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    PMBAR-12, 4-20, 40+mi, 10K+ climb

    Monday April 20th, yes 4-20 , the last (for me) PMBAR attitude/shakedown ride before the big adventure.

    Starting from Blk Mtn trailhead
    Blk Mtn => Turkey Pen => Bradley Creek => 5015
    => Laurel Mtn => Connector => Pilot => Pilot/Slate
    => Pilot Cove Loop => 1206 => 476 => S. Mills => Buckhorn

    .... finish route depends on the time of day, but for sure down Blk to end it.

    #1 => Blk Mtn => Avery Crk => 477 => Maxwell => Blk Mtn to lot.
    #2 => Blk Mtn to lot
    #3 => Clawhammer => Maxwell => Blk Mtn to lot

    Trails Illustrated says 43.5 miles and 12K climbing, Id estimate 45+ miles and 10K+.... no bailouts on this route, rest stops kept to a minimum, up tempo pace for as long as possible.

    Meet in the lot @ 7:30AM, up the mountain @ 8AM - just like race-day.

    So come on out if you've got the time. How can you possibly resist some 4-20 attitude adjustment.
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    Sounds like more fun than sex. Lasts longer, anyway. Too bad I have to work. Even if I didn't have to work, I would make up some work to avoid pushing my bike up Turkey Pen again this century!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike
    Sounds like more fun than sex. Lasts longer, anyway. Too bad I have to work. ....!
    If sex lasted that long it would be work

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    Starting from Blk Mtn trailhead
    Blk Mtn => Turkey Pen => Bradley Creek => 5015
    => Laurel Mtn => Connector => Pilot => Pilot/Slate
    => Pilot Cove Loop => 1206 => 476 => S. Mills => Buckhorn


    1 Cp.
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    it's not the miles it's the smiles that's what get's you to the end, no matter how many miles to get 4 CPs, but point taken for sure Once you show me the passport it won't take me 45 miles to get 1 CP ( I hope)

    My Salsa says "Ride and Smile" so I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions

    1 Cp.


    PMBAR 06, 5 cp's =
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    Just teasin, Nick...You've been puttin lots more miles in than me lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike r


    PMBAR 06, 5 cp's =
    You guys are going about training the wrong way.

    See the computer in the picture, the important part lies in 0.0 mph. That was the average speed because they hiked all 80+ miles. Anybody can ride a bike for 80 miles . . .
    BS'ing less, riding more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Starting from Blk Mtn trailhead
    Blk Mtn => Turkey Pen => Bradley Creek => 5015
    => Laurel Mtn => Connector => Pilot => Pilot/Slate
    => Pilot Cove Loop => 1206 => 476 => S. Mills => Buckhorn


    1 Cp.
    I think he's serious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by extrmtao
    You guys are going about training the wrong way.

    See the computer in the picture, the important part lies in 0.0 mph. That was the average speed because they hiked all 80+ miles. Anybody can ride a bike for 80 miles . . .
    HA HA, you're right actually. The computer also doesn't show that we finished late at night after everybody else already went home. Ended up with a mid pack finish though since we went for that 5th cp and so many teams took the 276 bailout penalty.

    We weren't the last team in that year in that year, though, and there's a good story behind that red lantern award...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown
    I think he's serious!
    or bluffing... you just never know with a madman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Starting from Blk Mtn trailhead
    Blk Mtn => Turkey Pen => Bradley Creek => 5015
    => Laurel Mtn => Connector => Pilot => Pilot/Slate
    => Pilot Cove Loop => 1206 => 476 => S. Mills => Buckhorn


    1 Cp.


    you are a baaaaddd man
    disclaimer: i (NO LONGER) live with my mom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcd
    you are a baaaaddd man
    No.... I just give the people what they want.....

    This year it's back to the roots (to steal a phrase from another pisgah race rip). Lookin' for a 50% finish rate max. 50-70 miles for 4 CPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    No.... I just give the people what they want.....

    This year it's back to the roots (to steal a phrase from another pisgah race rip). Lookin' for a 50% finish rate max. 50-70 miles for 4 CPs.
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    Will they poop in the burritos again this year?

    (just a little screw-the-WNC-race-promoter-humor there )

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    Will they poop in the burritos again this year?
    Yes but this year you have to eat it before you can open the passport.
    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Lookin' for a 50% finish rate max.
    Hell yeah.
    Yeah, it's strange. But oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    Will they poop in the burritos again this year?

