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    Just heard from my dealer the new RLT 9's will be flat mount. Color scheme for the steel with gray, except the orange will be replaced with blue.

    Does anyone have any images of the new paint scheme by chance?

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    Switched to the BSB 9 RDO, so I'm selling my white/green 59cm RLT 9 frameset (9/10 condition): 2015 Niner RLT 9 Frameset (Aluminum/Carbon) - Buy and Sell Mountain Bikes and Accessories

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    If anyone is interested, the Handsome Cycles Mud Butler fenders fit the alloy RLT nicely. The 40c Kenda Flitridge tires rubbed, so I switched to some smaller Vittoria Adventure Trails mounted tubeless. Nice tires, they held 40psi for a week with no sealant!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    I ended up going with a 56cm. The standover height on the RLT Steel is pretty tall, and for my intended use it made sense to have some clearance. I normally fit a large Niner frame and 56cm frame fits me well. The 59cm has a standover height of 33.4" .
    Hows that working out for you? Im the same height and inseam and based on every dimension I would use to normally use to determine fit, Im leaning 56 (my ideal TT length is 57 with the RLT9 being 56.5) but every person on the internet, besides you, is saying 59. Looking for more of an Impala than a Cadillac. My gut is saying 56 with a 120mm stem.

    The closest local shop that stocks Niner is an hour away and with Jensons current price on a 3-star, I would feel awful going in for a spin just to order online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actionpark View Post
    Hows that working out for you? Im the same height and inseam and based on every dimension I would use to normally use to determine fit, Im leaning 56 (my ideal TT length is 57 with the RLT9 being 56.5) but every person on the internet, besides you, is saying 59. Looking for more of an Impala than a Cadillac. My gut is saying 56 with a 120mm stem.

    The closest local shop that stocks Niner is an hour away and with Jensons current price on a 3-star, I would feel awful going in for a spin just to order online.
    The 56 BSB is nearly perfect. I'd go with a 56 again, but I also haven't hit any single track to see how it handles.

    As I understand it, in an ideal fit the front hub should be hidden from the upright riding position by the handle bars, but my bars are probably 1.5 inches behind the hub. My riding position might be too far forward, but that might also be because I'm running the stem pretty high right now for commuting comfort.

    If I were to buy another RLT, I'd definitely go with the 56cm. The 59 felt like a Cadillac to me. But keep in mind my experience is between an RLT and a BSB, so it's not 100% apples to apples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actionpark View Post
    Hows that working out for you? Im the same height and inseam and based on every dimension I would use to normally use to determine fit, Im leaning 56 (my ideal TT length is 57 with the RLT9 being 56.5) but every person on the internet, besides you, is saying 59. Looking for more of an Impala than a Cadillac. My gut is saying 56 with a 120mm stem.
    Based on what I read on the Internet it seemed like 59cm was the way to go. But when I looked at the geometry and standover height, I started having doubts for my own fitment. I ended up calling Jenson and they asked around the shop. Their consensus was to go with 56cm, and now that I've got the bike, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    Based on what I read on the Internet it seemed like 59cm was the way to go. But when I looked at the geometry and standover height, I started having doubts for my own fitment. I ended up calling Jenson and they asked around the shop. Their consensus was to go with 56cm, and now that I've got the bike, I agree.
    Good to know I'm not alone in this experience!

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    I was able to pick up a used frameset locally and have a general question about the cable routing.

    Are you running full length cable housing between rear shifter and derailleur, and a full length from front shifter down to the bottom bracket exit hole?

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    Niner RLT9

    Got my new to me RLT9 built up this week with virtually all parts I had on hand.

    Replaces a SS 29er I was using as a kid hauler and an old road bike I was using for the occasional 25-30 mile ride and on the trainer.

    I think it's going to be a great do it all bike for me. First ride was to the playground.





    Some new tires coming tomorrow and am planning on re-lacing these hope/flows to be hope/grail, which combined should drop almost 3 pounds

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    Got the new RLT 9 Steel this weekend, it is amazing. It's my first experience with SRAM and hydraulic brakes and they are great so far. The robin egg blue was a bit of a surprise (promotional materials make it look darker), but honestly I like it better. It currently has 35mm tires on (real casing-to-casing width: 35.5mm), and even with the PDW fenders I think it can fit 40mms on. I like the stock Schwalbes though!


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    Quote Originally Posted by sennaster View Post
    Got my new to me RLT9 built up this week with virtually all parts I had on hand.

    Replaces a SS 29er I was using as a kid hauler and an old road bike I was using for the occasional 25-30 mile ride and on the trainer.

    I think it's going to be a great do it all bike for me. First ride was to the playground.





    Some new tires coming tomorrow and am planning on re-lacing these hope/flows to be hope/grail, which combined should drop almost 3 pounds
    How does the chariot connect to the bike, thru axle or chain stay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mapomatic View Post
    How does the chariot connect to the bike, thru axle or chain stay?

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    I have the QR version of the frame, so I just use the standard chariot mount, but I did have to file the mount a little



    If I had the thru axle version I'd get one of these https://robertaxleproject.com/cargo-child-trailers/

    Honestly I went for the QR frame to be able to easily swap between my normal QR, add the trailer mount, or put in my trainer's QR

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    Anyone know if a 46T direct mount front ring will fit on a RLT9 Steel? Would like to run 10-42 XO1 cassette with a 44 or 46T front ring but worried about clearance

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHubTDI View Post
    Anyone know if a 46T direct mount front ring will fit on a RLT9 Steel? Would like to run 10-42 XO1 cassette with a 44 or 46T front ring but worried about clearance
    Doubtful but it would also depend on crankset/chainring combo with direct mount. It's about 40T max with an XX1 crankset/chainring.

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    For those that have ridden a BSB and RLT, when properly geared, which has more of a road bike feel/handling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider View Post
    For those that have ridden a BSB and RLT, when properly geared, which has more of a road bike feel/handling?
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    The RLT 9. It's more stable thanks to its longer geo and lower bottom bracket. The BSB is pretty twitchy. However, I'd imagine there a number of road bikes with really short chainstays that handle pretty similar to the BSB, so it's probably splitting hairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider View Post
    For those that have ridden a BSB and RLT, when properly geared, which has more of a road bike feel/handling?
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    I personally feel like the rlt is the road bike that everyone needs but doesn't know they need. I find most traditional road bikes to be designed around what pros need, not what the average rider needs. The rlt line is comfortable, stable, and versatile. It can take fenders and racks and it is designed to maximise rider enjoyment. Most road bikes are designed around narrow tires and pure speed. I can hang just fine on road rides with my rlt (especially if I swap 28c tires in). I just don't see why anyone would buy a traditional road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleForScience View Post
    I personally feel like the rlt is the road bike that everyone needs but doesn't know they need. I find most traditional road bikes to be designed around what pros need, not what the average rider needs. The rlt line is comfortable, stable, and versatile. It can take fenders and racks and it is designed to maximise rider enjoyment. Most road bikes are designed around narrow tires and pure speed. I can hang just fine on road rides with my rlt (especially if I swap 28c tires in). I just don't see why anyone would buy a traditional road bike.
    My thinking exactly.

    Riding CAAD8 now but RLT is my next bike. My only concern is that it seems heavy based on builds I see (56 shows 24 lbs) but I can't figure out of that is due to stock components or if the frame itself is heavier. I know it is tested to MTB standards so it might be a bit heavy. Although I am 220# so it might be a good thing.


