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    09 PMBAR Results

    1. Wes Dickson / Chris Bennett
    2. Rich Dillen / Thad Hoffman
    3. Dennis Helton / Bob Koerber
    4. Bruce Steinfurth / Ross Clark
    5. Dennis K*ntz / Zach Boussard
    6. Ben Poss / Matt Rice
    7. Mike Brown / Ian Baldwin
    8. Dave Simpson / Tal Ingram
    9. Eric Cutlip / Adam Winton
    10. Alex Hawkins / Dave Parsons
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    Props to all the teams who got 5 cps!
    My one says BRAP!

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    Yo, can you reveal the check points for us spectators? Wow only 3 made 5 check points= brutal! Great job to my boy Mater, top 20 is impressive.
    Bigdaddy from Indy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reignman
    Yo, can you reveal the check points for us spectators? Wow only 3 made 5 check points= brutal! Great job to my boy Mater, top 20 is impressive.
    Bigdaddy from Indy
    Sure!

    Mandatory 1: Squirrel Gap trail at Cantrell Creek trail
    Mandatory 2: Laurel Mountain trail at Pilot Rock Connector
    3. The swinging bridge near the intersection of S.Mills River trail and Bradley Creek trail
    4. FS 5000 2.5 miles up from N. Mills River campground
    5. FS225 at the gate.
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    We made the whiteboard!!!!
    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reignman
    ...only 3 made 5 check points...
    Several of those in in red also grabbed 5.

    Great event...Thanks to the promoter, vols, and sponsors!

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    F'n O-ring

    While I still can't get over how much a disintegrated o-ring that at a maximum might cost five cents, can cause such a great impact on fixing a flat tire , I want to thank the team who lended a working pump to us and also give a big shout out to the Wednesday night drinking club and to those Sycamore boys who made it on the board. Job well done fellas! Till next time...
    Last edited by "CHIEF"; 05-03-2009 at 05:51 PM.
    "You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time."

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    Great event Eric!! Thanks to all of the check point volunteers, even all those I didn't see.

    No where near the board, but still a good time to be had.

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    Photos coming soon! got some great shots out there



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    Hey everyone!

    Do me a favor please. If you raced and wrote a report anywhere post a link here.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Hey everyone!

    Do me a favor please. If you raced and wrote a report anywhere post a link here.

    Thanks.
    Thanks for putting on PMBAR it is AWESOME!!!!

    How it went for us.
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    Since you asked all nice like Eric.

    My report is here:

    http://teamdicky.blogspot.com/2009/0...-in-books.html

    and Thad "The Anchor Man" Hoffman's is here:

    http://j5marsupial.blogspot.com/2009...om-minors.html
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    Nice write up Wes. My story goes like this. Mike Brown tells me where to pedal, I put my head down and follow his wheel all day. Seemed to work like a charm. Our route was similar just take out that silly wash creek road section lol...

    thanks again Eric!
    My one says BRAP!

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    Route:
    Black>Turkey>South Mills>Cantrell>Squirrel>Horse>5018>Pilot>Pilot Rock Connector>Pilot Rock Connector>Pilot>1206>276>475-B>225>225>475-B>276>477>Clawhammer>Maxwell>Black.
    Reason for relative success: Racing Poss/Rice for the bottom of the Pilot all the way to the finish. That was far too fun and made me work f'in hard.
    Mech's suck, especially random one's like the one that got us.
    Wes- Thanks for the map donations and checkpoint manning, great commitment from y'all on that end.

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    I had a ton of fun out there manning the Squirrel/Cantrel Pisgah Area SORBA check point with Maida and Van. I'd say the fun started last Sunday when Maida and I started the beer shuttles but that wasn't actually too fun.

    Now speaking of fun, you should have seen Van being pulled down the mountain by a FULLY loaded B.O.B. after it decided it didn't like Squirrel at about 9:30 p.m. Friday! Now that was fun!

    Seeing racers of all types and with every strategy imaginable was a highlight. I think we had 47 teams come through in a steady stream from 10:11 till 6:30ish. There was a bit of a lul in the afternoon for a couple hours.

    Waking to a Sunday morning Spring rain wasn't even all that bad, especially as the sun popped out just in time for our steamy push back to the truck.

    Loved it all! See you out there next year.
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    AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME! AWESOME!

    http://extrmtao.blogspot.com/2009/05...mbar-2009.html

    Thanks to everyone that contributed and as always, see you next year.
    BS'ing less, riding more.

