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    I will have to say Seattle has good tasting tap water and I simply try to avoid Tucson.
    Dont make me go all Jonathan Winters on this gas station.

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    During the apocalypse I refuse to drink anything less than Perrier or pure mountain spring water.
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    Given all the talk about people hoarding TP I cheked my supply and was suprised to find I have 2 huge packes of Costco TP. We are not hoarders but I hate to go to Costco so when I do I stock up. We have not been there for at least 2 months so It payed off. Since I installed a Bidet on each of our toilets many years ago we should be good for at least 6 months

    RO filter gives us good drinking water.... My only concern is I'm out of milk but that is not a good enough reason for me to ventur into a germ infested grocery store yet.

    Whenever we make a pot of something like green chilli or spagheti sauce we always make extra and freeze it for easy convenient future meals. given that practice we have enough food to last us another 3 week easilly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Given all the talk about people hoarding TP I cheked my supply and was suprised to find I have 2 huge packes of Costco TP. We are not hoarders but I hate to go to Costco so when I do I stock up. We have not been there for at least 2 months so It payed off. Since I installed a Bidet on each of our toilets many years ago we should be good for at least 6 months

    RO filter gives us good drinking water.... My only concern is I'm out of milk but that is not a good enough reason for me to ventur into a germ infested grocery store yet.

    Whenever we make a pot of something like green chilli or spagheti sauce we always make extra and freeze it for easy convenient future meals. given that practice we have enough food to last us another 3 week easilly.
    And unfortunately TP has an expiration date. Sorry to be the bearer if bad news my friend but yours has expired. Iíd be happy to dispose of them properly [no charge of course] if youíd just ship them and Iíll also pay shipping. Address has been PMíed.
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    Get in line. I already have a Prince in Nigeria on tap to dispose of the expired TP....

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    Well, fortunately (??) we live in a high seismic risk area and I have a decent bit of emergency food, water, etc. on hand for an earthquake. I wasn't really planning on dealing with a pandemic, but the earthquake preparations seem appropriate for this too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I will have to say Seattle has good tasting tap water and I simply try to avoid Tucson.
    Yeah, I do like our water here. I think it makes for good beer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
    After living in Coronado for close to 30 years, I hardly flinch.

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    I drink Cascade mtn water all the a time, it's fantastic. Especially when combining a spring and a fresh burn, nothing like it. I view it as a privilege really. Cabin in the woods, fresh spring water, giant garden, fresh game in the freezer, and a loyal dog is my fantasy of the good life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    I drink Cascade mtn water all the a time, it's fantastic. Especially when combining a spring and a fresh burn, nothing like it. I view it as a privilege really. Cabin in the woods, fresh spring water, giant garden, fresh game in the freezer, and a loyal dog is my fantasy of the good life.

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    I used to directly drink Cascade creek water a long time ago. These days, I always filter it first.
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    One night in the mountains we set our night camp next to a beautiful fresh spring with a crystal clear pool by it. The water tasted wonderful. We went to sleep as usual under the stars, but were woken early by the sounds of local women collecting dung and using the spring to soften it to fashion fuel cakes for the winter. Our interpreter was told they did this most mornings... The crystal clear water was not any more, and I soon had my second bout of the 30 second rush... at least Tucson water ain't quite that bad.
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    ^642 deaths in Italy today, wow!

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    I just got a letter from work that we are considered critical infrastructure personnel by DHS and exempt from lockdown.

    I guess I may get the trails all to myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Lol
    Took me a minute but well worth that minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Did this last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    Did this last night.
    Where? All the bars and restaurants are closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Where? All the bars and restaurants are closed.
    If you really study that picture closely, you'll see that they are not at a bar or a restaurant, but rather, they are hangin' out in front of their houses in the neighborhood, drinking beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    If you really study that picture closely, you'll see that they are not at a bar or a restaurant, but rather, they are hangin' out in front of their houses in the neighborhood, drinking beer.
    Seriously!?! You felt the need to explain that photo? I got it right away. I was wondering if Slapheadmofo found a bar open or he created his own social interaction at home. There are some establishments that have remained open that were ordered closed.

    Maybe, just maybe a bar had an outside area that this group in the photo was hanging at.
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    Yeah, not really sure why I thought you thought he was at a bar or a restaurant.

    Oh wait, maybe it was this.

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    Where? All the bars and restaurants are closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    Yeah, not really sure why I thought you thought he was at a bar or a restaurant.

    Oh wait, maybe it was this.

    What do you mean? That was clear as mud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    Yeah, not really sure why I thought you thought he was at a bar or a restaurant.

    Oh wait, maybe it was this.
    Are we really arguing this? The quarantine is apparently getting to us.
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    A picture (cartoon) of dudes hangin' out in their yard drinking beer.

    A member here says " Yeah, I did this last night".

    To me that means he was hangin' out in his yard, drinkin' beers with his buddies.

    You say "How? All the bars and restaurants are closed"

    What do bars and restaurants have to do with hanging' out in your yard drinkin' beers?

    That's my question.

    Either I'm confused here, or you are.

    Explain it to me.
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    Net for the Win on this one....




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    Un-confuse me.
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    The bar down the road is packed. All Phoenix bars and restaurants are ordered to be closed or take out only.. You could say we are Phoenix technically but a long ways away from Phoenix proper.

