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    Sex offenders, being aware of them in your area

    I'm glad I live in a great neighborhood. It's a working class neighborhood with a mix of income levels, professions, ages(retired to new families), ethnicity and even kids with two moms. We bought our house 13 years ago and we've been lucky to meet neighbors in every direction several houses away. Nobody is overly nosey or controlling and we routinely tell each other when we're going away for a weekend so the house can be watched.

    In the last several years the number of kids has grown. My daughter is one of the older ones at 12, but there's a few 4-8 year olds too. On the nicer days the neighborhood has them all running about playing.

    So yesterday I was getting ready to grill some burgers and a neighbor a few houses down stops and drops off a print-out of a registered sex offender new to the area. She's a lawyer and doesn't have any kids, but this guy is in the duplex behind her house so they share a lot line.

    He was convicted of possession of child pornography. To me that's one short of having sex with a child and both are things I don't have any forgiveness in me. Part of his restrictions are no alcohol and no using computers. Of course he has to stay away from kids.

    The red squares on the map are the ones that worry me the most. While I think it's a shame that an 18 year old who had sex with a 17 year old qualifies as a red square, I don't think there's as many of those as the other offenses.

    I could go on and on, but here's a couple of links if it helps anyone.


    The list of offenses in Wisconsin are here.

    Here's where you can locate them in your area, I think it works for other states too.
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    Wow! There are only 5 on the list in my area, but that just means a bunch of them haven't been caught. Sad. Thanks for posting.

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    Living in Reno, I'm really not surprised (209 mappable offenders, 47 non-mappable).

    I live in the campus dorms -- there's a Walgreens a few blocks down the street. For a few weeks earlier in the semester, whenever I went to Walgreens (always with other people), there was this creepy dude sitting in his motel window above the street. He just sat there, watching us walk by. I don't want to think about all the times we were walking along, unaware of him. He's no longer there, but still. Creepy.
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    Very frightening! We need to keep out kids safe.

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    Yeah, I hear you that there should probably be some differentiation between those convicted of crimes against children, and those with other sex offenses (which might warrant registration, but not on the same level as child porn/abuse).

    In my neighborhood, there are several listed, but fortunately, our state's website lists the crime with which they are charged. As the parent of 3 kids, I'm a lot less worried about living near someone charged with some things than others.
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    surprising how few of them there are for my parents' neighborhood, considering the other problems there. there's one "sexual misconduct with a minor" nearby.

    based on reading Indiana's law on that, it could be one of those less severe age issues....or it could essentially be rape. the website doesn't provide enough details on the type of felony the guy was convicted of.

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    Seriously what kind of ****ing ****ed up country is that? Not only the perversions of people and the sheer amount of them but that it somehow gets put online. I wonder how likely it is that you or your kids get raped by one of these red squares? Double foul here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by car bone View Post
    Seriously what kind of ****ing ****ed up country is that? Not only the perversions of people and the sheer amount of them but that it somehow gets put online. I wonder how likely it is that you or your kids get raped by one of these red squares? Double foul here.

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    Sex offenders have a very low recidivism rate IIRC, and statistically speaking sexual assaults on your children are much more likely to be committed by people that you know (friends, relatives) than random people in your neighbourhood.

    And it looks like you've noted this, but depending on where you are 'sex offenders' also includes people convicted for urinating in public while drunk, skinny dipping, etc.

    Basically what I'm saying is that while living near sex offenders sucks, registries are pretty useless if your goal is keeping your kids safe.

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    Awesome! Just about all the dots on the map near me a forcible rape or multiple rapes with children (some under 14). I don't recognize any of the people from the pictures, and no dots in my neighborhood, But i live in a small town so there are plenty within a few miles...

    Creepy stuff.

    I like the peoples pictures. If I saw the pictures alone I woulda been able to tell they are rapists.

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    Would having sex with a mountain bike be considered "offensible"?
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    I keep an eye on the local offenders with a local website.

    However,
    the sex offenders should be more concerned about where i am living
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    I keep an eye on the local offenders with a local website.

