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    What if cops stopped you after observing you for some time without you realizing, even though you perceived yourself as doing what any exemplary model citizen would be doing, only to...


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    Receive a ticket that praised you for your good behavior? It would go on your record and all...

    Too much negative energy causes negative feelings like stress, depression, anxiety, frustration, jealousy, anger, etc. What if it such negative things were balanced out with more wholesome positive energy? Would you then be more willing to be more personal with negative things, rather than outright avoid/despise/escape from them? I think it's negative to see people just turn a blind eye or even laugh at sources of negative energy (and how they get away with it, esp. with you doing nothing about it)...

    I presume people have a lot of negative energy surrounding stupidity from work, significant others, etc. that needs positive energy to be recharged, perhaps by pouring out aggression on the trails/forums or simply being surrounded by nature, but what about things that aren't so common, like current events? Surely, you can't be balancing the negative energy of something like pollution by riding or merely talking about it or how others make it worse...

    Anyone got any positive energy stories that can be bragged about, perhaps for requiring discipline, goodwill, and/or integrity, or maybe because it was clever? Doesn't have to be about yourself. Or any ideas that are simple and clever that could change the negative things in the world as we know it?

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    I don't usually have much negative energy, but I'm trying to be more positive lately anyway.
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    I guess this is a testament to my own perspective of negativity. I never thought you were supposed to get positive reinforcement for doing the right thing. Being a good person is just your duty, and most people you're good to and help out will probably never appreciate it.

    Yup, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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    The military is a "meritocracy", in which going above and beyond is rewarded, and those that show desirable traits of competence are promoted.

    In contrast, in a salaried workplace, someone can work their ass off and feel like they never get rewarded, despite possibly some recognition, and basically get their "spirit crushed", and turn into someone that just doesn't care and zombies through, thinking they're contributing at least as much as the least competent employee.

    Surely there could be some sort of middle ground that can take the best of both worlds, to improve things in general. Just suggesting "what-ifs", to get people to be less zombie-like and selfishly carefree (more lively and involved in community).

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    I wish my insurance company would reward me for my excellent health. Instead, I get lumped in with the lazy crowd with various maladies that could be lessened or eliminated with a healthy lifestyle.

    Some plans do so, but not ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankout View Post
    I wish my insurance company would reward me for my excellent health. Instead, I get lumped in with the lazy crowd with various maladies that could be lessened or eliminated with a healthy lifestyle.

    Some plans do so, but not ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankout View Post
    I wish my insurance company would reward me for my excellent health. Instead, I get lumped in with the lazy crowd with various maladies that could be lessened or eliminated with a healthy lifestyle.

    Some plans do so, but not ours.
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    I never thought you were supposed to get positive reinforcement for doing the right thing.

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    I was just thinking about the insurance thing yesterday as I was filling out forms for life insurance. All the questions were about what might be wrong with me, and none of them were about positive and good things that I do for myself. Same with my health insurance. That to me is just wrong. Yes, my parents died young, but they lived a poor lifestyle, not really knowing any better. My choices are different, and I stand a much better chance of greatly outliving their ages.
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    One observation in life is that happy positive people are attractive and negative people are not. Happy positive people attract good things into their lives and most negative people lead miserable lives. Positive people are healthier while negative people usually have a more unhealthy lifestyle. And on and on and on. Takeaway, there is a very clear dynamic between the energy you give out into the world and what you get in return beyond the obvious if I do A it will net B results.

    Look at ice crytal formation in the presence of chanting monks vs a control, or plants grown in Beethoven vs death metal ( I like death metal), or even some evidence of people's healing rate while people pray for them vs a control. Energy is force we have not yet fully comprehended. If you're in an environment stunting your growth leave.

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    What if wide public surveillance was a thing, and that it was used to reward the good, as well as be evidence to convict the bad. Of course, it's not total surveillance, but something that covers common shared areas, and other places of interest where people tend to be present.

