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    'Social Distancing'...what's your plan?

    Well, when I think of social distancing, I, like many of you, gladly consider cycling as a worthy option.

    What will you do with your solo time? Other than biking and shakin' it out...
    The only important thing these days, is rhythm and melody. Rhythm...and melody.

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    Wash my hands and carry on......

    with my hitherto Conservative social distancing lifestyle.

    Socialism spreads disease donchaknow.....

    (OK OK I’ll add a smiley so as not to be offensive)

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    I’ll stay away from old people until I feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curveball View Post
    I’ll stay away from old people until I feel better.
    Doing the same. I caught a cold from my wife.

    I was going to call my elderly in-laws and see if they needed me to get them anything from the grocers, but I suspect they won't want me near them until I'm in the clear.
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    I find that I have distanced myself from others for years. I guess I was hip before it was cool. thats still a saying right?
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    I do not need to change much, just not go to work, and that decision has already been made for me... at least I can work on my biking fitness again Always an upside...
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    Nearly 10 straight days of rain forecast here -- not much riding for me.
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    i already dislike people and try to stay away from them in general. i assume i will just carry on...


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    Nearly 10 straight days of rain forecast here -- not much riding for me.
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    Lol!^^

    I work from home but in the industry that always tanks first, so we will see.

    As far as riding..I'm actually injured, I fell of a Vespa on Sunday, and fkd up my ankle. I'm down for a couple of weeks at least.
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    wasn't in italy was it?
    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    I'm staying out of Costco. Meanwhile, with all this rain it looks like I'll just be Zwifting for a while, so there's that. This also gives me an excuse to avoid taking my girls to girl scouts and dance classes. Yay me.
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    I'm thinking Social Media distancing for me.
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    'Social Distancing'...what's your plan?

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    I just use my personality. Works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSU Alum View Post
    I just use my personality. Works great.
    Are you a drummer? Cuz we use our personalities as contraception, you know.
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    For the last time I told you to stay out of my backyard lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    For the last time I told you to stay out of my backyard lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Are you a drummer? Cuz we use our personalities as contraception, you know.
    Yeah, I can attest to the validity, it works like a charm!
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    You do know that it's a free service in the current. It's a very generous industry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankout View Post
    You do know that it's a free service in the current. It's a very generous industry!
    Talk about "community spreading."
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    Quote Originally Posted by tubbnation View Post
    Yeah, I can attest to the validity, it works like a charm!
    We drummers tend to be energetic and impulsive, and live in our own world of constant rhythm. Biking is the perfect fit.
    The only important thing these days, is rhythm and melody. Rhythm...and melody.

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    one thing I try to do when possible is snipe roadie groups, and get on the back and mess with them just by being on mtb tires and they cannot drop me easily (when I am in the right mode and in shape to make that power)....I am gonna pass on getting behind any groups of anyone anywhere for the time being....
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    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
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    We the people ...

    Both my company and my wife's are making working from home mandatory. My work is only offering webinars and phone calls. Non-essential face-to-face meetings are prohibited.

    If/when we go to the grocery store, it will be between 5am-8am when they open. Fewer people. Same with getting gas or getting prescriptions filled.

    We will still mtb when/where we want providing there are no other events (ie. races or ass-hat 30+ rider group mtb rides). We will still walk our dogs in the neighborhood.

    Entertainment is limited to streaming services. The movie industry is taking a HUGE hit.

    We are eliminating eating out (had a bad experience at lunch with a lady with a nasty cough).

    A few other hacks:
    1. Wash/rinse the tops of all beer cans and bottles before opening. I've been doing this for year but it seems more rational now.
    2. Amazon / package delivery. Boxes are opened outside. Packaging is opened outside. None of that comes into the home. Hands are washed immediately afterwards.
    3. Using a lysol fabric treatment for our wash. Started using this 2 years ago when I figured out it elimated sweat smells from our ride clothes. Basically it elminates bacteria so our clothes don't reak.
    4. Bought an extra drive train. Been doing this for years as well--we take a lot of road trips. Sucks to be stranded at the trail head on vacation with a bent chainring. I suspect there will be supply issues with mtb parts (and beyond) once the economy straightens out.
    5. Stocked up on dog food. Yeah, most people like toilet paper more than their pups. I love my dogs so I made sure we have at least a 6+ week supply. (where are my priorities?)
    6. Checking in on my parents, uncles and aunts regulary. Took a lot of effort, but I convinced them that going to church is no longer viable for them. Shortly there after, the bishop issued a statement recommending forgoing church and watching services online or on TV instead.
    7. Try and be a good person. Probably biggest challenge and most important task on my list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    Doing the same. I caught a cold from my wife.

    I was going to call my elderly in-laws and see if they needed me to get them anything from the grocers, but I suspect they won't want me near them until I'm in the clear.
    Wait. So your wife. She's old? I'm sure she'd love to hear you say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Wait. So your wife. She's old? I'm sure she'd love to hear you say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Being an introvert living in a remote mountain community has its advantages.
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    My nearest neighbor is 400 yards away and is a hermit. He told me so. George is a nice guy but doesn't like people.

    I work outside and 90% of the time alone. My wife works in an environmental lab so it's already a sterile environment. We don't have kids. I guess we have been social distancing before it was cool.

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    Instead of the weekly visits to the strip club, I will limit my "social" visits to the full release massage parlor, only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgzilla View Post
    Instead of the weekly visits to the strip club, I will limit my "social" visits to the full release massage parlor, only.
    Be sure she cleans her hands well with a Lysol wet wipe before she starts. And rubs you down with one once you, I mean she, finishes.

    One of my coworkers was an army medic and a EMT and he always works at Burning Man as an EMT. He said they always have cases of people using Lysol or similar wipes on sensitive areas, either not realizing that they are not the same as baby wipes or grabby the wrong one in the dark.
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    We don't need excuses to be awkward loners!

    My wife suggested virtual happy hour with distant friends. I think that could be a winner. If acute lung injury doesn't get us, cirrhosis will.

    Really glad with the time change. Can get after work rides in easily.

    It's also freezing in Bham, and with the extra food we bought taking up the fridge, I can chill beer by just leaving it outside the kitchen window.

    No tourists coming to Bellingham. Trails are empty, good. AirBnB income totally flat lined, badness.

    But the real disaster ... What Inslee expects us to do with kids out of school for five weeks I don't know. I remember once being snowed in for five days with my sister and mother... It was so dreadfully boring, but now I realize how much worse it was for my mother who had to put up with the two of us whining for a week.

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    ^^lol!

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    I just had a weird thought today --- what if the virus wiped out all overly social extroverts and only left Picard-like introverts, due to social/spacial isolation. Could the world recover? OK, don't answer that. Could humanity recover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scatterbrained View Post
    I'm staying out of Costco. Meanwhile, with all this rain it looks like I'll just be Zwifting for a while, so there's that. This also gives me an excuse to avoid taking my girls to girl scouts and dance classes. Yay me.