    I'm going 4wheeling with friends tomorrow. All have radios so no one gets out of the truck. Beer will be consumed at a safe distance after the trip

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    Overboard much?

    Sounds like a good time Azimiut, be careful.
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    Anybody else find this Charles Lieber character curious? Enough chronology and coincidence there to make for a good plot to a movie thriller.

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    Anybody else find this Charles Lieber character curious?
    Yep.
    The FBI.
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    Interesting read on what they know so far.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/nove...110000180.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    The bar down the road is packed...
    ...with selfish idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    ...with selfish idiots.
    Speaking of....

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/viru...072721740.html


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    And then thereís these selfish pricks having ďcorona partyísĒ and intentionally coughing on the elderly.

    https://news.yahoo.com/virus-rebels-...124556301.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    And then thereís these selfish pricks having ďcorona partyísĒ and intentionally coughing on the elderly.

    https://news.yahoo.com/virus-rebels-...124556301.html
    I just spoke to my daughter in london and she tells me people are still congregating in parks there. Makes my blood boil, which is not a good thing right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    And then thereís these selfish pricks having ďcorona partyísĒ and intentionally coughing on the elderly.

    https://news.yahoo.com/virus-rebels-...124556301.html
    ...and if anyone intentionally coughs at me, they'll feel my elderly fist in their kisser.
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    Best to use a stick......
    A reasonably long one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    ...and if anyone intentionally coughs at me, they'll feel my elderly fist in their kisser.
    Just make sure to wash your knuckles after.
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    I tell ya, I'm getting really tired of washing dishes 3 times a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    A picture (cartoon) of dudes hangin' out in their yard drinking beer.

    A member here says " Yeah, I did this last night".

    To me that means he was hangin' out in his yard, drinkin' beers with his buddies.

    You say "How? All the bars and restaurants are closed"

    What do bars and restaurants have to do with hanging' out in your yard drinkin' beers?

    That's my question.

    Either I'm confused here, or you are.

    Explain it to me.
    Too funny.

    Yeah, we've moved our regular beer drinking events to our driveways/yards.
    BYOB (bottles/beers/bowls) and keep a little distance.

    Adapt and overcome!

    Speaking of, my local brewery is doing curbside keg delivery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    Too funny.

    Yeah, we've moved our regular beer drinking events to our driveways/yards.
    BYOB (bottles/beers/bowls) and keep a little distance.

    Adapt and overcome!
    Well, thanks for setting that straight. I simply asked how youíre doing that if the bars were all closed. I knew what the funny photo was referring to. My rhetorical question was if thatís what you were doing or you found a bar open. Net took it off the cliff with a vengeance because I didnít actually ask if you had a get together in your yard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Well, thanks for setting that straight. I simply asked how youíre doing that if the bars were all closed. I knew what the funny photo was referring to. My rhetorical question was if thatís what you were doing or you found a bar open. Net took it off the cliff with a vengeance because I didnít actually ask if you had a get together in your yard.
    Yeah, all the bars are shut around here, even the outside areas.
    Even if they kept the outdoor areas open, it's only 30 degrees out right now and nights are still in the teens. Luckily my friends are dedicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    Yeah, all the bars are shut around here, even the outside areas.
    Even if they kept the outdoor areas open, it's only 30 degrees out right now and nights are still in the teens. Luckily my friends are dedicated.
    Just hand them each a broom to keep your 6í distance rule and party it up.
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    This morning is the first time in my adult life or possibly entire life that I can't eat what I want because it's literally not available to buy. This is not a woe is me hardship post, just one of observation. My original thought with the first run on grocery stores was if the proverbial "we" could keep them supplied this crises would remain manageable. Interesting times.

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    My wife just shared a video with me about how heated air can kill CV 10 inside the respiratory tract. It suggests saunas and hairdryers could be useful. I am not sure about this, but when I watched the video, I realized something could be amiss here.

    Does anyone else see the Virus on her shoulder?


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    The air temp required to kill the virus in your lungs would destroy your lungs. The temp and humidity in the ambient air is believed to affect the virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkfathom View Post
    the air temp required to kill the virus in your lungs would destroy your lungs. The temp and humidity in the ambient air is believed to affect the virus.
    but do you see it oz!!!
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    Is it Apr 1 yet?
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    but do you see it oz!!!
    Yes, nasty little pecker..
    Possibly her idea of a canary in the mine.....

    But that idea has been circulating around the net in various forms for a week or so in a serious if uninformed context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    And then thereís these selfish pricks having ďcorona partyísĒ and intentionally coughing on the elderly.

    https://news.yahoo.com/virus-rebels-...124556301.html
    All of these people should read, or be read if they cannot, the following just sent to me. It is from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins, altho that is the only attribution I have:

    "It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.
    Seasonal flu is an ďall human virusĒ. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
    Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then itís a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isnít human, and the human immune system doesnít recognize it so, we canít fight it off.
    Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years itís only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly itís gonna be..
    H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. Itís RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
    Fast forward.
    Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, ďslipperyĒ
    This Coronavirus, not being in any form a ďhumanĒ virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.
    And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..
    Thatís why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And itís a lung eater...And, itís already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
    We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
    Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...
    And let me end by saying....right now itís hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
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    Not discounting anything in your piece, how are the majority getting sick fighting this off?
    Most of which are doing it sans medical care.