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    Appreciate the opinions.
    In the summer I'm mostly a roadie and put miles on my tarmac and was wondering which would give me the closest feel to a pure road machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heybrady View Post
    My thinking exactly.

    Riding CAAD8 now but RLT is my next bike. My only concern is that it seems heavy based on builds I see (56 shows 24 lbs) but I can't figure out of that is due to stock components or if the frame itself is heavier. I know it is tested to MTB standards so it might be a bit heavy. Although I am 220# so it might be a good thing.


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    Niner publishes the frame & fork weights now:
    Is the RLT 9 Aluminum Gravel Bike for Me? ? Niner Bikes Life

    For 56cm:
    alloy - 2.04 kg
    steel - 2.78 kg
    carbon - 1.65 kg

    Whether the frames are heavy depends on whether you are comparing to road bikes designed for 28mm tires and pavement or to gravel bikes that fit wide tires and are singletrack approved.

    The steel frame is lighter than most comparable steel bikes in the gravel category.

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    hey guys.

    I've a Cannondale CX1 in 54cm right now but I think about it to go back to steel cause I like the clean look. The white RLT Steel is on sale (50% off) right now in germany.
    I hassle a bit with the correct size. I'm 182cm tall and niner said 56 was the right choice. But as a bought my Cannondale the dealer said to me he do not sell me this Bike in 56.

    Maybe a 90mm / 80mm Stem and the 56 fits perfect? What you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhellmann View Post
    hey guys.

    I've a Cannondale CX1 in 54cm right now but I think about it to go back to steel cause I like the clean look. The white RLT Steel is on sale (50% off) right now in germany.
    I hassle a bit with the correct size. I'm 182cm tall and niner said 56 was the right choice. But as a bought my Cannondale the dealer said to me he do not sell me this Bike in 56.

    Maybe a 90mm / 80mm Stem and the 56 fits perfect? What you mean?
    You might want to test ride the 56cm first. The biggest difference between the 53 and 56 is the seat tube and stand over and height. With the 56cm your gaining about 2.5cm or 1 inch for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordzkof View Post
    You might want to test ride the 56cm first. The biggest difference between the 53 and 56 is the seat tube and stand over and height. With the 56cm your gaining about 2.5cm or 1 inch for both.
    OK that sounds like 56 is fine. I thin when I go with ohne I must install a bit shorter Stem and I'm happy.

    Other question
    Is the full Frame with 853 Steel or just TT, DT and ST?

    Thanks!

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    Do you have any pics of your bike with the fenders? They look great on the Amazon pics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobine View Post
    If anyone is interested, the Handsome Cycles Mud Butler fenders fit the alloy RLT nicely. The 40c Kenda Flitridge tires rubbed, so I switched to some smaller Vittoria Adventure Trails mounted tubeless. Nice tires, they held 40psi for a week with no sealant!


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    Any pics? Wondering how the blue looks outside of their marketing photos

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    I believe just the main triangle is 853

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    Are gravel bike frame weights similar to touring frame weights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spillway View Post
    Niner publishes the frame & fork weights now:
    Is the RLT 9 Aluminum Gravel Bike for Me? ? Niner Bikes Life

    For 56cm:
    alloy - 2.04 kg
    steel - 2.78 kg
    carbon - 1.65 kg

    Whether the frames are heavy depends on whether you are comparing to road bikes designed for 28mm tires and pavement or to gravel bikes that fit wide tires and are singletrack approved.

    The steel frame is lighter than most comparable steel bikes in the gravel category.
    Those weights are way off compared to what I received. My 62cm steel frame only is over 6lbs. By comparison my 64cm Soma smoothie ES (Tange Prestige) is 4.8lbs. My custom wily 29er mountain bike frame (ox platinum) is 4.4lbs. The fork is quite light though (1.4lbs).

    I was expecting it to be around 5lbs so am quite shocked by the heft.

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    If I can remember how to host the pics I'll post some tomorrow. The blue is a very light feminine baby blue. I was expecting the cyan blue color that is very popular right now. At least that's what the online pics looked like to me. I would have preferred a deeper blue, but it isn't terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by npstaehling View Post
    If I can remember how to host the pics I'll post some tomorrow. The blue is a very light feminine baby blue. I was expecting the cyan blue color that is very popular right now. At least that's what the online pics looked like to me. I would have preferred a deeper blue, but it isn't terrible.
    Thank you! Now all I need to hear is that it rides like sh!^ so my lust subsides. I really like the Red/White layout so like you the paint is another strike. Not that I have the $$$ to buy one anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by npstaehling View Post
    If I can remember how to host the pics I'll post some tomorrow. The blue is a very light feminine baby blue. I was expecting the cyan blue color that is very popular right now. At least that's what the online pics looked like to me. I would have preferred a deeper blue, but it isn't terrible.
    That color sounds more desirable to me!


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    Quote Originally Posted by npstaehling View Post
    If I can remember how to host the pics I'll post some tomorrow. The blue is a very light feminine baby blue. I was expecting the cyan blue color that is very popular right now. At least that's what the online pics looked like to me. I would have preferred a deeper blue, but it isn't terrible.
    I zip tied a shimano cassette in box for a blue reference if you have any shimano part boxes. You can see it is a very light blue.

    Niner RLT9-ninercolor.jpg

    Here is a pic of a 29X2.25 Schwalbe big apple mounted in the rear. It does spin, but rubs both chainstays. you would not want to ride it with this tire, but it gives an idea of just how much clearance the frame has. The fork has a lot less. The big apple doesn't even come close to mounting up front.

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    i think the blue looks pretty good (based on those last two photos). orange/silver is my favorite personally - hope they bring that back

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    That baby blue looks dope.

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    I am currently on my 3rd RLT RDO Frame set. I have had paint quality control issues with all three. First one right out of the box, sent back. Second frame set had paint coming off in little chunks when tightening down the rear Maxle and Rack Mount bolts. The bike shop torqued down the rear maxle and a chunk of paint came off and when I hand tightened the rack mount to less than 1nm a crack and chunk of paint came off.

    Now on my 3rd frame set that Niner actually built up, but that even had paint issues near the bottom der hanger and rack mount bolts.

    Niner said they have had no other complaints?? But I am batting 100% here with three bad frames.

    Anyone out there having any paint issues with the new RLT RDO near that area?? Looks like over painting. Anyone?!?Niner RLT9-img_7433.jpgNiner RLT9-img_8089.jpgNiner RLT9-img_8113.jpgAttachment 1128804
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    Updated my rlt9 with some more suitable wheels/tires, carbon bar and carbon force cranks

    Had and old set of hope/flows on there and I rebuilt them to hope/pacenti forza/sapim laser


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTCBike View Post
    I am currently on my 3rd RLT RDO Frame set. I have had paint quality control issues with all three. First one right out of the box, sent back. Second frame set had paint coming off in little chunks when tightening down the rear Maxle and Rack Mount bolts. The bike shop torqued down the rear maxle and a chunk of paint came off and when I hand tightened the rack mount to less than 1nm a crack and chunk of paint came off.

    Now on my 3rd frame set that Niner actually built up, but that even had paint issues near the bottom der hanger and rack mount bolts.

    Niner said they have had no other complaints?? But I am batting 100% here with three bad frames.

