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    Pisgah Trail Conditions

    I was out in Turkey Pen this morning and it looks like last night's storms put a lot of tree crowns and branches on the ground. Nothing like what we see in the winter but there are still a lot of scattered branches and trees down. I cleared what I could by hand on Squirrel from Cantrell to Bradley but there are a few trees that will need a saw. Bradley Creek is impassable just before the Eastern intersection with Riverside. A very large tree is down and the only way around it is to wade up the river. The worst of it seemed to be down low by the creeks and rivers.

    Anyone riding this weekend feel free to help out and play pick up sticks!

    In other news there was quite a bit of water in the river! During one of the waist deep crossings I was a little worried about losing my bike
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    The storm that came through yesterday afternoon was very intense. I was at Sycamore Cycles at about 5:45pm, the sky got scary dark, and for about 5 minutes, all that was falling from the sky was chunks of ice up to a half inch across. Then came the rain and a very intense wind.

    At about 5:15pm Art and Wes had gone up 276 for a road ride. Needless to say, they got front row seats to this event. They made it as far as Sliding Rock before turning back.

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    I was out on Cove Creek this morning and there is a small log-over that could be gotten with a handsaw and a very large one that would be best cleared with a chainsaw. They're about 1/4 of the way up from the campground. Both are passable, although the large one requires an over the head bike lift. Otherwise the trail was in great shape except for at the top where there are usually mud puddles. The old familiar ones are same as always but there's a new one at the bottom end of the little rock armored section that's over the hubs deep.
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    Instead of starting a new post I thought I'd piggyback on this one. Haven't been to Pisgah since the summer and will be spending a few days up in the hills.
    I'm taking my nephews, pisgah virgins other than bent creek, with me tomorrow and thought Laurel Mountain out n back would be a good ride. I don't think they could handle going down Pilot. Anybody ridden Laurel recently and got any updates on conditions? If nothing else we can park at the hatchery and ride the trails in that area.
    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackMoth View Post
    Instead of starting a new post I thought I'd piggyback on this one. Haven't been to Pisgah since the summer and will be spending a few days up in the hills.
    I'm taking my nephews, pisgah virgins other than bent creek, with me tomorrow and thought Laurel Mountain out n back would be a good ride. I don't think they could handle going down Pilot. Anybody ridden Laurel recently and got any updates on conditions? If nothing else we can park at the hatchery and ride the trails in that area.
    Thanks in advance!
    DANG. I started reading this thread and got all worried, all over again ... and then I saw the dates. Whew!

    Laurel is in GREAT shape. I've been on it each of the last couple of weekends, no problems at all. We did get some wind and rain this week, but nothing like back in June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossboy View Post
    DANG. I started reading this thread and got all worried, all over again ... and then I saw the dates. Whew!

    Laurel is in GREAT shape. I've been on it each of the last couple of weekends, no problems at all. We did get some wind and rain this week, but nothing like back in June.
    Thanks Crossboy! Sounds like we'll be hittin' up some of the goodness o' Pisgah.

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    2 trees are down on Laurel, as of last Sun 11-12-11, with one causing tread damage. approx 12 and 18". I didn't pay attention to how far in they are. Maybe someone else knows.

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    Conditions are very leafy. Would someone please go out with a leaf blower and clear all the trails so I can see the giant rocks before I hit them.

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    Blasted down Trace and couple of other trails in MIlls Creek area. I think I went down Trace faster than I did a month ago. I couldn't see any rocks, so I didn't have to worry about dodging them. all of that area is good

    Met some Nice Horse people @ Fletcher (2), Probably some of the best mannered Horses and riders I 've ever met. It was pleasant expirience.
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    Riding from the Hatchery is golden -- a bit muddy on Butter in the usual spots, but SWANK mulched down a lot of the leaves so the lines on Davidson, Cove Creek and Daniel are nicely bedded in. Cemetery Loop has a few trees down, but all in all it's a great time to be in Pisgah!

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    Bottom of Sycamore has multiple trees across the trail just in from 276. They're together as a bunch but big ones, in need of a chainsaw.
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    Update 1/11/12:

    Lots of rain recently and freeze/thaw has many trails very soft. I'm not going to tell anyone they can't or shouldn't ride but it is in the best interest of the trails and your equipment to pick your routes carefully. Much of the North slopes in Bent Creek are very sloppy. All the new machine work in Pisgah on Fletcher Creek and Squirrel Gap is very wet and delicate as well. I'd assume most of Dupont should be avoided.

    Best bet are the higher ridge trails. I rode over the top of Black Mtn. in the rain on Monday and it wasn't bad (other than the severe erosion caused by lack of maintenance and riders cutting waterbars).
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Update 1/11/12:

    Lots of rain recently and freeze/thaw has many trails very soft. I'm not going to tell anyone they can't or shouldn't ride but it is in the best interest of the trails and your equipment to pick your routes carefully. Much of the North slopes in Bent Creek are very sloppy. All the new machine work in Pisgah on Fletcher Creek and Squirrel Gap is very wet and delicate as well. I'd assume most of Dupont should be avoided.

    Best bet are the higher ridge trails. I rode over the top of Black Mtn. in the rain on Monday and it wasn't bad (other than the severe erosion caused by lack of maintenance and riders cutting waterbars).
    Nice bump and thanks for the heads up. In case y'all haven't heard, we're expecting 2" more of rain today (Wednesday 1/11/12), with 3-4" predicted for the eastern slopes -- which could mean Brevard and Mills River may be washed into the French Broad. Batten down the hatches boys, this is going to get rough!

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    Do you guys think that some trails will be dry enough to ride by saturday. If so which ones would you stick to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbolsvt View Post
    Do you guys think that some trails will be dry enough to ride by saturday. If so which ones would you stick to?
    Laurel > Pilot, Black, Turkey Pen Gap, Trace Ridge (gonna get logged anyway)....

    The freeze/thaw is what is really bad right now. Try and ride while the ground is still frozen.