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    the sex offenders should be more concerned about where i am living
    Why? Are you going to run into one and kill them or cause bodily harm to them? Then spend time in jail or prison on assault charges leaving your family behind to deal with your consequences? I'm sure they are not concerned about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Sex offenders have a very low recidivism rate IIRC, and statistically speaking sexual assaults on your children are much more likely to be committed by people that you know (friends, relatives) than random people in your neighbourhood.

    And it looks like you've noted this, but depending on where you are 'sex offenders' also includes people convicted for urinating in public while drunk, skinny dipping, etc.

    Basically what I'm saying is that while living near sex offenders sucks, registries are pretty useless if your goal is keeping your kids safe.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Why? Are you going to run into one and kill them or cause bodily harm to them? Then spend time in jail or prison on assault charges leaving your family behind to deal with your consequences? I'm sure they are not concerned about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    Why? Are you going to run into one and kill them or cause bodily harm to them? Then spend time in jail or prison on assault charges leaving your family behind to deal with your consequences? I'm sure they are not concerned about you.

    Sorry, guess I need another beer...or one less.
    I have a wife and two young daughters. If one of those child molesting perverts even looked too long in their direction, I would be comiting some brewtality.

    And yes, you need another beer. Have one right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppy View Post
    ^ How old is the bike in question?
    Oh, she's all grown up. She wears size 29 shoes, ummm... I mean tires.... all dressed up in white. Very feminine, very elegant. But tough as they come. Soooo sexy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Sex offenders have a very low recidivism rate IIRC, and statistically speaking sexual assaults on your children are much more likely to be committed by people that you know (friends, relatives) than random people in your neighbourhood.

    And it looks like you've noted this, but depending on where you are 'sex offenders' also includes people convicted for urinating in public while drunk, skinny dipping, etc.

    Basically what I'm saying is that while living near sex offenders sucks, registries are pretty useless if your goal is keeping your kids safe.
    Not to mention that while people like brewtality are pulling tough on the guys that ARE outed, the psycho that hasn't been outed yet will be raping his kids.

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    Since im a law enforcement officer in Florida... I have a pretty good understanding of what can qualify someone as a sexual offender..

    While everyone knows the obvious offenses.. some dont know about the others...

    Urination in public can get you a sexual offender status if your sexual organ is exposed.

    In Florida, while a 16 or 17 year old can have sex with someone up to the age of 23 and still be legal... if a 16 year old has sex with a 15 year old.. its illegal, since a 15 year old cant legally consent..

    Prior to our "sexting laws"... emailing or picture texting a picture of yourself naked, if under 18, could have yielded yourself a charge of possessing and/or distributing child pornography...

    While there are many bad offenders and predators out there... some truly dont deserve the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Would having sex with a mountain bike be considered "offensible"?
    how about a homosexual relationship with your car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    how about a homosexual relationship with your car?
    Aren't cars, boats, etc usually referred to using feminine pronouns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail6 View Post
    Aren't cars, boats, etc usually referred to using feminine pronouns?
    usually

    Then again, Chevy Luminas are usually referred to as pieces of crap too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail6 View Post
    Aren't cars, boats, etc usually referred to using feminine pronouns?
    if you watch the "strange addictions" episode i posted, you'll see why i made the remark...