    Anyone out there having any paint issues with the new RLT RDO near that area?? Looks like over painting. Anyone?!?
    That sucks. Its likely that your frames all came out of the same run so if there is an issue then all frames would likely have the same issue. While not a big deal, especially since it seems like niner is taking care of you, it sure must be frustrating. I would suggest waiting a bit until they have a frame that doesnt have the issue. At least you can still ride and enjoy it in the mean time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleForScience View Post
    That sucks. Its likely that your frames all came out of the same run so if there is an issue then all frames would likely have the same issue. While not a big deal, especially since it seems like niner is taking care of you, it sure must be frustrating. I would suggest waiting a bit until they have a frame that doesnt have the issue. At least you can still ride and enjoy it in the mean time.
    It does suck on a new bike and I sympathize completely but have to say the only one that gives me pause is the chip in the pic below. My experience is that no mater how hard I try to baby my bikes they still end up with chipped paint and scratches everywhere in pretty short order. I'd try to negotiate a price reduction on all other scratches but the one below would be unacceptable.

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    I absolutely wouldn't take that frame. I agree with the above comment though. The other little nicks and things, i could deal with... but that picture of the chip in the paint... not a chance. That's just asking for more problems with chipping and losing paint later on.
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    What is the max clearance on the rlt9 forks?
    Will it accommodate a horizon 650b ??

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    I recently got one of the last few 2016 Aluminum RLT9's available. I ordered the 3 star build through Competitive Cyclist, and the backorder took almost 3 weeks. The day I got it, they pulled it from their site.

    I'm 6'1" and typically like a smaller frame, but opted for the 59cm to get a little more room and less aggressive fit. I'm glad I did, as I feel the bike fits really well. I am trying a 90mm stem but might jump down to an 80mm.

    First impressions have been great. I got about 20 miles of mixed road and crushed limestone in, along with some doubletrack grass walking trails. The bike is comfortable, responsive, and the group performs very well. I'm used to a single speed MTB and a fixed gear track bike so having some extra gears is welcomed, but a bit odd.

    This last weekend I ran a cyclocross race here in IL and had a blast. Mixed terrain, hilly grass and pavement, with a random mound of melting snow to traverse which created quite a few spots of mud. The bike performed great, but the stock tires definitely struggled as the mud got thicker and the snow got softer (I managed to successfully ride down the pile 3 out of 4 laps, with one nutcase on the high standover top tube).

    Overall I'm very impressed. For $2k I feel like it's a lot of bike. Should do everything I'm looking to do and give me a good platform to upgrade and tweak as my needs change
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    Received my RLT Steel 4 Star build last week and she is a beaut! Really nice looking bike. Tapered head tube looks a little funky with the skinny steel tubing....but I totally get the function over form decision there.

    I am a little over 6'1" and the 59cm is a perfect fit. As far as comfort and ride quality goes, I am impressed. Always loved the way steel rides. The Ultegra group has been flawless and so smooth.

    My only pet peeve is that the Niner carbon hoops are not designed to be tubeless. In speaking with Niner directly, they hemmed and hawed that while folks have been successful converting, there are no guarantees! Put some Stans tape, valves and some Orange seal and so far so good....but damn that seems like a miss on a $1500 wheelset. Fingers crossed.

    This is the first time I have ever upgraded to a heavier bike (replaced Scott Addict).....but 100 miles in all feels right and psyched for some summer adventures.

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    Nice!
    That 4 star steel RLT is in serious contention for my next bike. Good to know about the wheels not being specifically tubeless.

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ YetiMan View Post
    Received my RLT Steel 4 Star build last week and she is a beaut! Really nice looking bike. Tapered head tube looks a little funky with the skinny steel tubing....but I totally get the function over form decision there.

    I am a little over 6'1" and the 59cm is a perfect fit. As far as comfort and ride quality goes, I am impressed. Always loved the way steel rides. The Ultegra group has been flawless and so smooth.

    My only pet peeve is that the Niner carbon hoops are not designed to be tubeless. In speaking with Niner directly, they hemmed and hawed that while folks have been successful converting, there are no guarantees! Put some Stans tape, valves and some Orange seal and so far so good....but damn that seems like a miss on a $1500 wheelset. Fingers crossed.

    This is the first time I have ever upgraded to a heavier bike (replaced Scott Addict).....but 100 miles in all feels right and psyched for some summer adventures.

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    I just built up the RLT RDO in Blaze Yellow, while the paint looks fragile I have not had chipping issues like what you are experiencing though.

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    The paint on my first rlt9rdo frame could be scratched off with my fingernails. Seatstays by the niner. Asked for a price reductions but it was so small I asked for a second frame. My second frame does not have paint scratched off directly out of the box, but it looks and feels pretty fragile around the the same area. Hopefully I don't have the chip problems. I have the Blaze Yellow and the color of paint is no where near the pictures on Niners site or in the internet, it is more green or neon green, like a safety vest. Oh well, if it rides and fits like I expect it to I can always get it repainted the way I want.

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    Interested, the RLT steel may be my next road bike. I've been rocking a 1985 schwinn super le tour steel bike with friction shifters for the last 3 years.

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    Just ordered the RLT9 steel frame yesterday. Should be here on tuesday.
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    Just got the 1 star Tiagra build! Looking forward to cruising this thing as it will be my everyday, bike path, ride with the kids, utility bike.
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    For anyone that is interested I may be selling my barely used Green 2016 59cm RLT 9 Frame and fork. It is in perfect conduit with only 10 or so rides. It has also been protected with from day 1 with 3m tape. PM if interested, pics coming soon.

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    Niner RLT9

    I'm 5 foot 9.5 inches or 176.5cm tall and looking at an RLT 9 alloy.
    I run a 74.5cm saddle height from the BB to the top-centre of the saddle.
    While the recommended sizing points to a 56cm, this would only leave 15cm of seatpost showing (centre of rails to the frame) - doesn't seem like much to me.
    The other issue is that I can only get a 56cm RLT where I live.
    So, is there anyone else in the 5' 9" range on a 56cm RLT?
    How does it look and ride?
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    I'm 177 cm and on a 53. Better to deal with reach by changing stem length and have a reasonable amount of post showing to help smooth out the bumps.

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    ^I know every scenario is different, but I just got my 1 star and went with 59cm. Every bike I have had to this point is XL in size. The geometry of the RLT is different and I actually went 59 rather than 62. Glad I did.
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    Hey guys, I am looking at getting something flat mount... and the RLT has been on my lust list for a while. Why flat mount? Campy disc... must try. Must sell whatever I need to to make this happen.

    So, my current road bike is a Lynskey R150 disc, with Shimano hydro components and the rest 105. Great bike, rides nice, LOVE disc brakes, but have been less than happy with my tubeless luck on pavement here in Boise, and refuse to go back to tubes. So, rather than just upgrade to the now flat mount R250, which is still an option, I am strongly considering getting an RLT and running some 35c Shwabble G One's (which I already have from a now dismantled Traitor Wander). My thinking is that with an RLT steel and wider, slightly dirt oriented tires, I may have better puncture luck, and I'll be able to safely explore those long gravel trails I ride past frequently. From the brief spell I spent on the Wander with the G one's, I noticed little, if any, difference in speed on pavement, but I did hit some singletrack and enjoy it, so from what I know, this seems like a logical idea.

    Anyone have any feedback? I'm hoping the switch to an adv bike won't leave me feeling empty without a dedicated roadie, plus I could always throw on some skinnies and it should ride ok, right?

    One extra bit of info, I am also considering the Rodeo Labs Flaanimal, however the link to the bike was broken last I checked. Would save al ittle money, but the HT* gets a little slack for my liking, and this will be mostly used on pavement to get to the dirt, or just for road rides.