    Of course, I'm likely gonna ride today though . If I do I'll report back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Laurel > Pilot, Black, Turkey Pen Gap, Trace Ridge (gonna get logged anyway)....

    The freeze/thaw is what is really bad right now. Try and ride while the ground is still frozen.

    Of course, I'm likely gonna ride today though . If I do I'll report back.
    If you could let me know that would be great!

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    276 > Clawhammer > Maxwell Cove > Black > Thrift

    today in the rain and Maxwell Cove was the wettest. the tread on Black was solid but I opted for Thrift at the bottom instead of what was sure to turn into a slop fest.
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    I'm trying to think how to stay slop-free on Saturday (assuming the ground unfreezes at all). If you went up 229 towards Farlow Gap, then took 140A, 5031,140,140A,5003 back to Glouchester, is that route clear and how does it drain? I almost never go over that way, so I don't know what to expect...but it seems like it's "high". Are the roads marked at the gates? how lost could I get?

    Advice appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedchick View Post
    I'm trying to think how to stay slop-free on Saturday (assuming the ground unfreezes at all). If you went up 229 towards Farlow Gap, then took 140A, 5031,140,140A,5003 back to Glouchester, is that route clear and how does it drain? I almost never go over that way, so I don't know what to expect...but it seems like it's "high". Are the roads marked at the gates? how lost could I get?

    Advice appreciated.
    Yes, probably decent since it's roadbed though 140A might be a bit muddy, no and very.

    Good luck.

    That's old Pisgah back there. If you drop down from Farlow, look for the ribbons in the trees marking the roads and make sure you have a map. And everything is farther than you think it is. Except when it's not and you missed a turn.

    Good news is, this time of year you can sort-of align yourself with the backside of Pilot Mtn. and its corresponding gaps. If you know which ones they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossboy View Post
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    Woo - hoo! My first sticky! Now I just need to get a mod to tell me how to edit the first post and I'll keep it updated up there.

    Freeze/thaw is likely going to be in full effect this weekend. Best bet is to ride early when the ground is still frozen. I'm heading out now
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Woo - hoo! My first sticky! Now I just need to get a mod to tell me how to edit the first post and I'll keep it updated up there.

    Freeze/thaw is likely going to be in full effect this weekend. Best bet is to ride early when the ground is still frozen. I'm heading out now
    I am in route to the trails! Which trails you riding today?

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    Did my first ever ride of Squirrel Gap (now I see why it's such a favorite!) out and back. Trail was mostly frozen at 1pm, but it did soften up a bit as the afternoon got warmer. We walked a few sections where work has been done recently and were slick, so as not to trash them. Looks like they'll refreeze again tonight and with sun and 40 degree high for Sunday, I agree with Driftwood... better to get out early.
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    Good idea. A sticky with some meaning. I do think that in order to keep things current and uncluttered the content should remain pertinent to the title, ie. trail conditions and not ride reports. So, Hardtimes connector and Powerline should be avoided at all costs. An absolute slop fest.

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    From the Hatchery, 475C is a blast, Davidson River is in pretty good shape, and Butter and Daniel were solid on Saturday -- though the approach up 471D was pretty soft, and the seep on Butter was a solid sheet of ice. Shee-t!

    There's snow above about 3500ft, which made yesterday's descent of Farlow pretty ... um ... interesting -- actually, it was quite fun, since the ground below was frozen (where there wasn't water), so I was just bike-skiing down ...

    The lower sections were in good shape, just slightly soft. There are a couple of trees down that need a sawyer, and watch out for sticks -- blew apart a rear derailleur pulley wheel and hanger yesterday.

    The west side of Daniel Ridge (the rocky side) was just fine.

    We're expecting more rain this week, and warming temps ... could get nasty by the weekend ... or could be awesome ...

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    Mods: How bout some similar stickies for other areas?

    dupont, bent creek, kitsuma, etc? they seem to get the most questions. it would help the out of towners as well when asking where to ride after a rain.

    another sticky option would be "where to ride"....we seem to get many "i'll be in wnc from x through x, where can i go?" threads.

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    More rain last night and still unseasonably warm temperatures mean lots of wet trails.

    I would stick to ridge line trails and avoid north slopes. Pisgah dries fast so don't let a little rain scare you away from riding.

    Due to brand new machine cut tread Fletcher Creek and either end of Squirrel Gap should be avoided. Powerline and Hardtimes Connector in Bent Creek should also be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Powerline and Hardtimes Connector in Bent Creek should also be avoided.
    Same with the lower part of Lower Sidehill (between Boyd Branch and Laurel Branch Rd.), and Pine Tree where trail work was recently done.
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    Current trail conditions are why I own a road bike.

    That is all.

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    I plan on making another trip this weekend! It looks like its going to rain down there this friday! With the warm weather and no freezing do you think they will be ok Saturday Morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbolsvt View Post
    I plan on making another trip this weekend! It looks like its going to rain down there this friday! With the warm weather and no freezing do you think they will be ok Saturday Morning?
    Define 'ok'.

    It is very wet here. I ran Black on Saturday and even it was wet. My shoes were sliding all over the place and I felt bad about running it.

    That being said should not discourage you from coming here and riding. Just pick your trails carefully: stick to the ridges or the Trace Ridge area which is about to be logged into oblivion and have fun! I would avoid Bent Creek and Dupont at all cost (out of respect to the trails).

    Pisgah is a temperate rain forest. I'm gonna ride tomorrow - mostly gravel - but I'm still gonna ride
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    logging?

    hey drift-
    whats up with the logging? i hadn'tseen anything about that. is trace going to be closed? any details are appreciated. damn it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hosercom View Post
    hey drift-
    whats up with the logging? i hadn'tseen anything about that. is trace going to be closed? any details are appreciated. damn it!