    I hate Costco. The parking lot is always a mess, huge SUV's with people who don't know how to drive them. And then...you finally get inside, and now huge carts with angry soccer moms pushing them through crowds like they own the cart lane. You go in to save $10 and end up spending $200 on CRAP. But hey, it's bulk crap that will last for weeks, is that supposed to make someone feel accomplished? And last but not least, the uncaring, rude checkout clerks that don't take credit cards, no hello, no thank you, just a get out of here, move along, next. Makes Walmart look not so bad. I'd seriously rather shop next to trailer trash idiots in Walmart than pissed off middle-class penny pinchers that don't need to save money in the first place, but have to because it's an obsession, not a necessity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richj8990 View Post
    I hate Costco. The parking lot is always a mess, huge SUV's with people who don't know how to drive them. And then...you finally get inside, and now huge carts with angry soccer moms pushing them through crowds like they own the cart lane. You go in to save $10 and end up spending $200 on CRAP. But hey, it's bulk crap that will last for weeks, is that supposed to make someone feel accomplished? And last but not least, the uncaring, rude checkout clerks that don't take credit cards, no hello, no thank you, just a get out of here, move along, next. Makes Walmart look not so bad. I'd seriously rather shop next to trailer trash idiots in Walmart than pissed off middle-class penny pinchers that don't need to save money in the first place, but have to because it's an obsession, not a necessity.
    Remind me of which Costco you shop at so I can avoid it. I've never had a bad experience at a Costco, but it might be the hours that I shop too. As far as "pinching pennies even when they don't need to". Minding your money is part of the difference between the mentality that makes people successful and the mentality that keeps people poor, just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richj8990 View Post
    I just had a weird thought today --- what if the virus wiped out all overly social extroverts and only left Picard-like introverts, due to social/spacial isolation. Could the world recover? OK, don't answer that. Could humanity recover.
    A world with no telemarketers, car salesmen or politicians? Sounds like a fair trade to me.
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    MTB and gravel riding. I do a hacky sack style foot tap when I see others out and about.

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    Hawking old computer and bike gear on eBay when they offer 50% off final value fees (for up to 5 items) each month.

    Going through more of my mother's stuff that I moved into my house (she passed last year) and continuing to go through my mother-in-law's stuff (she passed the year before).
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    Quote Originally Posted by edubfromktown View Post
    Hawking old computer and bike gear on eBay when they offer 50% off final value fees (for up to 5 items) each month.
    Sounds like a good plan. I'd do similar except most of my excess stuff is camping gear and I'm not sure it's wise to give up any of that ATM.

    Going through more of my mother's stuff that I moved into my house (she passed last year) and continuing to go through my mother-in-law's stuff (she passed the year before).
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    I've been socially distant for 50 years. No new plans here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    Sounds like a good plan. I'd do similar except most of my excess stuff is camping gear and I'm not sure it's wise to give up any of that ATM.

    Sorry for your losses.
    Thanks... both lived into their 90's so, lives well lived for sure!

    As a caregiver to an aging parent, it changes one's perspective quite dramatically on what is important and shuffles the deck on life's priorities, in a good way.
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    Have 3-4 weeks, hopefully, of supply on hand. Roll with the punches for the next lil while looking more likely.
    Went to supermarket this morning. Aside from a couple of douches people continue to impress me. Be kind, it helps everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by edubfromktown View Post
    Thanks... both lived into their 90's so, lives well lived for sure!

    As a caregiver to an aging parent, it changes one's perspective quite dramatically on what is important and shuffles the deck on life's priorities, in a good way.
    I'm just now having to take action amidst this worldwide state of emergency. My mom all of a sudden needs a walker to get around. I'm trying to see it "in a good way" light, and I think I've made some progress towards that. If I could only get through to my stubborn ass dad, lol!
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    Have 3-4 weeks, hopefully, of supply on hand. Roll with the punches for the next lil while looking more likely.
    Same.

    I'm thinking of putting a note into all my neighbors' mailboxes, advertising our willingness to provide in-case-of-emergency items, like enough T.P. or canned foods to get through a couple days. No reimbursement expected, just consider "paying it back or forward." We're not hoarding, but we're pretty resourceful and have connections.
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    an anecdote and a bit of a confession. the other day i was walking into lowe's to pick some washers or some such thing. i saw a woman who had just bought several big bags of potting soil and a few other heavy items. without thinking i offered to help and she accepted. as i walked away i started getting an uneasy feeling. what did i just do? what would mtbr do? with horror i realized i totally messed up. proper mtbr protocol would dictate that i stand back and criticize and mock. " you're not doing enough. you suck. i hate you. "

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    It occurred to me a little earlier today, driving behind an Amazon van, that porch thefts might start ramping up, especially for large packages that look like they contain consumables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    Same.

    I'm thinking of putting a note into all my neighbors' mailboxes, advertising our willingness to provide in-case-of-emergency items, like enough T.P. or canned foods to get through a couple days. No reimbursement expected, just consider "paying it back or forward." We're not hoarding, but we're pretty resourceful and have connections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    It occurred to me a little earlier today, driving behind an Amazon van, that porch thefts might start ramping up, especially for large packages that look like they contain consumables.
    And then comes home robbery for toilet paper. Yesterday I talked to a Scheels [large sporting good super store] employee. He said they’ve been very busy. Busiest department was guns and ammo. People are buying guns and ammo to protect against TP theft. He said, that some even stated it. Wack jobs, these are the type that bring on chaos in a state of emergency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    It occurred to me a little earlier today, driving behind an Amazon van, that porch thefts might start ramping up, especially for large packages that look like they contain consumables.
    At least where I'm at most people don't want to go that far out and you can't get to my house with Google maps. Unless you want to drive through someone else's house. Half the time amazon can't find my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    At least where I'm at most people don't want to go that far out and you can't get to my house with Google maps. Unless you want to drive through someone else's house. Half the time amazon can't find my house.
    My house is the same way. You Goog the address and it's way, way off. Fine by me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    At least where I'm at most people don't want to go that far out and you can't get to my house with Google maps. Unless you want to drive through someone else's house. Half the time amazon can't find my house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    My house is the same way. You Goog the address and it's way, way off. Fine by me!
    I have sort of the opposite problem - people I WANT to find my house can't. Specifically, Uber's app routes the driver to the back of my property which faces a slightly more busy street than where my actual address is. I have a canned text message that I just copy & paste to every driver as soon as they become my ride.
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    Also doesn't help that as soon as you turn on my street all cell service is lost. You can literally draw a line in the road where you loose it. It's about a 1/4 mile walk so we just go out that way if we Uber to cave creek.

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    There’s no appropriate thread to post the Coronavirus stuff since that thread was closed. I choose this one for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    Same.

    I'm thinking of putting a note into all my neighbors' mailboxes, advertising our willingness to provide in-case-of-emergency items, like enough T.P. or canned foods to get through a couple days. No reimbursement expected, just consider "paying it back or forward." We're not hoarding, but we're pretty resourceful and have connections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    Same.

    I'm thinking of putting a note into all my neighbors' mailboxes,.
    "I left you this note, hopefully it's not full of germs"



    Stopped at a gas station for milk (because we actually needed some, not hoarding it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Rider View Post
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    Ha; didn't realize that, but good catch!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    "I left you this note, hopefully it's not full of germs"
    Ha, that crossed my mind.

    But one of the neighbors parked in front of my house where I usually park, so F them. They're on their own.
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    Got a text last night from the job I was supposed to go to today; they're flying their daughter home from NY and she has to self quarantine for two weeks. They said she's asymptomatic and I could still work, but understand if I didn't want to, I'm staying away.