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    Very happy with my 1x conversion, will be doing a 350mi bikepacking trip this weekend on it. Should be a great shakedown run.Niner RLT9-fullsizerender.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHubTDI View Post
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    I assume they're SRAM cranks but what type of direct mount chainring (and how many teeth) are you running?

    Also curious about your rims - what brand/model are they?

    Neat looking setup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHwick View Post

    Also curious about your rims - what brand/model are they?

    Neat looking setup!
    H Plus Son The Hydra 700C Rims, i assume.
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    Correct, they are H Plus Sons The Hydra laced to straight pull DT240s. It's been a rainy mess here in the Midwest since I've finished it up so I can't comment much on my impression yet.

    The cranks are SRAM "Red" Quarq arms with a Garbaruk Components 46T round ring. Should give me a pretty good range with a 10-42 cassette.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHubTDI View Post
    Correct, they are H Plus Sons The Hydra laced to straight pull DT240s. It's been a rainy mess here in the Midwest since I've finished it up so I can't comment much on my impression yet.

    The cranks are SRAM "Red" Quarq arms with a Garbaruk Components 46T round ring. Should give me a pretty good range with a 10-42 cassette.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.
    Cool, I like the look of the chainring. May go for a similar setup myself.
    Are they the BB30 cranks or 24mm GXP version with an adaptor BB?

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    BB30/PF30 or "long axle" BB30, essentially they're Force1 cranks.

    I'll warn you it takes FOREVER to get these chainrings, I think close to a month. They're made in the Ukraine, I think, but they're really light and great quality. They have super long teeth as well so chain retention shouldn't ever be a problem.

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    Niner RLT9-1a.jpg

    Just (re)built up my previously 4-Star SRAM RLT 9 as a "6-Star" Shimano RLT 9 -- XTR Di2 rear derailleur. absoluteBLACK oval. Dura-Ace crankset. Ultegra hydraulics.

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    Shameless plug: it's also for sale. Going to stick with my BSB 9 w/ SRAM Force 1 groupset.

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    What size frame, I have a buddy who may be looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    What size frame, I have a buddy who may be looking.
    59cm. All the details here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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    Got it

    First two pics, try to get better on thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dooley242 View Post
    First two pics, try to get better on thursday.

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    Nice. I know these things aren't made to be the lightest, but curious what the weight is on your rig?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dooley242 View Post
    First two pics, try to get better on thursday.

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    Freaking gorgeous. Dream bike right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrich88 View Post
    Nice. I know these things aren't made to be the lightest, but curious what the weight is on your rig?
    Weight is 10,67kg without bottle.
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    RLT9 RDO carbon frame - chipping off

    Hi.

    I also have the same issue now with my newly built RLT RDO. The rack mount bolt area in the rear triangle also had paint chipping off. LBS looked at it and said this is not a structural problem, and only cosmetic. But it's not good really. I'm sure that this problem will progress further.

    I think the carbon frame fitted out with rack mounts in the rear triangle part is not as sturdy as the one on the steel frame. I'm also afraid that the bolt hole threading will give out soon.

    Although in all fairness the bike is great and I'm enjoying it a lot. But it's quite a bummer when your high expectations are dampened with these kind of an issue.

    And just merely replacing the frame on warranty will not solve the problem as I'm sure same problem will occur in the same replacement frame.

    Not sure how Niner will address this complaint now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fat_tires_are_fun View Post
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    ^I know every scenario is different, but I just got my 1 star and went with 59cm. Every bike I have had to this point is XL in size. The geometry of the RLT is different and I actually went 59 rather than 62. Glad I did.
    How are you liking your 1*? I should be picking mine up in a day or two.
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    Can we join the group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chemtrailsniffer View Post
    Great looking bike! Love the wheels. What handlebars are those...Cowbells? And, are those lights mounted on either side of the stem?




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    Quote Originally Posted by chemtrailsniffer View Post
    Thanks!

    Here's mine...out this morning for a quick one before the rain moves in.




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    Hey AVL- what kind of top tube bag is that? Do you like it? Looking for one for my RLT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzb View Post
    Hey AVL- what kind of top tube bag is that? Do you like it? Looking for one for my RLT.
    It's the Topeak Fast Fuel bag. I like it a lot. It's small, but perfect for the RLT. Holds iPhone 7, keys, and several bars or gels easily.

    https://www.topeak.com/global/en/pro...astfuel-tribag

    I had a difficult time finding one. None of my local bike shops could order one even though they sell other Topeak items. I ended up ordering from Ebay. I use a Revelate Gas Tank and Oveja Negra Snack Pack on my bike packing rigs, but I wanted something smaller for the RLT. This bag works perfectly!
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    Thanks. I've been thinking about the Revelate Mag Tank, but the Topeak may be a better size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzb View Post
    Thanks. I've been thinking about the Revelate Mag Tank, but the Topeak may be a better size.
    Yea, the Revelate is BIG. Unless you need the storage, I'd look for something smaller. It looked somewhat out of place on the RLT.


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    Been collecting parts for a while and finally pulled this together.
    RLT RDO (56cm) with Force 1X, Bontrager XC wheels and 40mm tyres. Complete build is 7.9kg with pedals.






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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Seems pricey. 2000.00 for a bike with 105 and Tiagra parts?

    You can get a 11sp Ultegra level CAADX for 2170.00?

    http://www.cannondale.com/catalog/pr.../category/916/
    If CaadX gave me fork lugs I'd be all over it. If the Cannondale Slate had better options for fenders, or even a Lugged rigid fork option I'd be all over it.
    As in I don't race gravel. I want to ride gravel with the options for adding fenders, and adding some bags or water to my Fork.
    So here I am looking at Niner RLT.
    I also want a somewhat lively bike when ridden with out the overnight stuff on it.
    Thus I am probably going to lean more towards the RLT RDO.

    Trust me I really want a Cannondale Slate, its not practical for what I want. n+1, that don't work in a class B RV. Pull a trailer...annoying. I'd go class A before pulling a trailer full of bikes.
    I figure I've room for 2 bikes.... my hi-mod supersix, and a niner RLT, already bummed at leaving the 29er at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVLthumper View Post
    Thanks!

    Here's mine...out this morning for a quick one before the rain moves in.




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    That white and orange is one of the best looking frames I've seen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heybrady View Post
    That white and orange is one of the best looking frames I've seen.


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    That colorway as well as the same years green one are two of my favorite designs and colorways ever created (I made 'em). Can't say I'm in love with any of the newer ones though :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truckee Trash View Post
    That colorway as well as the same years green one are two of my favorite designs and colorways ever created (I made 'em). Can't say I'm in love with any of the newer ones though :/
    'Made' as in 'created'? If so, well done. A+.

    I also like the Tiagra build gray frame. Just wish it had TA's

    Now if I could only find a very lightly used 59 in orange


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    Yeah I really like the orange/white. I have the steel grey/blue color which I love as well, but not quite as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heybrady View Post
    That white and orange is one of the best looking frames I've seen.


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    I agree! Every time I walk past it in the garage, it catches my eye. Never really liked white bikes, but this frame color/design is beautiful.


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    Love my RLT 9 but moving on to something different. If anyone wants a lightly used green RLT 9 frame and fork in size 59cm, excellent condition, please PM me.