    Difference between established immunity and immune response?
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    I was curious if this affects different people of specific decent that might have similar DNA characteristics. Does it affect Italian decent more? The family that lost two children and the mother in New Jersey were Italian. They are having issues with native Americans in northern AZ as well. Or is it a culture thing where such Italians are very close with physical expression and touching. Or the middle East where food is eaten in close groups with your hands.

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    Interesting. To me it seams regional. Doesnít appear same parameters in dif places. Environment, lifestyle, diets, population density, dna,
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    Just a theory. Don't take my word on it. I'm not a Dr and I have not stayed in a holiday inn for several years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I was curious if this affects different people of specific decent that might have similar DNA characteristics. Does it affect Italian decent more? The family that lost two children and the mother in New Jersey were Italian. They are having issues with native Americans in northern AZ as well. Or is it a culture thing where such Italians are very close with physical expression and touching. Or the middle East where food is eaten in close groups with your hands.
    The Italians are being affected more because they are older than we are. Their average age is considerably higher than ours (USA).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgzilla View Post
    The Italians are being affected more because they are older than we are. Their average age is considerably higher than ours (USA).
    Have heard this too. While older or comprised certainly more easy taken, Compared to other places older more pronounced in Italy. For now, or so it seems.
    For the record Iím not a doctor but I have stayed at a holiday inn
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    They also have a huge Chinese immigrant population that work in factories there. Made by Chinese in Italy so the Prada and Gucci bags can still say made in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    They also have a huge Chinese immigrant population that work in factories there. Made by Chinese in Italy so the Prada and Gucci bags can still say made in Italy.
    Have met many Italians that travel to China frequently. As well Brazilians.
    Would think, from what we know so far, that Brazilís temps will help curb transmission
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I was curious if this affects different people of specific decent that might have similar DNA characteristics. Does it affect Italian decent more? The family that lost two children and the mother in New Jersey were Italian. They are having issues with native Americans in northern AZ as well. Or is it a culture thing where such Italians are very close with physical expression and touching. Or the middle East where food is eaten in close groups with your hands.
    Italians got affected because they let it grow exponentially. Everyone now is scared to be the next Italy, hence the social distancing. China is a good example of before and after taking measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzarkFathom View Post
    Not discounting anything in your piece, how are the majority getting sick fighting this off?
    Most of which are doing it sans medical care.

    Difference between established immunity and immune response?
    Not my piece, and I am not an immunologist, but I would simply point to the efficacy of the human body's defence system. If we could be wiped out completely by one mutated Corona type virus, I doubt very much we'd be sitting here having this conversation.
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    The truth about Italy is, I believe, somewhere in between what Hawg and CrozC are saying. They do have a slightly higher mean age in the general population, but they also were piecemeal about their response. They closed some places, but not others, but the virus was already out there. Much the same as what is going on here now, and in the UK also.

    It is more likely the Fusco family were so adversely affected because they all went to a dinner party together with one member who was positive it turns out. They do a lot of touching, close contact, and also, if you look at a photo of them, they could well have had some serious health issues.
    My wife also brought something interesting up. As a mold illness sufferer herself, she knows a LOT about the subject. Mold sickness' primary effect is upper respiratory illness, and for those genetically predisposed, the illness can be a great deal more invasive, making the person very susceptible to the kind of virus CV is. Families tend to share some genetic traits, and often members of families share the propensity to be affected badly by mold. It does not take too much to extrapolate the possibilities here... She has said she'd love to get a mold test done on their house...
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    Forgive me if this has already been stated here but we have received a message from friends that is being shared.

    It states that the virus is being spread by gas pump nozzles. Seems obvious if you consider that public door knobs are doing the same thing. But everything should be taken into consideration here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgzilla View Post
    Forgive me if this has already been stated here but we have received a message from friends that is being shared.

    It states that the virus is being spread by gas pump nozzles. Seems obvious if you consider that public door knobs are doing the same thing. But everything should be taken into consideration here.
    The doom of society is the passing back and forth of currency and credit cards.

    I carry Lysol wipes in my truck and used one to hold the gas pump handle yesterday.

    Time for some rubber gloves.
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    The average age in Italy may be related to mortality rate, but not to infection rate. If anything younger population infects faster because most infections are silent and younger populations have much higher social interactions (like school).

    This is the reason:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/w...r-lessons.html

    As Italy's coronavirus infections ticked above 400 cases and deaths hit the double digits, the leader of the governing Democratic Party posted a picture of himself clinking glasses for "an aperitivo in Milan," urging people "not to change our habits."
    In Milan, only miles from the center of the outbreak, the mayor, Beppe Sala, publicized a "Milan Doesn't Stop" campaign, and the Duomo, the cityís landmark cathedral that is a draw for tourists, reopened. People went out.

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    Here's a snapshot from a doctor in a smallish community west of London, outside the main urban sprawl. More sobering stuff, and I dread reading what he might be writing in a couple of weeks:

    Nick Dennison
    "Iíve not posted on FB for a long time so please read this.

    Iím a consultant anaesthetist working in Frimley Park Hospital and this week all anaesthetists are being re-roled as intensive care doctors. We will be tasked with putting the sickest patients under anaesthetic and onto ventilators/life support machines. Each patient will require 10 days+ on a ventilator then may need a temporary tracheostomy to get them off the ventilator.

