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    So many good options this year for XC bikes. It's making it very hard to choose.

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    This bike with a 120 34sc would be exactly what I want. Anyone know if they will be offering frame only?

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    I really want the TR version, it ticks pretty much all the boxes for me apart from some of the parts specc'd but I could easily live with them for a while and upgrade later. I particularly like the fact its specc'd with the 34 SC. Hmmm, I'm looking forward to some ride reports and real world weights...

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    Has anyone seen any proper ride reports anywhere on the web? Bike looks perfect on paper, but would like to know a bit more before pulling the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnr_seahorse View Post
    Has anyone seen any proper ride reports anywhere on the web? Bike looks perfect on paper, but would like to know a bit more before pulling the trigger.
    I keep looking, but haven't come across anything yet. Bring it on! I want to see how this compares to the new Canyon Lux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just J View Post
    I really want the TR version, it ticks pretty much all the boxes for me apart from some of the parts specc'd but I could easily live with them for a while and upgrade later. I particularly like the fact its specc'd with the 34 SC. Hmmm, I'm looking forward to some ride reports and real world weights...
    I've researched the hell out of this category this year and ultimately decided not to buy a new bike because nothing checked every box in my wishlist. I heard a little about the Oiz but couldn't find the details on the builds until today and boy does this change my mind. I too am really interested to hear some real ride reports and weights, but the M10-TR build is so damn close to what I've been looking for 120/120 with DPS rear and 34 SC front, 2 bottle cages inside the frame (that's huge to me for endurance races and long training rides) and a $5400 msrp?

    The comparable SB100 build is $8000, the comparable Sniper trail build is between 6-6.5k (6k build doesn't have SC fork, 6.5k build does but also has carbon wheels) and neither of those bikes have 2 bottles in the triangle. On paper, the closest true comparison would be the Lux CF 8.0 Race Team that they list on the euro-only website. That is ~5300 when converted to USD and has a 34SC 'Elite' (110mm) the new 12-speed XTR spec and XRC 1250 carbon wheels. If they bring it to US and the price holds, that's a ridiculous spec for the dollar and nothing else can really compete with it in this category, but the Oiz spec for the same price is pretty damn close on everything but the wheels. I also prefer the more progressive geometry and longer travel on the TR option of the Oiz.

    So yeah, I guess it comes back to real world ride reports and a sanity check on the weight, but I'm really impressed on paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgarson View Post
    I've researched the hell out of this category this year and ultimately decided not to buy a new bike because nothing checked every box in my wishlist. I heard a little about the Oiz but couldn't find the details on the builds until today and boy does this change my mind. I too am really interested to hear some real ride reports and weights, but the M10-TR build is so damn close to what I've been looking for 120/120 with DPS rear and 34 SC front, 2 bottle cages inside the frame (that's huge to me for endurance races and long training rides) and a $5400 msrp?

    The comparable SB100 build is $8000, the comparable Sniper trail build is between 6-6.5k (6k build doesn't have SC fork, 6.5k build does but also has carbon wheels) and neither of those bikes have 2 bottles in the triangle. On paper, the closest true comparison would be the Lux CF 8.0 Race Team that they list on the euro-only website. That is ~5300 when converted to USD and has a 34SC 'Elite' (110mm) the new 12-speed XTR spec and XRC 1250 carbon wheels. If they bring it to US and the price holds, that's a ridiculous spec for the dollar and nothing else can really compete with it in this category, but the Oiz spec for the same price is pretty damn close on everything but the wheels. I also prefer the more progressive geometry and longer travel on the TR option of the Oiz.

    So yeah, I guess it comes back to real world ride reports and a sanity check on the weight, but I'm really impressed on paper.
    Theres also the new Blur that now has a TR spec but only 110mm travel from the 34SC and a huuuuge price tag.

    This is definitely the type of bike Im going for next though.

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    Interesting, they must have added Blur TR very recently, I've checked the Blur out multiple times before and never saw it. The 'Elite' version of the 34SC is not compelling to me though, the total build weight on the TR variants of the Blur are 2 pounds heavier than the equivalent 32SC versions. I'm hoping the TR version of the Oiz comes right in around 25 given that's where the Sniper Trail is with the same 120mm shock and 120mm 34SC. I can give up 2 pounds for an extra 20mm front & rear, but same weight just for another 10mm up front? meh.

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    I just wish it had 20mm more reach and was slacked out by a degree or two in the trail flavor. If this thing was closer to the Sniper geo I'd be all over it.

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    Hopefully some good reviews will be released soon...

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    Thanks for sharing, been searching around for this for a few days now. I think it looks great and the numbers on paper strike a great balance for someone like me who veers more towards xc riding but would still like to feel more confident descending or comfortable on long ride. Currently riding a top fuel, and the 120mm version of this bike is making me consider a switch.