    What's the antonym for social in this case? Would it be 'professional distancing'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I'm just now having to take action amidst this worldwide state of emergency. My mom all of a sudden needs a walker to get around. I'm trying to see it "in a good way" light, and I think I've made some progress towards that. If I could only get through to my stubborn ass dad, lol!
    Good luck with that...

    My mom had a walker the last ~3 years and she got to falling at times (and transported to the ER oh geeze like 10x at least).

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    I saw a millennial trying to be funny yesterday. Standing on a busy street corner dressed half like a clown. Didn’t have the whole outfit. He had a large sign draped over his neck that read, “Not Homeless just need Toilet Paper. I did a double take as I drove by as he saw my face he busted out laughing. I’m sure he’s just looking for notoriety on the Internet. Someone taking a photo and posting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    And then comes home robbery for toilet paper. Yesterday I talked to a Scheels [large sporting good super store] employee. He said they’ve been very busy. Busiest department was guns and ammo. People are buying guns and ammo to protect against TP theft. He said, that some even stated it. Wack jobs, these are the type that bring on chaos in a state of emergency.
    Look I'm just saying that I ain't hoarding toilet paper or food, but if someone breaks into my house and I'm home they're gonna at least get shot at a little bit.

    I went hiking yesterday with two friends. Pretty good way to social distance, kinda. If course my office is still open for now and we have folks that travel around the country and work in... Plus all of the visitors at the main garden...
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    For me life goes on, except I missed my window to fly to Ireland to be with my wife. At work, here in a So Cal hospital, not a single co worker knows of a real case of this. Wife works in an old folks home. She hasn't heard of a case either. Good friend also works in an old folks home in Reykjavik. Hasn't heard of a real case either. So, life goes on and the pub has refused to close. The sheep are panicked and hoarding. Something they should've prepped for long ago living on top of the San Andreas Fault. Ski hill is still open too.
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    Good deed for the day: helped some young guy jump start his car. He approached me when I was pumping gas at the station. Normally people who do that are looking for "bus money," so I'm glad I didn't preempt him with my usual "no I can't help you." His car was a few blocks away. I almost offered to drive him over to it but (a) that's almost never a good idea in the first place, and (b) social distancing. So I just drove around the block and met him there. Car started, he and his friend were off to work, I was off to buy more groceries.

    Furrowed brow deed of the day: I was checking my groceries at the self-service lane and some fukcing Karen* asked if I would buy her 2 gallons of drinking water, since there's a 2-gallon per person limit, she already had 2 and I "…wasn't buying any for myself, anyway." I told her politely, no, I would not do that for her. She sort of huffed and walked away.

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    We went for a hike yesterday. That was the most people ever, in the history of the world, to park in that lot on the same day. So much for my attempt at social distancing.

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    haven't done anything drastically different. wife and I are introverts, too.

    We did a big grocery shopping trip a little bit ago, so probably have enough food for quite awhile. Made sure we're stocked on pet food. I've already been buying large supplies of TP online for awhile now, and had a roughly 1yr supply delivered a couple weeks before the virus hit the news.

    Went for a ride yesterday with a few friends. Also - no tourists, and fairly empty trails. Plenty of locals out in the woods, though, because so many people work from home here already.


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    First confirmed case in the county announced today. Tourist who started having symptoms while in town last week. Got tested, went home to quarantine. Results are back as positive, and now health officials are trying to track down close exposures.

    My neighborhood has had a Facebook group up, and folks are stepping up and offering assistance when needed. It's early, so nobody needs anything yet. A fair number of us tend to be generally well prepared, since we live just far enough out of town that we need it for general preparedness' sake, especially in the wintertime.

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    I’ll be social distancing myself as far away from this shit for brains individual as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    I’ll be social distancing myself as far away from this shit for brains individual as I can.

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    Nothing on that seat could be worse than her current case of affluenza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Nothing on that seat could be worse than her current case of affluenza.
    "In case of a water landing, forget the life vest under your seat and use TikTok chick's skeezy piehole."
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    Trap for the Loonies baited with toilet paper.....

    May prove to be effective gene pool enhancement tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    "In case of a water landing, forget the life vest under your seat and use TikTok chick's skeezy piehole."
    Dude could you imagine macking on some chick and learning she licks toilet seats because she's an idiot that craves attention. Some dudes would still not care, but damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude could you imagine macking on some chick and learning she licks toilet seats because she's an idiot that craves attention. Some dudes would still not care, but damn.
    I feel like this is directed at me. I'm offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    For me life goes on, except I missed my window to fly to Ireland to be with my wife. At work, here in a So Cal hospital, not a single co worker knows of a real case of this. Wife works in an old folks home. She hasn't heard of a case either. Good friend also works in an old folks home in Reykjavik. Hasn't heard of a real case either. So, life goes on and the pub has refused to close. The sheep are panicked and hoarding. Something they should've prepped for long ago living on top of the San Andreas Fault. Ski hill is still open too.
    I don't know what you are trying to say Vader. Because some people you know or have heard of have no seen a case of this yet, it is somehow less of a threat? We are only at the start of things just now. Maybe look at some news on RAI rather than make up opinions based on a very narrow perspective?
    I wouldn't set foot in your pub for all the tea in China! Anyone who does is an idiot and supremely selfish and irresponsible. Those 'sheep' are your fellow humans who are scared because this is real. They may be misguided, but that's because they have no proper guidance.
    I am sorry you are separated from your wife, that will suck I am sure. My daughter is in the UK, and already sick and compromised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude could you imagine macking on some chick and learning she licks toilet seats because she's an idiot that craves attention.
    I can imagine that's not the grossest thing she's stuck that tongue on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    I feel like this is directed at me. I'm offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
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    But was it on video??? That's the burning question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    I mean, if... If you are that guy then it was. Yeah.But was it on video??? That's the burning question.
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    it's s shame that this is at my office. guess I will have to go to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    For me life goes on, except I missed my window to fly to Ireland to be with my wife. At work, here in a So Cal hospital, not a single co worker knows of a real case of this. Wife works in an old folks home. She hasn't heard of a case either. Good friend also works in an old folks home in Reykjavik. Hasn't heard of a real case either. So, life goes on and the pub has refused to close. The sheep are panicked and hoarding. Something they should've prepped for long ago living on top of the San Andreas Fault. Ski hill is still open too.
    What part of SoCal are you in? I know it's in LA and it's here in San Diego now too. I'll take your personal anecdote as a hopeful sign that it's not spreading as quickly as some fear it could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzarkFathom View Post
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    LOL! I'll lie and say I had the foresight to think of this and thank you for getting my reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    For me life goes on, except I missed my window to fly to Ireland to be with my wife. At work, here in a So Cal hospital, not a single co worker knows of a real case of this. Wife works in an old folks home. She hasn't heard of a case either. Good friend also works in an old folks home in Reykjavik. Hasn't heard of a real case either. So, life goes on and the pub has refused to close. The sheep are panicked and hoarding. Something they should've prepped for long ago living on top of the San Andreas Fault. Ski hill is still open too.
    Remind me what this means....