    The intensive care unit is already full of COVID-19 patients on ventilators (12) with more requiring ventilation every day. My hospital usually has 4-10 patients on ventilators and is planning and EXPECTING 80 patients to require ventilation.

    It seems the public health message is not getting through. Let me be clear. A lot of people are going to die. They will mainly be 70 years plus but be in no doubt, 30-40 year olds will die too.

    Pubs have been busy, offices open, social events happening, kids parties etc. It all needs to stop. Infected people shed virus and it must be everywhere by now. It is your social responsibility to engage in social distancing. Actions NOW can prevent further disease transmission, ICU admissions and deaths in 10-20 days.

    Two of my anaesthetic/ICU colleagues in other hospitals are off work due to being infected (doing ok). As health care workers, we are now EXPECTING to catch it despite PPE. This virus has been transmitted around the globe unchecked and will not stop until it has no where to go - social distancing/isolation Or patient death.

    Here ends my public health message.

    On a more personal level, my son turned three years old last week and is six weeks into a three year chemotherapy program for lymphoma. This virus is a big threat to his life and as I am going to be exposed this week doing my job, I can no longer live at home.

    I have had to make the difficult choice: to do my job and save lives of people I donít know, or to be with my son whilst he battles cancer. Alfie hopefully will survive his cancer and chemo, but many people will die from flu. My heart is broken making this decision, but I choose to save the lives of strangers and leave him in the care of my beautiful wife and family.

    Later this week Iíll be moving into a motor home and will not be able to take any further part in his care for the next 6 months.

    Bottom line. SOCIALLY ISOLATE or people die in two weeks."
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    Germans are not shy! This from a Clinic in Koeln.


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    https://m.theepochtimes.com/the-clos...VHDPAi2gCN6twI

    China phone accounts dropped by 21 million.
    Claimed mortality rate in China 4%
    Currently in Italy it's 9% according to the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    https://m.theepochtimes.com/the-clos...VHDPAi2gCN6twI

    China phone accounts dropped by 21 million.
    Claimed mortality rate in China 4%
    Currently in Italy it's 9% according to the article.

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    I'd be wary of the Epoch Times, they very much have an agenda. It is the Falug Gong and they are fighting against the Chinese government, that is why they are so pro Trump and they have published misleading, untruthful information in the past. They have been banned from buying ads on Facebook and have turned to Youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    I'd be wary of the Epoch Times, they very much have an agenda. It is the Falug Gong and they are fighting against the Chinese government, that is why they are so pro Trump and they have published misleading, untruthful information in the past. They have been banned from buying ads on Facebook and have turned to Youtube.
    Ah, good to know. Not familiar with them. My buddy in Hong Kong posted it as a conspiracy theory article as they're now going back into quarantine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    They also have a huge Chinese immigrant population that work in factories there. Made by Chinese in Italy so the Prada and Gucci bags can still say made in Italy.
    This...! Boat loads of Chinese migrant workers flooding Northern Italy to work in their textile factories. Combined with the one the oldest population ages and largest per capita of smokers in the world could explain why Northern Italy is second highest in dire straights with this virus. If the Communist Chinese government would have been up front and honest about this it would not be a pandemic.

    Lets say some(or one)of the infected locals went skiing in one the bordering countries like they normally do and they're on their way up the slopes on one of those massive gondolas that hold 50-80 people and maybe there might be a tourist from NYC or Seattle skiing on vacation and they return home and...

    Just saying...

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    they very much have an agenda...and they have published misleading, untruthful information in the past.
    Not exactly unique these days.
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    Good news, because people are staying home from work the local radio that works with the animal shelters said adoptions are up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Good news, because people are staying home from work the local radio that works with the animal shelters said adoptions are up.
    Thatís all great but hopefully many donít make it a temporary thing and abandon them when they do go back to work.
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    Most of that movie is COVID-19 memeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Thatís all great but hopefully many donít make it a temporary thing and abandon them when they do go back to work.
    Or eat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdb85 View Post
    This...! Boat loads of Chinese migrant workers flooding Northern Italy to work in their textile factories. Combined with the one the oldest population ages and largest per capita of smokers in the world could explain why Northern Italy is second highest in dire straights with this virus. If the Communist Chinese government would have been up front and honest about this it would not be a pandemic.

    Lets say some(or one)of the infected locals went skiing in one the bordering countries like they normally do and they're on their way up the slopes on one of those massive gondolas that hold 50-80 people and maybe there might be a tourist from NYC or Seattle skiing on vacation and they return home and...

    Just saying...
    I really donít think we can blame the Chinese. Sure they may have been slow to respond at first, but when they did it was massive. The nature of the virus also means that more than likely it would have spread enough to have huge effect before they even knew it. By that token, can you imagine if it had originated in this country? We STILL are not wholly acknowledging the danger and full implications of this. I would hate to live in Idaho right now.
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    This is a sad read. https://news.yahoo.com/elderly-cries...EY7CE3YTwlSLis

    One good idea that was mentioned is taking shopping carts out of the grocery stores to prevent selfish hoarders from taking so much in one visit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    This is a sad read. https://news.yahoo.com/elderly-cries...EY7CE3YTwlSLis

    One good idea that was mentioned is taking shopping carts out of the grocery stores to prevent selfish hoarders from taking so much in one visit.
    My local supermarkets are implementing a 2 item max per shop on same items.

