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    Forest Service markers and unofficial (e.g. mtb org) stickers

    I noticed last week that someone had placed some stickers on marker signs in Pisgah. They were for mountain biking advocacy organizations in other areas.

    I've seen this a handful of times and have wondered what, if anything, we should do when we encounter them. It seems like it would leave a bad image of riders for other trail users since these are meant to be part of USFS markings and not meant to be covered in stickers for other orgs.

    I realize this is a small issue, but I don't like when something like this gives us a bad rep and seeing these stickers stuck on the sign just struck a nerve with me . Is it worth removing these when we encounter them? Is this something the USFS cares about?

    I'm also personally affiliated with one of these organizations from my past and considered posting on their FB group asking people not to do it, but wasn't sure if I'd be "that guy" or not.

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    Personally, I would remove them if the organization did not get permission to place them on the markers. From a few meetings I have attended recently, the USFS has a VERY favorable attitude towards mountain biking currently. We need not do anything to jeopardize additional trails we can have added to USFS property.

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    Remove them. It's nothing more than littering and/or defacing property. Would you leave other trash or litter on a trail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Is it worth removing these when we encounter them? Is this something the USFS cares about?
    Yes and No.
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    Those are the answers I expected, just wanted to check.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Those are the answers I expected, just wanted to check.

    Thanks.
    If said group (with sticker) is the one maintaining the trails, that is one thing. But an out of town group just stating they have been here, that's another thing.
    Should you do more trail work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bfluid View Post
    If said group (with sticker) is the one maintaining the trails, that is one thing. But an out of town group just stating they have been here, that's another thing.
    It was the latter.

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    Welcome to my world of frustration and concern. Let me guess. FSR 477 @ Bennett Gap.

    As a professional guide who is in the forest weekly, daily, I am witnessing firsthand a trend and increase in sticker tagging and graffiti. Another case study would be the covered bridge in Dupont.

    I remove that nonsense every chance I get.

    I had the unfortunate privilege of reporting to DSRF personnel the first instance of spray-paint graffiti on Bridal Veil Falls this spring. And accompanied a ranger to the location my next guided trip as it worked out. It was sad listening to their efforts to address these "new" issues continuously.
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    No respect
    Should you do more trail work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by "CHIEF" View Post
    Welcome to my world of frustration and concern. Let me guess. FSR 477 @ Bennett Gap.
    Bottom of Cove Creek trial was this one. I've seen stickers from the same organization several times in inappropriate places, they're from FL.

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    I'd search them out on the interwebs and contact them and ask them to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Bottom of Cove Creek trial was this one. I've seen stickers from the same organization several times in inappropriate places, they're from FL.
    Damn Floridians... don't know how to drive on roads other than flat and straight, can't ride the tech, and apparently dork about with stickers.

    They also drive slow in the left lane when not passing for the record. It's true.

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    Hey! I'm originally from Florida! Born and raised in Miami. But, yea I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohkeepah View Post
    ....don't know how to drive on roads other than flat and straight...
    triggered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy G. Parrish View Post
    Hey! I'm originally from Florida! Born and raised in Miami. But, yea I agree.

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    I'm just being facetious for some good old fashioned smack talking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    triggered
    Floridians are gathering with pitchforks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohkeepah View Post
    I'm just being facetious for some good old fashioned smack talking...
    Yeah, I was being sarcastic. The left lane thing is definitely true. It was often a pleasure to watch cars with out of state tags move over when you approached. Other Floridians never did this.

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