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    RLT Steel vs RDO

    Anyone have saddle time between the RLT Steel and RDO Carbon? I've got the steel but I've been eyeing the carbon. Maybe because all three bikes I own are steel and I'm getting the itch. But really I don't have a compelling reason to change.

    Maybe you guys can help come up with some?

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    Can I join the club?!? I just picked up a 56cm RLT9 Steel 3 star today after ordering it almost 3 weeks ago and love it so far. I am:

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    I tested it on a few steep hills and it climbs very easily without having to bring it all the way down the gears. Tomorrow will be the real test though commuting with it loaded.

    It shifts very quickly and precisely with the SRAM Rival. The whole bike it just easy to get going, and keep it going. Here are pics of it naked after spending all day going crazy with helicopter tape , more pics tomorrow with it loaded.

    Can anyone recommend fenders that fit well, and what tire pressure for mostly road commute, but 1 mile of rough dirt terrain (no rocks, but small bumps)?














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    Quote Originally Posted by lmike6453 View Post
    Can I join the club?!? I just picked up a 56cm RLT9 Steel 3 star today after ordering it almost 3 weeks ago and love it so far. I am:

    6'0
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    I tested it on a few steep hills and it climbs very easily without having to bring it all the way down the gears. Tomorrow will be the real test though commuting with it loaded.

    It shifts very quickly and precisely with the SRAM Rival. The whole bike it just easy to get going, and keep it going. Here are pics of it naked after spending all day going crazy with helicopter tape , more pics tomorrow with it loaded.

    Can anyone recommend fenders that fit well, and what tire pressure for mostly road commute, but 1 mile of rough dirt terrain (no rocks, but small bumps)?













    I ordered Portland Design Works fenders after reading raving reviews but can cancel my Amazon order if something is better. I had to order something to prevent wet butt and face!

    https://ridepdw.com/collections/fend...-metal-fenders

    They also have these cheaper version but I opted for full metal.

    https://ridepdw.com/collections/fend...o-fenders-city


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    Can I safely raise the stem height to raise the handlebars with spacers? Steel version with carbon fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmike6453 View Post
    Can I safely raise the stem height to raise the handlebars with spacers? Steel version with carbon fork.
    It looks like you're maxed out on the stem spacers so you'll need to go with a higher rise stem as you mentioned. No problem with doing that. Just follow the torque recommendation when clamping the stem (I use 5nm).

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    My RLT Steel build. 56cm frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmike6453 View Post
    Can I safely raise the stem height to raise the handlebars with spacers? Steel version with carbon fork.
    Echoing RacerLex, no room for more spacers, so you'll need a steeper stem to get the handlebar higher. I think the Niner stem is -8/+8 (82/98).

    Salsa has a couple steeper than that. Other companies offer them too, but I'm not sure exactly what they have.

    Guide Stem | Salsa Cycles

    Another option is a drop bar with some rise, but I don't think those are very common. Specialized sells that type of drop bar, no idea who else does.

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/eq...5mmrise/133188

    Here's a nifty website that lets you tinker with headtube angle, stem angle, stem length, and spacer height to see how changes affect things.

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    Do the RLT 9 Steel frames typically go on sale..ever? Have y'all seen like black friday or end of year type of sales on these things? I am after a steel 56 frame this winter for a build. Would love to get one now but can't swing the $1500 msrp on frameset.

    thx - great looking bikes all. Really love the idea of these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    It looks like you're maxed out on the stem spacers so you'll need to go with a higher rise stem as you mentioned. No problem with doing that. Just follow the torque recommendation when clamping the stem (I use 5nm).
    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    Echoing RacerLex, no room for more spacers, so you'll need a steeper stem to get the handlebar higher. I think the Niner stem is -8/+8 (82/98).

    Salsa has a couple steeper than that. Other companies offer them too, but I'm not sure exactly what they have.

    Guide Stem | Salsa Cycles

    Another option is a drop bar with some rise, but I don't think those are very common. Specialized sells that type of drop bar, no idea who else does.

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/eq...5mmrise/133188

    Here's a nifty website that lets you tinker with headtube angle, stem angle, stem length, and spacer height to see how changes affect things.

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    Thank you for the detailed information. I took some close up pics of the stem. Before I try, I don't have one more spacer here? Or is it part of the stem "cap"?

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    That spacer above the stem is not recommended when using a Niner carbon fork. The stem must clamp the area reinforced by the compression adjustment plug.

    Having said that, I've seen many bikes setup like this. Plus you need to play around with the spacers to adjust the stem height before you commit to cutting the fork's steerer tube. So it think it's ok to have spacers above the stem for a short period of time.

    So you could take the spacer that's above the stem and install it below. The top cap would be installed directly on top of the stem.

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    The only time I noticed it on sale was when the white/red color scheme from a couple of years ago was replaced with the grey/orange. It wasn't a huge discount and it happened a couple of years after its release.

    I've been eyeing the RLT RDO carbon frame and haven't seen it on sale since it was released. I'm going to wait until black Friday/cyber Monday and see if they come on sale. Won't be holding my breath though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmike6453 View Post
    Thank you for the detailed information. I took some close up pics of the stem. Before I try, I don't have one more spacer here?
    Yes, you're correct. You can move that spacer to under the stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    Yes, you're correct. You can move that spacer to under the stem.
    No, that's all one piece, it's not a spacer. It's the stem cap, it cannot be moved under the stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibadfish View Post
    No, that's all one piece, it's not a spacer. It's the stem cap, it cannot be moved under the stem.
    The part with a 9 on it looks like a spacer to me. The top cap that came with my RDO 29er fork looks like the part above that spacer. There even appears to be what I assume is carbon fiber assembly paste squeezing out between the top cap and that spacer.

    You sure that's all one piece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    The only time I noticed it on sale was when the white/red color scheme from a couple of years ago was replaced with the grey/orange. It wasn't a huge discount and it happened a couple of years after its release.

    I've been eyeing the RLT RDO carbon frame and haven't seen it on sale since it was released. I'm going to wait until black Friday/cyber Monday and see if they come on sale. Won't be holding my breath though.
    Right on. Best I can see if they don't have a sale is waiting till Jenson or Competitive have a 15% active junky day, which has happened a couple times in the past few months. Would at least ease the burden.

    Wheel parts coming in this month so I gotta build them up then hunt for the frame. Yee haaaaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    That spacer above the stem is not recommended when using a Niner carbon fork. The stem must clamp the area reinforced by the compression adjustment plug.

    Having said that, I've seen many bikes setup like this. Plus you need to play around with the spacers to adjust the stem height before you commit to cutting the fork's steerer tube. So it think it's ok to have spacers above the stem for a short period of time.

    So you could take the spacer that's above the stem and install it below. The top cap would be installed directly on top of the stem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    Yes, you're correct. You can move that spacer to under the stem.
    Quote Originally Posted by ibadfish View Post
    No, that's all one piece, it's not a spacer. It's the stem cap, it cannot be moved under the stem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    The part with a 9 on it looks like a spacer to me. The top cap that came with my RDO 29er fork looks like the part above that spacer. There even appears to be what I assume is carbon fiber assembly paste squeezing out between the top cap and that spacer.

    You sure that's all one piece?
    Thanks guys. Luckily I will receive my torque wrench in the mail today and will see if it is a spacer.