    One drawback of this is, you'll have to go the supermarket more regularly i.e. come in close proximity to other people (possibly carriers of COVID-19)!!

    I know it would be a lot of work, but the government could zone addresses to supermarkets. Shopping on certain days at certain times. Increase max same items to 8.

    Or something similar to above, getting people in then out for a good two weeks or so.

    Went into supermarket this morning and there were people everywhere.

    We've moved the petri dish into supermarkets and away from schools and other high density areas.

    We're up to 100+ cases in my neck of the woods... at the start of the week it was a doz.

    Community transmission has begun and now we're in lock down.

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    Now in Portland you can't buy more than 1 of a single item for the most part. I see pros and cons to that. More visits to the grocery store equals more transmission. Regardless shelves are still really thin with lots of products unavailable. Exceptional America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdb85 View Post
    This...! Boat loads of Chinese migrant workers flooding Northern Italy to work in their textile factories. Combined with the one the oldest population ages and largest per capita of smokers in the world could explain why Northern Italy is second highest in dire straights with this virus. If the Communist Chinese government would have been up front and honest about this it would not be a pandemic.
    There is enough information from Italy about the beginning of the epidemic and the spread, and none of it matches these theories. You can see the link I posted above.

    As far as the Chinese government, they tried to hide, but could not. Everyone knew. As you probably already know, our leading senators were briefed on it in January. This is what one of them told his donors after he sold his stocks before the market crashed:

    "There's one thing that I can tell you about this: It is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything that we have seen in recent history," Burr said in the recording. "It is probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic."

    He was spot on.

    Whether the Chinese government was upfront or not, we knew the facts.

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    Look at whatís happening in other countries and itís predictable.
    In Italy a few weeks ago ppl were ridiculed for wheeling mask. Now theyíre ridiculed for not
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    So today I finally started wearing latex gloves at work, I work with the public. I came to realize they donít really protect you. I find myself touching my face just as much with them on. I also have been washing my hands with them on. Am I missing something here?
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    So today I finally started wearing latex gloves at work, I work with the public. I came to realize they donít really protect you. I find myself touching my face just as much with them on. I also have been washing my hands with them on. Am I missing something here?


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    So I find myself touching my face. Am I missing something here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    We are emotional beings and thatís not a side I want to be on. Itís not dollars vs deaths. Itís ppl first, economy after. According to projections many people will look back at that post and hate you for it. Itís not real until it hits in a personal way. Hope you donít have to experience that like many will. Because according to projections tell millions will over the next few weeks or months, depending on how we handle it, and itís not looking good, short of a cure, vaccine or major progress on treatment.
    If you want to rev the economy back up fix ppl now, or later and have more fallout on both fronts
    The govt waited a long time to tell anyone, nothing serious like travel bans to keep in in China were in place right away.
    Even now, I see groups of people together all the time.

    It's like we refuse to help ourselves.

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    I wish this didn't need to be said: if the mortality rate is 2%, that is devastatingly high. For every 100 infections - 2 will die. Project US infections up to 50% of 320mm people - you get the idea. Be cavalier about transmissions and you will decimate our health care workers - who are sacrificing right now - for the benefit of everyone. Front line of a lethal and easily transmission disease - given that, it's hardly a demanding ask you can stay a home a little bit more. I cannot believe how immune American's are to a little self-sacrifice. As far as the economy, it'll be fine in time....and if it wasn't, consider how good your system is if it is completely destroyed by a little more time inside and a few weeks or months of people buying fewer luxury goods. If it gets clocked by a little interruption, might finally be time to work out better fundamentals. Regardless, letting virus go rampant isn't going to fix the impact as this progresses - just cost more lives.
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    28% of those tested in the Tri-state area came back positive. That figure could be skewed in that we're testing a higher percentage of people with symptoms but that is many times greater than any otherther global or regional rate to what I can read. Quarantine is just that, what we are doing is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    28% of those tested in the Tri-state area came back positive. That figure could be skewed in that we're testing a higher percentage of people with symptoms but that is many times greater than any otherther global or regional rate to what I can read. Quarantine is just that, what we are doing is not.

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    The problem with looking at testing is the curve lags behind. The problem with getting back to work is we donít know who has gained immunity because weíre not testing.
    I agree. We should do what makes sense. Half measures and public platitudes accomplish nothing in a best case and are counterproductive otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    "Isn't the mortality rate only 2% or something like that? I thought that's what I heard on the news tonight.

    We should just carry on , let it run it's course, and not F-up the entire world and economy by being idiots."


    Wait! So this was a JOKE? I know many hold that exact opinion, and until very recently they were sunning themselves on beaches and getting wasted in bars. Now if we can only get the WH team to self isolate and contain that opinion for an indefinite period, we might be getting somewhere...
    Just trying to keep a slight sence of humor in all this. You know, avoid going crazy in the house.
    My wife and I are both working from home.

    No group activities. Cancelled concerts, cancelled dentist appointment, etc etc.

    I ride alone in the woods & hike our property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Most importantly, lm not ............ or licking doorknobs.
    Like me it sounds like you miss it as well, dont worry this will be over soon and we can return to our hobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by targnik View Post
    Went into supermarket this morning and there were people everywhere.