    (just a little screw-the-WNC-race-promoter-humor there )
    SHHHHH! I wasn't going to advertise the poop burritos! 'Cause, you know, I don't want anyone to copy me.

    The beer will be provided by Pisgah Brewing, the poo-rritos (J/K) by Lucky Otter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    The beer will be provided by Pisgah Brewing
    Sweet!!! I just hope there is some left when I finally get back to the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatman
    Sweet!!! I just hope there is some left when I finally get back to the start.
    I'm taking matters into my own hands by bringing reinforcements...


    The evil genius and his planned 70 miles for 4CPs won't keep me from a beer or three at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridn29s
    I'm taking matters into my own hands by bringing reinforcements...


    The evil genius and his planned 70 miles for 4CPs won't keep me from a beer or three at the end.
    man, that is what I was looking for! I picked up one when I was down there last month but it did not have that cool logo on it. I guess I will make a trip back to Poppy's just in case.
    I might have to take back my deposit for a new one or two....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatman
    man, that is what I was looking for! I picked up one when I was down there last month but it did not have that cool logo on it. I guess I will make a trip back to Poppy's just in case. I might have to take back my deposit for a new one or two....
    Just take your empty (empties) down to Strykes Again bowling alley (other side of Brevard towards Rosman) and you can get your jug refilled straight from the tap A dollar or two cheaper than Poppy's and fresh from the keg. You need to have a cap though....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatman
    Sweet!!! I just hope there is some left when I finally get back to the start.

    I'm pretty sure there's going to be some effort/ re-direction for ensuring that mostly only racers and volunteers help themselves to the good beer. And there should be...spectators/ hanger-outers should drink the cheap stuff if provided or bring their own. I admit, this is a sore point for me...

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    My wife and I are spending that whole week riding in Pisgah, we have never been on a couple of those trails and would love to join your ride if possible?

    And do not worry, dont ask if she can keep up- the question is can we keep up with her
    IF IT HAS TWO WHEELS AND A HANDLEBAR...I,M IN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMSPECIALIZED
    My wife and I are spending that whole week riding in Pisgah, we have never been on a couple of those trails and would love to join your ride if possible?

    And do not worry, dont ask if she can keep up- the question is can we keep up with her
    Come along! BTW - there are plenty of speedy women riding in Pisgah, I don't ever question their speed.
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    Cool, thanks and see you there!!
    IF IT HAS TWO WHEELS AND A HANDLEBAR...I,M IN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMSPECIALIZED
    My wife and I are spending that whole week riding in Pisgah, we have never been on a couple of those trails and would love to join your ride if possible?

    And do not worry, dont ask if she can keep up- the question is can we keep up with her
    Hey there, just a FYI, the race is Sold-Out. The forest and all the trails will be open for use but.... Please don't park at the start/finish..... or try to sign up for the race day of.....

    I bet you'll cross paths with racers while you're out though, feel free to tag along with anyone that OKs your company!
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    Can they join in on one of The Special Tests for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    I bet you'll cross paths with racers while you're out though, feel free to tag along with anyone that OKs your company!
    They're welcome to ride along with us.
    But they should bring earplugs.
    My language gets quite colorful after about 5 hours.
    I tend to say vile things about the promoter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoenth
    They're welcome to ride along with us.
    But they should bring earplugs.
    My language gets quite colorful after about 5 hours.
    I tend to say vile things about the promoter.




    actually that was a typo should read "Beer is the Only Way!"

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    Brado - You hit the nail on the head!!!!!!!!
    Seeing those signs last year during the hike-a-bike up Black Mountain was just downright evilness!


    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    You reminded me of a sign hung across the French Broad before a technical section: "You're really going to wish you stopped at that last rest station".

    Since I'll be river-festing in Hot Springs again, I will go to a quiet place and do my annual gin & tonic toast to the poor soul's rambling around in the woods.