    I will especially want to move it now knowing that it shouldn't be on top. Good thing the bike is newer and catching this now rather than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibadfish View Post
    No, that's all one piece, it's not a spacer. It's the stem cap, it cannot be moved under the stem.
    That's a spacer under the Niner YAWYD top cap. It is not one piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Right on. Best I can see if they don't have a sale is waiting till Jenson or Competitive have a 15% active junky day, which has happened a couple times in the past few months. Would at least ease the burden.

    Wheel parts coming in this month so I gotta build them up then hunt for the frame. Yee haaaaw

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    Do it - the steel frame is timeless. I've owned carbon frames and I never keep them for long (though they do call out the weight weenie in me).

    I really wish Niner designed the steel frame (all frames really) with a threaded bottom bracket instead of the press fit. That's my only gripe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmike6453 View Post
    Thanks guys. Luckily I will receive my torque wrench in the mail today and will see if it is a spacer.

    I will especially want to move it now knowing that it shouldn't be on top. Good thing the bike is newer and catching this now rather than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    That's a spacer under the Niner YAWYD top cap. It is not one piece.
    I just did it tonight and everything lined up and torqued down great. Can't wait to enjoy the slightly higher handlebars now.

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    Does anyone know the spoke nipple size for the Stans Grail rims that come with the RLT 9 steel?

    Trying to make sure all my spokes are tight on a newer bike making sounds from the rear. Just bought a tension gauge.

    I think it's these rims:
    https://www.notubes.com/grail-rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    That's a spacer under the Niner YAWYD top cap. It is not one piece.
    Yup my bad.
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    Niner RLT builds refreshed

    Looks like Niner just refreshed the RLT builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    Looks like Niner just refreshed the RLT builds.

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    Interesting. I can't tell if all of those bullet points are good or bad things though.

    The chain ring going from 36t to 34t gives more of a granny gear for climbs. Although the other going from 46t to 50t probably wouldn't benefit me much since I don't max out my cadence in the highest gear on a downhill.

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    Yeah, I'm not sure either. I've got a 1x setup on my RLT and don't see myself going to 2x ever again. Too bad Niner removed the 1x option.

    I'm really surprised to see they went with Centerlock rotors only. I'm considering a carbon wheelset for the RLT and was set on going with 6-bolt hubs. After reading this I thought maybe I should switch to Centerlock. But with Santa Cruz's new Reserve wheelsets using 6-bolt, I'm feeling more comfortable with the 6-bolt option over Centerlock.

    The rest of the items are definitely pluses IMO - even the little bar end plugs! Mine were prone to pop-out so I wrapped the inserts with electrical tape to keep them a bit more secured.

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    Snagged a RLT Steel frame back in July after much research and inspiration from this thread, an absolute blast to ride.

    Curious whats the biggest 650b someones squeezes into the frame, ive seen a few 2 Maxxis Refuse builds, nothing higher or more knobby

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    Snagged a RLT Steel frame back in July after much research and inspiration from this thread, an absolute blast to ride.

    Curious whats the biggest 650b someones squeezes into the frame, ive seen a few 2 Maxxis Refuse builds, nothing higher or more knobby
    Looks great! Ive got one of the white/orange alloy ones. Bike has been fantastic and rides excellent. I hope you enjoy it.


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    That steel looks great

    Side note, has anyone ridden the alloy models with and without the thru axle? Interested in a build up of a used frame and was curious if the TA is worth it on these bikes


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    Quote Originally Posted by heybrady View Post
    That steel looks great

    Side note, has anyone ridden the alloy models with and without the thru axle? Interested in a build up of a used frame and was curious if the TA is worth it on these bikes

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    That steel frame is quite handsome. I bought the first iteration of the RLT9 (alloy) back in 2013? I've ridden it as a commuter, gravel grinder and on bike packing expeditions. My frame has quick release and I have no complaints. If I had to pick one bike (shudder) for the deserted island, this is the one.
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    For perspective Clint Gibbs gave up his Aluminum RLT for a steel RTL because the AL was harsh. he has since given up his Steel RLT for a carbon RTL RDO because the steel was too limp.
    Personally I'll never buy/invest in another disc brake 9mm QR bike! well I shouldn't say never, we all have budgets! Times are changing I am guessing that 'soon' in the gravel/CX world 9mm QR wheel choices will be like trying to find a decent 26" MTB tires. choices will be slim. A Dead market! How long will the market supply 9mm QR end caps?
    My personal experience with 9mm QR vs thru axle, night and day difference. Take note it was different bikes, however it's been multiple bikes with the winner always being thru axle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclinglymie View Post
    9mm QR wheel choices will be like trying to find a decent 26" MTB tires. choices will be slim. A Dead market! How long will the market supply 9mm QR end caps?
    Sadly, in the Euro market, there will probably always be 26" tires as the Brits & Germans still find anything larger to be weird and refer to it as a trend.... 15 years later.

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    Spacer Limit

    Just a heads up, I emailed Niner and asked specifically what the spacer limit is for a Niner RLT 9 Steel. Response was "We recommend no more than 40mm between the top of the headset dust cap and the bottom of the stem. You should be fine at 30mm." Just a heads up because I was searching for that on here for a good while and came across a lot of info, but no clear answer.

    Some of you cats have your spacers a liiiiittle too high, friends.

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    I just purchased a brand new Niner RLT 9 Steel and really like it so far. I received a Topeak Explorer Disc rack as a gift and when trying to mount it discovered that the top seat stay braze on's are two wide for the included steel mounting brackets. Does anyone have a solution? If not, has anyone put a rack on this bike and if so what rack was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3jmann View Post
    I just purchased a brand new Niner RLT 9 Steel and really like it so far. I received a Topeak Explorer Disc rack as a gift and when trying to mount it discovered that the top seat stay braze on's are two wide for the included steel mounting brackets. Does anyone have a solution? If not, has anyone put a rack on this bike and if so what rack was it?
    I have an AL RLT9 and have a Blackburn Outpost rack. It is beefy and super lightweight. I do not have braze-ons on my seat stays and use the single mount at the brake bridge. There are a few other options I could also use with clamps that would allow me to use the seat stays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o2dazone View Post

    Curious whats the biggest 650b someones squeezes into the frame, ive seen a few 2 Maxxis Refuse builds, nothing higher or more knobby
    I talked to Niner about this recently as I too was interested - was told a 650b x 47mm is the widest recommended.

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    Nice bike! Picked up one of my own and love it so far.

    What tires and wheel size are you running? How do you like your setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by AVLthumper View Post
    Looks great! Ive got one of the white/orange alloy ones. Bike has been fantastic and rides excellent. I hope you enjoy it.


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    RLT 9 Alloy in Brazil

    Hi guys! FabioTux here!

    I just bought a RLT 9 Alloy equipped with Tiagra 4700 and Hydraulic Disc Brakes.

    Maaaaan...what a bike!

    I rode something like 27 miles two weeks ago...I felt impressed.

    The bicycle is very responsive, confortable (for a aluminun bike), with a very well thought geometry.

    I'm planning to ride it in my next trip to Peru (Cordillera Blanca) with 27,5 x 2,2" wheels/tires...

    Let me show you some shots of this beauty in action:


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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiotux View Post
    Hi guys! FabioTux here!

    I just bought a RLT 9 Alloy equipped with Tiagra 4700 and Hydraulic Disc Brakes.

    Maaaaan...what a bike!

    I rode something like 27 miles two weeks ago...I felt impressed.

    The bicycle is very responsive, confortable (for a aluminun bike), with a very well thought geometry.

    I'm planning to ride it in my next trip to Peru (Cordillera Blanca) with 27,5 x 2,2" wheels/tires...