    What if it balanced stuff out, like people who left their pet poop or spit chewing gum on the ground for others to step in, get fined in order to reward those that do especially good like cleaning that stuff up.

    What if people who clocked in late for work and breaks got pay partially deducted, and that money went to people who were punctual with perfect attendance?

    Start small with negative things that annoy people, and balance it out with rewards that promote positive energy. I was thinking something like a reward bin at work, with a few select notable rewards, where if someone decided they earned something for their efforts recently, they'd choose something from it accordingly, and maybe someone would review them (based on surveillance) and tell the story of how they saw it, interviewing others to get their view.

    Ever hear people praise certain communities for having a lot of positivity, in the people and the management and policies? It's probably obvious that these guys are the opposite of @$$holes, but what exactly are the positive things that they doing?

    Regarding health care, it's not surprising to hear that healthy people are not happy about basically subsidizing the plans for the sedentary types that probably are indulging in luxurious food, comfort, entertainment, etc. and even worse if they are smokers, drinkers, and recreational drug-users, who are complaining about everything being too expensive and that they don't see what's so great about exercise. Such socialism does not work when the community is overly negative, where much of that negativity is borne from stupidity, sin, and knowingly making poor life choices (possibly expecting that there would be help). Why support/promote that, over supporting/promoting virtues? It's hampering the future, which these types have already left to the hands of others. I wonder if whatever positive contributions they made actually at least balances out the negativity of the burden they have become.

    Is basic positive feedback a human need? It seems so... there's something called the feedback loop. If someone's not told they're doing bad, they may likely keep on doing it that. If someone's not told they're doing good, which may have took more effort, skill, or focus, they may not feel incentive to do this much, other than for some personal satisfaction, and reduce their efforts to what they may consider acceptable (not low enough to trigger bad feedback).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    I was just thinking about the insurance thing yesterday as I was filling out forms for life insurance. All the questions were about what might be wrong with me, and none of them were about positive and good things that I do for myself. Same with my health insurance. That to me is just wrong. Yes, my parents died young, but they lived a poor lifestyle, not really knowing any better. My choices are different, and I stand a much better chance of greatly outliving their ages.
    If we did not invest our lives with positivity, we would all be popping our clogs too soon...
    That's because US healthcare is about fixing you when you are broken rather than preventing you from getting broken. More money in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    That's because US healthcare is about fixing you when you are broken rather than preventing you from getting broken. More money in that.
    Ugh, I wish that weren't true. I'm glad you brought it up though. All I can do is sigh when I think further about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    That is pretty funny. Got to love people. But where is law enforcement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    That's because US healthcare is about fixing you when you are broken rather than preventing you from getting broken. More money in that.
    Actually, most of the money in healthcare is spent on those that are within 1-2 years of life. In reality, the money spent is not going to change the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    That's because US healthcare is about fixing you when you are broken rather than preventing you from getting broken. More money in that.
    Untrue. My insurance sends me a rebate if I regularly exercise and maintain certain health markers (BP, blood lipids, BMI, et al). I just received my March $50 gift card in the mail last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave54 View Post
    Untrue. My insurance sends me a rebate if I regularly exercise and maintain certain health markers (BP, blood lipids, BMI, et al). I just received my March $50 gift card in the mail last week.
    My insurance doesn't do that, but my employer that I have my insurance thru does. And since my wife is on there they do it for both of us...$1400 added to our HSA this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave54 View Post
    Untrue. My insurance sends me a rebate if I regularly exercise and maintain certain health markers (BP, blood lipids, BMI, et al). I just received my March $50 gift card in the mail last week.
    Your insurance plan is in the minority. If it was like that for a sizable part of the population then we would be getting somewhere but unfortunately it is not.

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    A lot of people don't say "please" or "thank you". You can run your own experiment, try holding the door for someone at work/mall/etc and count how many people say "thank you".

