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    Oramm 2011

    When is ORAMM this year? Also, does anyone have a training plan to share for someone that has neve done it before? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troop1120
    When is ORAMM this year? Also, does anyone have a training plan to share for someone that has neve done it before? Thank you.
    Don't know about anybody else, but I can't get the link to open. At least not at the moment. The site must be hosted on a very slow server or some other issue.

    I've never done it before. I don't have a training plan per se... I'll just ramp up miles/saddle time towards July now that my spring trail running is done with.

    A few of us went out and previewed part of the route about a month ago. Spent 5 hours out in the pouring rain. Had a blast! I'm sure we'll do that more as it starts to get closer. I've never ridden the Kitsuma portion so I'd like to do that in the not too distant future. I'm doing Tour of Cashiers (sorry... I love road riding too) this weekend, otherwise I'd suggest it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobovedo

    I've never done it before. I don't have a training plan per se... I'll just ramp up miles/saddle time towards July now that my spring trail running is done with.

    I'm doing Tour of Cashiers (sorry... I love road riding too) this weekend, otherwise I'd suggest it.
    There you go. Lots of road miles is the perfect training for ORAMM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    There you go. Lots of road miles is the perfect training for ORAMM.
    I've heard it described as a "roadies race". I understand why because most of the uphills are gravel. But I think that's funny because I spent most of my time on Heartbreak Ridge hike-a-biking and trying not to kill myself. I still haven't seen Kitsuma but from what I understand I'll be trying not to kill myself on that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobovedo
    But I think that's funny because I spent most of my time on Heartbreak Ridge hike-a-biking and trying not to kill myself. I still haven't seen Kitsuma but from what I understand I'll be trying not to kill myself on that too.
    Curtis Creek Rd will be your friend.

    H-A-B on the downhill????

    If so, just move to the side and let us slower climbers but faster descenders pass and we're all good

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    Curtis Creek was awesome! Even if it was like riding through peanut butter on the day we rode, I cruised up it pretty easily and couldn't figure out why everybody hates it so much. LMAO

    In my defense, we rode HR on a extremely wet, muddy day and I'd never been down it before. Besides... I'm exaggerating to make fun of myself. I didn't do all THAT bad! I was just slow as hell.

    So I'll be sure to let you daredevils fly by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troop1120
    When is ORAMM this year? Also, does anyone have a training plan to share for someone that has neve done it before? Thank you.

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    July 24. Pending USFs approval.

    Sit on the couch till the day before. Wake up day of and go ride some fun fast downhills. Then drink. Then do it again when swank rolls around.

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    I'm retired, too many roadies on the mountain making me wreck.

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    It's cool to start out a MTB race w/ 400 riders, there's a really neat vibe in the air, but yeah, there's a lot of gravel and pavement and quite frankly I'll never be good at this race so I've sat it out the past couple of years. I like Swank a whole lot more. That is a mountain bikers course!
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    Stupid is as stupid does, so I might sign up. I wonder what the new and improved Kitsuma will be like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plume
    there's a lot of gravel and pavement and quite frankly I'll never be good at this race
    I've come to the same conclusion - I'd like to try Swank this year

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    To prepare for Oramm is to ride for long distances on gravel/pavement, and perhaps ride Heartbreak a few times. From what I understand Kitsuma is pretty mellow now which is even worse news for the folks who rely on some sort of technical conditions to make up for a lack of fitness. Do lots of long rides. Ride your road bike lots, do shorter MTB rides, do longer MTB rides - then where a sweater while you're doing all of this to replicate July's blazing conditions. Should about cover it all.
    My one says BRAP!

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    It's easier and cheaper to just hit yourself in the head with a hammer a few times. Probably hurts less too.
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    The course isn't that bad...unless you do it in 120 degree heat and 220% humidity like there was last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29ftw
    I've come to the same conclusion - I'd like to try Swank this year
    Maybe so, but you're still going to train on the ORAMM course!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2xPneu
    Maybe so, but you're still going to train on the ORAMM course!!
    LOL, yeah, I rode HB Monday. I love riding those trails - just not for 9+hrs in July heat.

    Like Mike said, you might as well hit yourself with a hammer a few times

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    The local EMS is really good, and the hospital is not too far away....

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    It's already too late to start training for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plume
    From what I understand Kitsuma is pretty mellow now
    If the weather is good I suspect the course record will be broken. Climbing Kitsuma will be MUCH faster this year.
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    Can anyone give an estimation on the amount of singletrack vs pavement vs gravel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_co2
    Can anyone give an estimation on the amount of singletrack vs pavement vs gravel?
    Do a search for posts by BD279 - he created a very good breakdown of the course that specifies gravel vs pavement vs ST

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkjellquist
    If the weather is good I suspect the course record will be broken. Climbing Kitsuma will be MUCH faster this year.

    Today was the first time I have ever cleaned ALL of Kitsuma with my single speed. Yeah there are going to be some fast times this year.

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    About 17 mils singletrack, 43 miles gravel & pavement & old forest road.
    <img src="https://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6185/orammcuesheet.jpg"></img>

    Actually the bottom part of HBR is doubletrack and now Kitsuma is dirt but double track width.