    Just because you and 2 other people haven't PERSONALLY heard of any cases means pretty much nothing. Or next to nothing. You don't know everybody at the hospital so I'm cancelling that out.
    Not enough tests to determine how many 'may' be carrying the virus.
    Or people haven't spoken up that have symptoms.
    Just becuase you haven't heard of a case doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    You are 'acting' like you are part of the problem. Maybe it's just words you use on the internet to make it sound like you live in a paradise that can't be affected and that you can't pass/contract the virus.
    By part of the problem I mean carrying on like there is no reason for concern.

    We have ONE reported case in the county I live in. I don'k now the person, so maybe it's just a lie on the news since I can't say I know of anybody here with the virus.
    Doesn't mean I should distance myself from people. I may have it and breath on somebody, no idea! Plus I don't want to be in a situation where I can contract it and therefore, pass it on to others.

    I get what you are saying, but the way you've been carrying on pretty much sounds like you don't believe there is even a virus moving about.
    I'm sorry you can't be with your wife but am excited that you can't go on the trip -based on your actions in a previous post you made.

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    Simple common sense, even with the limited information that is pretty reliable concerning the geometrical spread potential under reasonable transmission assumptions and incubation period, makes a two week nationwide imitation of my own regular Conservative lifestyle prudent.


    We won’t know the full scope until later and most of the stories on both sides are merely anecdotal and speculative. But in a conversation it is reasonable and natural for folks to respond from their own first hand perspective. Especially in response to relentless venting from an opposite perspective.
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    A good friend, emergency care doc shared this with me. Thought it would be good to post up

    Hey everyone,

    I thought I would write this to shed some light on my own experience with Coronavirus over the last 72 hours in my ER. Currently I work in White plains and I was supposed to start a new position in their observation unit March 1st ( this is basically a urgent care) within the ER but they asked me if would volunteer for their "COVID" station and without hesitation I agreed.

    First of all it has been affecting all ages except people under 17 years old and the sickest patients that I have seen have been females from 20 - 40 years old with no previous medical history.

    The contagiousness of a disease is recorded by something called an R value. Currently the R value of coronavirus is a 2 to 4 meaning its on the same wavelength as the FLU. Just because you have been in direct contact with someone or even sleep next to someone does not mean that you are going to acquire it. It is spread through something called droplet meaning that a regular mask will help but you need something called an N - 95 mask which lets smaller particles through for true protection. If you really want pure protection you need a PAPR( powered air purifying respirator) which is something that I wear when evaluating patients ( see picture below )

    The virulence of the disease has been interesting to me. I have sent home multiple people with just mild cough and body aches. The persons who have been really sick have been presenting more with abdominal pain . Temperature has not really been indicative of COVID 19. Their are 2 main things I am seeing on lab values that are correlating with worse morbidity and that is lymphopenia and elevated liver functions primarily AST and alk phos. ( going back to above probably related to the abdominal pain.)

    The course of the disease is also very indolent until day 3 - 5 where a very small amount of patients are presenting with ARDS ( acute respiratory distress syndrome) this is a fancy word for meaning patients lungs are filling up with fluid due to something called interstitial capillary leak. We have intubated a handful of healthy young individuals due to this progression. We have not had any deaths at our hospital yet however we have needed the help of positive airway pressure these are those masks that people wear called BIPAP ( very similar to the CPAP masks that you use for sleep apnea. ) If you continue to need more airway pressure then you have to be intubated and may require something called ECMO ( extra corporal membrane oxygenation : fancy word for a lung machine.) It basically bypasses your lungs and breathes for you. We have had only 1 case over the last weekend requiring this.

    Overall in a 72 hour period of seeing coronavirus patients the majority of them are coming in complaining of cough / malaise ( not feeling well). Few have been healthy young adults requiring intubation.

    The things we have found out about treating these patients is that NOT giving IV fluids is key ( this is something that goes against every principle about acute care medicine ) . Also some medications that have been helping are antivirals ( ketruda ) something we use for AIDS and also hydroxychloroquine something we use for rheumatological disease like arthritis. Steroids do not seem to help so far from what I have observed.

    Overall I have been asked a million questions and I made a small Q and A here :

    Can children get it?
    I have seen zero people under the age of 17 with coronavirus. I believe this is because the virus likes to attack mature lymphocytes which are not yet competent in children so they are not being affected.

    Is the virus only affecting the elderly?
    Definitely not. The sickest patients at our hospital have been young healthy women from the ages of 20 - 40

    Is there medications to combat this?
    no there are none currently that a proven effective however we are using 2 medications which may help. Chloroquine helps to block viral entry into the cells. Keytruda is something called a protease inhibitor used in HIV / AIDS patients to help stop the replication of the virus.

    What are the most typical symptoms?
    Cough and fever. There have been multiple presentations of the disease so it is hard to diagnose just by physical exam.

    Can you get tested for it? and should you get tested for it?
    Yes you can get tested for it. I have tested over 50 people the last 3 days and the turnaround time was about 2 days however this will be prolonged with more tests being taken. However testing does not change your overall outcome of the disease. If you are experiencing significant signs of shortness of breath we will admit you to the hospital. If you are experiencing typical flu like symptoms the smartest thing is to remain at home and try and ride it out.

    What is the mortality rate?
    Its impossible to determine because we cannot accurately say how many people have the disease since most are walking around asymptomatic. However you can calculate the case fatality rate which is 3.4 % from multiple sources I have read

    Will hospitals be able to handle this?
    yes. for now. My hospital has done a great job of creating negative pressure beds which helps stop the spread of the virus and they have given us the highest level of protective gear. They have moved out as many patients as possible to gear up for this upcoming week.

    Is there a vaccine for it?
    No. Vaccines take a while for virus'

    Is the Quarantine necessary ?
    Yes for now. This helps hospitals not be overwhelmed especially if we need ventilators / ECMO machines to help those in real need.

    How long is the quarantine?
    We are mandating 2 weeks

    I have included a great one page summary of Coronavirus that was forwarded to me from a friend who is currently working at an ICU in Seattle. Overall I believe the government did the right thing of shutting everything down so we could get a hold of this thing and understand its true potential. Only time will tell to see how this virus truly behaves over the next week. I hope this was insightful for those who have been worried. As of right now I am not that concerned about it but this may change... I have only been dealing with this disease for 72 hours.

    Stay safe everyone I hope this helps from my own personal experience. Feel free to share this with friends if it helps put them at ease. Also if anyone has any questions feel free to ask

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    LOL! I'll lie and say I had the foresight to think of this and thank you for getting my reference.
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    Two weeks ago I spoke to a nurse in Santa Clara County. Six patients on respirators, of all ages. Even those who don't go full ICU may have lung damage.

    I saw idiots in my social media feeds posting about their St Patrick's parties... So now the SF bay area is in shelter in place (misdemeanor to travel except for essentials) and all of WA is just a step away. Thanks, you jerks.

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    So deploying a barrier of calcium carbonate or silicon dioxide around your respiratory system's intake is not an effective preventative measure?

    Whoulda thunk?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by richj8990 View Post
    I hate Costco. The parking lot is always a mess, huge SUV's with people who don't know how to drive them. And then...you finally get inside, and now huge carts with angry soccer moms pushing them through crowds like they own the cart lane. You go in to save $10 and end up spending $200 on CRAP. But hey, it's bulk crap that will last for weeks, is that supposed to make someone feel accomplished? And last but not least, the uncaring, rude checkout clerks that don't take credit cards, no hello, no thank you, just a get out of here, move along, next. Makes Walmart look not so bad. I'd seriously rather shop next to trailer trash idiots in Walmart than pissed off middle-class penny pinchers that don't need to save money in the first place, but have to because it's an obsession, not a necessity.

    good. it will be that much less crowded without you there.