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    Here is my casual ride in the woods.

    http://bentcrank.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/pmbar-09/

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    PMBAR Report

    Same as mater, but slightly different perspective.
    I did not have any bleach in my eye.

    http://scmountainbiker.blogspot.com/

    Thanks Eric and all of the Volunteers! Another great PMBAR.

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    Route map

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown
    Route:
    Black>Turkey>South Mills>Cantrell>Squirrel>Horse>5018>Pilot>Pilot Rock Connector>Pilot Rock Connector>Pilot>1206>276>475-B>225>225>475-B>276>477>Clawhammer>Maxwell>Black.
    Reason for relative success: Racing Poss/Rice for the bottom of the Pilot all the way to the finish. That was far too fun and made me work f'in hard.
    Mech's suck, especially random one's like the one that got us.
    Wes- Thanks for the map donations and checkpoint manning, great commitment from y'all on that end.
    I think that would look kind of like this...

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    BTW, Nat Geo mapping software is abominable
    I read that on the internet.

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    First PMBAR, awesome race!!! Here is my race report, very similar to others.

    http://chadbanner.blogspot.com/

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    Much respect to all who participated, great job! Great ride reports too, makes for good reading, thanks!

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    Lame thread.



    No gastronomical horror stories, no divorces, no lost friendships, no riding miles with a duct taped seat post, no lost body parts, no horse poop encrusted bike parts ... geeze. At least Tomato tried to changed his eye color.

    Playing catch-up on all the links. Sounds like a Love Fest of happy mountain bikers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40hills
    I think that would look kind of like this...


    BTW, Nat Geo mapping software is abominable
    Not all of those check points look right to me.

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    those aren't check points

    Quote Originally Posted by gatman
    Not all of those check points look right to me.
    Those aren't check points. That's simply where I had to put route segments to avoid making the route go haywire.
    I read that on the internet.

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    my race report can be found here:

    http://cfaine.blog.com/
    More Trails, Not Less

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40hills

    BTW, Nat Geo mapping software is abominable
    Looks so easy on the map! 50 miles means that my computer is really really wrong...
    My one says BRAP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plume
    Looks so easy on the map! 50 miles means that my computer is really really wrong...
    I was wondering if the software didn't accurately measure the out and back distance- that would account for the discrepancy. But, the elevation profile does reflect the out and backs, so it seems like it is in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown
    I was wondering if the software didn't accurately measure the out and back distance- that would account for the discrepancy. But, the elevation profile does reflect the out and backs, so it seems like it is in there.
    I'd like to think the mileage was 60 or so, so that's what I'm sticking with.
    My one says BRAP!

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    All those pictures and still no love. :-(

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    Results?

    Yo - Dr Evil

    Looking forward to seeing the rest of the results,

    for those of us who finished and didn't quite make the white board.

    BLACK MOUNTAIN in the DARK!

    Bwah hah ha!

    Eric ||

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatman
    All those pictures and still no love. :-(
    yeah, i lost about 100+ shots from the black mountain climb bad / defective memory card it was messing up... and all the images shot were 1/2 and some 3/4 images when downloaded - but i swapped cards and the problem went away, bad thing was the bulk of the riders had already passed....

    then after leaving the swinging bridge i decided to go up SMR to Cantrell and only had 1 or two teams pass and all i got was bad butt shots... so i turned back to head to the TP parking lot, didn't cross paths with anyone then road up 66 jumps to the parking lot and i heard a dozen or so riders on the So. Mills Trail down to the bridge, so that was another group i missed....

    Yeah E, needs to hire a Pro Photog to do this thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC_dirtsurfer
    Yo - Dr Evil

    Looking forward to seeing the rest of the results,

    for those of us who finished and didn't quite make the white board.

    BLACK MOUNTAIN in the DARK!

    Bwah hah ha!

    Eric ||
    Hey guys, please be patient. I'll get the full results up soon. I'm getting hammered by work at my 'real' job and haven't had three seconds to think about PMBAR.....
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    view from the rear

    My 2 cents of PMBAR experience... a fine day to be in the woods.

    Thanks to Eric for putting this whole thing together - we are fortunate to have this event here in Pisgah.
    many gears, some pies

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    Off-road less traveled

    Our funky route.

