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    Do you ever look at people in the fairly new cars they're driving...

    ...and think, "wtf were you thinking when you bought that?"

    Examples: Jeep owners. Do you even READ the horrible maintenance issues Jeep owners have?

    Smart Cars. These people must be idiots. There is not one iota of good about these cars. They don't even get good gas mileage for their size. And talk about unsafe and slow!

    To a lesser extent: Nissan. They suck. Remember when Datsun used to RULE? Now they don't. Change the name back, bring back the quality!

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    Do you ever look at people in the fairly new cars they're driving...

    No, I always keep my eyes fixed on the road ahead. Unless they're driving the new car in my blind spot, then I give them a quick glance.

    On a related note, I saw a guy driving a early 2000's Jaguar with a license plate frame that read, "Temporary Loss of Rational Thought"
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    No, I always keep my eyes fixed on the road ahead. Unless they're driving the new car in my blind spot, then I give them a quick glance.

    On a related note, I saw a guy driving a early 2000's Jaguar with a license plate frame that read, "Temporary Loss of Rational Thought"
    One of the biggest mistakes I've ever made was buying a Jag for my girlfriend. What a POS it turned out to be. Nothing but constant electrical problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    One of the biggest mistakes I've ever made was buying a Jag for my girlfriend. What a POS it turned out to be. Nothing but constant electrical problems.
    Is that some sort of fancy vibrating dildo?????
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    Smart cars are good in dense cities for fitting into small spots. But otherwise pretty useless. I had a jeep cherokee once. Even the jeep mechanic threw his arms up and gave up. Gave it to my mom's friend for parts and not even good for that because you have to take apart half the car just to remove what you want. Total friday afternoon / monday morning lemon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    One of the biggest mistakes I've ever made was buying a Jag for my girlfriend. What a POS it turned out to be. Nothing but constant electrical problems.


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    I'm always reading car reviews and yes I'm constantly thinking that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Examples: Jeep owners. Do you even READ the horrible maintenance issues Jeep owners have?
    I must be lucky. my 07 Grand Cherokee has been rock solid since day 1. It's got 130k on it now. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it across the country tomorrow.

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    i have to put a water pump in my 04t Grand Cherokee tomorrow! in spite of the myriad of dents and scrapes I've provided to it, its been a pretty good ride.
    I will add, it has been paid for ever since I agreed to take it home!

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    Till the major auto makers make a factory vehicle that can actually keep up with a Wrangler offroad (or in the marketplace and aftermarket), I'm forced to deal with the alleged maintenance headache, I suppose.

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    2015 Wrangler Rubicon (4Dr) - 16,000 miles - No Issues
    I guess I can't complain...

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    Have had various jeeps throughout my life and can't complain. My current is an 06' Commander with 170k. Still purin like a kitten. Considering what i'v put it throu that's amazing.
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    Good to hear your stories about the reliable Jeeps, but the key words were fairly new in my post heading.

    Forbes rates 3 (THREE!) Jeep models poorly out of 13 new cars: Jeep Cherokee - In Photos: 13 New Cars To Avoid For 2016 - Forbes

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    Minivans... that's when I think: "wtf were you thinking when you bought that?" Ha ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Minivans... that's when I think: "wtf were you thinking when you bought that?" Ha ha!
    I don't have a minivan, but man, it must be great to fit 3 bikes and 3 people inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Good to hear your stories about the reliable Jeeps, but the key words were fairly new in my post heading.

    Forbes rates 3 (THREE!) Jeep models poorly out of 13 new cars: Jeep Cherokee - In Photos: 13 New Cars To Avoid For 2016 - Forbes

    Sheesh!
    Lol, forbes isn't politically and financially skewed. You can trust them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    I don't have a minivan, but man, it must be great to fit 3 bikes and 3 people inside.
    Ya know, they are kinda cool, actually. Here's what you need, so you don't get stuck in the mud.

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    Do you ever look at people in the fairly new cars they're driving...