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    Lots of rapes of minors in my area. Thanks for making me look up my shitty city. It would just be better if they just cut those perps dicks off. Actually, now that I think about it, take a thermometer filled with mercury, slide it up their urethra, smash it with a hammer. Then cut off their eye lids off and feed them nothing but sleeping pills and finally just as they are about to pass out, cut their penis off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    yeah, the singletrack trails at the western end of golden gate park here in san francisco get a bit creepy sometimes...once, we rode past a guy nonchalantly standing beside the trail with his wang flopping free out for all to see...i guess it was his form of advertising...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    222 Offenders
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    Lots of rapes of minors in my area. Thanks for making me look up my shitty city. It would just be better if they just cut those perps dicks off. Actually, now that I think about it, take a thermometer filled with mercury, slide it up their urethra, smash it with a hammer. Then cut off their eye lids off and feed them nothing but sleeping pills and finally just as they are about to pass out, cut their penis off.
    Ever have (consentual) sex before you were 18? Depending on where you live you may both be guilty of statutory rape. Not saying that that is necessarily the case where you are, but might want to take circumstances into account before you go around smashing dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Ever have (consentual) sex before you were 18?
    Yes. Have I ever had sex with a minor after eighteen? Hell to the motherfvck no. That shlt is wrong. Why would you go be with someone who is underage? There is no positive outcome about it. On the other hand I was referring to grown ass men that use date rape drugs, forcible rape or statutory rape, and most of those perps around here are going after kids that are under the age of eleven. There is no fine line with child pornography, rape, assault, and sex offenders. If you think there is you have some problems. IMHO once a sex offender always a sex offender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Yes. Have I ever had sex with a minor after eighteen? Hell to the motherfvck no. That shlt is wrong. Why would you go be with someone who is underage? There is no positive outcome about it. On the other hand I was referring to grown ass men that use date rape drugs, forcible rape or statutory rape, and most of those perps around here are going after kids that are under the age of eleven. There is no fine line with child pornography, rape, assault, and sex offenders. If you think there is you have some problems. IMHO once a sex offender always a sex offender.
    How can you tell them apart? If you have sex with your 15 year old GF on your 16th birthday and get caught, the system will treat you in exactly the same way as a child molester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    How can you tell them apart?
    You should all ready know the different between the two. Let me ask you how you would feel if you caught your daughter/son having sex with their bf/gf both underage compared to walking in on them and, see some random person holding down your child while forcibly having sex with them as your child is screaming out bloody murder against their will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    You should all ready know the different between the two. Let me ask you how you would feel if you caught your daughter/son having sex with their bf/gf both underage compared to walking in on them and, see some random person holding down your child while forcibly having sex with them as your child is screaming out bloody murder against their will.
    You cannot be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    You cannot be serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    How would you feel StiHacka?
    Look up statutory rape. If you are under the age of consent then you cannot legally agree to have sex, and anyone having sex with you is committing statutory rape. i.e. If you are 17, she is 17, and the age of consent is 18, then you are both committing statutory rape. It doesn't matter if you both want to or not. Some places will prosecute you for this, and you will be a sex offender. A lot of places have laws which prevent you being convicted, but not everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    How would you feel StiHacka?
    Chill Hutch. I can assure you that I can tell the difference between a child rape and an underage consensual sex.

    What I and some others here try to suggest is that the government sometimes uses a way too broad brush to paint the picture, they throw a wide range of offenses into the same bag, put a "sexual offender" sticker on it and then advertise it without additional detail for public to see. Some of those "sexual offenses" are on the list only thanks to some weird pussification and hypocrisy of this society which people from outside of the US have difficulty to understand.

    I am not defending acts of sexual violence and child abuse, but you better check who you are about to impale before you go and sharp your pitchfork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
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    I have to second this.

    Just looking at that picture of her gives me impure thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Look up statutory rape. If you are under the age of consent then you cannot legally agree to have sex, and anyone having sex with you is committing statutory rape. i.e. If you are 17, she is 17, and the age of consent is 18, then you are both committing statutory rape. It doesn't matter if you both want to or not. Some places will prosecute you for this, and you will be a sex offender. A lot of places have laws which prevent you being convicted, but not everywhere.
    What I was getting at was your last sentence and what I'm trying to get across is the fact of people have sex with kids that should be punished. IE: Children who are below 18 and even younger who look at child porn and are the nastiest of the nasty. The same people go to prison get out and do the same thing over and over again. The justice system does a crap job of rehabilitation if any to correct these individuals. As for the guy/girl who are caught that are both underage having intercourse and both knowingly breaking the law and agreeing are stuck in a bad situation. Are they considered a sex offender yes. That's where the sex offender level comes into play. If my neighbor was convicted of having sex with a minor while being a minor and I look up the case and find out it was consensual I will look at them different compared to the individual who's 35 and has had forcible rape with five kids ages ranging from lets say 11-14. Like I said above the people who are convicted of statutory rape are in a crappy situation but for the people who are repeat offenders they need some intervention and should not be allowed back into public no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Chill Hutch. I can assure you that I can tell the difference between a child rape and an underage consensual sex.

    What I and some others here try to suggest is that the government sometimes uses a way too broad brush to paint the picture, they throw a wide range of offenses into the same bag, put a "sexual offender" sticker on it and then advertise it without additional detail for public to see. Some of those "sexual offenses" are on the list only thanks to some weird pussification and hypocrisy of this society which people from outside of the US have difficulty to understand.

