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    Ferrari Ownership Rules: You think you’ve got the right? Think again.

    This first came to my attention recently where I heard a rapper bought a Ferrari and then he modified it to his liking. Ferrari confiscated it back under written and or unwritten rules of Ferrari ownership.

    Whether you agree or disagree, think it right or wrong on this [written and unwritten] list of rules you gotta laugh.

    Be sure to open the link and read down the list of “written” rules. Keep in mind their are other “unwritten” rules you must abide by in order to buy one and keep in in your grasp.

    https://www.thethings.com/20-rules-f...ing-a-ferrari/

    Some examples if you are too lazy to open the link.

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    I have yet to grant them a license to sell me one.......

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    They confiscated it back! Well they should refund his money back too then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomby Woof (MCM700) View Post
    They confiscated it back! Well they should refund his money back too then!
    Not sure how all that played out.
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    I did a novitec body kit and an akrapovic exhaust on a 599 GTB at the performance shop, Ferrari did not approve. Ferrari says their cars are perfect out of the factory and do not need to be changed.
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    Ferrari should be happy the guy didn't donk it out.

    Oh... Who has photoshop skills, here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckha62 View Post
    Ferrari should be happy the guy didn't donk it out.

    Oh... Who has photoshop skills, here?
    Pretty sure that’s their reason for the rules. I’m so happy they have these rules.
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    the deadmau5 car looks like sh!t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by be1 View Post
    the deadmau5 car looks like sh!t.
    And that’s putting it lightly.

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    Oops I thought you said Fezzari.
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    Yep, their rules are one of the two reasons I won't have a Ferrari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider View Post
    Yep, their rules are one of the two reasons I won't have a Ferrari.
    Not having the money being the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Not having the money being the other?
    Bingo!
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    I must admit I'm not a Ferrari fan. I like some of their older cars, the F40 and 1984 GTO for instance, but I don't like the company and it's a long time since they've made a car I've liked the look of.

    Their racing record is no better. The 2005 American FI GP for instance. Ferrari refused to go along with proposed track changes which would have allowed all teams to race and the result was the six-car farce we all saw. Not impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    I must admit I'm not a Ferrari fan. I like some of their older cars, the F40 and 1984 GTO for instance, but I don't like the company and it's a long time since they've made a car I've liked the look of.

    Their racing record is no better. The 2005 American FI GP for instance. Ferrari refused to go along with proposed track changes which would have allowed all teams to race and the result was the six-car farce we all saw. Not impressed.
    Yeah i was at that race. I was pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avlfj40 View Post
    Yeah i was at that race. I was pissed.
    Quite rightly. It was a disgrace.

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    Sorry, still one of the most design forward high tech super car makers in the world. I get the prestige and rules. Kudos to them for being able to pull it off all these years and especially in today’s sue happy world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Sorry, still one of the most design forward high tech super car makers in the world.
    I didn't say they were not, I said I don't like them.

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    Well, as someone I can't remember once said, I wouldn't want to be a member of a country club that would let someone like me be a member.
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    I liked that Magnum PI one when I was a kid, (was that a 308?). But to me they can not compare to the Lambo Countach and Diablo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALE View Post
    I liked that Magnum PI one when I was a kid..
    So did I. Funny to think that it's no faster than a typical modern hatchback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Quite rightly. It was a disgrace.
    Context of 2005 US GP starting-grid was the Bridgestone Teams (Jordan, Ferrari, Minardi) had tires able to sustain the venue; Michelin did not have tires for the inner course at Indy.


