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    Anyone have any experience at Baileys or Beech? Looking to go to one of the two in the next couple of weeks but im not sure which one.
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    Would like to see them compared to Snowshoe, Bryce, or Windrock which i have ridden recently. Everything ive heard or read says Baileys is steep but as to compared to what im not sure and ive just not heard much about Beech

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    Both aren't nearly as big, trail count wise, as SS or as technical as some of the trails there or at WR. A lot of the easier trails at bailey are like skyline at SS, but steeper, with better built jumps and tighter berms for the most part. The harder bailey stuff is a mix of steep, off camber trails with some rocks and drops thrown in.
    Beech has a nice rock garden, but it is relatively flat. I haven't been there since the ETD rework, but before the two harder trails there were sort of like the basin side of SS, if I had to compare. Ie, more natural features, not many banked turns (until the bottom) and more raw than the WT at SS. Now I think you will find more berms and man made type features.
    Both are shorter than SS and WR. Beech being the shortest, IIRC. However with the lift, you get lots of runs in. It is great, if you don't mind doing the same 4 trails over and over. Some folks like the variety of SS and Beech doesn't have that. However you can work those 4 trails pretty good and really hone your skills.
    Bailey is shuttled, like WR. So you'll be waiting at the bottom for it to fill and then drive to the top. It isn't an easy drive, but fairly short. So you won't get as many runs in as SS or Beech, but you'll still be sporting a smile afterwards.

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    I can't comment on Bailey (haven't been there), but myself and our team has been doing the design and construction updates at Beech for the last two seasons. It is a whole new park this year, so take any opinion of the "old beech" with a grain of salt. I can offer comparison to SS, Bryce, and WR for you.

    First off, the chairlift is great. Super fast with 4-bike trays and it's a detachable so you have plenty of time to get on and off. You will get more runs than you can handle and it won't damage your bike. Run length is comparable to the basin side of Snowshoe.

    Compared to Bryce: Longer, with more technical challenges and true DH bike terrain. Overall beech is more rugged and more difficult.

    Compared to Snowshoe: Lift service is comparable, but its a much smaller resort in acreage and amenities. SS also has about a decade head start on bike park development. The technical sections have a similar feel and Beech has the nice high elevation cool temperatures like the shoe.

    Compared to Windrock: Beech is less difficult than windrock, but has more options for less-experienced riders.

    Regarding the trail updates, we've preserved and enhanced the natural-style trails while adding a bunch of new terrain. We've built a lot of features and flowy stuff, but we've also built some super challenging DH terrain on "Black Bear". We've also built several new intermediate-level trails, one of which is more flow-oriented, and one of which is more "DH" oriented. There is also a beginner DH trail, which gets a ton of traffic from riders of all levels. One of our major goals has been to help the facility appeal to a wider variety of riders, and I feel we have been successful at that. I'm an experienced DH rider and racer and I have a blast on every trail there, from green to black.

    Here is a bunch of info and photos on our website. If you want to see more trail development at Beech, the best thing you can do is go there and support the park. There are plans for a lot more additions, but the resort management needs to feel they are seeing the increased visitor numbers they are looking for.

    There is also all the info you need to plan your trip on Beech Mountain Resort's website.

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    awesome thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Mueller- View Post
    One of our major goals has been to help the facility appeal to a wider variety of riders, and I feel we have been successful at that. I'm an experienced DH rider and racer and I have a blast on every trail there, from green to black.
    You guys did a great job. I just got back from a trip and it was a completely different park than it was 2 years ago. I remember my last trip up, the brake bumps on green made it almost unmanageable for me and I felt like the more difficult trails were out of reach (I did OK on Heartbreaker last trip). Obviously my skill has improved since then, but I felt like I had a lot more variety to choose from with better progression options than last time.

    The blues were awesome, I really enjoyed Bermese Python, it was enough to keep me challenged but at lower consequence and get me more familiar with riding park at where I'm at. Blue Ridge was a bit much in 2 spots, although I think I'll clean it all next time. I went in with a lot of fear and hesitancy due to prior experiences and that manifested itself in what I did and didn't ride, but I felt really good walking away from it this time. Not so much because I did better, but because I have things I know I can focus on for next trip and was able to push myself a little harder than I was before, it also felt like there were "fair" challenges for me as an intermediate trailrider and newbie DH rider.

    I always felt like Beech suffered from a lack of real progression, but that seems like something you guys did a great job of addressing this time.

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    does beech offer a good flow jump trail? videos are lacking on you tube

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB_ZA View Post
    does beech offer a good flow jump trail? videos are lacking on you tube
    New for this year is "Burmese Python", which is a blue level flow and feature trail. You'll also find berms and tables sprinkled throughout the park. There is a nice small set of tables on the green trail that are great for practicing jumping. There are a bunch of berms and features on Heartbreaker. The most significant step downs and gaps are on Black bear.

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    i think you have talked me into it! Beech it is, hope for nice weather now! looks like you guys have done a good job with the park. Thanks!

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    Let us know if you would like a tour. Any of the patrollers would be more than happy to show you around. ETD has done an awesome job you won't be disappointed.

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    Thanks might take you up on that!

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    I have a V2 SC 5010 130MM front and back. Thoughts on suitability for Beech? This is my first park trip but am comfortable with Dupont, most Pisgah, 3ft jumps and drops.

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    That bike will be fine on the green and blues. If you want to ride faster/harder on the blues or hit the black you might want to rent a a DH bike. Headquarters in Tynecastle has a couple TR450s and Magic has a couple V10s and Glories. Overall the greens and blues are steeper and more technical than most of Dupont. A lot of people ride trail bikes up there so I wouldn't let that hold you back from some awesome gravity laps. A trail bike is actually better on a couple of the blues and parts of the greens.