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    Numbers look good, build kits look like decent value. Ride reports from this, new Epic Evo and the Sniper have all been done by trail/enduro riders

    Would love to hear some reviews of these bikes from guys who've done some XC races on them.

    Not quite on par with the new Canyon on value, but the geometry on this looks more exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slider_phil View Post
    Numbers look good, build kits look like decent value. Ride reports from this, new Epic Evo and the Sniper have all been done by trail/enduro riders

    Would love to hear some reviews of these bikes from guys who've done some XC races on them.

    Not quite on par with the new Canyon on value, but the geometry on this looks more exciting.
    Is anyone doing proper XC reviews?

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    Best I've found so far is users on this forum for bikes that are available now. There's a fairly decent ride review on the Canyon Lux on YouTube with Guy Kesteven. That Pinkbike "first ride" on the Lux was pretty disappointing.

    All I can say is that it's currently a good time to be looking for a new XC bike! Lots of good choices available

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    I currently have two of them sitting in my basement. Unfortunately, neither of them is mine.

    The reviews from people riding them is they are really good bikes. Big improvement over the old Oiz, which I thought was a pretty damm good bike to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMN View Post
    I currently have two of them sitting in my basement. Unfortunately, neither of them is mine.

    The reviews from people riding them is they are really good bikes. Big improvement over the old Oiz, which I thought was a pretty damm good bike to begin with.
    Can you give us some sizes and weights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Can you give us some sizes and weights?

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    The medium is 22 with a straight post, build is top of line Sram. Aluminum wheels and XT pedals. Lighter pedals and wheels would have it around 21.5.

    The small is 23.5 with a dropper, aluminum wheels and XTR Di2 group. Will be just under 23 with race wheels on it.
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    OIZ M10-TR 19 / $5,399 or Epic EVO $5,800.
    I like the specs more on the OIZ, just that I don't know a single person that has an Orbea MTB, only several road bikes so I know they make a good product. I just need a few more reviews. Strangely I did a sizing check on the website and it has me on a M, I know there is no way I would get a M, I'm 6' 33" inseam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclism00 View Post
    OIZ M10-TR 19 / $5,399 or Epic EVO $5,800.
    I like the specs more on the OIZ, just that I don't know a single person that has an Orbea MTB, only several road bikes so I know they make a good product. I just need a few more reviews. Strangely I did a sizing check on the website and it has me on a M, I know there is no way I would get a M, I'm 6' 33" inseam.
    I have their gravel bike the Terra. My first Orbea. I am very impressed with the bike. It pedals very efficiently and as a result, am very interested in the Oiz.

    In regards to your sizing; I am 5'9" and after having a Pole Evolink, I would never buy a size Medium in any bike. I have two 2018 Epics (large) currently with blown shocks -hence the search for another bike, and would not want them any smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclism00 View Post
    OIZ M10-TR 19 / $5,399 or Epic EVO $5,800.
    I like the specs more on the OIZ, just that I don't know a single person that has an Orbea MTB, only several road bikes so I know they make a good product. I just need a few more reviews. Strangely I did a sizing check on the website and it has me on a M, I know there is no way I would get a M, I'm 6' 33" inseam.
    Very similar thoughts (and I'm exact same size/inseam coincidentally). I'm leaning Oiz over the Evo. I haven't heard any weights on the M10 TR build yet so maybe it will suck, but I was really unimpressed with the weights on the EVO. I think a lot of that is in a handful of lazy spec choices they made. Those could be easily remedied, but why spend $5800 to change a bunch of things when you could spend less on the Oiz and have less need to upgrade parts? I've never ridden brain either but it's hard for me to not consider all the bad rep over it, even if it's just on the rear shock.

    Likewise I don't know anyone who has an Orbea MTB but it turns out there is a small LBS very close to me that carries them so I'm looking forward to checking them out once they're available.

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    Price is right, I would just build my own wheel set and use those that come with it as a backup set. I have ridden an Epic, I am one of the few that never had problems with the brain I guess, I'm just looking for more of a playful bike since I'm not really into racing, maybe a few Endurance events here and there. With the Evo, I would need to change the cranks, most of the cockpit just to lighten it up more.

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    So Orbea must be smoking some good crack. They put the frame only option on the website but they priced it at $3500!!! Are they trying to outdo yeti as top rip off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodon View Post
    So Orbea must be smoking some good crack. They put the frame only option on the website but they priced it at $3500!!! Are they trying to outdo yeti as top rip off?
    Yikes. I thought the Lux was bad at $3k. Maybe they don't actually want to sell frames.

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    That's a lot cake considering the Epic Ultralite is only few hundo more and Sniper is @ $1000 less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Choro View Post
    Yikes. I thought the Lux was bad at $3k. Maybe they don't actually want to sell frames.
    I don't think they do honestly. The Rallon is $4k.