    Black Mtn - Pressley Gap
    Down Maxwell up Clawhammer to Buckhorn Gap
    Up Black to Club Gap
    Club to 477 to 475 to 225 (Checkpoint 1)
    225 to 475 to 276 to 1206
    Up Pilot(Ouch!) (Checkpoint 2)
    Down Laurel (Wee!) to 1206 to 5000/Wash Creek (Checkpoint 3)
    5000 to 1206 to 5015 to Laurel Creek
    Mullinax - S.Mills River/Turkey Pen (Checkpoint 4)
    S.Mills River Mullinax - Squirrel (!)Cantrell Creek (Checkpoint 5)
    Squirrel - S.Mills River - Buckhorn Gap
    Down Clawhammer FR - up Maxwell Cove/Pressley Gap
    Down Black to Finish

    5 Checkpoints
    82 Miles
    13hrs 40min total time
    Another fine bottle of PMBAR

    Thanks to all the volunteers, organizers, and sponsers that make this event so special.

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    route:
    blk mtn> Buckhorn Gap> 476 > FS 5018 > Horse Cove Gap> Cantrell Cr > S Mills> Bradley Cr> FS 5015 (to Yellow Gap) > FS1206 > FS 5000> FS1206> Laurel Mt > Pilot Rock > FS 1206> HWY 276> FS 5041> 475 B> FS 225> 475 B> 5041> 276> FS 477> 5058> 5022> Black Mtn> Finish

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    Team 18

    Our route... not the fastest/shortest, but definitely fun:

    Black Mountain -> Turkey Pen (CP) ->
    Bradley Creek -> 5015 -> 1206 -> 5000 (CP) ->
    1206 -> Laurel Mountain (CP) ->
    Pilot Rock -> 1206 -> 476 -> 5018 -> Horse Cove -> Squirrel Gap (CP) ->
    South Mills River -> Buckhorn Gap -> Clawhammer -> Maxwell Cove -> Black Mountain (right at sunset)

    Ride Time: 12:30
    Miles: ~60
    Climbing: a lot (leading to mental/physical low-points on 5015 and Laurel Mountain)
    Team Calories Consumed: ~5000
    Team Water Consumed: ~10 L

    Major thanks to Eric, Erinna and all of the volunteers out there for putting on a great race year after year.

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    Mark, check your odometer ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMTB
    Our route... not the fastest/shortest, but definitely fun:

    Black Mountain -> Turkey Pen (CP) ->
    Bradley Creek -> 5015 -> 1206 -> 5000 (CP) ->
    1206 -> Laurel Mountain (CP) ->
    Pilot Rock -> 1206 -> 476 -> 5018 -> Horse Cove -> Squirrel Gap (CP) ->
    South Mills River -> Buckhorn Gap -> Clawhammer -> Maxwell Cove -> Black Mountain (right at sunset)

    Ride Time: 12:30
    Miles: ~60
    Climbing: a lot (leading to mental/physical low-points on 5015 and Laurel Mountain)
    Team Calories Consumed: ~5000
    Team Water Consumed: ~10 L

    Major thanks to Eric, Erinna and all of the volunteers out there for putting on a great race year after year.
    Nat Geo says 56 miles... not 60

    EDIT: I do not know exactly where the checkpoint was on FS5000... I guestimated the turnaround.

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    I read that on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40hills
    Nat Geo says 56 miles... not 60
    Comparing my GPS with NatGeo over many rides I find NatGeo is short on the miles and long on the elevation. I usually take 10% off the elevation and add 10% to the distance.

    My PMBAR on the GPS was 52.4 miles and 8680ft, on NatGeo it was 46.3 miles and 11,550 ft. On a shorter rides (~20 miles or so) you should guestimate a bit less than 10% correction factor. Trails with lots of switchbacks like Pilot are especially bad on NatGeo.
    many gears, some pies

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC_dirtsurfer
    Yo - Dr Evil

    Looking forward to seeing the rest of the results,

    for those of us who finished and didn't quite make the white board.

    BLACK MOUNTAIN in the DARK!

    Bwah hah ha!

    Eric ||
    Nice to have met you Eric.

    Rob

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    We had a lot of fun, rode about 65 miles in 13 hours and climbed over 10,000 ft. A great day on the bike! Our route:
    Black Mountain -> Pressley Gap -> Mawell Cove -> Clawhammer -> Buckhorn Gap -> South Mills River -> Squirrel Gap -> Cantrell Creek (CP) -> South Mills River -> Turkey Pen Gap (CP) -> Bradley Creek -> 5015 -> Yellow Gap -> 1206 -> FS 5000 (CP) -> back to 1206 -> Yellow Gap -> Laurel Mountain (CP on the top) -> Pilot Rock -> 1206 -> South Mills River -> Buckhorn Gap -> Clawhammer -> Maxwell Cove -> Pressley Gap -> Black Mountain.