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    I really don't know about the logging. I was just being bitter

    To keep the thread topical I'll report that as of 1-25 I rode Maxwell > Black > Thrift Cove and it was all fine. A little soft but not bad at all. Another inch or two of rain tonight though. So, for anyone wondering if it is worth the drive this weekend I would say:

    I would stick to ridge line trails and avoid north slopes. Pisgah dries fast so don't let a little rain scare you away from riding.

    Due to brand new machine cut tread Fletcher Creek and either end of Squirrel Gap should be avoided. Powerline and Hardtimes Connector and lower part of Lower Sidehill (between Boyd Branch and Laurel Branch Rd.), and Pine Tree where trail work was recently done in Bent Creek should also be avoided.
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    So how much rain fell in PNF yesterday/last night? Planning to hit Laurel/Pilot/Squirrel/Slate Rock tomorrow 11'ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnmtnbkr View Post
    So how much rain fell in PNF yesterday/last night? Planning to hit Laurel/Pilot/Squirrel/Slate Rock tomorrow 11'ish.
    1"+ of rain. I would stay away from both ends of squirrel.... Stick between Horse Cove and Laurel Creek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmansp View Post
    1"+ of rain. I would stay away from both ends of squirrel.... Stick between Horse Cove and Laurel Creek.
    +1 on that. You should be fine Laurel > Pilot > Horse Cove > Squirrel. I'll be out there Sunday probably.

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    Trace

    Trace was in great shape today- just a touch mushy in the ruts that are right after the 90 degree left about 25% of the way down. On a sadder note, I lost my glasses, see posting below.
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    Trail conditions couldn't have been better yesterday w/ the exception of Laurel Creek. It was literally a creek from Squirrel to Bradley. Otherwise, couldn't have asked for a better day in Jan. w/ short sleeves and sunshine.
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    Hi all,
    looking for a little guidance for my first visit to the heralded, golden lands of Pisgah next week....
    From business trip to Nashville TN, I'm then driving towards Asheville NC for a couple days R&R (aka gorging myself on singletrack ) What can I expect for trail conditions, and seasonal weather conditions?
    Should I come prepared for lots of mud?

    Also -- what trails are not to be missed for someone with only two or three days in Pisgah?!? (I dig both flowy singletrack and technical rocky stuff, basically love it all -- climbing included -- though I don't be needing any drops over 2-3 feet to get my fat-tire satisfactified-groove on ).

    I don't know if there's a better thread to post this in, please advise if so! Thanks!!!

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    Trails are good to go with the same notable exceptions as mentioned above.

    There are plenty of threads with trail suggestions but with only two or three days I would try to hit Laurel > Pilot, Black Mtn., Bennett Gap....
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    How is Dupont?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbolsvt View Post
    How is Dupont?
    Good to go. Look out for closings around Guion Farm. Be gentle if you ride Wilkie (near cornmill shoals access), it's rideable, but still a little loose from the work this past weekend.

    Also, we're expecting rain this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbolsvt View Post
    How is Dupont?
    Was out for almost 3 hrs last night...it's fine. The closures around Guion are a non issue...just access Ridgeline via Hooker Creek...I like that route better anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Trails are good to go with the same notable exceptions as mentioned above.

    There are plenty of threads with trail suggestions but with only two or three days I would try to hit Laurel > Pilot, Black Mtn., Bennett Gap....
    Thanks for the suggestions driftwood! I'll be hoping to stay high n dry, trying out some good stuff. as I mentioned in a couple other threads, please let me know if there are any other group rides this thursday friday saturday, or if anyones up for joining me anywhere in western north carolina or eastern tennessee- have car - am (usually ;-) a skilled rider in good shape - here to visit friends and RYDE!

    Cheers!

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    With temperatures once again dropping below freezing the freeze/thaw cycle is in full effect once again so try and ride when the ground is still frozen...

    I was up on Laurel Mtn. this morning and other than minor accumulation of snow above 4000' the trail was good to go!

    Winter is on, get it while you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    With temperatures once again dropping below freezing the freeze/thaw cycle is in full effect once again so try and ride when the ground is still frozen...

    I was up on Laurel Mtn. this morning and other than minor accumulation of snow above 4000' the trail was good to go!

    Winter is on, get it while you can
    hi driftwood. there are 5 of us coming from illinois april 21 weekend. i hear the trails are so steep the we don't have to worry about the rain. can you shed some light on this? thanks!
    i've also been reading your blog from your link here on mtbr.com.
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    Everytime I bring my bike to work with me for the week (I live in Columbus Ohio but work in Cincinnati Ohio) to head down to Pisgah for the weekend they change the weather from sunny to rain

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcaronongan View Post
    hi driftwood. there are 5 of us coming from illinois april 21 weekend. i hear the trails are so steep the we don't have to worry about the rain. can you shed some light on this? thanks!
    i've also been reading your blog from your link here on mtbr.com.
    Pisgah is a temperate rain forest and as such rain can be the norm. Many of the trails are very steep and do drain extremal well, some of the trails (especially in Bent Creek and Dupont) do not drain as well and can remain wet after rain.

    I would not worry about rain. Come on down and be prepared to ride, rain or shine
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcaronongan View Post
    hi driftwood. there are 5 of us coming from illinois april 21 weekend. i hear the trails are so steep the we don't have to worry about the rain. can you shed some light on this? thanks!
    i've also been reading your blog from your link here on mtbr.com.
    That's not true. SOME trails drain well, others can seep and stay wet for a week after a good soaking rain.

    You can't plan your vacation around a weather forecast, so the thing to do (rain or shine, really) is to stop in at one or both of the LBS in Brevard, buy a map, and ask them to sit down with you and draw up a few loops. Only folks who ride the trails a lot are going to know what is going to be good to go after weather moves through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcaronongan View Post
    hi driftwood. there are 5 of us coming from illinois april 21 weekend. i hear the trails are so steep the we don't have to worry about the rain. can you shed some light on this? thanks!
    i've also been reading your blog from your link here on mtbr.com.
    Tee-hee. It's probably too soon for me to gloat about this (it's only been 2 years since I moved here), but beating up on Flatlanders is sort of a hobby 'round here.

