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    Hey all you computer types.....

    The computer at work (information kiosk) gives us a message every time we try to log in. "The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain has failed." The domain is the campus-wide network, and it's connected via Ethernet cable.

    The boss is out for the weekend, so we don't get any help from him. Any ideas on how to fix this?


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    Takes a long time to rebuild trust, lots of nurturing.

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    Re: Hey all you computer types.....

    Reset the computer account. You have to be able to login to the computer with a local admin account. Step 4 has the netdom command.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Takes a long time to rebuild trust, lots of nurturing.


    As for resetting it, I don't have admin access. Guess we're waiting for the boss to show up on Monday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post


    As for resetting it, I don't have admin access. Guess we're waiting for the boss to show up on Monday.


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    Aren't you still in touch with Marvin the Martian? I bet he could fix things up for you right quick!
    The commute's a bit long for him to stop by...


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    The commute's a bit long for him to stop by...


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    He'd probably just try to blow it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    The commute's a bit long for him to stop by...


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    I just figured he could do it for you online....

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    I could tell you how to repair the computer and change the local admin password, but that might get you fired.

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    I could tell you how to repair the computer and change the local admin password, but that might get you fired.

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    Especially if anything was encrypted since it would be gone...

    But yeh IT doesn't take it well when people forcefully repair things.

    Plugging a disconnected cable in is one thing...

    If you don't have a phone number for IT then wait for your boss. I am surprised you don't have some sort of IT department to call though.

    I mean I doubt your boss knows what to do besides make a phone call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwx View Post
    He'd probably just try to blow it up.

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    Our workstations do that here. On ours we log in as a local admin, remove it from the domain, reboot, log in as a local admin again, and add it back to the domain. Reboot once more and it will log in as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
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    Uh, you're gonna need a bigger hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Uh, you're gonna need a bigger hammer.
    You'd be surprised...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Dockrey View Post
    Our workstations do that here. On ours we log in as a local admin, remove it from the domain, reboot, log in as a local admin again, and add it back to the domain. Reboot once more and it will log in as usual.
    That's way too many steps. Just reset the computer with the netdom command or the powershell equivalent in the link I posted. No need to disjoin from the domain.

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    Especially if anything was encrypted since it would be gone...

    But yeh IT doesn't take it well when people forcefully repair things.

    Plugging a disconnected cable in is one thing...

    If you don't have a phone number for IT then wait for your boss. I am surprised you don't have some sort of IT department to call though.

    I mean I doubt your boss knows what to do besides make a phone call.
    Tru dat... But a company small enough to only have 1 IT guy probably isn't encrypting workstations... Maybe laptops if anything.

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    It needs a manual external adjustment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drwx View Post
    Tru dat... But a company small enough to only have 1 IT guy probably isn't encrypting workstations... Maybe laptops if anything.

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    I wasn't knocking your logic it's spot on...

    But its not worth his job to find out. All of our workstations and laptops have the folders that can have documents saved to encrypted using the standard built in encryption that came with windows. That way if some jackass copy and pastes or screenshots sensitive information and then looses his laptop its safe. Well the laptops are safe anyways no matter what. But the workstations don't have self encrypted hard drives that wipe themselves if removed.


    Anyways I just want to say I wasn't knocking what your saying but believe me there are some smaller companies that have taken advantage of BitLocker. Using that and disabling thumb drives adds enough security to keep the average idiot from accidentally letting sensitive information get lost.

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    Why the hell would a printer print just fine one day and then not respond the next? Its one of our networked printers at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    Why the hell would a printer print just fine one day and then not respond the next? Its one of our networked printers at work.
    Try turning it off and then back on again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    Try turning it off and then back on again.
    I tried that to no avail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    I tried that to no avail.
    I have a printer at work that does this all the time. I just do as Bro suggested and it works for another couple of days then the process repeats itself. Unplug it and then plug it back in and you're golden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    Its one of our networked printers at work.
    Restart the print spooler service on the print server. Or just reboot the print server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    Restart the print spooler service on the print server. Or just reboot the print server.
    Ummm isn't that what I said above you ^^^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    Restart the print spooler service on the print server. Or just reboot the print server.
    I'll try this, I'm away from it now. Thank God!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    I have a printer at work that does this all the time. I just do as Bro suggested and it works for another couple of days then the process repeats itself. Unplug it and then plug it back in and you're golden.
    I tried this and it didn't work. I didn't unplug it but I turned if off and on but same difference.
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    Did you try restarting the print spool server? You could always just reboot it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Did you try restarting the print spool server? You could always just reboot it too.
    This sounds like sage advice. Seems familiar somehow but I just can't put my finger on it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    This sounds like sage advice. Seems familiar somehow but I just can't put my finger on it...
    And if that doesn't work, try a restart on the print service spooler. Or a reboot.