    Community transmission has begun and now we're in lock down.
    This is the biggest problem we're facing, nothing to do with the government but the modern version of the kiwi "she'll be right" attitude which has given people a sense of entitlement and an inability to take things seriously. Queues outside supermarkets, gas bottle supplies etc etc as if they're not going to be open again for another month. Saying "we're allowed to go out until Wednesday night", as if the virus has given us some sort of amnesty that means it won't start infecting people until after midnight on Wednesday. It's mind-blowing how many people seem unable to get their heads around the simple fact that human contact needs to be kept to an absolute minimum for the next month or so for this isolation thing to be effective.

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    I found this interesting: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...spond-to-a?amp

    Might be some something positive
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    Anyone notice a disgusting amount of Colonial Penn and similar senior citizen life insurance commercials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Anyone notice a disgusting amount of Colonial Penn and similar senior citizen life insurance commercials?
    I basically only watch YouTube, so no. Is this on regular TV?

    Why didn't I think of this?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I basically only watch YouTube, so no. Is this on regular TV?

    Why didn't I think of this?!

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    Huh? It says the virus still remains on brass for several hours, so what's the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Huh? It says the virus still remains on brass for several hours, so what's the point?
    Once you put it in your pocket it goes away, outta sight outta mind.

    I linked an article a while back about copper being antimicrobial, and brass is alloy of copper, but you are right tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Anyone notice a disgusting amount of Colonial Penn and similar senior citizen life insurance commercials?
    I can't wait to see the injury attorney ads start pooping up for COVID-19 exposure.

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    I was pumping gas today, I used a paper towel from the windshield wash station. I looked around and saw people using gloves, so at least that's good, and they have trash cans right there.
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    I wonder how places like Golden Corral and your local Asian Super Buffet are going to do after all this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post

    I linked an article a while back about copper being antimicrobial, and brass is alloy of copper, but you are right tho.
    It appears most elemental metals are anti pathogenic. One interesting thing about silver is that bacteria killed with silver in turn kill other bacteria. This is believed in part due to the electrical charge. Humans have known about these properties of at least silver and copper long long before we knew what an atom was. I theorize this is why silver kills werewolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I was pumping gas today, I used a paper towel from the windshield wash station. I looked around and saw people using gloves, so at least that's good, and they have trash cans right there.
    I just overfill, mop up the spillage with a paper towel and wipe may hands with it.

    I need to get a chopstick to start pushing the PoS payment device buttons. I thought about that lighter-paperclip thingy but that might not be such a great idea at the gas station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I linked an article a while back about copper being antimicrobial, and brass is alloy of copper, but you are right tho.
    That's what bottom paint on marine boats are made from. Copper based paints to prevent sea growth on the hull. Copper is very toxic to many crustaceans and other marine creatures.

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    It was in the CV tinfoil hat thread that got locked, pretty interesting read: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...=pocket-newtab

    Gonna think of ways to press buttons out in public without looking like a weirdo, finger gloves are right out. A chopstick might be fun tho, maybe do it how I'd envision Hunter Thompson poking at something with a stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Gonna think of ways to press buttons out in public without looking like a weirdo, finger gloves are right out. A chopstick might be fun tho, maybe do it how I'd envision Hunter Thompson poking at something with a stick.
    Maybe this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...HD12/204620212

    ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    Thinking something like a regular ball point pen or pencil might be best. One could even carry a small notepad to jot down notes and ideas and such.
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    Get something that can be used as a stylus. I wasn't too happy when I picked up a prescription last week and had to sign using the grimy one attached to the display. I grabbed it at the far end where it connects to the cable, actually the flexible part that connects the two. Probably my worst signature ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    Get something that can be used as a stylus. I wasn't too happy when I picked up a prescription last week and had to sign using the grimy one attached to the display. I grabbed it at the far end where it connects to the cable, actually the flexible part that connects the two. Probably my worst signature ever.
    I've done that already also, kinda fumble with it not knowing where to grab it. Chopsticks(2) might be the answer.

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    The virus is spreading to other countries, but China had it right off the bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    The virus is spreading to other countries, but China had it right off the bat.
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    The virus is spreading to other countries, but China had it right off the bat.
    I believe this is your handy work. I hope Nicole is keeping clear of them.

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    Well, Colorado Governor Polis just put in a ďstay at homeĒ order statewide, starting tomorrow morning at 6am. through April 11th. Iím in a essential business so Iím still working. I have a sheet from my work stating Iím a essential worker if I get pulled over. As soon as that emergency alert came over my phone today I had just got off work. Off to the grocery store I went. Even though theyíll still be open the way things are going you never know. As expected the place was packed but they actually had food today. I loaded up on frozen dinners and some fresh food as well, still no toilet paper though. My timing is always off on that but luckily Iím still good for about a month.
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    Welcome to the club.
    My Jersey friends are saying they're being overrun with people fleeing NYC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    My Jersey friends are saying they're being overrun with people fleeing NYC.
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    In the last week I've had two clients fly their kids in from NY, probably not going to work for them for a while.