    Seriously: Don't sweat it. Like as not, you'll be able to ride something -- this isn't Palos, thank FSM. Worst-case scenario, you ride gravel -- even then, you'll have an awesome time, since the terrain here is unlike anything you'll find within 200 miles of Chicago. Maybe even twice that distance.

    Or "worst" worst-case, you hang out at the Hub and join the drinking club.

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    How the trails currently? Considering coming up tomorrow... probably ride stuff around Squirrel and surrounding areas. Snow on the ground? Doesn't look like you got that much rain today. True?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lono View Post
    How the trails currently? Considering coming up tomorrow... probably ride stuff around Squirrel and surrounding areas. Snow on the ground? Doesn't look like you got that much rain today. True?
    Bent Creek was in good shape last night. Very little rain today so as of right now today they are great!
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    Big tree down on Long Branch, couple hundred yards down from the Cemetery Loop.

    Gonna need a bigger saw than what I carry.

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    Pisgah is damp.
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    can somebody translate for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnMan1 View Post
    can somebody translate for me?
    Translation: "I can't do what I want in the forums until I get my post count up, so instead of posting something at least a little bit readable, let alone adding something to useful to the topic at hand, my solution is to post obscure and indecipherable replies to random forum threads."

    Disclaimer: My translating skills might totally suck and I'm way off base.

    Back onto the subject of trail conditions, but not in the slightest bit useful... How hot does it have to get in March before rock melts and the tree roots spontaneously burst into flame? This weather is crazy! (But I'll take it)
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    Turkeypen report 3/21:

    Vineyard: Perfect. Very leafy still, needs traffic. Go ride it!
    Riverside: Muddy as expected. Typical mudholes.
    S. Mills: Muddy as usual but looked well-used and clear of trees.
    Cantrell: Nicer than usual. Thanks for the chainsaw work.
    Squirrel gap: Perfect. Dry and free of leaves and trees.
    Mullinax: thanks for the drainage work.

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    Lots of recent rain but the trees are leafing out and the trails are in decent/fair/good shape.

    I'm calling Pisgah good to go
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    I'm old - please don't tell me, I forget - but understood that post. Then again, only a few truly understand me. (The OP gave thanks.)

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    Squirrel is in great shape this week.

    The briars seem to be doing well too if you were to
    fall off the mountain at just the right spot.

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    Any thoughts on the Pishag area trails for this weekend? Looked like a lot of rain happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockpot2001 View Post
    Any thoughts on the Pishag area trails for this weekend? Looked like a lot of rain happened.
    Lots of recent rain but the trees are leafing out and the trails are in decent/fair/good shape.

    I'm calling Pisgah good to go
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    HI!
    Will be heading up this way from Florida this July. Im currently riding a single speed 9er, ridgid bike.

    Bad idea? or Not? Never rode up there before. So just curious if I would be miserble and miss out on a lot of great riding due to lack of suspension and multiple gears....

    Thanks!

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    People do it all the time. You'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Pisgah is as good as it gets
    Good to go?

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    Rode the Pisgah 111 this weekend. The course has a LOT of creek, stream, and poop puddle crossings but it's still magnificent. 99% incredible *****eness.

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    Rain is a good thing

    The dust might be gone for a day or two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by park baker View Post
    Surprisingly, I wikied pantomime myself before I used it just to be sure it was the exact word I wanted and it was

    Bob Dylan Up to Me





    In other, more relevant news, it stopped raining early yesterday and Pisgah should already be passable.... The more sustainable trails in Dupont and Bent Creek probably need a day or two to dry out....

    Rain is a good thing

    The dust might be gone for a day or two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockpot2001 View Post
    Rode the Pisgah 111 this weekend. The course has a LOT of creek, stream, and poop puddle crossings but it's still magnificent. 99% incredible *****eness.

    So how deep is Bradley?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike View Post
    So how deep is Bradley?
    Deepest thing I crossed was about sack high. I'm 6'5" and the anxiety over the cold water improved my clearance.


    ~34"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockpot2001 View Post
    Deepest thing I crossed was about sack high. I'm 6'5" and the anxiety over the cold water improved my clearance.


    ~34"
    I'm rocking ~32" and I can tell you straight up that anyone who says that an extra two inches don't make a difference is a liar.
    Yeah, it's strange. But oh well.

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    Bent creek is wet in spots after tonight rain and the rain from a few days ago.
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    Bent Creek area saw some big water this afternoon.
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    I rode Pisgah yesterday and the recent storms have put some trees on the ground so it is a good time to throw your saws in your packs before heading out!

    It was damp in a few spots but even Avery Creek trail was mostly dry so I'm still calling it good to ride
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    Bent Creek is good to go.
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    It seems as if nobody uses this thread anymore but I figured I might revive it since there has been quite a bit of rain in the last week or so.

    I went out and road Black Mtn today and I must say it was all dry. The only place you could tell it had even been raining was Clawhammer Road, the trail itself was completely dry. So folks, don't be afraid to go hit up some Pisgah!

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    Yep, Pisgah is still all good. Come on over and ride!
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    sounds like good place to escape to from flooded Jaw-juh.

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    Or maybe not. It's fairly wet at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    Or maybe not. It's fairly wet at the moment.
    Not anymore . I can't speak for Dupont or Bent Creek but I just came down from Mt. Pisgah and the trails were fine. One of the many great things about the PRD is how quickly the trails drain and dry - good thing as it is a temperate rain forest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    Not anymore . I can't speak for Dupont or Bent Creek but I just came down from Mt. Pisgah and the trails were fine. One of the many great things about the PRD is how quickly the trails drain and dry - good thing as it is a temperate rain forest!
    Good news. Then Pisgsh is good to go!

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    That 10" fallen red oak on lower Black is somewhat out of the way. How do I know it's 10inches? Cuz my saw was only eight.