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    I know you unplugged to force a restart, but did you plug it back in? Sometimes that helps too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    I know you unplugged to force a restart, but did you plug it back in? Sometimes that helps too.
    Lol, I think you might be onto something. Happily I did not have a blonde moment though.
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    Hey all you computer types.....

    Try hitting it a few times with an open palm.

    Just don't hit it with a fist. That could result in suspension from work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    Try hitting it a few times with an open palm.

    Just don't hit it with a fist. That could result in suspension from work.


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    So far I've only resorted to some harsh verbal abuse. However it took all my inner strength not to go all "Office Space" on that printer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    However it took all my inner strength not to go all "Office Space" on that printer.
    That's always an option. Because it feels good to be a gangsta.


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    PC load letter...WTF...LOL!!
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    Years ago I bought a house, as was tradition, anybody who bought a house in a particular year hosted a very large family Christmas party. I went to a Circuit City about 45 minutes away and bought a very nice ($1500 in 1994 money) component stereo system. Got home, 3 hours till party time, plugged it in, no right channel. Called the store, they said bring it in, I cussed them out, drove back over and got another one. Hour and a half later. I plug it in, turn it on, absolutely nothing. I called the store, quite pissed, they said bring it back, I got really pissed, so they hooked me up to technical service. The tech asks, "Is it plugged in?" I don't remember exactly everything I said to him, but stupid fukr was part of it, and I told him if he was there when I got there I was going to kick his ass. They met me coming in the front door, with about a $4000 stereo system on a cart in a free upgrade exchange, and turned me right around without ever letting me near the service department.

    Moral of the story Mook, tear that piece of shyt printer a new ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Years ago I bought a house, as was tradition, anybody who bought a house in a particular year hosted a very large family Christmas party. I went to a Circuit City about 45 minutes away and bought a very nice ($1500 in 1994 money) component stereo system. Got home, 3 hours till party time, plugged it in, no right channel. Called the store, they said bring it in, I cussed them out, drove back over and got another one. Hour and a half later. I plug it in, turn it on, absolutely nothing. I called the store, quite pissed, they said bring it back, I got really pissed, so they hooked me up to technical service. The tech asks, "Is it plugged in?" I don't remember exactly everything I said to him, but stupid fukr was part of it, and I told him if he was there when I got there I was going to kick his ass. They met me coming in the front door, with about a $4000 stereo system on a cart in a free upgrade exchange, and turned me right around without ever letting me near the service department.

    Moral of the story Mook, tear that piece of shyt printer a new ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
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    At a place that I used to work, you could set the messages on the printer screen. This was a favorite.... As was "insert coin".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Ummm isn't that what I said above you ^^^.
    No. You said unplug and replug the printer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    No. You said unplug and replug the printer.
    He already tried that, net. What do you think about spooling up the reprinter service boot?

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    I think if this is a Windows© based network, the problem can be resolved by restarting the print spooler service on the print server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    No. You said unplug and replug the printer.
    In so many words yeah. But you know damn well I meant whatever it was that you said.
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    Well, the printer and the print server are two different things. I guess I was confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    I think if this is a Windows© based network, the problem can be resolved by restarting the print spooler service on the print server.
    Excellent idea. Amazes me that nobody else has come up with that. You, net wurker, put the net wurker in net wurker.

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    This should fix it.
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    If she doesn't show up for a field repair, Mookie, and if you have access to the print server, try this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    Well, the printer and the print server are two different things. I guess I was confused.
    Well this whole thread is mumbo jumbo to me until we started talking about unplugging the printer and then plugging it back in. That I can relate to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Years ago I bought a house, as was tradition, anybody who bought a house in a particular year hosted a very large family Christmas party. I went to a Circuit City about 45 minutes away and bought a very nice ($1500 in 1994 money) component stereo system. Got home, 3 hours till party time, plugged it in, no right channel. Called the store, they said bring it in, I cussed them out, drove back over and got another one. Hour and a half later. I plug it in, turn it on, absolutely nothing. I called the store, quite pissed, they said bring it back, I got really pissed, so they hooked me up to technical service. The tech asks, "Is it plugged in?" I don't remember exactly everything I said to him, but stupid fukr was part of it, and I told him if he was there when I got there I was going to kick his ass. They met me coming in the front door, with about a $4000 stereo system on a cart in a free upgrade exchange, and turned me right around without ever letting me near the service department.