    We've only got a handful of reported cases here, but you know it's out there spreading. I feel like going to Kroger and trying to talk to someone high up about their gas stations, should at least be warning signs on all the pumps telling people to use gloves or towels to grab the handles, or maybe have someone out there buffing handles like they do at Costco. Don't even get me started on the revolving glass door still being used!
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    I'm 20 miles from society, got an mostly empty guest house except for a bunch of bikes, a fridge full of beer, and a camper hookup. Only cost you that check from the gov.

    We have yet to have a stay at home order in AZ. The wife and I both have "essential jobs". She wrote up one for her employees, need to get one for ours if the time comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrozCountry View Post
    And bearing gifts with them
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    DJ, are you still touching your face?

    I just rubbed my eye, dammit!

    You don't know where that finger's been!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    In the last week I've had two clients fly their kids in from NY.
    This is more or less why I call BS on flattening the curve. I see nothing we're currently doing that would genuinely slow transmission.

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    Have family and countless friends in ny and NJ and see and hear of none of this. In fact everyone is staying close to home with minimal exposure.
    Agreed as Americans weír doing lil to curb the curve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    DJ, are you still touching your face?

    I just rubbed my eye, dammit!

    You don't know where that finger's been!
    Lol
    Hell yeah, Iím a face toucher and I never even realized it.

    Something new in the Safeway I went to today. They installed a 4í long 3í tall piece of glass or plexiglass at the registers that acts as a buffer between the cashier and the customer. The credit card machine is just to the right of it so it works out.
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    So if the models are correct (big if) and the deaths in the U.S. peak don't peak for another 3 weeks, with a doubling every 2-3 days, and we already stand at 928 deaths today -- yikes?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/healt...ist/index.html
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    119k in 3 weeks? That will sober a lot of people up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    119k in 3 weeks? That will sober a lot of people up.

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    Its a shame it has to come to this, should paid more heed to what was happening here in Europe
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    Actually I'm seeing 1032 reported deaths as of today. It's amazing how much that changes the calculous 3 weeks out.

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    Another piece from the guy Corn referenced, (thanks again by the way for the introduction) interesting points to consider on Fear and the relationship between it and Ego and Rational Thought.
    Oh yeah, and Old Men riding trikes.....
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    Reminds me of a movie character I can't place. The riff between him and the interviewer is pretty good.

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    ďIf you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.Ē


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    Looking back over 60 years of life, with fears, tears, and loss, this still rings true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    Reminds me of a movie character I can't place. The riff between him and the interviewer is pretty good.

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    Gandalf?
    He could do an excellent Lord of the Rings voiceover.

    There is a bit of poetic prescience here, having not seen it in years....
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    So if the models are correct (big if) and the deaths in the U.S. peak don't peak for another 3 weeks, with a doubling every 2-3 days, and we already stand at 928 deaths today -- yikes?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/healt...ist/index.html
    If we follow the Italian model the death rate will slow. While their rate was a bit higher than ours is now, it has slowed and is now doubling every 5-6 days.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    I'm 20 miles from society, got an mostly empty guest house except for a bunch of bikes, a fridge full of beer, and a camper hookup. Only cost you that check from the gov.

    We have yet to have a stay at home order in AZ. The wife and I both have "essential jobs". She wrote up one for her employees, need to get one for ours if the time comes.
    So I'd get to drink all the beer and keep all the bikes?

    Tell me more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
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    I just rubbed my eye, dammit!
    With DJ's finger?!? Creepy!
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    It's getting closer. Friend of my wife's best friend tested positive, now he is showing signs and waiting on test results. In the current situation, just to be given a test is not great news. She was with him 2 days ago bringing him a box of gloves we had spare so he could use them to help keep his business going. She says she didn't have close contact with him, so fingers crossed...
    I gotta have an MRI tomorrow to check something they found on my CT last week, and I am torn. I need to get this looked at just in case, but that exposure is worrying.
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    ^^^ Best of luck. I was fortunate to have had a PET scan done a month ago and another appointment at the hospital 3 weeks ago. Where I go nuc-med is pretty isolated. Hopefully your radiology department is too. Can you go to an MRI clinic vs hospital? It may be less of a hot spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    It's getting closer. Friend of my wife's best friend tested positive, now he is showing signs and waiting on test results. In the current situation, just to be given a test is not great news. She was with him 2 days ago bringing him a box of gloves we had spare so he could use them to help keep his business going. She says she didn't have close contact with him, so fingers crossed...
    I gotta have an MRI tomorrow to check something they found on my CT last week, and I am torn. I need to get this looked at just in case, but that exposure is worrying.
    Is there a route into that branch of the hospital that you can take to avoid the Lurg-folk? Wear a mask and gloves and do you best to keep a social distancing space between you and the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    It's getting closer. Friend of my wife's best friend tested positive, now he is showing signs and waiting on test results. In the current situation, just to be given a test is not great news. She was with him 2 days ago bringing him a box of gloves we had spare so he could use them to help keep his business going. She says she didn't have close contact with him, so fingers crossed...
    I gotta have an MRI tomorrow to check something they found on my CT last week, and I am torn. I need to get this looked at just in case, but that exposure is worrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    So I'd get to drink all the beer and keep all the bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgzilla View Post
    Is there a route into that branch of the hospital that you can take to avoid the Lurg-folk? Wear a mask and gloves and do you best to keep a social distancing space between you and the others.
    I'm not sure about that, but I think the Radiology dept. is actually across the street from the hospital. There are a lot of other facilities in the same location tho. I usually go to a different place, and last time they were not exactly fastidious with their protective measures. I was the only one in there wearing a mask and gloves...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    I'm not sure about that, but I think the Radiology dept. is actually across the street from the hospital. There are a lot of other facilities in the same location tho. I usually go to a different place, and last time they were not exactly fastidious with their protective measures. I was the only one in there wearing a mask and gloves...
    Realistically there is a limit to what they can do. Even if the hospital staff is wearing protection, people in the waiting area most likely not. All you need is one caugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    Interesting. To me it seams regional. Doesnít appear same parameters in dif places. Environment, lifestyle, diets, population density, dna,
    And weather and aquariums. You and I are totally screwed!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by azimiut View Post
    Are you currently on shelter in place?
    Here in LACo, we are on the "safer at home" order which is the same thing, only different.
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    Stay at home order in place in Colorado statewide yet I just got off work [Iím in an essential business] and the roads are packed with vehicles. Selfish people everywhere running around without a care in the world.