    Let me show you some shots of this beauty in action:


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    Nice rig, man! Interested in your thoughts on the G Ones. Also, what bars are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    Nice rig, man! Interested in your thoughts on the G Ones. Also, what bars are those?

    Thanks kragu!
    I intent to ride a little bit more this weekend. After that I can give you my two cents on the tires.

    About the handlebar, it's an Easton EA 50-AX size 44 (C-to-C):
    https://www.eastoncycling.com/products/details/ea50-ax

    Easton EA50 Road Handlebar | Jenson USA

    Nice bars...I loved the flare and the drop, that is compact...
    There is a carbon fiber version...EA70, I think, but even the aluminiun one seemed quite lightweight to me...

    See ya!

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    fabio how do you like the Tiagra groupset with hydro brakes?

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    Hi tdilf!

    The brakes are very responsive and the brake power seems adequate. I could descend on rough terrains with a little more confidence now.

    The shifters works pretty well. They are very precise, working like a clock (if well adjusted).

    One downside of new Tiagra Groupset is that you can't use MTB rear mechs with them...only Tiagra 10s or other road mechs with 11s.

    As mentioned on shimano's manual, the rear mech can reach 34T (but there are some guys using 36T).

    Well...I thought it wasn't sufficient to do ciclotouring, so I bought a rear mech extender (like WolfTooth, but Made in Brazil). With it, I can use a 11/40T 10s cassette with 50/34T crankset, working like a charm!

    BTW, with that setup, I'm using 27,5"x 2.0" wheels/tires, to improve confort and the capability to climb steeper hills, even when fully loaded.

    I guess that's it!

    See ya, guys!

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    fabio how do you like the Tiagra groupset with hydro brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailwerks View Post
    I haven't received my 2 star build yet so I can't weigh myself. Has anyone weighed the stock 2* build wheelset?

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    I've been searching the whole thread for an answer, but does anyone know the answer to this? These were the 17.7 inner diameter aluminum niner wheels that used to come on the 2 start build.

    I have the 2 star build from 2016 and am thinking about upgrades. I now have the BB7 brakes and carbon bars/post. Thinking about a wider / lighter (well we'll see) wheelset?

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    hello, just "upgraded" the carbon fork to a Lauf Grit to see how it feels... added some Gravel Kings 700x40...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiotux View Post
    Hi tdilf!

    The brakes are very responsive and the brake power seems adequate. I could descend on rough terrains with a little more confidence now.

    The shifters works pretty well. They are very precise, working like a clock (if well adjusted).

    One downside of new Tiagra Groupset is that you can't use MTB rear mechs with them...only Tiagra 10s or other road mechs with 11s.

    As mentioned on shimano's manual, the rear mech can reach 34T (but there are some guys using 36T).

    Well...I thought it wasn't sufficient to do ciclotouring, so I bought a rear mech extender (like WolfTooth, but Made in Brazil). With it, I can use a 11/40T 10s cassette with 50/34T crankset, working like a charm!

    BTW, with that setup, I'm using 27,5"x 2.0" wheels/tires, to improve confort and the capability to climb steeper hills, even when fully loaded.

    I guess that's it!

    See ya, guys!
    Mmm, sorry, the Schwable G-One doesn't come in 27.5x2.0. There's 1.5 and 2.2. Can you possibly give a little detail and shots of the wheel/tire combo and the fit on bike? I'm searching for 650b wheel sets and tire combo for mountain tackling and would love to see what the boundaries are before going for it. Thanks!

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    Hi everyone, I just purchased my first RLT! It's one of the original orange and grey steel frames and I can't wait to get it set up and on the road/gravel.

    Unfortunately the fork is QR and doesn't have the bottle bosses with it. I'm wondering if anyone has the orange model fork with the bottle bosses that isn't using theirs and would want to sell it? I'd also be willing to trade for mine and include some cash. Mine is a 59cm but I'm not sure of the steerer length.

    I've been enjoying reading through the forum. Keep it up! I'll post pics when mine arrives.

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    Looking to possibly run XTR cranks on my RLT9 Steel. Anyone try this? Currently have 105 cranks on the bike (came stock). I'm an experienced mtb rider, but strangely have never really run Shimano, so I'm not sure what's incompatible.

    TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    Looking to possibly run XTR cranks on my RLT9 Steel. Anyone try this? Currently have 105 cranks on the bike (came stock). I'm an experienced mtb rider, but strangely have never really run Shimano, so I'm not sure what's incompatible.

    TIA!
    It will work but the q-factor will be wider. It might not be as big a deal to us MTB riders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    It will work but the q-factor will be wider. It might be as big a deal to us MTB riders.
    It may be an issue if you plan on running Brifters as the chainlines are different for Shimano road and mountain cranksets. I think but am not sure that the chainline can be addressed by switching the bottom bracket spacers but don't hold me to that one.

    https://sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html

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    If you have a derailleur then youre going to be using a not so perfect chainline. Youll have to singlespeed to experience the beauty of a perfect chainline. :-D

    Ive mixed cranksets and cassettes from different manufactures (Sram, Shimano, Raceface, Stylo, FSA) and its worked for me with 11 speed cassettes and 1x crankset. You can run into issues with some frames when you mix in front derailleurs (3x especially) but I dont think the RLT will have a problem. Its already using MTB 12x142 rear spacing.

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    Double post, sorry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    If you have a derailleur then youre going to be using a not so perfect chainline. Youll have to singlespeed to experience the beauty of a perfect chainline. :-D

    Ive mixed cranksets and cassettes from different manufactures (Sram, Shimano, Raceface, Stylo, FSA) and its worked for me with 11 speed cassettes and 1x crankset. You can run into issues with some frames when you mix in front derailleurs (3x especially) but I dont think the RLT will have a problem. Its already using MTB 12x142 rear spacing.
    Understood, but my point though maybe not so clear is that 3 or 4mm difference in chainline makes a huge difference with the front derailleur, a road front derailleur is made to be a few mm closer to the centerline of the frame than a MTB derailleur, also the pull ratio is different for MTB and Road front Derailleurs so a road front derailleur must be used. I tried it once many years ago and was unhappy with the shifting, to get to the big ring on my triple the FD had to be set at its outermost limit and it was barely enough to get the chain on the biggest chainring and upshifts were spotty at best. In the end my solution was to run a sub compact Sugino crankset with 46/30 chain rings and a 11-36 cassette instead.

    As an aside, I've researched trying this with a triple a few times and found a couple of potential options, though I'm unwilling to gamble having already sold off the MTB crankset from my first failed attempt. Those are, Sram makes a "wide spacing" braze on adapter that moves the FD a couple mm out from the CL of the frame and also supposedly older Tiagra 9sp FD's work well with the smaller chainrings.

    OP if you try this let us know how it works out for you...

    I can't understand how there is no market for a little lower gearing on drop bar bikes...

    edit: wide spacing link FYI... https://www.amazon.com/SRAM-Mountain.../dp/B00NVLPELA

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    This is my RDO

    You can see more of the bike and the parts list at https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/niner-rlt-9-rdo-33084

    The entire build was documented at https://www.bikeforums.net/cyclocros...rdo-build.html.

    It's running Ultegra compact cranks with SRAM PG-1170 (Force) 11-36 cassette, GS derailleur and no Wolftooth. The B screw is cranked all the way but it shifts fine. I crosschain the crud out of it.