    Moral of the story Mook, tear that piece of shyt printer a new ass.
    Nice upgrade! I could just imagine the conversation before you got there. "OK boys we got this dude coming in and he's really, really pissed. Whatever we do do not let him get anywhere near service. At ALL costs DO NOT let him near service! Guys, we need to give him the high end Fujimatsu 3000 - its the only way."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
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    The printer's acting up again, DJ.

    Can you help me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    This should fix it.
    Well this should fix one of my problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    If she doesn't show up for a field repair, Mookie, and if you have access to the print server, try this:
    Holy crap, this looks like something that will actually get the printer up and running again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    The printer's acting up again, DJ.

    Can you help me?
    I'm laughing and turned on at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    The printer's acting up again, DJ.

    Can you help me?
    I'm on my way " darling"..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    Why the hell would a printer print just fine one day and then not respond the next? Its one of our networked printers at work.
    IP number conflict. Next question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    IP number conflict. Next question?

    Already resolved heyyall, spool the Microsoft reboot server. Thanks anyway. We are now to the T&A part of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Already resolved heyyall, spool the Microsoft reboot server. Thanks anyway. We are now to the T&A part of the thread.
    You shall receive.
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    Ooooh, and A that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    IP number conflict. Next question?
    Question #2: This printer has always worked so is it possible that the printer address has changed for some reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Already resolved heyyall, spool the Microsoft reboot server. Thanks anyway. We are now to the T&A part of the thread.
    Oh that's right, this is the OC. Of course we've moved onto T&A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    IP number conflict. Next question?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    Question #2: This printer has always worked so is it possible that the printer address has changed for some reason?


    I can imagine that happening in two, not common at all, scenarios:


    A - This is a new printer installation on the network, and someone accidentally assigned it an already in use IP address.


    B - For some reason, the network was set up with the printers all using DHCP for IP address assignments, instead of using static IP addresses for all the printers. (and not setting up DHCP reservations for the printers)


    For some reason, the DHCP server suddenly assigns this printer an "already in use" IP address. There would probably need to be something wrong with the DHCP server for this to happen, though. It just doesn't happen.


    Microsoft print servers are famous for "losing track" of it's shared network printers. The common fix when a printer is reported to be off-line is to restart the print spooler on the server. If this temporarily "fixes" that printer, but it continually keeps going off-line, I would look at updating the firmware on the printer, and also maybe updating the print driver for that printer on the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    Question #2: This printer has always worked so is it possible that the printer address has changed for some reason?
    Not really, but a new printer with a conflicting IP could have been brought online. The rebooting etc makes it a toss up on which printer will be seen on the network. This happened to me at work this year.
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    Hey all you computer types.....

    Net -your "A" happened to me. The install tech essentially had a typo in the IP number in the new printer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Net and Heyyall do I need to worry about this using AOL dial up?
    Speaking of Aol, my parents received a $10,000 phone bill when they were using aol. They had clicked on a malicious website. This website closed the aol connection and dialed a number in Africa. This company set the minute charge to something around 25,000 per min. In the time it took them to hang up, they racked up a bill. The phone company took the charge away, but my recommendation is to be afraid, very very afraid. Out of curiosity, where do you plug a phone cord into your iPad? I have repeated used a vice to flatten a phone plug so that it fits into the lightening port but I haven't yet squished it just right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    Net -your "A" happened to me. The install tech essentially had a typo in the IP number in the new printer.
    I guess that may be more common than I suspect.

    Let me clarify: It is UNHEARD OF in my organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Net and Heyyall do I need to worry about this using AOL dial up?
    No worry's, however, if you want truly blazing internet, you'll need to swap out that 28.8k modem with a 56k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    No worry's, however, if you want truly blazing internet, you'll need to swap out that 28.8k modem with a 56k.
    Oh the memories..
    Heyyall that's a pretty crazy story. I'm sure your parents were thrilled with rhe whole computer generation.
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    net and heyyall - thanks for that info. That all makes sense to me, to the extent that it can. I know enough to be able to use the info so I'll be looking into that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    net and heyyall - thanks for that info. That all makes sense to me, to the extent that it can. I know enough to be able to use the info so I'll be looking into that stuff.
    You're welcome Mook glad I could help.
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    Okay, so...When will the CCW turn into a T&A thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Okay, so...When will the CCW turn into a T&A thread?
    They all turn that way eventually. We're kinda talented like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
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    It seems to have fixed itself (or our crack IT team got on the job).

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