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    Bay Area in lockdown. All schools in New York State closed. Restaurants and bars closed in dozens of states and cities. Orangutan leader of the free world holds a news conference and actually says this will be around until summer and might actually be serious.

    Clearly the fear of &deity has been scared into our officials.

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    didn't think person to person communications was even a thing any more. even if Starbucks was open, its just a bunch of people with their electronic devices in their faces. social distancing is synonymous with social media

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    'Social Distancing'...what's your plan?-d1135871-0c40-4c26-addb-e16d5320c398.jpg'Social Distancing'...what's your plan?-27fd1ac0-1ff1-4087-810c-b37000888991.jpg

    My wife and I will just keep doing what we do, except we can’t hold hands when we jump off the bluff, social distancing. Definitely going to be avoiding any crowds. Just turned down dinner date with friends. Over-reacting? Maybe. But we will be playing it safe for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceWeaklegs View Post
    didn't think person to person communications was even a thing any more. even if Starbucks was open, its just a bunch of people with their electronic devices in their faces. social distancing is synonymous with social media
    I say this respectfully, you might want to get out of the house a little more.

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    My wife and I will just keep doing what we do, except we can’t hold hands when we jump off the bluff, social distancing. Definitely going to be avoiding any crowds. Just turned down dinner date with friends. Over-reacting? Maybe. But we will be playing it safe for a while.
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    We wear dry suits. We actually get hot so jumping in the water is nice, even when it’s 46*
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim208 View Post
    I say this respectfully, you might want to get out of the house a little more.
    Lol, respectful laugh.
    Yep, I need “some” socializing to stay sane. Locked in a house in a bedroom quarantined for weeks on end. Especially without food & toilet paper sounds like hell.

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    This was posted in the NorCal forum by esteemed x-moderator 5k, and it may be coming to your town!

    https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/Dis...er-031620.aspx

    Go to article 10 for the rundown on what will be allowed.
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    Good Lord, by the time y’all read that thang this’ll all be over.

    We got one of those notices in Mississippi.

    Much simpler.

    Wash your hands.

    Use common sense.

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    Again Oz, you gotta remember, IT’S NOT BAD YET WHERE YOU ARE. When your hospitals get overwhelmed, things are going to be very different than the officials telling you to wash your hands. Maybe then you can change your standard spew.
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    I say, I say, It’s a joke Son....

    ( I guess that Mississippi segregation thing went over your head....)

    Still I don’t think our citizenry will have to have all of the details in that document spelled out for them. If they did, they probably couldn’t read it anyway.

    “standard spew”.......Nice touch.

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    We're now on a three week shelter-in-place in much of the SF Bay Area. Glad to have trails out my door.

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    Thanks for sharing TheMeat.

    Confirms that it's similar to Flu status. No need to freak the hell out ("ahem", everyone that shops at grocery stores I frequent) but taking some REASONABLE precautions won't hurt. The cold it's self isn't that bad.

    Personally I'm not worried, and frankly if it gets worse in the next week or two I'm honestly not opposed to just getting it and getting it over with. Not being able to transmit it in the future is a perk IMO. I'd rather be ahead of the curve and get back to normality.

    If it's coming and there's nothing I can do to stop it, bring it on. Big deal, I've been sick before.

    I'm more interested in keeping the economy afloat. Right now too many people are focused on how much toilet paper they can stash in their closet, what is that going to solve? What they should be focused on is the financial impact of what is coming.

    I applaud The Fed for getting out ahead of it, at least they don't have their heads in the sand.

    I just signed up for a mountain bike race series that starts in May. I hope they don't cancel it. I honestly think the worst will be over before then. Sadly I also just heard that the Gravel Race series I was planning on doing for the first time ever is canceled/postponed. That was supposed to start April 11 ish I think.

    Outdoor events like small bike races are not a major concern for spreading Corona. There are never large crowds, the racers rarely kiss while competing, likewise the "fans" don't typically make out either.
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    Glad to have trails out my door.
    They can lock you up for that.


    Please read this Order carefully. Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both. (California Health and Safety Code § 120295, et seq.)
    UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF CALIFORNIA HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE SECTIONS 101040, 101085, AND 120175, THE HEALTH OFFICER OF THE COUNTY OF SANTA CLARA ("HEALTH OFFICER") ORDERS:
    All travel, including, but not limited to, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit, except Essential Travel and Essential Activities as defined below in Section 10, is prohibited.

    Should good citizens report people who violate this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    Thanks for sharing TheMeat.

    Confirms that it's similar to Flu status. No need to freak the hell out ("ahem", everyone that shops at grocery stores I frequent) but taking some REASONABLE precautions won't hurt. The cold it's self isn't that bad.

    Personally I'm not worried, and frankly if it gets worse in the next week or two I'm honestly not opposed to just getting it and getting it over with. Not being able to transmit it in the future is a perk IMO. I'd rather be ahead of the curve and get back to normality.

    If it's coming and there's nothing I can do to stop it, bring it on. Big deal, I've been sick before.

    I'm more interested in keeping the economy afloat. Right now too many people are focused on how much toilet paper they can stash in their closet, what is that going to solve? What they should be focused on is the financial impact of what is coming.

    I applaud The Fed for getting out ahead of it, at least they don't have their heads in the sand.

    I just signed up for a mountain bike race series that starts in May. I hope they don't cancel it. I honestly think the worst will be over before then. Sadly I also just heard that the Gravel Race series I was planning on doing for the first time ever is canceled/postponed. That was supposed to start April 11 ish I think.

    Outdoor events like small bike races are not a major concern for spreading Corona. There are never large crowds, the racers rarely kiss while competing, likewise the "fans" don't typically make out either.
    Flu my a#$. It may spread like flu, which 9 to 45 million Americans get annually, but the incidence of lung injury is high (worse than 1 in 1000 anyway, maybe 1 in 100-- I wouldn't take that bet). Google ARDS and ALI... you are dead if you don't get to an ICU with a spare ventilator. But hey if this thing can cause your lungs to die, can't it cause non fatal lung damage too? Do you know? Think anyone is checking right now? I googled decreased lung capacity coronavirus and it seems that may be a less publicized risk. Wanna huff and puff on the trails like a smoker for the rest of your life? I'll pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitek View Post
    Flu my a#$. It may spread like flu, which 9 to 45 million Americans get annually, but the incidence of lung injury is high (worse than 1 in 1000 anyway, maybe 1 in 100-- I wouldn't take that bet). Google ARDS and ALI... you are dead if you don't get to an ICU with a spare ventilator. But hey if this thing can cause your lungs to die, can't it cause non fatal lung damage too? Do you know? Think anyone is checking right now? I googled decreased lung capacity coronavirus and it seems that may be a less publicized risk. Wanna huff and puff on the trails like a smoker for the rest of your life? I'll pass.
    It's good to be informed, and thanks for sharing. Some people are more at risk than others, statistically.

    I'm not worried, and not opposed personally. If I get it I'll happily shelter in place for the recommended time period so as not to expose anyone else to it. No hospitalization necessary.

    I understand not everyone feels the way I do. I'd say there's a 50% chance it will happen at this point. I'm already over it.

