to tell us where to ride. This was the McCarthy Hill area and conditions started out pretty good. We parked on Forrest road just past the School about 2 miles from the bike shop heading south on 219.

    Starting out through a grassy area to Eagle Trail which was a good climb. Allot of roots and a bit slippery due to rain the day before. This brought us to Sidewinder then to Dead Dog Loop to Big Merlin (which was a nice trail). We had to cut Big Merlin short because it started to rain steady and we headed back to the parking lot soaked. Once back the sun came out for a bit while we got the bikes and ourselves cleaned up and back in the van just in time as it started a torrential downpour for at least a half hour or more as we sat there and waited for it to stop. I wrote this down as 7 miles. NOTE: The map we bought looked like a very nice thick weatherproof map (we felt it should have been for $10.00), once it got a little wet, the ink ran and it disintegrated into pieces.

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    Wednesday and Thursday we went to the Allegany State Park. Take exit 19 of of I-86 and park at the Bova camping area at the end of the dirt road. There were nice trail maps at the trail head (nicer than the one in the link above) and the trails were well marked. The riding here was not technical but it wasn’t necessarily easy either as it was a mountain and you had to go up and then trails that you could come down on. It was a solid track surface washed out in some areas about what I would call double track. There was a $7.00 charge for your vehicle to get into the park per day.

    From the trail head we went up Patterson to Snowsnake trail to the left and a couple other trails once at the top and to the stone tower and fire tire. I would not do the Snowsnake Trail going up as the surface is not the best and this trail would be much better to ride down from the top. Instead ride Patterson to the top and then the out lying trails back down to intersect with Patterson toward the bottom. I wrote this down as 15 miles.

    On Thursday we rode to the top of Patterson and got to the warming hut just in time as there was a torrential down pour that lasted about an hour and a half. We were hoping to hit more of the trails and especially the only single track trail but things were just to wet at that point so we just rode back down Patterson to the bottom. I wrote this down as 7 miles.

    Friday was a travel home day and we did 13 miles once home, me in my Quest XS Velomobile an my wife on her road bike.

    Saturday we went to Raystown to the Alligrippis trails, conditions were very good and we had a blast riding 19 miles.

    Sunday my wife was beat and wanted to take the ebikes on some back mountain roads. It was a great day and logged 17 miles.

    All in all a good vacation logging 92 miles but unfortunate to have rain on three of our days away. We stayed at Deep Wood Vacation Rentals in Russell Pa at very reasonable pricing only 5 miles from the NY boarder. We saw a dog bear (dog face, real long legs, not very heavy) in the dumpster at the campground across from us when we took a 2 mile ride the first night we were there. Then on Thursday sitting in front of our only camp fire a big bear walked right past our cabin close to dark. From are cabin Jakes rocks was about 38 miles, Ellicotville about 40, and the Allegany State Park about 25.

    Ah, now to start thinking where we shall we go next year.......

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    They are hosting a mountain bike festival at Jake's Rocks 9/27-29. Several new trails will be open with plenty of rocks!
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