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    unable to completely delete my post so see 2nd post

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    Quote Originally Posted by edthesped View Post

    I can't understand how there is no market for a little lower gearing on drop bar bikes...
    For a little lower gearing on drop bar bikes, check out the Juniors Solution by WickWerks: https://wickwerks.com/the-junior-solution/

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    It's been a couple month project but I just finished this tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwah View Post
    It's been a couple month project but I just finished this tonight.

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    Sweet build, not much I would change (Im sure youre swaping out that lime green RDO seatpost for red).

    Weight weenies want to know what it weighs as shown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    Im sure youre swaping out that lime green RDO seatpost for red

    Weight weenies want to know what it weighs as shown!
    18 pounds dead. Not too concerned about the green post. Got the post and stem on sale from Niner. They only had the green post at the time but I'm ok with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwah View Post
    18 pounds dead. Not too concerned about the green post. Got the post and stem on sale from Niner. They only had the green post at the time but I'm ok with it.
    I did the same, my thought process was as follows... $99 for a green CF seatpost or $199 for an identical seatpost except in red or gray... Hmmm, how often do I see the color of my seatpost when I'm riding?? Green it is... Sorry to say you aren't the only one sporting an ugly green seatpost on your new RDO.

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    RLT - Bottom Bracket Update

    Looks like Niner updated the bottom bracket cups for all RLT Shimano crankset builds. The PF30 bottom bracket now comes with "PRESTINE THREAD-TOGETHER PF30 TO 24MM ALLOY". Sounds like these are similar to the Wheels Mfg PF30 threaded bottom brackets.

    Are RLT owners experiencing creaking issues with their PF30? RLT Sram builds are still using Sram PF30 bottom brackets.

    I've never heard of the Prestine brand but their bottom brackets are ~$20 on eBay.

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    Hello,

    im about to buy a niner rlt steel. Since I live in Germany, there is no chance to testride one. Im 190,5 cm tall, my inseam is 91,5 cm. In my opinion, its a pretty tall frame, so should I go with frame size 59 or 62 cm?

    Thank you for your reply, Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksin View Post
    Hello,

    im about to buy a niner rlt steel. Since I live in Germany, there is no chance to testride one. Im 190,5 cm tall, my inseam is 91,5 cm. In my opinion, its a pretty tall frame, so should I go with frame size 59 or 62 cm?

    Thank you for your reply, Michael
    I am 6'2" (189cm I think that is) and I am looking at a 59. Generally speaking the 62 will be too big. The Niner site shows a 59 fitting up to 190cm or 6'3"

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    https://geometrygeeks.bike/bike/niner-rlt-9/

    Standover for the 62cm RLT9 frame is 86.7 cm.

    Always go for the biggest frame that'll fit you. It'll be more stable on long treks, cornering, and downhill. Bear in mind that road geometry specs a much shorter top tube than what you have on your mountain bike. A 62cm RLT9 has a TT about the same link as a size Small moutain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerLex View Post
    Looks like Niner updated the bottom bracket cups for all RLT Shimano crankset builds. The PF30 bottom bracket now comes with "PRESTINE THREAD-TOGETHER PF30 TO 24MM ALLOY". Sounds like these are similar to the Wheels Mfg PF30 threaded bottom brackets.

    Are RLT owners experiencing creaking issues with their PF30? RLT Sram builds are still using Sram PF30 bottom brackets.

    I've never heard of the Prestine brand but their bottom brackets are ~$20 on eBay.
    PRESTINE 元珹工*有限公司

    Similar to Praxis conversion, Enduro Torqtite and Wheels MFG screw together solutions.

    https://praxiscycles.com/bottom-brackets/conversion-bb/

    https://www.endurobearingsonline.com...s/torqtite-bbs

    https://wheelsmfg.com/pressfit-30-to...ano-black.html

    I'm running Enduro Torqtite. Just slide it into the hole, screw it together with two Shimano bottom bracket tools and done. Two minutes, if that. Nothing needs to be pressed. Enduro makes a version for 30 mm crank spindles (SRAM) as well.

    Praxis is lighter and cheaper than Enduro but more complex - o-rings, compression collet, etc.

    Wheels Mfg is new to the screw together game and I wasn't aware that they had anything in this space until I saw them now.

    I don't know anything about Pristine other than it exists and is the same idea.

    Niner RLT9-enduro.torqtite.bb.011.sm.jpg


    -Tim-

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    New question here.

    Hello RTL9 section,

    I build my new Niner RTL9 Steel.

    I would like to have opinions on two rims (32 spokes). But above all, some info about me: these rims will be used to travel a few months (max 110kg weighed all over), and also to make gravel (leight these times). I wish I could fit tires of 28mm (road period, I like the road) and otherwise about 40mm when the path is planned (or 45-47mm but I do not have the experience yet, so it's not easy to pronounce, I also like adventure).

    I'm not very fast, nor very powerful, but I have enough perseverance to spend a few hours on the saddle ...

    here is the choice:
    1) dt swiss rr521 (20-622, with 32mm height, 520g, max weight 130kg)
    2) dt swiss rr481 (22-622, with 25mm height, 485g, max weight 130kg)

    thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denebe View Post
    here is the choice:
    1) dt swiss rr521 (20-622, with 32mm height, 520g, max weight 130kg)
    2) dt swiss rr481 (22-622, with 25mm height, 485g, max weight 130kg)
    I'd go with RR 481 because of the 22mm width. There are several 35-40c tires that do well on pavement. Since you're not racing I don't think you'll miss skinny tires. I prefer the comfort, confidence, and additional traction of a wider tire.

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    New question here.

    @RacerLex:
    thank you

    At first i was aiming the dt swiss rr521 a bit for beauty (not only ...). But after long hours of reflection, I also believe that the rr481 will better suit me.
    I will take the swiss rr481 dt.

    I want to mount my wheels with 32 spokes.

    The dt swiss aero comp 2.0 / 2.3-1.2 / 2.0 I like it. I do not know if they are suitable to last several months with 110kg (maybe less). For the gravel part, no worries ...

    Otherwise, I saw the Pillar Wing21 2.2 / 2.1-1.3 / 2.0

    What do you think about ?

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    I like the DT Swiss spokes but both are probably fine.

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    OK, also for example:

    the rims RR481 + 32spokes dt comp (or sapim race 2/1,8/2) ?

    This could be consistent for max 110kg on the horse ?

    Edit: I decided for RR481 with 32spokes dt comp.
    Last edited by denebe; 03-24-2019 at 03:08 PM.

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    Anyone built up an RLT with a Jones Loop Bar?

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    New question here.

    Hello,

    do you know why do I need this parts ? (for my Niner RTL9 Steel)



    Thanks.

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    The top picture looks like a shim, possibly too poor a 31.8mm handle bar in a 35mm stem. If you get the inside and outside measurements you can get a better idea what is for.

    The second one looks like a housing end from a jagwire kit.

    The third one looks like housing clips to hold cable housing to a frame.

    Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk

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    I literally came here looking for an answer on that exact thing. The two silver pieces.

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    duplicated. please delete

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerwah View Post
    It's been a couple month project but I just finished this tonight.

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    what size is the frame? 53 or 56?

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    I am 6'6'' with a 37" inseam and a 7'2'' wingspan. 255 lbs. Does anyone think I will have a problem "squeezing" into the 62cm frame? I'd have to buy it sight unseen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damond View Post
    what size is the frame? 53 or 56?
    Sorry I didn't respond quicker damond. It's a 56.

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