    In a city of 500,000 there are 8 cases currently, all in isolation. Just 8. Yes, I'm well aware it will get worse before it gets better, but I'm not concerned about my personal health. Like I said, there are more serious economic impacts in the works.
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    One speed’s seeming lack of concern and lack of knowledge as to how this can spread is worrying too. Even our feckless leader has now advised not to gather in numbers greater than 10. Either that or his bike race series has only a handful of competitors and even less fans...
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    1 on a bike for recreation is a violation under the above posted SCC order......subject to jail.


    All travel, including, but not limited to, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit, except Essential Travel and Essential Activities as defined below in Section 10, is prohibited.
    https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/Dis...er-031620.aspx

    exception.....

    1. To engage in outdoor activity, provided the individuals comply with Social Distancing Requirements as defined in this Section, such as, by way of example and without limitation, walking, hiking, or running.


    The violation of any provision of this Order constitutes an imminent threat to public health.

    Unless I misconstrue, no bike riding for recreation.
    ”by way of example and without limitation” seems to contradict that, but if it does I’m not sure how that does not negate the intent of the original prohibition.
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    Social Distancing forced.

    The state of Colorado [my home turf] has just shut down all seating at bars and restaurants for 30 days. Tonight being the last night to be at one. I was at a bar / restaurant tonight having dinner when I heard of this. Off to the grocery store I went.

    https://www.cpr.org/2020/03/16/polis...-and-theaters/

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    One speed’s seeming lack of concern and lack of knowledge as to how this can spread is worrying too. Even our feckless leader has now advised not to gather in numbers greater than 10. Either that or his bike race series has only a handful of competitors and even less fans...
    I've heard and read the same things you have about how it spreads most likely. How you interpret that may be different?

    Truth be told I'm a bit of a germaphobe. I wash my hands many many times every day. I don't like the uncleanliness of the general population.

    I'm very careful about my own health, but you nor I know where this whole thing will be in 2 weeks. Certain models show that in many scenarios it's inevitable.

    There's a link around here somewhere, I'm looking for it.

    Here we go.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ona-simulator/
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    Trump was definitely of a different demeanor today.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    I'm honestly not opposed to just getting it and getting it over with. Not being able to transmit it in the future is a perk IMO. I'd rather be ahead of the curve and get back to normality.
    There are at least 100 documented cases of health care workers contracting Covid-19, getting sick then getting better to not testing positive then getting it again.

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    *OneSpeed* I do think your concerns are valid, and I think even if you get it you're less likely to transmit it to others given your stated habits, but that only matters if you are symptomatic and once you've realized you've had it, which could be a while. Some people would feel sick and keep on keeping on. Personally, I won't discredit the risk of permanent long damage. I've heard it's pretty common in recovered patients, young and old. Sure beats being dead, but it would change the quality of life. Think about folks with asbestosis or popcorn lung.

    In terms of economy, my go to bar is going to close for a while tomorrow at 5. I'm thinking about getting a pickup order of corned beef and buying a gift certificate. This would give them money to work with now to stay afloat while they can't make money, and then I'd just get the goods later. Maybe in the spirit of social distancing and not eating things others have touched or been around I should just get the certificate, though, but they make a good meal there.

    I like to think we could all be proactive without being forced to, but too many people think this is just a little bug. If that's what the numbers show we either all did the right thing or we'll all be lucky, but it'll also fuel the "panic over nothing"talk. Too many people also choose to act in nonsensical ways. You don't need to buy out the grocery store. You should always have about a weeks food in store even if you live close to the store, more in store the further away. Just pick up enough for a little while longer. And toilet paper? I don't know how much people use in a couple weeks time, but I think we have six rolls. Can't imagine using more than that.
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    People probably aren’t being re-infected after recovery.

    There has been concern on social media about reports of people getting infected, recovering, and then later developing symptoms again. Some scientists from China have suggested the virus is able to re-infect people after a very short time.

    Van Kerkhove said this probably is not what is happening. In fact, it would be unusual if an immune system that had just fought off a viral invader would forget how to recognize it and fend it off within a period of days or a few weeks.

    What more likely, Van Kerkhove said is this: In order for hospitalized Covid-19 patients to be released after an infection they have to test negative for the virus twice, in tests conducted 24 hours apart. In some cases, people have had the two negative tests — but then tested positive again later.

    Van Kerkhove said those results likely reflect more about the way the tests were conducted than about the status of the patient — how a throat swab was taken, for instance. “I don’t think that they’re actually truly negative and then they get re-infected again. It’s likely that they’re still positive for some time.”

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    Social distancing is critical at this point. Listen to 7:50 of this video. This is Michael Osterholm, one of the world's leading experts on infectious disease. I would imagine he's on Joe Rogan because he knows he's reaching an audience that is in general hard to convince.


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    Another important note is that we in America are WAY more spread out than Euro countries. We also don't kiss on the face when we greet people.

    That is the first I've heard of people getting reinfected, up till now I'd heard you were both immune and couldn't transmit once you got over it.

    Thanks for the link $5k Bike. Good stuff.

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    Looks like I've got Corona!

    Basically, it's a flu and I've had a lot worse. To be honest, by far the most aggravating aspect of this is the precautions that surround it. I need to stay home for seven days from onset of symptoms but what worse is that the rest of the family need to isolate for fourteen!

    This is a problem as my son has a big job interview next week. It's one of these group things so I doubt they'll be able to reschedule it. My wife thinks he'll just be out. I hope not :0(

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    You guys are a bunch of whining little crybabies, I get the Corona virus the first week of May every year....it goes away after some sleep and a day off from work.
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    In the US estimated near 80% of cases are caught from undetected carriers. At this point testing is futile.
    We can either Voluntarily self qt now for a few weeks. Or wait a week or so and be forced to, and count our loses in lives and worse economic impact
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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
    You guys are a bunch of whining little crybabies, I get the Corona virus the first week of May every year....it goes away after some sleep and a day off from work.
    The first full week?
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    Why are we even still debating this?

    This has been obvious for some time now, if we continue to willfully ignore advice and guidance then the volume of shit hitting the fan will increase exponentially each day that passes without strict regulation in place. I mean, if our feckless leader can 'suggest' no more than 10 people in a gathering, it must be serious.

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    Looks like I've got Corona!

    Basically, it's a flu and I've had a lot worse. To be honest, by far the most aggravating aspect of this is the precautions that surround it. I need to stay home for seven days from onset of symptoms but what worse is that the rest of the family need to isolate for fourteen!

    This is a problem as my son has a big job interview next week. It's one of these group things so I doubt they'll be able to reschedule it. My wife thinks he'll just be out. I hope not :0(
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    Looks like I've got Corona!

    Basically, it's a flu and I've had a lot worse. To be honest, by far the most aggravating aspect of this is the precautions that surround it. I need to stay home for seven days from onset of symptoms but what worse is that the rest of the family need to isolate for fourteen!

    This is a problem as my son has a big job interview next week. It's one of these group things so I doubt they'll be able to reschedule it. My wife thinks he'll just be out. I hope not :0(
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    Sorry to hear that, Pig. Hopefully things work out for your son and they can reschedule or do a teleconference. May your symptoms be mild. Unfortunately, though you're the first I've seen here, I doubt you'll be the last.
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    Hope it doesn't take away any of your lung capacity and put you on an ebike!
    Have to be missing a leg before the bike of satan might appeal.