    I dragged one end as far as I could to allow some passage. Cutting out a section would have been best but did I mention the 8" saw.

    Thanks to the person that had previously cut partially through and quit, it gave me inspiration.



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    I rode Squirrel on Saturday and it is seriously overgrown with briers and other crap on both sides that conspired to scratch me up pretty bad. I will try to remember to take a set of hand clippers with me next time I hit that trail.
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    Vineyard gap is good. Bradley and Riverside are typical...Laurel creek is mostly good other than the standard wet spots. Squirrel is overgrown in places. One big tree down on Mullinax.

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    The trails are wet..
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    Shhh... That's really not what I want to hear. I've been out of town with no bike riding for almost a month and what does it do the day I get back? Rain like crazy! It's killing my soul.

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    It has been two days since the Pisgah area has received substantial rainfall and based on what I have seen on the trails since then I'd say Pisgah is drying fast. Bent Creek and Dupont likely need more time to drain before they see heavy bike traffic but anyone looking to ride in Pisgah proper doesn't need to let last week's rain scare them away.
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    I rode Trace Ridge (N Mills River) day before yesterday and it was surprisingly dry, not even a little muddy. I rode Dupont (Cedar Rock -> Burnt Mtn) the day before that and it was still pretty wet in a lot of places. Those two trails tend to drain pretty well though, the rest of Dupont is probably in not such good condition.
    I will try and make it out to Pisgah tomorrow to see how things are, I would imagine things are pretty dry by now.

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    which trails have the best rhythm out there in the pisgah forest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanlawsons View Post
    which trails have the best rhythm out there in the pisgah forest?
    That depends on the beat of your drum.
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    Pinks Beds status?

    Is Pink Beds rideable from 276 to 476? Never been on it and wanted to try it out this weekend.

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    I'm not sure what 476 is, but I rode Pink Beds trail from 276 to Buckhorn Gap to Clawhammer Rd last Sat and it was fine. Buckhorn Gap continues to be wet and sloppy for no apparent reason near the river, even though the rest of the trail was dry.

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    update anyone?

    Anyone ridden black mountain, butter gap, or farlow gap recently. If conditions arent too nasty, my buddies and I are tryin to go next weekend

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    Why would they be too nasty?

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    I've been told that around this time of year a lot of the trails become unridable due to downed trees and stuff from rain/snow. Is that correct?

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    Lies.

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    Haha well alright then, that's what I like to hear

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    Sometimes this time of the year can make for less than ideal riding due to freeze/thaw cycles as well as blow down from winter storms, not to mention snow and ice on the trails themselves. We've had a few winters recently where riding a bicycle in Pisgah was very challenging if not impossible.

    This year has not been like that. It has been very mild and the trails are fine*. Nothing much to speak of at all. Come ride and have fun!



    (* a lot of trails in the PRD are in dire need of maintenance so 'fine' is a relative term. What I mean is there is nothing out of the ordinary.)
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    Awesome, thanks for the tip, and yes we will come and ride!

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    Butter gap and Cat Gap are pretty sloppy, but they usually are. Nothing really out of the ordinary there. Daniel Ridge is good to go. The gravel roads around the hatchery are smooth and hardpacked right now which is really nice too.

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    I am heading to Asheville around the 28th through the 31st. How are the trails there now? Any must hit trail suggestions are also welcomed. Looking for a few 20-30 mile ride, climbing and moderate technical aren't an issue. I am from CO heading to the mid west for the holidays. I think, I'll need a side trip to get away from the family for a few days and have been reading about your area for years.
    Thanks for your reply's!

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    The trails right now are damp/wet. It is still too far out to say how they will be on the 28th. Unless the weather changes drastically (which it very well could) the trails should be fine for when you are here.

    Must hit trail suggestion: Laurel Mountain to Pilot Rock

    Search the forum for tons of trail suggestions and then stop at a local bike store when you get here, buy a map and some other stuff and get more recommendations from the shop employees.
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    I'll be in Pisgah this weekend. The forecast is rain on Friday night. Riding on Saturday is iffy, but we are riding somewhere on Sunday. Our preferred ride is Pink Beds/ S. Mills/ Squirrel ending at Turkey Pen. Is this a bad idea? If so, what would you recommend? Driving to DuPont is okay.
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    Bent Creek Trails Report 12/31/2012: Trails are in pretty bad shape. I would advise staying off at least the following: Hardtimes Connector, Deer Lake Lodge (Powerline in particular is a sloppy mess), Homestead/Small Creek, Lower Pine Tree.

    In other words... just about everywhere the most people go. :-(

    I did not ride all these, evaluated some based on trailhead conditions and prior experience. I am assuming that Wolf Branch and Ledford are just as bad. Higher up/further out the trails are in better shape but still marginal. Explorer Loop was pretty good except for the usual spots between Pine Tree Connector and Sleepy Gap.

    More rain is forecast New Year's Day/Night. Hopefully the warm, dry spell in the 10 day forecast will happen and dry things out a bit.
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    Yep, we have entered a more traditional winter weather pattern with plenty of moisture on the ground and the freeze/thaw cycle in full effect. I'd say the trails are in poor shape at this time. I cut my run short yesterday because it was so muddy and slippery.

    If you ride when the ground is still frozen it is all good but once it thaws it gets rather soft and muddy. Pick your time and trails carefully and it is all fairly good.

    Also, recent high winds have left isolated pockets of deadfall on the trails. Do your part and help clear the trails when you encounter debris
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    Here's a good wet weather route we did last weekend:

    Fish Hatchery>475B>Seinard Ridge (the double track, not the illegal singletrack to the parkway)>gravel road/double track up to the connector at the top of Daniel Ridge...like in SWANK> Daniel Ridge counterclockwise>double track that goes past the waterfall ?>Daniel ridge clockwise>475A>Davidson River>Hatchery.