    ^ Chevy astro van 4x4. One of the last truck platform-based minivans. It was rumored to be one of the better tow vehicles second to the surburban.
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    As for a second question, how many people drive around in their cars with a mindset, "hey look at me, I'm so cool. I have the greatest car money can buy?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    ^ Chevy astro van 4x4. One of the last truck platform-based minivans. It was rumored to be one of the better two vehicles second to the surburban.
    I was just wondering about that, and thinking about a low budget DIY sportsmobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Minivans... that's when I think: "wtf were you thinking when you bought that?" Ha ha!
    A minivan is an amazing vehicle if you've got a young family. Especially multiple kids. Comfortable, quiet, awd in some cases, and you can haul around everything you might need. Automatic sliding doors provide easy and wide access when you've got your arms full. We had one when my son was small, and it was the perfect tool for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    As for a second question, how many people drive around in their cars with a mindset, "hey look at me, I'm so cool. I have the greatest car money can buy?"
    uh, every Mercedes driver.... ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    Lol, forbes isn't politically and financially skewed. You can trust them
    I believe their list was taken from Consumer Reports.
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    Land Rovers and their brethren are known for being wrought with problems. What a huge waste of money (and time at the shop) for such an ego boost.

    Others have mentioned Jeeps and Jags, both known for their horrible reliability.

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    saw a bright gold and black lambo with paper plates on my way to work this morning. everyone was getting stacked up behind him and honkin at the guy. he was in the left most doin maybe 55mph in a 65 zone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    2001 Honda Accord 98000 miles - Timing Belt and Water Pump.
    2006 Ford F250 Diesel 122000 miles - Alternator and Oil Cooler.

    Both bought new with cash. Both will be driven until they fall apart under my ass.
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    This is a great article about some of the dumb reasons people buy new cars:

    Stop Buying Cars To Save Money*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Minivans... that's when I think: "wtf were you thinking when you bought that?" Ha ha!
    I hate the stigma attached to mini vans... I rented a Honda Odyssey for a vacation, it was flat amazing. great to drive, super comfy for everyone, great gas mileage, and like others have said, I can lay the seats down and get in a bunch of bikes, or my bike alone, with room for me to sleep next to it. If it had a little more ground clearance for dirt roads, it might be the perfect MTB trip vehicle.

    My wife drives a 2014 Pilot, and it's just as sweet, but slightly less room, and no in-seat DVD screens or other 'road trip' bells and whistles. I could foresee myself with an Odyssey someday.

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    ^ i'm glad there's people like you! that means there are more RWD, two seat coupes available with a trunk big enough for no more than a pair of shoes.
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    I used to race dirtbikes with a guy that drove a 4wd astro-van. Decent mileage and he had his bed and a full worshop in the back of it. I wouldn't drive a van but I could handle a 4wd astro-van.

    Even though I constantly get asked why I bought my 2003 Toyota tundra stepside. It's bed is ugly as sin but that allowed me to get it at a great price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    ^ i'm glad there's people like you! that means there are more RWD, two seat coupes available with a trunk big enough for no more than a pair of shoes.
    Those are cool too, I used to drive an Audi TT roadster, but If I was going to an MTB destination tomorrow, and had the keys to an Audi or a Odyssey, I know which I'd choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by scot_douglas View Post
    I will, as soon as I stop coughing from all the pollutants you're spewing!
    I have a GTI, not a diesel VW, but to make up for that I've got a 2002 Dodge diesel truck that's in the process of slowly falling apart. It pollutes plenty, no doubt.

    I don't expect to buy any more cars, ever. I've got the same POV on bikes. It's a weird part of getting older, you start to realize there's no reason to replace anything because what you've already got is going to outlast you in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    Good to hear your stories about the reliable Jeeps, but the key words were fairly new in my post heading.

    Forbes rates 3 (THREE!) Jeep models poorly out of 13 new cars: Jeep Cherokee - In Photos: 13 New Cars To Avoid For 2016 - Forbes

    Sheesh!
    The same Forbes who said the 2005 Titan was the best ever and in 2006 was the worst ever with NO changes lmfao

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    It's kinda funny watching Americans slag off foreign cars when American cars are so bad no other country in the world wants them! Do the Japanese want your cars? No. Do the Europeans want your cars? No. Why not? because they are terrible.

    Carry on :0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    It's kinda funny watching Americans slag off foreign cars when American cars are so bad no other country in the world wants them! Do the Japanese want your cars? No. Do the Europeans want your cars? No. Why not? because they are terrible.