    They're not testing you unless you have a life-threatening condition. Resources I guess. They're using the looks like a duck, walks like a duck diagnosis method.

    Like I said, it's not that bad and that's how it will be for most people. Just a flu. Feel like crap but I've had worse.

    The good news is that my son called about the interview and they're canceling them anyway. Going to do a video interview or something.

    Going to be very bored, stuck in the house for a week :0(

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    Why are we even still debating this?


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    Have to be missing a leg before the bike of satan might appeal.
    lol!

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    I wish you well and a speedy recovery.
    Thank you. Sure I'll be fine in a few says. Fine-ish anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Looks like I've got Corona!

    Basically, it's a flu and I've had a lot worse. To be honest, by far the most aggravating aspect of this is the precautions that surround it. I need to stay home for seven days from onset of symptoms but what worse is that the rest of the family need to isolate for fourteen!

    This is a problem as my son has a big job interview next week. It's one of these group things so I doubt they'll be able to reschedule it. My wife thinks he'll just be out. I hope not :0(
    Sorry to hear that Herr Pig. I hope you are one of the lucky ones, and that the job your son is going for stays open for him in the light of what is going on. Nest week I should think the UK will be pretty much shut down for most anyway, so he may not be the only one who can't make the interview.
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    So am I the first person on the forum to get it? :0)

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    So am I the first person on the forum to get it? :0)


    I guess we don't know, you might have the flu, or a bad cold. Plus since the incubation period is so long half of us here might have it and not have any symptoms yet.

    Regardless though, hope you feel well again soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Looks like I've got Corona!

    Basically, it's a flu and I've had a lot worse. To be honest, by far the most aggravating aspect of this is the precautions that surround it. I need to stay home for seven days from onset of symptoms but what worse is that the rest of the family need to isolate for fourteen!

    This is a problem as my son has a big job interview next week. It's one of these group things so I doubt they'll be able to reschedule it. My wife thinks he'll just be out. I hope not :0(
    Wow, seriously?

    Keep us updated. You don't seem worried, so we won't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    You don't seem worried, so we won't be.
    I'm not worried. It it mostly kills old people and those with underlying health problems. For the rest of us it's just like a flu. The main thing is not to pass it on to vulnerable friends and relatives. My mother is eighty and my brother is obese with serious heart problems so I won't be seeing them any time soon.

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    amazing and disheartening to read so many of these posts that are about the poster an how they'll be fine if they get it, not about the risk of spreading the disease unintentionally to someone like my friend that has leukemia, a relative that has a serious lung infection from work, my neighbor who is frail and elderly, or those like them. people criticize the government for not doing enough fast enough, then they completely disregard what the medical experts all them not to do, and go on spring break anyway, or pack the bars for St Patrick's Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceWeaklegs View Post
    amazing and disheartening to read so many of these posts that are about the poster an how they'll be fine if they get it, not about the risk of spreading the disease unintentionally...
    In the UK the place is fairly locked down. Virtually all large gatherings are canceled, even most smaller ones. People are taking this seriously. I'm staying in the house for a week and my family for two weeks. Maybe it's different in the US, I don't know.

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    Exactly. Not to mention how many people think it is either an engineered biological weapon or a hoax.
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    Lol, is that real?
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    Exactly. Not to mention how many people think it is either an engineered biological weapon or a hoax.
    You should read the comments on the Instagram posts that all of the Colorado ski resorts put out when they announced their closures. Insane.
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    before this thing hit, my inlaws were in FL (father-in-law officiating some softball tournament) and asked to visit us on their way back to MI. Well, the softball tournament got shut down, so what are the inlaws doing? Going to a casino for a few days, then going to visit an elderly relative in FL, and then coming to see us. They are among the people downplaying the virus. I don't want them here, but my wife won't say no to them. The best I can get her to do is tell them that if they're sick, they're not welcome. But I don't trust that they will acknowledge being sick, if they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    before this thing hit, my inlaws were in FL (father-in-law officiating some softball tournament) and asked to visit us on their way back to MI. Well, the softball tournament got shut down, so what are the inlaws doing? Going to a casino for a few days, then going to visit an elderly relative in FL, and then coming to see us. They are among the people downplaying the virus. I don't want them here, but my wife won't say no to them. The best I can get her to do is tell them that if they're sick, they're not welcome. But I don't trust that they will acknowledge being sick, if they are.
    That sucks man.

    What if you say "if they come here I am leaving here".
    Both the wife and parents need to get a clue. How the heck do they think it's right to visit a casino then visit people they love and care about?

    I hope you can do more than say you don't want them if they are sick. Going to be a tough one -I don't think there is a way to 'keep the peace' in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    before this thing hit, my inlaws were in FL (father-in-law officiating some softball tournament) and asked to visit us on their way back to MI. Well, the softball tournament got shut down, so what are the inlaws doing? Going to a casino for a few days, then going to visit an elderly relative in FL, and then coming to see us. They are among the people downplaying the virus. I don't want them here, but my wife won't say no to them. The best I can get her to do is tell them that if they're sick, they're not welcome. But I don't trust that they will acknowledge being sick, if they are.
    Wow. What a quandary. Wish I had some advice for ya, but I'm sure some will pop up, knowing the OC.

    Hopefully by the time they're to visit, they will have come to their senses. It's people like that who make it worse for (almost) everyone. Good luck.
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    People are flocking to Moab as well, a place where there are a grand total of 17 hospital beds within 100 miles. They have TWO ventilators, which are critical for a severe COVID-19 patient to survive. If you are the third person, I guess you just die. "Oh, they would fly you to Grand Junction". How many helicopters are there? GJ is the hospital central for an area the size of Massachusetts. They have only a couple of helicopters. If there is a bad car accident in Montrose, it would be hours before a chopper could get to Moab and get a patient to Grand Junction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    I'm not worried. It it mostly kills old people and those with underlying health problems. For the rest of us it's just like a flu. The main thing is not to pass it on to vulnerable friends and relatives. My mother is eighty and my brother is obese with serious heart problems so I won't be seeing them any time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    You should read the comments on the Instagram posts that all of the Colorado ski resorts put out when they announced their closures. Insane.
    I believe it. Not so much my own family, but my wife's family has hit up Facebook pretty good. I get it, they're not worried because they live in a rural area. This all must seem abstract. But those folks will DRIVE places to do basic things. Like drive 100 miles just because you wanted to go to this store in this town and not the similar store in the town 20 miles away. But a lot of people do that. And other people who visit those larger towns go to and come from St. Louis or Memphis regularly, because they have flown internationally or attended a large concert recently, full of people who traveled in, so it could easily get to a small town, because with how far people travel in a regular basis these days that means relatively little. Not to mention her dad and uncle both drive all around Southeast Missouri and Northeast Arkansas every day for work. I hope it never gets to them, because even if they laugh it off, at least her 80 year old grandma will be ok.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    before this thing hit, my inlaws were in FL (father-in-law officiating some softball tournament) and asked to visit us on their way back to MI. Well, the softball tournament got shut down, so what are the inlaws doing? Going to a casino for a few days, then going to visit an elderly relative in FL, and then coming to see us. They are among the people downplaying the virus. I don't want them here, but my wife won't say no to them. The best I can get her to do is tell them that if they're sick, they're not welcome. But I don't trust that they will acknowledge being sick, if they are.
    Harold, I think your best bet is to just go camping. You don't even have to say why. Just tell them you really got the itch and can't be stopped. Check in every now and again and come back about to weeks after your in-laws leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honkinunit View Post
    People are flocking to Moab as well, a place where there are a grand total of 17 hospital beds within 100 miles. They have TWO ventilators, which are critical for a severe COVID-19 patient to survive. If you are the third person, I guess you just die. "Oh, they would fly you to Grand Junction". How many helicopters are there? GJ is the hospital central for an area the size of Massachusetts. They have only a couple of helicopters. If there is a bad car accident in Montrose, it would be hours before a chopper could get to Moab and get a patient to Grand Junction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Looks like I've got Corona!