    I am not defending acts of sexual violence and child abuse, but you better check who you are about to impale before you go and sharp your pitchfork.
    This I agree with 100%. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else. Sex offenders get me in a pissy mood due to the fact of being a former police officer in the military I have seen some pretty messed up things relating to this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    This I agree with 100%. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else. Sex offenders get me in a pissy mood due to the fact of being a former police officer in the military I have seen some pretty messed up things relating to this topic.
    You have offended me in a topic about sex, you are therefore a sex offender, too!

    Yes, these things should make every normal person's blood boil. The laws do the real scum molesters a great service by grouping them together with much less dangerous individuals because they are essentially giving them the benefit of doubt.

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    Who's the butt hurt member who neg rep'd me? If you want me to relax be a real member and sign it. I'm not going to neg rep you back I have better things to do but, don't be a tool and not sign it.
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    Real world story. A coworker of mine were at his buddys house watching the game. The buddys 15 year old stepdaughter comes in, they get along really well and she sits down next to her stepfather and cuddles up against him, you know the drill, he puts his arm on top of the couch, she slides in, puts her head on his shoulder/chest and he puts his arm around her. I've done that a million times with my niece, it's her favorite tv watching position when I'm around. Well this time it goes slightly wrong, when he slides down his arm from the top of the couch to put it around her, he isn't really looking what he's doing and his hand accidentally touches her breast. She's startled, he quickly realizes his mistake and move the hand away, apologizing. She accepts the apology and that's that. Honest mistake, nothing to it. They tell the girls mother about it later just to have everything in the clear.

    Some time later the girl is at her boyfriend and for some reason she mentions the episode. The boyfriends mother hears it and goes bananas. Turns out she was molested as a child so all her alarm bells goes of. The girl explains that it really was a mistake and that her stepdad is a cool guy and all, but that doesn't help, the woman just goes on about how she doesn't have to lie to protect her sleasy stepdad and ends up calling the cops.

    The cops pick up the stepdad and the girl are devastated about what she has started. Everyone but the boyfriends mother is protesting it, but to no avail. Finally my coworker is called for questioning and explains what happened and the whole situation is defused. Without him, the stepdad might just have ended up with a child molester conviction.

    Another true story. I worked at an after school club for 12-15 year old kids. One of those places the kids go to play soccer, shoot pool, play boardgames and so on after school until the parents gets home. Awesome job. Some of the kids were a bit nasty, doing name calling and stuff like that, teens can be like that from time to time. One of the girls had a mean streak. She would be all kind and nice and suddenly tell you how much you sucked. Ten minutes later she would be all sugar again.

    Anyhow, most of the kids got fed up with her so she ended up spending quite a bit of time with us adults. One afternoon she asked me if I wanted to play ping-pong and we went into the basement where the table were. I had a reputation for sucking at ping-pong, I almost always lost, but for some reason this afternoon I hit everything right. At some point I hit the ball right on the edge of the table and she dove for it into a split which looked kinda painful. She stayed on the floor, face down and I went over to see if she was alright. She didn't respond, so I put my hand on her shoulder and she turned around with a big smile and told me to get away and that I was stupid and smelled. I said "whatever, I don't care to listen to that, enjoy playing ping-pong with yourself" and then I went back upstairs.

    Then I got to thinking, it was just me and her down there and luckily she just did her normal ******** routine insulting me. But had she been really mean she might as well have claimed that I felt her up or something and then I would have been royally screwed unless she come clean and tell the truth. It scared me, because there is no way I would have been able to defend against that..

    Which brings me to the third situation when people get divorced and the wife tells some crap story about the dad molesting the kids to hurt the ex husband and get a better shot at keeping the kids. Sometimes the wife ends up confessing the lie, other times the husband is falsely labeled as a molester.