    Carry on :0)
    Actually the Mustang is finally being sold in Europe and the initial sales numbers are very good. Europeans do want some American cars.

    Certainly not all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    It's kinda funny watching Americans slag off foreign cars when American cars are so bad no other country in the world wants them! Do the Japanese want your cars? No. Do the Europeans want your cars? No. Why not? because they are terrible.

    Carry on :0)
    How are the Teslas selling overseas?
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    American-branded cars are the dominant representatives on the list of least reliable cars (e.g. Consumer Reports' list of 20). But Acura, Hyundai, Infinity/Nissan, and Mercedes (2x) were all in the list. And of course Fiat was the worst

    I was surprised to see Jaguar and Land Rover not in the list, but then I saw they were not included due to "lack of data".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Actually the Mustang is finally being sold in Europe and the initial sales numbers are very good. Europeans do want some American cars.

    Certainly not all of them.
    Or many of them?

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    And yeah, good luck when those Teslas are out of warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    It's kinda funny watching Americans slag off foreign cars when American cars are so bad no other country in the world wants them! Do the Japanese want your cars? No. Do the Europeans want your cars? No. Why not? because they are terrible.

    Carry on :0)
    You do realize many American cars are made abroad and Japanese cars are made in the US. Even many BMWs on the road in the US were built in the US. It's a global economy these days and I really don't know what an "American" car is any more.
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    Watched a show about a year ago about how most of asia is craving american cars and they demand hi dollars there. Not so much because they'r good, but because they want to be more american.
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    Well one good thing about being from the US is that we don't have to worry about always trying to point out why other countries suck like so many not from here constantly do towards us. Oink oink

    I don't pay too much attention to what people drive but do wonder why dudes lift trucks and put big tires on them when it makes the truck worse than stock off-road (not talking about legit mods but the body lifts that are stupid high).

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    I don't pay too much attention, except to the cars right in front of me.
    Granted, some of our roads suck, but I guess my pet peeve is the people with 4WD vehicles that come to a complete stop and then slooowly roll over bumps or smooth railroad crossings that I don't even need to slow down for in my Corolla.
    That, and the sports cars poking in the passing-only lane. I'm happy for you that your Corvette has 505HORSepower(according to the tag on one last week), but would appreciate it if you'd scoot over so I can use some decent fraction of my 132.
    Yeah, I do sometimes wonder why they're driving what they are...

    >340k problem free miles between my Corolla and Tundra. Gotta love that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Ochmonek View Post
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    I don't pay too much attention to what people drive but do wonder why dudes lift trucks and put big tires on them when it makes the truck worse than stock off-road (not talking about legit mods but the body lifts that are stupid high)....
    I dont use them myself on Jeeps (JKs), but I understand small body lifts (for better tire clearance) in conjunction with suspension lifts - but I get what you're saying. Too much unnecessary lift drastically alters the vehicles center of gravity. Modest suspension upgrades and flat fenders for tire clearance is definitely the way to go.

    Even more perplexing to me is spending the money to mod a vehicle for offroad use, and then never actually wheeling it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal-Cracker View Post
    I dont use them myself on Jeeps (JKs), but I understand small body lifts (for better tire clearance) in conjunction with suspension lifts - but I get what you're saying. Too much unnecessary lift drastically alters the vehicles center of gravity. Modest suspension upgrades and flat fenders for tire clearance is definitely the way to go.

    Even more perplexing to me is spending the money to mod a vehicle for offroad use, and then never actually wheeling it

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    Exactly! I take my 4Runner off-road a decent amount and all I have done to it is put some good rubber on it for the job. It has gotten me through some rough stuff far out in the sierras yet the jeep I park next to at work with 35's, a winch, jack etc has never seen dirt.
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    I never got the Aztec, one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen, smart cars are idiotic. I love my 05 Tundra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Ochmonek View Post
    Exactly! I take my 4Runner off-road a decent amount and all I have done to it is put some good rubber on it for the job. It has gotten me through some rough stuff far out in the sierras yet the jeep I park next to at work with 35's, a winch, jack etc has never seen dirt.
    My 2006 Tacoma which I bought new now has 127 K. on it. New tires, batteries and oil changes is all it's ever asked me for. It has been out 4 wheeling on occasion and the 4wd gets used regularly through the snowy months of Colorado. The only complaint I have with it is that it doesn't wash itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    How are the Teslas selling overseas?
    Heck, the guy behind Tesla is barely American! ;0) Do love those astonishing cars though. Who wouldn't want a car with a 'ludicrous mode'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    The only complaint I have with it is that it doesn't wash itself.
    And I'm sure if it could complain, ...
    Women belong in the kitchen.
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    Kitchen has food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgiantsfan View Post
    Some minivans are cool
    that's made by TONKA and therefore doesn't count.
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    Hey look.....a Ferrari!