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    1951 Pirelli 7 Firestone 1 Dunlop 0 Englebert 0
    1952 Pirelli 7 Firestone 1 Dunlop 0 Englebert 0
    1953 Pirelli 8 Firestone 1 Dunlop 0 Englebert 0
    1954 Pirelli 4 Continental 4 Firestone 1 Englebert 0 Dunlop 0 Avon 0
    1955 Continental 5 Englebert 1 Firestone 1 Pirelli 0 Dunlop 0
    1956 Englebert 5 Pirelli 2 Firestone 1 Dunlop 0 Avon 0
    1957 Pirelli 7 Firestone 1 Englebert 0 Dunlop 0 Avon 0
    1958 Dunlop 7 Englebert 2 Continental 1 Firestone 1 Pirelli 0 Avon 0
    1959 Dunlop 8 Firestone 1 Avon 0
    1960 Dunlop 9 Firestone 1
    1961 Dunlop 8
    1962 Dunlop 9
    1963 Dunlop 10
    1964 Dunlop 10 Goodyear 0
    1965 Dunlop 9 Goodyear 1
    1966 Goodyear 4 Dunlop 3 Firestone 2
    1967 Firestone 6 Goodyear 5 Dunlop 0
    1968 Firestone 6 Goodyear 3 Dunlop 3
    1969 Dunlop 6 Goodyear 3 Firestone 2
    1970 Firestone 10 Dunlop 2 Goodyear 1
    1971 Goodyear 7 Firestone 4
    1972 Firestone 7 Goodyear 5
    1973 Goodyear 15 Firestone 0
    1974 Goodyear 15 Firestone 0
    1975 Goodyear 14 Firestone 0
    1976 Goodyear 16 Dunlop 0 Bridgestone 0
    1977 Goodyear 17 Dunlop 0 Bridgestone 0 Michelin 0
    1978 Goodyear 11 Michelin 5
    1979 Goodyear 8 Michelin 7
    1980 Goodyear 11 Michelin 3
    1981 Michelin 13 Goodyear 2 Avon 0 Pirelli 0
    1982 Goodyear 8 Michelin 8 Pirelli 0 Avon 0
    1983 Michelin 9 Goodyear 6 Pirelli 0
    1984 Michelin 14 Goodyear 2 Pirelli 0
    1985 Goodyear 15 Pirelli 1
    1986 Goodyear 15 Pirelli 1
    1987 Goodyear 16
    1988 Goodyear 16
    1989 Goodyear 16 Pirelli 0
    1990 Goodyear 16 Pirelli 0
    1991 Goodyear 15 Pirelli 1
    1992 Goodyear 16
    1993 Goodyear 16
    1994 Goodyear 16
    1995 Goodyear 17
    1996 Goodyear 16
    1997 Goodyear 17 Bridgestone 0
    1998 Bridgestone 9 Goodyear 7
    1999 Bridgestone 16
    2000 Bridgestone 17
    2001 Bridgestone 13 Michelin 4
    2002 Bridgestone 15 Michelin 2
    2003 Bridgestone 9 Michelin 7
    2004 Bridgestone 15 Michelin 3
    2005 Michelin 18 Bridgestone 1
    2006 Michelin 9 Bridgestone 9
    2007 Bridgestone 17
    2008 Bridgestone 18
    2009 Bridgestone 17
    2010 Bridgestone 19
    2011 Pirelli 19
    2012 Pirelli 20
    2013 Pirelli 19
    2014 Pirelli 19
    2015 Pirelli 19
    2016 Pirelli 21
    2017 Pirelli 20
    2018 Pirelli 21
    2019 Pirelli 21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    So did I. Funny to think that it's no faster than a typical modern hatchback.
    Don't get me started on that.
    My 93 Cobra has the same HP (~235) as our '10 honda minivan.

    Love the mystique of Ferrari...And the sound? Marone!!!
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    on a lambo did work on
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    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    I was never much of a fan of Lamborghinis. Too angular lines for me.
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    Lamborghini were for coke dealers and sports players and Ferrari were for enthusiasts well at least it used to be that way.

    Ferrari are much more elegant.
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    I would rather have a Porsche than a Lamborghini or Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Lamborghini were for coke dealers and sports players and Ferrari were for enthusiasts well at least it used to be that way.

    Ferrari are much more elegant.
    This, the Countach reminded me of a go kart with a body dropped on it. Saw so many in SoCal in the late 80’s through the 90’s. Suddenly they weren’t so popular come the 2000’s. Just a dated look. An old Ferrari never loses it’s appeal. They make timeless designs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    Well, as someone I can't remember once said, I wouldn't want to be a member of a country club that would let someone like me be a member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
    Groucho Marx.
    Thanks!

    Lambos and Ferraris are lousy bike haulers.
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    Dream Car Rentals in Vegas modifies their Ferraris with governors.
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    Former FIL used to have a Ferrari. His favorite thing each year was go to the Pebble Beach Concours where he could park in the special place reserved for Ferrari attendees, and hang out with all the other Ferrari owners, while being treated to special events in the Ferrari compound.

    Besides that, he rarely drove the thing. It was a garage queen.

    Ugly car, IMO - long time ago - it was a Testarossa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Dream Car Rentals in Vegas modifies their Ferraris with governors.
    This is not Ferrari issued. It's sophmoric auto-news filler content. There are the same write ups for Bugatti, for E30 M3, for Corvette etcetera etcetera.