    The race has a history of running out of water. Last year was the first they had plenty in a long time. Perhaps this has been permanently addressed but it's only fair to warn you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFromNC
    The race has a history of running out of water. Last year was the first they had plenty in a long time. Perhaps this has been permanently addressed but it's only fair to warn you.

    I worked aid station 4 last year. Todd has bought huge water bladders for each aid station. I don't think that will be a problem in the future. My poor little truck had a hard time hauling all that H2O up Hwy 80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    It's already too late to start training for this.
    there is no way to properly train for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snototter
    Today was the first time I have ever cleaned ALL of Kitsuma with my single speed. Yeah there are going to be some fast times this year.
    Nice!

    I did Kitsuma twice Wednesday evening (not single speed). Only did it once before. 1st time up I messed up one switchback and ended up clipping out. 2nd time up I messed up almost half of them. Fatigue... ya think? LOL I was dog tired before I even started.

    Lesson learned... get some rest before the event.
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    You have 11 weeks till the race. Long rides with climbing in the hottest par of the day. I train on the road often but you need the mtb skills on HB. I am not a great descender and passed 20 or so people on the trail. The heat was awful on Curtis Creek last year.
    I am far from one of the faster riders out there. It took me nearly ten hours last year. This year my goal is sub 8. I did a nice 84 mile rd ride with lots of climbing today, have the road assault on mitchell next week and will continue building from there. Probably won't see the ORAMM trails till after the Burn this year.

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    ORAMM training

    If training for ORAMM is long rides and heat, well I'm getting plenty of that here in FL.
    What makes Swank better?

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    i think i will be happy if i finish this thing, but I know I will. Be the turtle, slow and steady.

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    WTB - Entry to ORAMM 2011

    Hi - I didn't find out about the race early enough to get registered before it filled. I am looking to buy an entry from one unlucky soul that cannot make the race but already purchased an entry. Just hit me up with an email or reply.

    Thanks

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    2011 Oramm entry transfer

    Hi all,

    Well, I procrastinated and missed the entry for registrating for the upcoming race. If any one out there have registered and can't make it this year. I will be happy to take your place (after reimbursing you for your cost and covering the 25.00 transfer fee).

    Thanks a bunch,

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    Check your PM

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    @2xPneu - I sent you a response ...just want to confirm you got it.

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    Tires for ORAMM??

    This will be my first year at ORAMM. Any thoughts on 29er tires? Currently running Maxxis Ignitor on front and Crossmark on the back.

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    Need an entry

    Anybody got an entry they want to transfer?

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    Ignitor + crossmark would be fine.

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    Awesome! thanks. I am still looking for an entry.

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    Also looking for an entry...PM me if you have one for sale. Will pay transfer.

    Thanks.

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    Smile ORAMM entry

    Missed the cutoff and am looking for an entry trade. Please PM me if you'd like to sell. Usual pay entry+transfer fees. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spokejunky View Post
    Missed the cutoff and am looking for an entry trade. Please PM me if you'd like to sell. Usual pay entry+transfer fees. Thanks in advance.
    go to Blue Ridge Adventures Facebook Page

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...54&topic=15914

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    Good job! Awesome thanks

    I'm on that thread too for FB. Covering all bases as per BRA.

    We are recommending people interested in buying/selling a spot do some on a cycling forum like MTBR or through Facebook.

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    Anybody wanna do some part of the ORAMM course on July 2 or 3? Don't really care how much of it we do, as long as we hit most of the good bits. I've only done the CC/Parkway/Heartbreak part once and not sure I can remember it.

    I'm a late sleeper and would prefer an afternoon or at least late morning start. May as well get out in the mid-day heat and sweat out the hangover... right?
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    I'm in. I was with you on the last ride. Totally opposite conditions this time. I was on the Cannondale. See you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzio View Post
    I'm in. I was with you on the last ride. Totally opposite conditions this time. I was on the Cannondale. See you then.

    Rick
    Cool! Quite by coincidence, somebody from Augusta GA posted on the Asheville Mountain Bike Meetup site wanting to do the same thing. Looks like we're going to start at base of Kitsuma switchbacks. Start time still TBD. Details, such as they exist so far, are at:
    http://www.meetup.com/Asheville-MTB-...ents/23658981/

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    I got an e-mail from a gal in GA today who is looking to visit on the same dates. I had already sent her the link from Meetup and will send this too. Her husband may ride, though he's not participating in the race. You folks have a "limit" on the head count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-U-M View Post
    I got an e-mail from a gal in GA today who is looking to visit on the same dates. I had already sent her the link from Meetup and will send this too. Her husband may ride, though he's not participating in the race. You folks have a "limit" on the head count?
    I'm of the opinion that the more, the merrier. I plan to do the climbs fairly aggressively but have no objections to regrouping regularly. Everybody will probably have to wait for me at the bottoms of the descents anyway. I go uphill way better than downhill!
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    I already posted on FB, but in case someone is on here that has an entry for sale. I'll pay your costs + transfer + a little extra.

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