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    ^ get your eyes off my wife!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one ring View Post
    And I'm sure if it could complain, it would comment on such an amazing owner it has.
    Probably so, but it's an inanimate object so we'll never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    ^ get your eyes off my wife!!!!
    Have you seen how she's aged?

    60 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Have you seen how she's aged? 60 years old.
    No idea who that is.

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    Follow the quotes above. She is the girl in the Ferrrari that was a scene in the movie Vacation. Which also starred Chevy Chase. One of the all time best comedy movies. She was an American supermodel who married rock / pop legend Billy Joel. Who wrote several songs about her. His most famous of which was Uptown Girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Thanks, Wiki-DJ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Have you seen how she's aged?

    60 years old.
    i know, i have to pinch myself every morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    I don't have a minivan, but man, it must be great to fit 3 bikes and 3 people inside.
    That's how the thought process starts Finchy. "Oh, look, it's practical" or "I could use that to take the kids..."

    Before you know it......MOM VAN. A middle aged man driving a MOM VAN. In public. Sell your bikes at that point because it's over man, it's over...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    That's how the thought process starts Finchy. "Oh, look, it's practical" or "I could use that to take the kids..."

    Before you know it......MOM VAN. A middle aged man driving a MOM VAN. In public. Sell your bikes at that point because it's over man, it's over...
    That's one way of looking at it. Another is how admirable it is that someone is comfortable enough with themselves that they don't let their ego get in the way of a practical, good decision.
    Makes me think of the time when all the posers, with their shinny new bikes and matching stretchy clothing were snickering at the guy who shows up with an old beat up 26er. Then couldn't keep up and got blown away by sheer skill. The excuses as to why in the aftermath were pure gold.
    Round and round we go

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    That's one way of looking at it. Another is how admirable it is that someone is comfortable enough with themselves that they don't let their ego get in the way of a practical, good decision.
    Makes me think of the time when all the posers, with their shinny new bikes and matching stretchy clothing were snickering at the guy who shows up with an old beat up 26er. Then couldn't keep up and got blown away by sheer skill. The excuses as to why in the aftermath were pure gold.
    Strike a nerve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    Strike a nerve?
    Normally when ppl wage personal attacks because of their own insecurities i perceive that as an injustice but so far no, i'm good, thanx for asking
    Round and round we go

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrpiffle View Post
    Strike a nerve?
    You don't think he has a point? I kinda do...

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    I'm middle age and have a minivan. It's actually my third minivan. Somehow I still proudly have my man card. As a bonus, I have savored the many cross country family trips we have been able to talk in it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    You don't think he has a point? I kinda do...
    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I think this thread started as a troll and it's evolved into a full blown troll.
    Yup
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    Opinions are like a... Wait, is it ok to use this cliché statement or do I need approval from strangers on the Internet? Lol, go ride a bike ya dorks.
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    When I use to see a Pontiac Aztec (new one), I use to think that same thing. Who would go into a Pontiac dealer, see that car and think "thats the one right there?" "Thats a bad ass car and I'll take it." I've recently developed the same feeling for the BMW X6, which I think is Aztec-ess.

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    my eyes!! MY EYES!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakester View Post
    When I use to see a Pontiac Aztec (new one), I use to think that same thing. Who would go into a Pontiac dealer, see that car and think "thats the one right there?" "Thats a bad ass car and I'll take it." I've recently developed the same feeling for the BMW X6, which I think is Aztec-ess.

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    I can see the correlation ...almost.

    Although it does have 300 HP. It's not
    60 K worth .

    60K for basically an over luxurious AWD / Subaru, that's probably not even as capable.

    No thanks!

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    Not really, i mean, they are driving a new car while i'm stuck in mine. Jelly much ?
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