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    Pretty sure that’s their reason for the rules. I’m so happy they have these rules.
    The upstart of this began w/ some internet whiz morphing the Prancing Horse into a brand and not the lack of acknowledgment by the private-party. Well within bounds of tort law.

    What motivated this a bit was yet another Internet-cred creation with a pair of said web browser's signature high tops above the Car Emblem for a MyTwitFace moment.

    Ferrari Brand covers a large consumer good segment; clothing, home accessories. This from the manufacturer was extremely pointed but, it is the internet.

    So, yeah, this topic is mostly pointless unless you enjoy those David Hasselhoff timeline popups and, really-high-guy Coffee Mugs.
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    of all the problems I have being a multi-billionaire, Ferrari ownership is not one...because I am not a total toolbag and want reliable vehicles... I am keeping my Toyota Tacoma to haul my loot around in thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Lamborghini were for coke dealers and sports players and Ferrari were for enthusiasts well at least it used to be that way. Ferrari are much more elegant.
    I think that used to be the case but I'm not a fan of the way modern Ferraris look.

    If you see the close up, Lambos are too big. They are as wide as a truck. Make an amazing noise though.

    When I was at high school a friend of mine's dad had a Ferrari Dino. He was an ex racing driver and hard to believe now but Dinos weren't very expensive back them. They weren't considered 'proper' Ferraris.

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    ^use to do TT's run by a dude with a Dino 308 V8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    ^use to do TT's run by a dude with a Dino 308 V8.
    I never saw it! Saw pictures of it but the guy got bussed into school and I was never at his house. In Scotland back then there were far less cars, my parents never had a car, in fact neither of them could drive, and John's house was not easy to get to by bus. He lived on a converted farm.

    His name was John kirk, yeah his nickname was captain, and his dad really did have the Dino but we always pretended we didn't believe him.

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    When you brought up the Dino model it reminded me of this bizarre true story. A guy buried a Dino and collected insurance on it if I remember right.



    Read the story here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...me-5872514/amp

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    Amazing story! Kirks Dino was red but looked the same as that one. Probably didn't have the ugly wheel arch lips but I can't remember. It was close to forty years ago! ;0)

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    My last job as an auto mechanic was at a Porsche/ Audi/ VW dealer. We had a "bumper guy" whom owned a bodyshop somewhere near Villanova University (in Bryn Mawr PA) I was there picking off and dropping off a car to get straightened out (service writer wasn't as functional an functional acholic as he thought he was. And he just loved scraping walls will 911s)
    But the shop had a semi new 355 (this was 96-98 maybe) It apparently was a theft recovery one of the techs was putting back on the road.
    He pieced it together from a few different cars. But he couldn't get the thing to start. He went to the local dealer to see if they could reprogram something.
    I was there talking to the tech and three guys in suits came storming in, screaming at. well everyone.
    They were a bunch of lawyers for Ferrari. They wanted the car scrapped. They wanted all the different serial numbers for all the parts and the VIN numbers for the cars they got parts from.
    They demanded he remove the Ferrari emblems and decals (this instant!!) They threatened to sue every person that was in anyway involved with the repair shop. The parts vendors. The janitors. The guy that fills the vending machines. Etc.
    I don't know how it all ended. But I know this little argument ended when the owner tripped and scrapped his hand up pretty bad on something. And one of the lawyers left with blood down the front of his shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chewymilk99 View Post
    My last job as an auto mechanic was at a Porsche/ Audi/ VW dealer. We had a "bumper guy" whom owned a bodyshop somewhere near Villanova University (in Bryn Mawr PA) I was there picking off and dropping off a car to get straightened out (service writer wasn't as functional an functional acholic as he thought he was. And he just loved scraping walls will 911s)
    But the shop had a semi new 355 (this was 96-98 maybe) It apparently was a theft recovery one of the techs was putting back on the road.
    He pieced it together from a few different cars. But he couldn't get the thing to start. He went to the local dealer to see if they could reprogram something.
    I was there talking to the tech and three guys in suits came storming in, screaming at. well everyone.
    They were a bunch of lawyers for Ferrari. They wanted the car scrapped. They wanted all the different serial numbers for all the parts and the VIN numbers for the cars they got parts from.
    They demanded he remove the Ferrari emblems and decals (this instant!!) They threatened to sue every person that was in anyway involved with the repair shop. The parts vendors. The janitors. The guy that fills the vending machines. Etc.
    I don't know how it all ended. But I know this little argument ended when the owner tripped and scrapped his hand up pretty bad on something. And one of the lawyers left with blood down the front of his shirt.
    Funny story.
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    Ferrari is "Italian Garbage"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgzilla View Post
    Ferrari is "Italian Garbage"
    Right! They’ve only been at the top of the game for 50 plus years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mileslong View Post
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    I have trouble believing any decent 'merican lawyer couldn't get around these ownership rules in a U.S. court.