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    I am going to Beech for 4 days next weekend. Looking forward to some cooler temps than what we have been getting in SC. Are the Emerald Outback trails worth riding for a short ride? Also, I plan on doing Rocky Knob and heading over to N. Wilkesboro for Warrior Creek. Is there anything else in that area I should know about?
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    Emerald Outback is a good mellow ride when it is super hot off the mountain. The trails were reworked several years ago. They are very easy compared to what they were like. Most of the roots and cool technical aspects were removed for whatever reason. So long story short: worth a pedal but don't expect anything gnarly.

    The Wilson Creek area has amazing riding as long as you can read a map. There are countless threads about it. The "legal" trails to ride are Greentown, Wilson Ridge, and Woodruff Branch. Stop by Headquarters Bike and Outdoor and ask Sean to give you directions.

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    Sugad Brad - do you know of any good road or road/gravel loops in the 20-30 mile range up that way? I did the Beech Mtn metric a couple of years ago and did the 3 Peaks USA gravel grind one time, so I know there is good riding, but I don't really know my way around.
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    Literally too many to list. But if you want gravel I would head towards Mortimer/Edgemont. Edgemont, Brown Mtn Beach, Roseboro, Pineola rds would all be epic.

    For road (disclaimer I don't ride road but have worked in bike shops and lived in the area enough to know my way around): Most riders like to to a Viaduct loop consisting of 221 and the Parkway. What I can tell you about road riding:STAY OFF 105. If you see someone riding 105 they are most likely lost or clueless or both.

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    Yeah, I made the mistake of riding 105 one time years ago.
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    How does Beech handle the weather? Looking at going tomorrow but seems it has gotten some rain today?

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    Would Old 105 to Lake James be a good ride?

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    Beech handles rain really well. The dirt is better when it is wet actually. Everything except the upper part of Black Bear is fine on dry tires.

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    i went to Beech this past saturday and was extremely impressed! was not expecting it to be so fun ETD done an awesome job on the trails! i think there was more people there than at Snowshoe last time i went there but the lift line were good and the trails were not crowded at all. i will be goin there a lot more often. big thumbs up to Beech

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    Awesome, glad to hear you had a great time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB_ZA View Post
    i went to Beech this past saturday and was extremely impressed! was not expecting it to be so fun ETD done an awesome job on the trails! i think there was more people there than at Snowshoe last time i went there but the lift line were good and the trails were not crowded at all. i will be goin there a lot more often. big thumbs up to Beech
    Awesome to hear! Please spread the word and I hope to see you on the trails sometime.

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    Good info here on Beech and Bailey's and pretty spot on.

    So I know there was a thread last year about Sugar, but there were rumors last time at Beech a couple of weeks ago that they are tired of seeing all the bikes pass them during the summer and they plan to open a bikepark again. Any truth or just the same old story being rehashed?

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    It would be cool but: Other than the service chair there isn't a way to get bikes on the lift. About half of the DH trail is gone from the construction of the new lift. So it would take a lot to do a bike park plus they aren't interested in races.

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    I am too old to do this bike park stuff, but I rode Emerald Outback today and had a great time.
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    Nonsense! Who says you can't teach an old dog? Give it a shot you might like it!

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    @mikeridesabike give it a shot! while i am on the youger side ive seen plenty of older farts at the bike parks! green trails are normally nice smooth flowy trails not everything is send a huge jumps and risk killing yourself, you can make it as wild as you want. its a nice atmosphere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike View Post
    I am too old to do this bike park stuff, but I rode Emerald Outback today and had a great time.
    My 62 year old mom rides the bike park! You got it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Brad View Post
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    Nonsense! Who says you can't teach an old dog? Give it a shot you might like it!
    Not a matter of liking it. Just a matter of not wanting to break any bones.
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    Anyone headed to Beech this weekend? ill be there!

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    Anyone rode Bailey as of late? ive heard it was blown out???

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    Some rain ruts and braking bumps.

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    We have a huge bike park, it's called Western North Carolina!

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    So is Beech closing today? Hours posted on the website stated to be in effect until 9/3. Would sure love to ride there on trip back home in October! Thanks for any info.

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    We closed yesterday. Season runs Memorial Day Saturday to Labor Day Sunday.

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    Thanks Sugar Brad! Any good commercial shuttle runs around WNC?

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    Yes Bailey Mountain Bailey Mountain Bike Park

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    Definitely check out Bailey Mtn Bike Park. They are open year round. As far as shuttling the forest goes you will find that it doesn't save you much time. Yes there are legal trails to shuttle, just not worth the extra vehicle to avoid a 30 min climb. Also check out Rocky Knob in Boone.

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    I'm curious why the season is so short at Beech? It seems most other parks, even those further north, have longer seasons. Prior to last year, I also thought it was open until Oct. Why the change?

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    Thanks, y'all! Bailey looks grrreat!

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    And Bailey WAS great! Thanks y'all! Couldn't ask for a funner friendlier place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Mueller- View Post
    New for this year is "Burmese Python", which is a blue level flow and feature trail. You'll also find berms and tables sprinkled throughout the park. There is a nice small set of tables on the green trail that are great for practicing jumping. There are a bunch of berms and features on Heartbreaker. The most significant step downs and gaps are on Black bear.

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    Attendance drops significantly after Labor Day. Tell your friends and more people to come and they can justify staying open longer. It also takes a lot of time preparing for ski season. It's not as easy as flipping a switch like the general public thinks.

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