    Edit: Hey, wait a second - what was this thread about again? Oh yeah - some 29'r guy was planning a ride. Typical MTBr high jacking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike
    Sounds like more fun than sex. Lasts longer, anyway. Too bad I have to work. Even if I didn't have to work, I would make up some work to avoid pushing my bike up Turkey Pen again this century!
    mountain biking is at least 10X more important than sex.
    My one says BRAP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Starting from Blk Mtn trailhead
    Blk Mtn => Turkey Pen => Bradley Creek => 5015
    => Laurel Mtn => Connector => Pilot => Pilot/Slate
    => Pilot Cove Loop => 1206 => 476 => S. Mills => Buckhorn


    1 Cp.

    sweet, so a great goal for me and Mike B would be ZERO cps.
    My one says BRAP!

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    PMBAR training....

    Mike Brown Kkjellquist and I got in a good pmbar style ride yesterday. The pace started fast and came to a dead stop when Kris blew out half the spokes in his rear wheel. Mike and I continued on at a not conservative/not fast pace. Somewhere around Bradley Creek I was feeling cooked and the pace slowed to a crawl. Up and over Slate/Pilot was miserable for me but Mike kept a smile on all day, despite my desire to curl up and cry for Mommy. We ran into pmbar racers Kip and Paul on Pilot and took 1206 to 276. FYI everybody, Club Gap trail has been rerouted and is only accessible from 477 now. I called it, I was done, so we dropped 477 to 276 and took the pavement back to Mike's car. Oh, if you take this route as a big ole hint, you're mistaken. PMBAR09 is going to be MUCH harder than this route





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    How did he do that to his wheel? day-um, did MB ram him again?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by plume
    How did he do that to his wheel? day-um, did MB ram him again?!


    No no no..... A locust stick took him out, not MB....
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    New question here. No details?

    Ok one speed pie its 7:20 and you haven't posted yet. Yesterday me and Yetiman did 41 miles in 6 hours moving time, Rice pinnacle to Ranger station. This means you should be at home full of moonpies and planning another ride.Lets here it.

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    Ouch! That's my report. First ride missed due to injury in a year....

    Details involve needles in my butt I won't go further than that - pulled my glute on Saturday while body surfing with my son... The acupuncturist recommended not to do a 40+ mile bike ride today or risk not being able to do a 50+ one in 10 days. Looks like my tapering plan is to just stop riding cold-turkey for a week. It will be fine. I just. need. more. pie.
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    Route Details pleez

    Quote Originally Posted by motobutane
    Ok one speed pie its 7:20 and you haven't posted yet. Yesterday me and Yetiman did 41 miles in 6 hours moving time, Rice pinnacle to Ranger station. This means you should be at home full of moonpies and planning another ride.Lets here it.
    Route Details please...

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    Eric,

    I don't know Club Gap area well enough to know what you mean when you said that Club Gap had been re-rerouted and is now only accessible from 477? Could you clarify for someone who hasn't been to Pisgah since March of 08?

    I will be there for PMBAR hopefully - couldn't find a teammate but going to put in an epic ride that day.

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    formerly, you could pick up Club Gap trail through a campground near the Pink Beds, but now, just ride up 477 (White Pines Rd.) and look for the trail on the left. It turns into Avery Creek when it crosses Black mtn.

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    ... and if we just ... Sumumlikthis

    Quote Originally Posted by NC_dirtsurfer
    Route Details please...
    We went through bent creek on a couple of trails to the parkway then down traceridge to yellow gap trail to 1206 then up laurel mtn down pilot rock then turn right on 1206 to left on 476 and up s.mills river to buckhorn, then down clawhammer to maxwell cove and finally down blk.mtn.Very little hike a bike and mainly single track.

    This Sunday 4/26 is gonna be just as good
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    Moto - what do you have cooked up for this Sunday? I have recovered from the last whooping you guys put on me and need another one. No PMBAR for me, but I did sign up for Mt. Mitchell (road version) and am getting tired of pavement already.

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    Thanks litespeedchick

    Litespeedchick,

    Thanks for the clarification regarding Club Gap.

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    Big Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike
    Moto - what do you have cooked up for this Sunday? I have recovered from the last whooping you guys put on me and need another one. No PMBAR for me, but I did sign up for Mt. Mitchell (road version) and am getting tired of pavement already.
    I liked that 3-stooges jersey you had We are camping up near " John's rock" Saturday night and trying to get lost in the woods Sunday.It would be an extra 2 hour drive for ya though.But I can give directions and we can meet up!

    Road Bike???? Thats those skinny tires right?

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    Thanks Moto. I have to be back in Sparkle City by 7, so I think I will shoot for a big ride Saturday instead.

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