    I wonder if Ferrari pulls this off in other ways, such as telling the owner that Ferrari would never sell them another car if they don't obey... or that the Ferrari warranty or repair network would refuse to work on their car if the owner didn't obide.

    I'm no lawyer, but my gut feels like any U.S. court would side with the owner if he paid in full. Despite possibly a verbal discussion before sale or a fine print agreement, it's too easy to say "I wasn't paying attention" or "I didn't read it". Between the owner saying those things, or Ferrari saying he should've read the fine print or listened better, I'd think a U.S. court would side with the owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelspeed View Post
    I have trouble believing any decent 'merican lawyer couldn't get around these ownership rules in a U.S. court.

    I wonder if Ferrari pulls this off in other ways, such as telling the owner that Ferrari would never sell them another car if they don't obey... or that the Ferrari warranty or repair network would refuse to work on their car if the owner didn't obide.

    I'm no lawyer, but my gut feels like any U.S. court would side with the owner if he paid in full. Despite possibly a verbal discussion before sale or a fine print agreement, it's too easy to say "I wasn't paying attention" or "I didn't read it". Between the owner saying those things, or Ferrari saying he should've read the fine print or listened better, I'd think a U.S. court would side with the owner.
    Ferrari protects themselves this way by having a written contract prior to purchase. I’m with you that it’s amazing to me that this has gone on this long without a huge legal battle that Ferrari loses.
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    Ferrari had an issue with "Ferris Buellers Day Off" because the Ferrari in the movie was a kit car. They did use a real 250 GT for close up shots.

    Chewymilk99, That body shop story with the Ferrari, that car wasn't black was it? We had one come into our shop years ago that was a real POS. Wouldn't start, outside trim panels were held on with electrical tape and sheet metal screws. The owner had it sold on CL but needed it to get started. was a wiring nightmare. Wouldn't tell us how where he got the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Ferrari had an issue with "Ferris Buellers Day Off" because the Ferrari in the movie was a kit car. They did use a real 250 GT for close up shots.
    Good to hear it was a kit car. I cringe every time I watch that. There’s a kit that is adapted to 1970-1973 Datsun 240Z that mimics a 250 GT. Looks pretty good to those without a keen eye. There was a red one running around my area years ago. Many thought it was a Ferrari. There’s also a kit like that for a Fiero that does an ok job but not nearly as convincing as the 240Z kit.
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    I was into the kit cars years ago.

    My favorite was the Velo Rossa kit made by Ztrix. they have lots of cool bodies for the old Z cars.

    -bob-coover-velo-rossa.jpg
    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I was into the kit cars years ago.

    My favorite was the Velo Rossa kit made by Ztrix. they have lots of cool bodies for the old Z cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I was into the kit cars years ago.

    My favorite was the Velo Rossa kit made by Ztrix. they have lots of cool bodies for the old Z cars.

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    That’s the kit I was referring to for a Z-car. At first glance they look like a Ferrari. Difference is they are a shorter wheelbase than a Ferrari and the interior is Z-Car. Dashboard gives it away. Cool looking rides though.
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    the fiero based ones were terrible.
    -pontiac-fiero-ferrari-f40-replica-1.jpg

    There were ones that were built on custom tube chassis and those cost as much as buying some of the real cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I was into the kit cars years ago.

    My favorite was the Velo Rossa kit made by Ztrix. they have lots of cool bodies for the old Z cars.

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    like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Ferrari had an issue with "Ferris Buellers Day Off" because the Ferrari in the movie was a kit car.
    They used kits and mockups in Miami Vice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    the fiero based ones were terrible.
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    There were ones that were built on custom tube chassis and those cost as much as buying some of the real cars.
    Lol
    Yep, too small for a F40.


    On a side note, I have fond memories of the Fiero when it first came out. A one nighter, every time I see one parked to this day I have to walk up to it in amazement at what we achieved in that tiny cockpit.

    I had plenty of those experiences in my 240Z back in the day but the Fiero cockpit has a huge square console in the middle of the two seats. Not just ugly but it makes for not much room to move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    They used kits and mockups in Miami Vice too.
    They used a Corvette as the base to build the kit. More in line with the a Ferrari dimensions.
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