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    The DEA says jump you, you jump!

    The DEA is banning a natural leaf "kratom" on September 30th 2016.
    The DEA decided they would bypass the legal way of handling researching of a leaf. This leaf has been used for thousands of years to help with multiple issues.
    • Pain – It has been used to treat severe pain, some cases where people have to take the addicting pain killers (opiates) to feel relieved. So it replaces those addicting substances.
    • Anxiety – Some people use this to help with anxiety because it relaxes you and you don’t feel so nervous.
    • Energy – When taken in low doses it can be very stimulating, very similar to coffee. Even though it is slightly stimulating, you will still be able to sleep.
    • Sleep – In higher doses it can make the user slightly tired and want to sleep. It does not make you completely crash like a sleeping pill. It is more subtle and you don’t feel tired the next day unlike sleeping pills.
    • Depression – It has been studied and proven that it has a natural anti-depressant inside the leaf.
    It is a close relative to the coffee tree. The leaf has been used in tea form or powder/crushed leaf. Some people try to claim they get “high” from this leaf, but if that is the case then they also must believe they are “high” from coffee.
    A lot of people are speculating that the pharmaceutical companies are behind the ban and that why the DEA decided they would take this around about way to make it illegal. If people are using this natural plant to treat all these symptoms, the pharmaceutical companies will be losing a lot of money. They can’t cash in on a product that is legal to grow at home.
    There has been 0 deaths linked to kratom, the only deaths out there are of using kratom while they took other drugs. If we wanted to link anything to a death we could do that by looking at deaths that have occurred by a drug then what ever we chose to link to the death find that in the autopsy of the deceased and claim that it caused the death. All deaths linked to this leaf have been linked in this same manor.
    This leaf is used by everyone from the young adults to the elderly. They all have their reasons we use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    The DEA is banning a natural leaf on September 30th 2016.
    I thought this has always been the case, until recently in a couple of lucky states?
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    Follow the money ... If big Pharma can't make a buck on it ... they make sure it goes nowhere and they can continue to prescribe drugs to take it's place. Edit: I see you covered my thoughts already ... I failed to read your closing comments ... Sorry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    I thought this has always been the case, until recently in a couple of lucky states?
    Uptight bastards, release the leaf to all so my state stops the population explosion.
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    Also a job security for the DEA, same like the growers who votes against making it legal in CA.
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    There are over 100 dispensaries in Toronto. Legislation has not been finalized...we'll have to wait til 4/20 2017

    Currently
    opening up a storefront = not illegal
    paying rent, employees, taxes = not illegal
    selling the devil's lettuce = illegal

    There have been a few raids but most shops continue to operate

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    This stuff is nothing like MJ. it's more like coffee. Tons of articles popping up every. It's sounds like just the thing to help with all the drug problems. Herion is out of control in the north east. Every day there are 4-5 ODs in the few small town around me. It seems like the average age for kratom is in the mid 60s it seems to help with a lot of different problems and replaces lots of nasty mess, which is why iys being targeted by DEA. https://www.wired.com/2016/09/dea-wr...oid-addiction/
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    Kratom not mary Jane...

    ...is what the OP is talking about. Never heard of it until now. (or paid any attention if I did)

    If anything the DEA is adding it to their list as job protection as MJ becomes legalized in more places.

    Kratom sounds like "coffee plus"; after all the tree is related to coffee.
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    Apparently you can buy Kratom through mail order as well as at some dispenseries.

    I thought the OP was about weed and called it leaf
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    Never knew what Kratom was until just now. I've hear the word, but that's about it. Typical government over reach. I agree it's about job security for the DEA. Once weed becomes legal, they'll need more evil herbs to protect us from.
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    Maybe cows like this too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclelicious View Post
    There are over 100 dispensaries in Toronto. Legislation has not been finalized...we'll have to wait til 4/20 2017

    Currently
    opening up a storefront = not illegal
    paying rent, employees, taxes = not illegal
    selling the devil's lettuce = illegal

    There have been a few raids but most shops continue to operate

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    LOL
    Makes you wonder how much was smoked when that was made up.
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    theres some major petitions going about the DEA

    The Main One --- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petit ... newsletter

    https://www.change.org/p/food-and-drug- ... m=copyLink signed it! :P

    The other 2

    --- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... duling-dea


    --- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petit ... schedule-1


    I had no idea how dirt the DEA was

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    This a pretty informative article from the Washington post about kratom and what the DEA is doing. It just blows my mind that they would take away some that seems far less dangerous than other things they allowed, and it seems to have helped so many older folks

    www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/15/the-dea-wants-to-ban-another-plant-researchers-say-the-plan-is-insane/?client=safari

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    They aren't just "banning" it. They are moving to classify it as a Schedule 1 drug, the most restrictive category, reserved for drugs with no medical use and high probability for abuse. They're saying this is more dangerous than pharmaceutical opiates and stimulants.

    FWIW, marijuana is also still classified as Schedule 1 as well. Equally unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    theres some major petitions going about the DEA

    The Main One --- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petit ... newsletter

    https://www.change.org/p/food-and-drug- ... m=copyLink signed it! :P

    The other 2

    --- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... duling-dea


    --- https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petit ... schedule-1


    I had no idea how dirt the DEA was
    Nice job on those links.
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