    Basically, it's a flu and I've had a lot worse. To be honest, by far the most aggravating aspect of this is the precautions that surround it. I need to stay home for seven days from onset of symptoms but what worse is that the rest of the family need to isolate for fourteen!

    This is a problem as my son has a big job interview next week. It's one of these group things so I doubt they'll be able to reschedule it. My wife thinks he'll just be out. I hope not :0(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    I don't want them here, but my wife won't say no to them. The best I can get her to do is tell them that if they're sick, they're not welcome. But I don't trust that they will acknowledge being sick, if they are.
    They don't need to be sick. The incubation period is quite long and they can be contagious that whole time.

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    Hang in there, Mr. P. Try to check in with the OC everyday if you can. We will be thinking' about you.
    Thank you but honestly, I'll be fine. If I die I'll let you know ;0)

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    Very worried for my daughter right now. She is in London and is symptomatic. Her husband owns a Muay Thai boxing gym, and has to close it down. She is a personal trainer and that biz is now gone too. They have no savings to speak of, and I can only send them so much because I have no work either now. Just got hit with a 400 buck bill this morning for a CT scan and that is another hit. Her and her husband have almost no food and the stores are empty all round them. It is extremely worrying. BJ is about as effective as a threadbare blanket holding a fart, so I doubt anything will come from him any time soon either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    before this thing hit, my inlaws were in FL (father-in-law officiating some softball tournament) and asked to visit us on their way back to MI. Well, the softball tournament got shut down, so what are the inlaws doing? Going to a casino for a few days, then going to visit an elderly relative in FL, and then coming to see us. They are among the people downplaying the virus. I don't want them here, but my wife won't say no to them. The best I can get her to do is tell them that if they're sick, they're not welcome. But I don't trust that they will acknowledge being sick, if they are.
    Harold, next time they call, start a lot of coughing and wheezing and comment how you're not feeling very well. Maybe that will dissuade them from visiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    Very worried for my daughter right now. She is in London and is symptomatic. Her husband owns a Muay Thai boxing gym, and has to close it down. She is a personal trainer and that biz is now gone too. They have no savings to speak of, and I can only send them so much because I have no work either now. Just got hit with a 400 buck bill this morning for a CT scan and that is another hit. Her and her husband have almost no food and the stores are empty all round them. It is extremely worrying. BJ is about as effective as a threadbare blanket holding a fart, so I doubt anything will come from him any time soon either...
    Sorry to hear this, rocker. Around here they've made it so you can't be evicted for back rent while you can't work. They're also not cutting power, gas, or any services. Hopefully they'll do something for them with temporary assistance or at least food, but you're right Boris is a scum bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    "France's health ministry says that only two in 10 people regularly wash their hands after using the bathroom."

    Ugh, not eating in France again, nor shaking hands. Cue Seinfeld pizza vid.
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    "France's health ministry says that only two in 10 people regularly wash their hands after using the bathroom."

    Ugh, not eating in France again, nor shaking hands. Cue Seinfeld pizza vid.
    .....Italy as well.....
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    I prefer to stay away from people in general. Only exception is the girl I am "running partners with benefits" with. I unfortunately have to go to work if I want to stay employed, we won't shut down until they are forced to (no, not an essential service).

    If we get ordered to shelter in place, I'll probably trail run locally, I am not too worried about being able to get out, and the police have better things to do then worry about a guy running solo on trails where no one else is.

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    I mean.. I'm not even sure what the point is.. everybody (and I do mean EVERYBODY) was packed into the grocery stores all weekend...

    and people continue to go interact with everyone at the grocery store... so why close all the bars?? I mean alcohol kills germs right?? (joke).


    I'm pretty healthy I'm not that afraid of this nonsense myself.... I'm honestly more afraid of the economic carnage that seems to be developing ... going to be nasty stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atarione View Post
    I mean.. I'm not even sure what the point is.. everybody (and I do mean EVERYBODY) was packed into the grocery stores all weekend...

    and people continue to go interact with everyone at the grocery store... so why close all the bars?? I mean alcohol kills germs right?? (joke).


    I'm pretty healthy I'm not that afraid of this nonsense myself.... I'm honestly more afraid of the economic carnage that seems to be developing ... going to be nasty stuff.
    I think once the panic dies down somewhat, which it will, the stores will level off and be less packed. In my local Frys it is almost always busy, but I would have little trouble keeping my distance from people even then. I wear latex gloves and an effective mask when I go out, I hand sanitize whenever I leave a place, and wash my hands asap. We have a cleaner spray that my wife got which kills pretty much everything but is non toxic to us and pets, so everything gets a spritz of that shit too afterwards. Shoes and outerwear come off in the garage and sprayed too. These arrangements are a bind, but necessary for us, and should be considered by all. I don't feel quite so bad now in the store People still s****** and point but verbal abuse seems to be tailing off, but fuk 'em all anyway.
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    My electric razor took a crap this morning, so I went in to Walmart to get another one. There was a girl in the hand soap isle and I asked if they were ever going to get more hand sanitizer in and she said: We got some in this morning, but it's all gone, except for one small bottle I found. It's yours if you want it. I passed, I've got a bottle in my truck and have soap at home. So yeah, I too think it'll eventually get back to somewhat normal.
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    DIY hand sanitizer: 2 parts isopropyl alcohol (70% or higher), 1 part aloe vera gel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    DIY hand sanitizer: 2 parts isopropyl alcohol (70% or higher), 1 part aloe vera gel.
    Didn't I try to get some DIY stuff going here somewhere?

    Good luck finding any isopropyl alcohol ATM, hopefully that'll be on it's way to stores soon.
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    annnd it is all pointless.. I become aware the local dive bar a mile~ from my house

    a. doesn't think they were ordered to close...so they haven't

    b. are expecting a huge turnout tonight for St. Patrick's ...


    I'm pretty sure they were told to close..but the wording is vague(??).. at least the headlines I saw ...suggested they are just asking here at least (LA has an Order, Ventura County does not).. still if 100~ morons or more go get wasted and breath ..etc all over each other all night... why sit around in our houses ???

    Personally I think this bar is making a mistake pushing their luck I know the Sheriff's dept thinks they are a pain the butt anyways already... wonder if they don't get there liquor lic pulled ??? meh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by atarione View Post
    annnd it is all pointless.. I become aware the local dive bar a mile~ from my house
    Is your point that since a bunch a selfish shitbirds aren't doing their part - the rest of shouldn't us either? You can rationalize away all of law enforcement with that sort of thinking.
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