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    Trying to decide between the 120 tr and the Santa Cruz blur tr. anyone been able to ride both of these yet. Want a bike that I can do xc races on but is capable enough for local trail riding

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    I just contacted Orbea USA about availability for the OIZ 100mm or 120mm with Eagle or XTR. March 2019. Some totally stock models may be available sooner.

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    Interesting. I talked to LBS a few weeks ago and they said projected availability according to Orbea for the M10 TR was late November or December but some of the 100mm stock builds would be available much earlier.

    Either way, you definitely won't be racing this season on the longer travel Oiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgarson View Post
    Interesting. I talked to LBS a few weeks ago and they said projected availability according to Orbea for the M10 TR was late November or December but some of the 100mm stock builds would be available much earlier.

    Either way, you definitely won't be racing this season on the longer travel Oiz.
    Projected delivery dates from Bike Co's, home remodels and dining in Paris all have one thing in common. = They Run Late.

    I hope I am wrong. Having a close look at Canyon Lux (Fall 2018...), SC Blur, Intense Scalpel 120mm. At least the Blur you can purchase.

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    Still no ride impressions?

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    Where is this thing?

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    I'd love to seems some more details too - weight especially. This is really looking like the bike for me, even with the long weight.

    I was seriously about to take the plunge on a Scott Spark 900, which I still think is a good option but the Orbea takes two bottles, is full carbon (the 2019 Spark 910 has a alu rear triangle) and is a better build overall (minus the kind of narrow Mavic wheels)...

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    waiting for updates on this rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    That's a lot cake considering the Epic Ultralite is only few hundo more and Sniper is @ $1000 less.
    When looking at prices, don't forget to factor in Orbea's lifetime warranty.

    I have never needed it but its good to know its there.

    Fantastic bikes.

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    I wish there was some additional ride information just some more articles to geek out over

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    Quote Originally Posted by oab1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErVikingo View Post
    When looking at prices, don't forget to factor in Orbea's lifetime warranty.

    I have never needed it but its good to know its there.

    Fantastic bikes.
    How does the lifetime warranty of theirs factor into being that much more than other frames with lifetime warranty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    How does the lifetime warranty of theirs factor into being that much more than other frames with lifetime warranty?
    The whole pricing argument is silly. There are always products thar cost more or less.

    Buy what you see as a value or can afford.

    Bikes cost what they do because people buy them at that price. Basic economics.
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    We just got word today that we'll have some M10 TRs at my store as soon as the first week of December with more scheduled to ship as early as January.

    My personal LTD should be in my grubby hands before the end of January. I'm super excited to add this to the stable. I've been riding a Rallon since July and loving every second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    The whole pricing argument is silly. There are always products thar cost more or less.

    Buy what you see as a value or can afford.

    Bikes cost what they do because people buy them at that price. Basic economics.
    OK how about addressing my point?

    I quoted someone specifically saying you had to take into account the lifetime warranty to account for cost- I pointed out that there are cheaper frames that also have lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    OK how about addressing my point?

    I quoted someone specifically saying you had to take into account the lifetime warranty to account for cost- I pointed out that there are cheaper frames that also have lifetime.
    There are also more expensive frames without a lifetime warranty. Scott Spark comes to mind. The Epic also has a lifetime warranty and is $250 more than the Oiz. There are also bikes that are less expensive and have lifetime warranties (Santa Cruz Blur). Pre this year Yeti's didn't have lifetime warranties and were right in this price range. I guess it comes down to buy what you like or what you see as a good value.

    I personally ride Ibis (Ripley & Ripmo), so I don't have any personal stake in Orbea. My Ripley is getting a little tired (got it when they first came out in 2013) so I have my eye out for a light XC 29er to replace it. The Oiz is high on the list, but waiting to see one first. The Intense Sniper looks good too, but the 2 water bottle capability of the Oiz really has me intrigued. I like the look of the Fezarri Signal Peak, but it will end up being nearly the same weight as my Ripley frame. Maybe Ibis or Pivot will come out with something awesome by spring (fingers crossed)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlechnow View Post
    I personally ride Ibis (Ripley & Ripmo), so I don't have any personal stake in Orbea. My Ripley is getting a little tired (got it when they first came out in 2013) so I have my eye out for a light XC 29er to replace it. The Oiz is high on the list, but waiting to see one first. The Intense Sniper looks good too, but the 2 water bottle capability of the Oiz really has me intrigued. I like the look of the Fezarri Signal Peak, but it will end up being nearly the same weight as my Ripley frame. Maybe Ibis or Pivot will come out with something awesome by spring (fingers crossed)?
    I'm in the same boat and looking at the same frames as you are. The thing I like about some of the these frames is a higher BB with a 120mm fork. I slapped a 120 34 SC on the Ripley, but I have a feeling the BB is going to be too low for my taste. The Signal Peak has the same BB height with a 120 as the Ripley does with a 140.

    I was only trying to point out the ridiculousness of the quoted statement.
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