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    Quote Originally Posted by matadorCE View Post
    A lot of people don't say "please" or "thank you". You can run your own experiment, try holding the door for someone at work/mall/etc and count how many people say "thank you".
    The results will vary depending on what part of the country you live in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matadorCE View Post
    A lot of people don't say "please" or "thank you". You can run your own experiment, try holding the door for someone at work/mall/etc and count how many people say "thank you".
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    The results will vary depending on what part of the country you live in.
    I would agree with you, but I've spent enough time in small-town Missouri to know that people are rude everywhere. It's one of those places where they go on about how great they are by virtue of accidentally being born there and then start every conversation with strangers by asking who their parents are and where they're from.

    So, what the hell part of the midwest are people talking about when they say people in the midwest aren't jerks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    What if wide public surveillance was a thing, and that it was used to reward the good, as well as be evidence to convict the bad. Of course, it's not total surveillance, but something that covers common shared areas, and other places of interest where people tend to be present.

    What if it balanced stuff out, like people who left their pet poop or spit chewing gum on the ground for others to step in, get fined in order to reward those that do especially good like cleaning that stuff up.

    What if people who clocked in late for work and breaks got pay partially deducted, and that money went to people who were punctual with perfect attendance?

    Start small with negative things that annoy people, and balance it out with rewards that promote positive energy. I was thinking something like a reward bin at work, with a few select notable rewards, where if someone decided they earned something for their efforts recently, they'd choose something from it accordingly, and maybe someone would review them (based on surveillance) and tell the story of how they saw it, interviewing others to get their view.

    Ever hear people praise certain communities for having a lot of positivity, in the people and the management and policies? It's probably obvious that these guys are the opposite of @$$holes, but what exactly are the positive things that they doing?

    Regarding health care, it's not surprising to hear that healthy people are not happy about basically subsidizing the plans for the sedentary types that probably are indulging in luxurious food, comfort, entertainment, etc. and even worse if they are smokers, drinkers, and recreational drug-users, who are complaining about everything being too expensive and that they don't see what's so great about exercise. Such socialism does not work when the community is overly negative, where much of that negativity is borne from stupidity, sin, and knowingly making poor life choices (possibly expecting that there would be help). Why support/promote that, over supporting/promoting virtues? It's hampering the future, which these types have already left to the hands of others. I wonder if whatever positive contributions they made actually at least balances out the negativity of the burden they have become.

    Is basic positive feedback a human need? It seems so... there's something called the feedback loop. If someone's not told they're doing bad, they may likely keep on doing it that. If someone's not told they're doing good, which may have took more effort, skill, or focus, they may not feel incentive to do this much, other than for some personal satisfaction, and reduce their efforts to what they may consider acceptable (not low enough to trigger bad feedback).
    Control you own behavior. Not to force the hand of others. This post has way too much negative energy, Dude. And you can't fix stupid. Really I've tried. Healthy people can't have luxurious food, comfort and be entertained? Let alone responsible drinking. You're harshing my mellow. Duuuude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodino View Post
    Your insurance plan is in the minority. If it was like that for a sizable part of the population then we would be getting somewhere but unfortunately it is not.
    Mine does it too, $900 annual discount if I maintain weight and meet health goals. I assume it is because my employer and / or insurance company thinks it will save them money, which is fine.

    Regardless, I really don't think we should be looking to insurance companies or the government to determine if we make healthy choices or not. That's personal choice. Not to mention the medical establishment is still struggling to figure out what is actually healthy - and how to communicate that to us without losing donations from the food industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    What if wide public surveillance was a thing, and that it was used to reward the good, as well as be evidence to convict the bad.
    Literally happening in Chechnya as we think about this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matadorCE View Post
    A lot of people don't say "please" or "thank you". You can run your own experiment, try holding the door for someone at work/mall/etc and count how many people say "thank you".
    Don't know where I read it, but I thought it was cool: someone said they were trying to change all of their "I'm sorry's" to "thank you". For example: instead of saying sorry I'm late they would say thank you for waiting for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    Control you own behavior. Not to force the hand of others. This post has way too much negative energy, Dude. And you can't fix stupid. Really I've tried. Healthy people can't have luxurious food, comfort and be entertained? Let alone responsible drinking. You're harshing my mellow. Duuuude.
    I feel there's a need to implement a system that addresses the problem at its source, rather than try to remedy the side effects (masses eventually being self-centered). Kind of like fixing stupid before it has a chance to set, rather than try to fix it after the fact.