    It was a pretty route w/ great views of John's Rock, LookingGlass, several waterfalls, and we didn't get into muddy/delicate trail areas except a little bit on Daniel ridge going clockwise between the double track and the creek. And that part is pretty much rutted to hell anyway. The rocky part of Daniel ridge was a river, but not muddy or damaged. It's interesting how the rocky trails protect themselves.

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    OTR/HB Conditions

    Anyone ridden the OTR/Heartbreak route yet this year. Thinking about making the trek tomorrow, just curious as to the conditions?
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    I went to bent creek today before work and the trails were sloppy. I don't know if this helps.

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    bd- that will be as fine as anything you can do. OTR= a road. Heartbreak= relatively well-built ST.
    Might be snow in the tops sections, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown View Post
    bd- that will be as fine as anything you can do. OTR= a road. Heartbreak= relatively well-built ST.
    Might be snow in the tops sections, though.
    Yeah I figured so....thought some locals usually rode that on the 1st every year when it opened, so thought I'd ask. Expecting a few downed trees and such.

    I'll post conditions after the ride tomorrow. Looking forward to my Pisgah fix tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bd279 View Post
    Yeah I figured so....thought some locals usually rode that on the 1st every year when it opened, so thought I'd ask. Expecting a few downed trees and such.
    A few friends did ride OTR/Heartbreak on New Year's Day. I saw brief posts on Facebook that they survived and had a good time, but did not get details as to the trail conditions. I definitely would expect ice/snow up top, very wet/muddy down lower (especially switchbacks) and downed trees.

    In other words, sounds awesome! Have fun!
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    Cold day in the mountains, but clear blue skies and sunshine all day. Toll road as expected, except really icy in a few sections. HB is decent shape. more than the normal amount of trees down. Two on upper section. One nasty difficult tree to pass in the mid section, the rest is good but leafy.

    ps - I hate Rattlesnake trail.
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    Bent Creek-NO.. Spencer and Trace good to go today.

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    It was sloppy on my run last night. Today it is raining. It is a good time to pick your routes carefully.

    The good news is the highs are going to be in the high 60's this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftwood View Post
    It was sloppy on my run last night. Today it is raining. It is a good time to pick your routes carefully.

    The good news is the highs are going to be in the high 60's this weekend!
    Where did you run that was still sloppy? Bent Creek/N. Mills had pretty much dried out everywhere except the most chronic spots. That will have changed today already so it's a bit of a moot point. Just curious.
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    I rode Greenslick on... Tuesday and it was pretty muddy. Figured it would be okay since it had been 4 days or so with no rain. I was wrong. Rode Trace Ridge last night and it was completely dry. Probably a little different now though...

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    Ahh.. I forgot about Greenslick. I rode it on Wednesday and it was still fairly muddy. Where I said "everywhere except the most chronic spots", unfortunately chronic includes pretty much all of GL.
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    So I am assuming it is all a mess today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    So I am assuming it is all a mess today?
    Thats affirmative. I just did a morning hike in Pisgah, pretty sploogie. I'd either give it a day to drain or hit the sandy trails at Dupont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FatTireGoose View Post
    Thats affirmative. I just did a morning hike in Pisgah, pretty sploogie. I'd either give it a day to drain or hit the sandy trails at Dupont.
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    Laurel and Pilot were not too bad this morning.
    They were wet of course, but for the most part they were not sloppy.

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    North Mills River

    Bear Branch: muddy in places on the lower section. Not too bad though.

    Spencer Gap: good.

    Trace: good.

    Spencer Branch: VERY sloppy from the Never Ending Road to Fletcher Creek intersection. I would recommend not riding that section.

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    And the rains came. There is a lot of moisture in the ground right now and with freezing temperatures on the way freeze/thaw will likely be an issue this coming weekend. Ride when it is still frozen and it is all good.
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    Anybody know if Laurel Mtn/Pilot Rock will be in decent enough shape to ride Sunday or is there a better option for a similar ride?
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    I would expect there to still be snow at the top of Laurel, especially on Pilot Rock Connector.
    That said, if I'm over this cold, that's the loop I'll probably try to do myself. Nothing else gets more sun, drains better, and has more rock.

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    I rode Bear Branch and Fletcher Creek today and even though it was sunny and warm the trails were wet with the freeze/thaw effect. Laurel > Pilot would have been a better choice.
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    Any other trail reports? I'm thinking about riding North Shore/Sycamore/Black-Thrift on Monday. I'll be solo so I'll probably avoid anything backcountry unless its a fire road ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbeach View Post
    Any other trail reports? I'm thinking about riding North Shore/Sycamore/Black-Thrift on Monday. I'll be solo so I'll probably avoid anything backcountry unless its a fire road ride.
    I rode most of that today. I started at 7:30am to catch it before it thawed out. It was good but I am going to attribute that to the ground being mostly frozen. Personally, I wouldn't want to ride it later in the day.
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    I rode Maxwell Cove to Black yesterday with a bit of an out an back to to the Turkey Pen intersection. Everything but the bottom section of Black and a few places on Maxwell Cove were completely dry. I would have never guessed that it had been raining for the last week straight.

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    East TN got a nasty ice storm today. how did it affect yall?

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    Hendersonville NC got ice too which isn't too far from Pisgah and it came from that direction. So Pisgah either got snow or ice.

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    I did a nice loop in the Cedar Rock area on foot yesterday and the trails were in surprisingly good shape. Not so much as even a puddle. I was so clean when I got back to the Hub that they questioned if I had even really been out in the woods.

    The gravel was actually in worse shape than the trails and had a lot of treacherous ice on it,
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    How's Kitsuma this weekend?