    Thanks to Eric for another great race! This was my 6th PMBAR and probably the most enjoyable!

    Rich - The checkpoint on FS 5000 was about a mile up the road from where you mapped it at one of the campsites.

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    Another Pisgah Epic!

    Great time Eric ... thanks for another killer Pisgah epic! Here's my story

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    It was awesome.

    Since you asked Eric, Here is my write up:

    a bit of a tale, but read it if you like....

    thanks again, see ya at Double Dare!

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    Here are pictures from the Checkpoint at Squirrel Gap and Cantrell

    We had lots of fun. It was great to hang in the woods, sip on a beer and tell people things like "you should make it back easily from here" and "when you get to 5018, just stand up and hammer".

    The new format had people going all sorts of ways. Great year for strategy.

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    Thanks for the pics. Nice! Thanks for the support at the CP too.

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    sweet!! Thanks Maida!! Proof that I was actually somewhere in the woods that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maida7
    Here are pictures from the Checkpoint at Squirrel Gap and Cantrell

    We had lots of fun. It was great to hang in the woods, sip on a beer and tell people things like "you should make it back easily from here" and "when you get to 5018, just stand up and hammer".

    The new format had people going all sorts of ways. Great year for strategy.

    Great shots David! i posted your link on the PMBAR website photos page!

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    Van took the pics but with my camera. I was busy stamping passports.

    Does he always do this face?


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    classic tomato. great trail side company right there!
    My one says BRAP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maida7
    Van took the pics but with my camera. I was busy stamping passports.

    Does he always do this face?



    Yeah Joe always looks like he's getting ready to cry!

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    Since it's funny, and PMBAR related, and not everybody reads my blog...

    (photo by Brado/words by Peter at Misfit Psycles)

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    Still playing ketchup from the past weekend...

    Mr. D - did you pony-up with The TN Thad who used to work for some rusty software company?

    If it is The Thad, he was part of a duo I let stay in to my camp at Saulie a few years ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by M-U-M
    Still playing ketchup from the past weekend...
    Mr. D - did you pony-up with The TN Thad who used to work for some rusty software company?

    If it is The Thad, he was part of a duo I let stay in to my camp at Saulie a few years ago.
    One in the same. 12 hours of Tsali back in the day.

    The dots are connecting.

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    Thanks to everyone that helped I had a blast. I raced with my cousin and neither of us had done anything like this before. I ran a 3 x 1 for 2/3 of the race because of a broken rear derailleur but we eventually finished with 4 checkpoints. And espicially thanks to the guy at our last checkpoint at FS500 who gave us the PBR to get us home. That was the best tasting PBR of my life. Nothing beats flying down black mountain in the dark with a mini Mag-Lite clinched in your teeth. What a day!

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    Who was the pretty blond girl taking pics with the high-end Canon d-SLR with video capabilities? And..... uh...... where are her pics?
    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoenth
    Who was the pretty blond girl taking pics with the high-end Canon d-SLR with video capabilities? And..... uh...... where are her pics?

    Karen Kowalski Peerson has posted some the images on FaceBook

    as soon as post them i'll put a link on the PMBAR photo page.

    message from her on posting images:

    Yeah, those were just a few shots! We wil b workin on the pmbar video/photos and get to ya real soon! Im new at editing/cutting/etc so b patient itll b a good one

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    Thanks, Brado!

    I've just created a FACEBOOK GROUP for the PMBAR.
    Look it up, join, post some pics, Ya'll!
    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Cool, I just joined!

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    Nerd alert

    I have 2 questions:

    1) what bikes were ppl on the top 10 teams riding?

    2) any nerds out there ride with their blackberries or other inappropriate business equipment??
    I read that on the internet.

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    Anybody seen the final results. Hadn't seen them posted on Eric's website yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reward
    Anybody seen the final results. Hadn't seen them posted on Eric's website yet.

    i saw Eric yesterday and he said he'd been busy as hell w/ work and hadn't had a chance to work on the results, as soon as he gets them to me i'll post 'em on the site.

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    Ok. Keep us posted.

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    Just happened to check again today. No results posted and there's still that "The Rest of the Field Coming Soon" message.

    Bueller? Too much PBR?

    It's really not that big of a deal but it'd be nice to know how everyone finished at some point.

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