    I believe truly healthy people would be in bed on time to get plenty of sleep daily (ex. at 9-10 PM, for 7-8 hours), not sucking down excess salt, fat, and other unwholesome ingredients/additives nor staying up late regularly (indulging in excessive entertainment). Do you clearly understand the definition of indulge?

    Sounds like you're trying to project your own subjective definition of positive and negative, and have already become seriously self-centered. You seem to have stretched your own definition of "positive" to include you, and happen to include a lot of others, which you now classify as tolerable. Your standards have seemingly dropped.

    Being negative isn't bad by itself. It's to be expected, and should see at least enough positive to counter-balance it. For instance, if one shows gluttony, sloth, pride, and wrath, how would they go about balancing that? By hoping no one calls them out on it, as if people should mind their own business? What about the various virtues for a start?

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    I can't believe anyone is suggesting broader surveillance to reward good as well as bad. That is all well and good in theory, but think about who is measuring "good" and "bad"... what's good for the goose...

    I guess I am in the wrong state for health insurance. The marketplace has but 2 options of the same group, and the individual market here, at least for me, has just one option. The marketplace has extremely limited adherents to the plan, and they are bursting at the seams, so if I want a better choice of providers, I have to go to the open market. Not very open. That plan has no copays until the deductible is met, so it's in my interest to get just sick enough to use the deductible so I can claim copays once that is met. Is that dumb or what?!? Better not get sick at all!
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    Change plans.
    It's actually a very good plan; I was just venting I guess. This is how insurance work.
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    I don't know...just do good things for people and the community, no matter how small these acts may be. Be good to people. Sure, none of us can do that all the time, but the effort can be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    I feel there's a need to implement a system that addresses the problem at its source, rather than try to remedy the side effects (masses eventually being self-centered). Kind of like fixing stupid before it has a chance to set, rather than try to fix it after the fact.

    I believe truly healthy people would be in bed on time to get plenty of sleep daily (ex. at 9-10 PM, for 7-8 hours), not sucking down excess salt, fat, and other unwholesome ingredients/additives nor staying up late regularly (indulging in excessive entertainment). Do you clearly understand the definition of indulge?

    Sounds like you're trying to project your own subjective definition of positive and negative, and have already become seriously self-centered. You seem to have stretched your own definition of "positive" to include you, and happen to include a lot of others, which you now classify as tolerable. Your standards have seemingly dropped.

    Being negative isn't bad by itself. It's to be expected, and should see at least enough positive to counter-balance it. For instance, if one shows gluttony, sloth, pride, and wrath, how would they go about balancing that? By hoping no one calls them out on it, as if people should mind their own business? What about the various virtues for a start?
    Yikes. You are trying to control others? Good luck with that. Be the change you wish to see in the world, start within first. You know nothing of my standards, duuude. Your ideals stink, go to North Korea. There you shall find nirvana. Do you even shred, Bro? Moderate drinking, like a beer or a glass of red wine HAS proven to be healthy. Diet, just blow up all the fast food joints. excellent. You should start a cult, I'm sure that will go over well. Sleep is overrated. Homemade bacon, that's where it's at. No soda, way less processed food/flour. Lean protein, whole grains, veggies, my own compost pile, own herbs and garden. Plus 2,000 or so bike commuter miles each year since 2004. And I just got rid of my '99 corolla with 172,000 miles on it. Stuff like that. Maybe you should start a bible forum.