    No responses so I took a chance. Still pretty messy up there. The north face of the highway cut is still completely iced over. The southern face (switchbacks from the lot up) is pretty messy and the clay about half way up completely junks everything up. Had to hike a bike as the bikes were full of junk and it's tough to walk in some areas. On the down side it's still about 75% mud and 25% snow and ice. Add in a lot of leaves and it was pretty messy. Would recommend letting it dry out for a while. There were a bunch of cars in the lot so a fair amount of people were out but the trails didn't look bad compared to something like Pine Tree near Powhatan.
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    I rode Bear Pen and Staire Creek this morning. Both were on the wet side. There was still snow up on the top of Bear Pen. There was quite a bit of down branches on both trails and we did the best to clear things up. Staire Creek was it's usually self, I have never seen that trail be dry. Parts of it were solid ice and others were just very wet. There were an unusual number of hikers on Staire Creek today as well. As far as I can recall I have never seen anybody hiking that trail and I saw 10+ people out there today.

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    I ran the Big Nasty late yesterday and where the tread was frozen the trails were great but where they weren't it was rather soft with the freeze/thaw effect. It was snowing with about a half inch on the ground around the mountain tops but nothing down by the horse stables. There are also several pockets of heavy blow down that I didn't have time to clear (didn't make it down until after dark with no lights).

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    Plan on doing the Squirrel Gap / Turkey Pen (Advanced-Epic) ride tomorrow.
    Anyone know the conditions out there?

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    Anyone been on Kitsuma lately? I'll be up in AVL next weekend, planning on hitting up Bent Creek and Kitsuma while we're there...

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    how are the trails at pisgah? get snow? We were planning on driving down from Ohio, where the trails havent been rideable since December due to freeze/thaw conditions.

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    rode greenslick and trace ridge two weekends ago, they were fast, dry, and awesome. we hit the weather lotto and got 70+ and sunshine. Rode up in Boone too, much wetter and colder up there. Of course, with all the snow in the last week, these conditions have completely changed by now...

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    Visiting Asheville tomorrow and Friday for some riding. Anyone ridden Bent Creek the last couple days? How are the trails?

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    yes, also still looking for trail conditions. is there a hotline we can call?

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    It's really a mixed bag right now. Not the best answer, but hey, it's "spring" in the mountains.

    Observations: On Saturday, I did a Pilot Cove/Pilot Rock/Laurel Mountain Inner-Outer loop. Trails were pretty good then, except for up above 4000' where there had been some more recent snowmelt on the PR Connector and Laurel Mountain down to about Sassafras Gap.

    I then made the mistake of trying to ride N. Mills on Sunday. I knew it had rained on Sat. night but didn't realize just how much rain we got. My bad. Spencer Gap wasn't too bad going from 5000 to Trace but was a sloppy mess going down to NER on the other side. I hiked down most of it trying not to tear it up (or kill myself). After that I bailed on the trails idea and took NER back to the Trace parking lot. I stayed on gravel the rest of the day.

    Since Sunday we've had cold temps and snow flurries down in the lower elevations with no accumulation, but there is snow higher up.

    Did a run in Bent Creek Tuesday evening and the trails had actually dried out pretty well.

    All evidence to the contrary with cold temps and snow, we're moving into spring and the trees are getting thirsty.
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    Seeking condition updates on Bent Creek, Trace and Butter Gap.

    Trying to figure out where to ride today.

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    Any idea if it will be swamped out tomorrow in pisgah/bent creek? We've gotten a ton of rain down here in Greenville but was hoping maybe yall got off lighter up there. Happen to have the day off and wanted to make the trip up but not if it'll be hub deep puddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus044 View Post
    Any idea if it will be swamped out tomorrow in pisgah/bent creek? We've gotten a ton of rain down here in Greenville but was hoping maybe yall got off lighter up there. Happen to have the day off and wanted to make the trip up but not if it'll be hub deep puddles.
    Been plenty of rain here too.

    Bent Creek I am sure will be muddy.
    Pisgah depends greatly on the trails. I can't suggest any but I am sure much will be muddy.

    DuPont not mentioned drains fast and much of it has good soil condition for wet riding.
    After all this rain, I would look at that but stay off Laurel, Mine, Reasonover, and maybe Airstrip. Cedar Rock and Big Rock are mostly granite so wet conditions have little effect.
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    Yeah corn mill parking lot was my fall back for a ride tomorrow. Enough sand and rock to get away with a wet ride. Thanks

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    Lake Imaging side seems to hold up well too.
    Hooker Creek will get standing water towards the Ridgeline side but it has a sandy bottom so it holds up well.

    I just don't know if I would ride across the the park since I imagine the stream crossing will be sketchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Been plenty of rain here too.

    Bent Creek I am sure will be muddy.
    Pisgah depends greatly on the trails. I can't suggest any but I am sure much will be muddy.
    Yeah, it's been raining for about 36 hours here in Bent Creek, sometimes lightening up but mostly pretty steady. A quick glance at radar will tell you all you need to know... no end in sight. This time of year, the trees and foliage will be soaking up a lot of rain in a short amount of time, but it will still be pretty wet for a while. I've been trying to convince myself to go out and do a trail/gravel run - but I just don't wanna.
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    The right thing to do is not ride anything Monday. The entire area had two straight days of steady to heavy rain.

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    NWS Statement as of 4:27 PM EDT on April 28, 2013

    "... Record daily maximum rainfall set at Asheville NC...

    A new record daily rainfall of 1.35 inches was set at the Asheville
    regional Airport today. This breaks the old record of 1.2 inches set
    in 1966."

    We got another half an inch after that notice went up. The total for the entire day was 1.85 inches.
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    The next 4 weeks looks like a lot of the same stuff according to accuweather.
    I know that can easily change but it will be a wet month. Get your riding in where you can.
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    any body been out to the trails less traveled? - Coleman Boundary or Alexander Park? Alexander was in poor shape last time I was out there but that was a couple of months ago. I wonder if the trees drinking have helped? I was thinking of making a couple of runs out at Coleman today but it's probably a creek bed. Needing to not travel south to ride MTB for a bit!
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    What, you need to stay near home for some reason?

    Just go to Coleman. Those descents are always either a wet creek bed or a dry creek bed. The only thing you're hurting is your bike.