    Now don't get me wrong, I hate child molesters just as much as the next guy and some of those labeled as molesters are indeed nasty creatures. However there are a lot of ways to be innocently accused too and it's really, really hard to defend against as it almost always comes down to one persons word against anothers and the system favors the molested part. In short, get the full story before you go on a rampage against your neighborhood red dots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Look up statutory rape. If you are under the age of consent then you cannot legally agree to have sex, and anyone having sex with you is committing statutory rape. i.e. If you are 17, she is 17, and the age of consent is 18, then you are both committing statutory rape. It doesn't matter if you both want to or not. Some places will prosecute you for this, and you will be a sex offender. A lot of places have laws which prevent you being convicted, but not everywhere.
    Happened to my Stepson, a year in juvey, 3 years in the state pen.
    He was 17, had sex with a girl twice, and when he discovered that
    she was 16, he broke it off, which pissed her off so she told her
    Mom they had sex, in a nutshell, now my kid is a "Sex Offender".
    He is now 28, so hope is we can petition for it to be removed soon.
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    wow wtf 12 years?? BTW when you are let out of prison or whatever haven't you done your time then? You paid back what you owed to the society? Start at 0? No? Then why are people in prison in the first place it they dont pay back whaty they owe to society when they are in there?

    On a sidenote I think Sandrenseren is right, the legislation is ****ed, we all know it. yes raping kids and teens is not ok, all our moral compasses are functioning, suprise surprise. but if you have a couple thats 16 and 15 or whatever no crime cas been commited, we all know that. But the legsilation says illegal = perv. However thats not the case. I had my first real girlfriend when I was 15.

    In the europe I believe the legal age is 15 but probably not if you are over 18 or I don't know really, generally if a guy thats 18 has a girlfriend thats 15 its regarded as well quite strange, you will definitely be singled out as a weirdo. So the problem seems to be self adjusting. But consent = 15.

    Weidest thing about all this is a couple thats 15 can have sex and then both legally be child rapists and then take pictures of themselves and send them to friends and also keep the photos. Wow thats like a life sentance there isn't it, 3 strikes right.

    In europe they had something called separation of church and state like hmm 300 years ago (UK probably excluded), just after they stopped burning witches (ballpark figure), maybe the US should try this out?? Separate all these ****ing religious whackos from everything that is related to how the country is governered and its legislation, might be a winning combo there, but what do I know? Seems to have worked in europe though, and maybe even the UK.

    I could be on to something.

    But on a serious note. There is something not right in the legislation, and if nobody objects then the politicians thinks its all good, when its not. They get the wrong feedback to work with. And in the end everybody suffers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loudviking View Post
    Happened to my Stepson, a year in juvey, 3 years in the state pen.
    He was 17, had sex with a girl twice, and when he discovered that
    she was 16, he broke it off, which pissed her off so she told her
    Mom they had sex, in a nutshell, now my kid is a "Sex Offender".
    He is now 28, so hope is we can petition for it to be removed soon.
    That's the sort of bull**** I'm talking about right there. Hope you get it worked out.

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    There are more than a few within a mile of my house; there are a few more driving around, occasionally making themselves known by trying something.

    The only one of the kids that goes to the bus stop alone is the 17-y-o nephew -- 6', 180+, and his mind is, shall we say, unique. Intelligent, fun, generally happy -- but if you push him too far, he Just. Won't. Stop.

    I walk the other two to the bus stop every morning, and stay there until they get on the bus.

    Something happens to any of them, I will turn the streets red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by car bone View Post
    Weidest thing about all this is a couple thats 15 can have sex and then both legally be child rapists and then take pictures of themselves and send them to friends and also keep the photos. Wow thats like a life sentance there isn't it, 3 strikes right.
    In my country the legal age is 15. So a teenage couple both age 15 can have sex perfectly legal, but if she takes a picture of her boob and mail or text it to her boyfriend she risks getting a sentence for distributing child pornography despite that it was herself taking a picture of her own body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loudviking View Post
    Happened to my Stepson, a year in juvey, 3 years in the state pen.
    He was 17, had sex with a girl twice, and when he discovered that
    she was 16, he broke it off, which pissed her off so she told her
    Mom they had sex, in a nutshell, now my kid is a "Sex Offender".
    He is now 28, so hope is we can petition for it to be removed soon.
    Hopefully that petition works out for your step-son and your family.
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    interesting article i discovered while searching for something else...

    "The hidden side of your soul": How the FBI uses the Web as a child porn honeypot

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