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    I'm merely thinking of pseudo-karma, not control. There's very interesting stories written about such an utopian future. A pattern among them is that rotten people lead to a rotten world, and how they're handled is a topic of interest. Haven't found one that has some sort of reward system though; instead, they have a pattern that no bystander should get personally involved, and let authorities handle things.

    Do you have children? Even if you don't, do you think it's better if kids were left to act totally free inside their home, acting similarly to how they would if they were outside in a public area? Is it not okay for parents/guardians to monitor and check their behavior? Once they're outside of supervision, the responsibility shifts to who? These children grow up learning that they face no consequences for behaving in an uncivilized manner when not monitored, and this delinquent* behavior sticks (* or whatever word describes someone who breaks many minor rules). There's no real system for reforming non-violent offenders in the US; they're sent to jails with the violent criminals. Rewarding a child playing outside with a treat to reinforce good behavior counts as control?

    NK's mass surveillance is more like a network of snitching, similar to the Stasi legacy. That's not the source of their current conditions, which is mostly due to economic sanctions from countries like the US. Despite their economic situation, it's not filthy and disorderly like a typical American ghetto (nor like an economic booming Indian city). They aren't raised to hate and lead a life of extremism (well, except maybe hate the Japanese, with unbelievable propaganda against the US). Surveillance on a small scale has proven to be invaluable. It keeps the honest, honest, and it offers clues to bring justice to the baddies. Large scale surveillance exists, but not internally. Do you want the US to stop watching Iran, Russia, NK, Syria, and other places? International spy networks have been implemented ever since ancient times. It's up to cities to add surveillance; in high crime areas, it has shown to also bring results.

    What healthy benefit does drinking alcohol have? Wine is made from grapes and grapes have antioxidants, AKA vitamins, among other chemicals, but it loses a large portion of it's potency through the extraction/refinement process. It's a myth that taking vitamins supplements improves overall health. Best to get your nutrients from whole foods.

    Do you really believe it's only fast food restaurants that have the problem?

    Sleep is vital for recovery, after stressing your muscles and mind. I'm sure if you take it easy, you can go without much sleep, since you won't really need the rest. For those that put in physical and mental work that tests their limits, it's most definitely not overrated.

    Health and fitness can't really be measured by such factors. Two people with comparable stats in those factors may be eons apart in practical health and fitness. Fitness combines strength, endurance, mobility, and mind-body coordination. Health is a tougher one to simplify, but I'd say it's generally about lacking complications that inhibits the body from adapting to, or recovering from, varied circumstances, relative to what's considered normal. Are you rewarding such stats with indulgence (I'm at 1350 miles this year, with under 15 miles driven in the last 12 months)? What's your home-made bacon like to make?

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    Lost me at pseudo karma. Duuuuude. Do sleep with all those voices in your head? And think about less verbal spewage for your posts. Let me know when your cults gets started. I'll be in charge of bacon n beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    Lost me at pseudo karma. Duuuuude. Do sleep with all those voices in your head? And think about less verbal spewage for your posts. Let me know when your cults gets started. I'll be in charge of bacon n beer.
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    What's the word to describe a person who does the following:

    - Speaks to someone, then ignores 99% of what they said in response
    - Suggests that the person has a serious mental/health condition
    - Then tells that person what they think their immediate problem is
    - Assumes their own imagination is actually reality
    - Demands the person to keep them in mind and to stay in touch, as they're confident that their expertise in bacon and beer makes them the one to contact for such subject matters over other possible experts

    I know all the common adjectives fit, like c*unt and d-bag, but figure there has to be a better, more positive description. Someone who is trying their best, despite their failures? Nm, that assumes too much, like them actually trying their best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    What's the word to describe a person who does the following:

    - Speaks to someone, then ignores 99% of what they said in response
    - Suggests that the person has serious mental/health condition
    - Then tells that person what they think their immediate problem is
    - Assumes their imagination is actually reality
    - Demands the person to keep them in mind and to stay in touch, as they're confident that their expertise in bacon and beer makes them the one to contact for such subject matters over other possible experts
    Well, your posts tend to drift about, and can be hard to follow. And I'm not meaning to offend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankout View Post
    Well, your posts tend to drift about, and can be hard to follow. And I'm not meaning to offend.
    Isn't that what paragraphs are for? To separate individual topics and support them with context?