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    I went to Alexander earlier this week and it was good other than kinda overgrown and a few muddy spots that don't get sun

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    Looking to ride next weekend. Any news on the trails after all those storms?? Blowdowns, etc. Thanks

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    Have things dried up at all?

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    To a degree, yes.

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    We are still getting rain. Although not as much, it would be hard to say what things will be like this week.
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    Headed up with a small group from Charlotte to ride Bent Creek tomorrow 7/13. We will probably stick to the standard route up to Greenslick, down back up to 5 points and down Lower Sidehill to Wolf Laurel.

    Any thoughts on conditions would be helpful.

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    Headed up with a small group from Charlotte to ride Bent Creek tomorrow 7/13. We will probably stick to the standard route up to Greenslick, down back up to 5 points and down Lower Sidehill to Wolf Laurel.

    Any thoughts on conditions would be helpful.
    My initial thought is that it's a long ride from bent creek to wolf laurel. Other than that, you're good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    My initial thought is that it's a long ride from bent creek to wolf laurel. Other than that, you're good.
    Sorry I always forget the name of the trail, Wolf Branch maybe? Once you descend Lower Sidehill turn right onto the gravel road and it veers off to the left. It starts with a log ride and rock kicker.

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    Sorry I always forget the name of the trail, Wolf Branch maybe? Once you descend Lower Sidehill turn right onto the gravel road and it veers off to the left. It starts with a log ride and rock kicker.
    That's wolf branch and the last part before you turn back to the right may or may not be snot. You'll be fine. Have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    You'll be fine. Have fun.
    +1. I did a relatively short loop in BC on Friday afternoon. Yeah, there are some muddy spots, but for the most part the trails are pretty dry. Here's what we hit aside from gravel: Ingles Connector & Upper Ingles are good. Little Hickory/Sidehill a bit muddy in the flatter sections. Lower part of Lower Sidehill down to Boyd Branch Rd. was surprisingly good.

    And just FYI, the trail down from 5 points is Ingles Field. No biggie... as long as ya know yer route. :-)
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    Pisgah Trail Conditions

    Anyone out there this morning? Either BC or DuPont?

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    Coming in for the weekend - how are the trails? I'm hoping at least Dupont is rideable. Maybe BC?

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    I dont know if I would say that everything is good.

    Road North Mills River today. It was awful. I had to post-hole through the mud. My wheels were getting sucked down into it.

    Bent Creek on Thursday was a little sloppy. Ingles Field had thick clay mud in several places. Im sure the lower trails were in no better shape.

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    Your good to go! You may as well have fun, half of Asheville is, besides if you wait for a dry day you will never be able to ride.





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    I dont know if I would say that everything is good.

    Road North Mills River today. It was awful. I had to post-hole through the mud. My wheels were getting sucked down into it.

    Bent Creek on Thursday was a little sloppy. Ingles Field had thick clay mud in several places. Im sure the lower trails were in no better shape.
    We bagged our ride in N MILLS due to weather. Rained like a mofo out there.

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    Your good to go! You may as well have fun, half of Asheville is, besides if you wait for a dry day you will never be able to ride.





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    If you go out, you are going to hit some bad spots. So either decide to ride or hang your bike up for the next month or two.
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    Bent Creek should be closed to all trail users. I encountered the muddiest trails I've ever seen there, at least in full summer yesterday. It wasn't fun. Mills River has to be equally as bad.

    Anyone seen any decent trail conditions in Pisgah any where? I'd love to become reacquainted with my mountain bike properly but I'm thinking the trails need some TLC after this year.

    Side note: parkway is closed to cars, opened to bicycles past Bull Gap heading north towards Mitchell for those who hate riding on the road, this is a pretty rare opportunity. Might be a good idea to try something new this year!
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    The current info concerning the section of the parkway closed because of the water damage is that this weekend may be the last weekend for non-motorist use. Starting on Monday it will be closed to all users.

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    Making a trip to Asheville next week. Was hoping to bring the bike. Looking at Black Mountain and Sycamore Cove. How are things?

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    Right now things are ok.
    Next week could be a different story.

    Better play it safe and leave your bike home.
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    Hehe nice try you dirty local you! Thanks for the info

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    Rained the entire time I was there

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    I tried to tell you to leave your bike. You just didn't listen.
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    Pisgah over Brevard way had around 25 inches of rain in July and August 2013 combined
    There was some serious erosion in some places.

    October has been great so far
    Nice cool temps, plenty of Sunshine
    I don't think there is gonna be much of a leaf show this year but the riding is great and the trails are in good condition

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    AVOID BENT CREEK FOR AT LEAST 2 hours

    There is a huge wagon train going through bent creek right now. We sat for an hour and didnt move. Rice Pinnacle is completely full. They have some police escorts and are apparently going over the ridge into N. Mills. I'm riding tomorrow. If you or friends are heading there I would change plans.

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    I have gotten stuck behind those guys before at N. Mills. Who the heck are they?

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    This is an annual wagon/tractor train that has been occurring in early October for years. It is quite a sight for someone that is not expecting it!

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    Yellow Jackets on Sycamore about 200yrs up from Starnes Branch. I was hiking with my dog, he got popped a couple times while they swarmed us but never got me. We ran like hell so I never saw the hives location.

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    I will be hiking Sycamore with my dogs this week

    Not exactly sure where you are describing?
    Is this the stream on lower sycamore with the dual log bridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    I will be hiking Sycamore with my dogs this week

    Not exactly sure where you are describing?
    Is this the stream on lower sycamore with the dual log bridge?
    Yes but down near the bottom of that side of Sycamore where it intersects with Starnes Branch or whatever they renamed Mtn to Sea there recently.

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    Ah, ok, near the junction of Sycamore and Mtn to sea, the short connector that goes back up to Grassy road?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    Ah, ok, near the junction of Sycamore and Mtn to sea, the short connector that goes back up to Grassy road?
    Correct, about 200yrds up Syc from that junction.

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