    And here they just announced the USA has surpassed the number of confirmed cases over any other country.

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    I thought this was interesting with timing and all....

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    Lots of interesting things regarding timing. Begs the question how many coincidences need to align before it's no longer random.

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    Probably a conspiracy of sorts.

    Just to cheer a few up for a second.

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    Guy ran out of toilet paper so a buddy helped hime out.

    The dreaded Lurg!-tp-over-sf-drone.jpg

    Also a vid:

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    ^Awesome, lol!

    On a moar serious note: Are there any good articles on how this thing spreads besides the CDC one? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nsmission.html

    I know it can last for days in droplets from a cough or sneeze. I just don't know if I'm going overboard or not, trying to avoid even the tiniest contact with anything public.
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    This is good info DJ, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Toilet paper. Donít use toilet paper that someone else has used.
    For what exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    ^Awesome, lol!

    On a moar serious note: Are there any good articles on how this thing spreads besides the CDC one? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nsmission.html

    I know it can last for days in droplets from a cough or sneeze. I just don't know if I'm going overboard or not, trying to avoid even the tiniest contact with anything public.
    You're not going overboard, a lot of people are going underboard, err, staying on the ship. While the odds may be low, I'm reducing my and my family's odds as much as possible. We're staying home. I am fortunate that we have a relatively large property (little more than an acre) and Spring has sprung and the trees and azaleas and flowers are blooming. If I was cooped up in an apartment, I probably would be going crazy.

    In general, Americans are being a lot less careful than they were/are in China and Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Toilet paper. Donít use toilet paper that someone else has used.
    Sure.
    Now you tell me.

    You'd think this kind of information would be written as a warning on the TP packaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazpat View Post
    You're not going overboard, a lot of people are going underboard, err, staying on the ship. While the odds may be low, I'm reducing my and my family's odds as much as possible. We're staying home. I am fortunate that we have a relatively large property (little more than an acre) and Spring has sprung and the trees and azaleas and flowers are blooming. If I was cooped up in an apartment, I probably would be going crazy.

    In general, Americans are being a lot less careful than they were/are in China and Korea.
    I guess it's best to just assume it's on everything you touch outside your home. Today I'll probably start a routine of disinfecting all the points of contact in the house and vehicles, maybe once in the morning or later in the day. If this virus can live for days on a surface I guess it doesn't need a "droplet" to stay wet in, a cough in a hand and then that hand on a gas pump etc would be enough to transmit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I guess it's best to just assume it's on everything you touch outside your home. Today I'll probably start a routine of disinfecting all the points of contact in the house and vehicles, maybe once in the morning or later in the day. If this virus can live for days on a surface I guess it doesn't need a "droplet" to stay wet in, a cough in a hand and then that hand on a gas pump etc would be enough to transmit it.
    I did a modified version of your gas pump safe handling drill yesterday. Latex gloves on, soaked a couple paper towels in the soapy windshield cleaner fluid and wiped down the pump handle, pumped my gas, replaced the handle and wiped it down again for the next person. I got a few odd looks, even from my dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    I did a modified version of your gas pump safe handling drill yesterday. Latex gloves on, soaked a couple paper towels in the soapy windshield cleaner fluid and wiped down the pump handle, pumped my gas, replaced the handle and wiped it down again for the next person. I got a few odd looks, even from my dogs.
    Nice! There's this cool older gal that works the Kroger station and she hates being in the cubicle, she's always outside doing something, yesterday she was cleaning the pumps, hope all are doing that but I doubt it. I went with my dad to get gas and showed he how to use the paper towel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHALENARD View Post
    For what exactly?

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    found a cure to the virus!

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    Better to be overly cautious, as there are a lot of people that aren't. And likely spreading it.

    We moved from town into the woods, so I have a box of "dog poo bags" that don't get much use anymore. I use them to cover my hand while pumping gas.

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    Here's a little something for all the selfish MTBikers still riding with their buddies who want to help the curve strengthen. Copied from a friend who's an ER Nurse.
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    Here's a little something for all the selfish MTBikers still riding with their buddies who want to help the curve strengthen. Copied from a friend who's an ER Nurse.
    https://www.facebook.com/celeste.kan...21733262062918
    Im still riding with 2 mates, but theres no physical contact, and no after ride beers (this realy sucks), so its like we are riding alone, but still together.

    Its weird though
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