    Is the problem in the first "paragraph" in that post?

    You can blame my English teachers for making me write so many essays that it has become habit for me, except everything is a rough draft here and people get mad at me for editing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    Isn't that what paragraphs are for? To separate individual topics and support them with context?

    Is the problem in the first "paragraph" in that post?

    You can blame my English teachers for making me write so many essays that it has become habit for me, except everything is a rough draft here and people get mad at me for editing.
    Wait we all are in your English class? Sweet !

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post

    You can blame my English teachers for making me write so many essays that it has become habit for me, except everything is a rough draft here and people get mad at me for editing.
    Zooey, I would take this up with your English teachers if I were you, they presumably never let you edit anything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    What's the word to describe a person who does the following:

    - Speaks to someone, then ignores 99% of what they said in response
    - Suggests that the person has a serious mental/health condition
    - Then tells that person what they think their immediate problem is
    - Assumes their own imagination is actually reality
    - Demands the person to keep them in mind and to stay in touch, as they're confident that their expertise in bacon and beer makes them the one to contact for such subject matters over other possible experts

    I know all the common adjectives fit, like c*unt and d-bag, but figure there has to be a better, more positive description. Someone who is trying their best, despite their failures? Nm, that assumes too much, like them actually trying their best.
    Wow, so much negative energy, snif, snif. Bummers dude. Speaking? I though we in the off camber section interwebz jousting? Seriously, mt biking calms the voices in my head, the ones everyone has. Centered, peaceful, mindful, one with nature, listening to birds and winds in the forest. And " I am reality" name that quote. Really. I homebrew, do sensory analysis tastings, have a beer cellar, beer fridge and have been drinking beer since 6th( don't judge me) grade. Thats like 1975. Duuuude. Yourself? And written a few articles. Done like 10 batches of homemade bacon. 1 week cure in the fridge with salt and brown sugar, 3 or so hours with indirect apple wood smoke. Internal temp of 155-160 F. Its that good. And call me when the cult starts, seriously. How about this. Grow some thicker skin here? And with your post of " positive" energy. Follow your own advice? Follow your own sig line? Hmmm. I leave with this. Be the wheel. For it connects you to the earth and sky. It fills the space above and below. Connect the earth, water, wind and the fire within. Mountain biking does all. Fuel the fire. Loft the wheel, reach for air, float for a time, spin for the climbs. Peace out. Duuuude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    What's the word to describe a person who does the following:

    - Speaks to someone, then ignores 99% of what they said in response
    - Suggests that the person has a serious mental/health condition
    - Then tells that person what they think their immediate problem is
    - Assumes their own imagination is actually reality
    - Demands the person to keep them in mind and to stay in touch, as they're confident that their expertise in bacon and beer makes them the one to contact for such subject matters over other possible experts

    I know all the common adjectives fit, like c*unt and d-bag, but figure there has to be a better, more positive description. Someone who is trying their best, despite their failures? Nm, that assumes too much, like them actually trying their best.



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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    Wow, so much negative energy, snif, snif. Bummers dude. Speaking? I though we in the off camber section interwebz jousting? Seriously, mt biking calms the voices in my head, the ones everyone has. Centered, peaceful, mindful, one with nature, listening to birds and winds in the forest. And " I am reality" name that quote. Really. I homebrew, do sensory analysis tastings, have a beer cellar, beer fridge and have been drinking beer since 6th( don't judge me) grade. Thats like 1975. Duuuude. Yourself? And written a few articles. Done like 10 batches of homemade bacon. 1 week cure in the fridge with salt and brown sugar, 3 or so hours with indirect apple wood smoke. Internal temp of 155-160 F. Its that good. And call me when the cult starts, seriously. How about this. Grow some thicker skin here? And with your post of " positive" energy. Follow your own advice? Follow your own sig line? Hmmm. I leave with this. Be the wheel. For it connects you to the earth and sky. It fills the space above and below. Connect the earth, water, wind and the fire within. Mountain biking does all. Fuel the fire. Loft the wheel, reach for air, float for a time, spin for the climbs. Peace out. Duuuude.
    I'm guessing you want a Like or rep point for that? Do you hang out on social media posting this kind of stuff or something, hungry for the responses? That's not the kind of positive reinforcement I was thinking of. People can post degenerate stuff up and get a ton of "positive" reinforcement, only showing how sick this society is and how many sociopaths run amok in it.

    In the information age, smoking meats and homebrewing is trivialized. Just a matter of not being lazy in making investments in the supplies and equipment. I don't acknowledge that kind of stuff, but you have reminded me of the last time I had smoked pork. I prefer a bit more zing in the seasoning. Would paprika and chili powder be good along with the brown sugar and salt?

    The imagination thing was all in that last post I quoted. The points are all order too. Hint: the part about starting a cult.

    The thread's about recognizing all the negativity in this world, as opposed to turning a blind eye, and being inspired to finding a way to counteract it with something positve, rather than avoiding it. If everyone was trying to make others change, or minding their own business, rather than them doing the changing, it just results in dysfunctional society. No one wants to admit society is like this, and change themselves accordingly to be part of the fix; instead, they would rather continue glorifying all the things that make this society questionable, like glorifying pride (sexually, religiously, racially, morally) and the courage to be disorderly (ex. aggressive protesting), and giving attention to psychologically unstable people (ex. wanting to be treated differently because of gender/identity issues, or some mental disorder, or otherwise feeling that equality doesn't work in their favor).

    I've adapted myself to read your 3rd grade post formatting, reading the entire thing. What's your excuse for not adapting? Can you not comprehend anything, only capable of coming up with delusion because you're too lazy tgaf if it doesn't involve escaping into a world of beer, bacon, and whatever else mellows you?

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    BACON CULT, BACON CULT, who's in? One only needs to show up on a mt bike and pedal. True inner porkiness will be revealed. Exceptions will be made for beef jerky, terriaky will be looked on favorably. No negative energy, chi, dismissive thoughts will be allowed. All wheel sizes and pedal choices welcome. Even British 26 x1-3/8ths, really. Those that do not acknowledge the bacon power will not be allowed in. Bacon cult is not a disorder, and the Baconese ( the members) will be accepting of all others, beefy bobs, the cruciferous cruds, even the vegomatics. However the tofu terrifics will be subject to pocket checks. To make sure they are not packing( golden fried tofu, it's like crack I tell you) Don't be afraid of reason, The Baconese love all. Educate yourself about pork belly. Braised, roasted, smoked, fried, steamed and flash wok fried, yumminess follows. Don't be afraid of criticism of the turkey trotters, they will see the beauty of our ways. Give them some time, offer them some citrus glazed dried bacon, works every time. Who's in?

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    We need a positive bacon cult to counterbalance all the negative non-bacon cults that have a head start. I've found it's pretty easy to bring the "vegomatics" and even the vegonalomaniacs over to the bacon side late night around the campfire when nobody is looking. We need someone to do a venn diagram of all cults. The baconese will be proudly in the middle ovelapping all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooey View Post
    Isn't that what paragraphs are for? To separate individual topics and support them with context?

    Is the problem in the first "paragraph" in that post?

    You can blame my English teachers for making me write so many essays that it has become habit for me, except everything is a rough draft here and people get mad at me for editing.
    If you're composing an essay, you need to stick with one topic, with paragraphs including supporting evidence of your topic statement or thesis.

    Your paragraphs tend to serve as little mini essays because they are not really connected thoughts or statements. It makes it confusing to read.
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