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    Niner in 2020, what can we expect?

    Will we see any new or updated full suspension bikes? RKT and Jet are a bit dated. Will we see a new WFO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    Will we see any new or updated full suspension bikes? RKT and Jet are a bit dated. Will we see a new WFO?
    Regional Rep speculated that the RKT would be the next to get upgraded, as the Jet got a mid-cycle refresh two years back (internal routing and some other small things). He reserved the right to be completely wrong.

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    I predict Niner will get out of the full suspension game and just go gravel and HT. I also reserve the right to be completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    I predict Niner will get out of the full suspension game and just go gravel and HT. I also reserve the right to be completely wrong.
    That's why they just released a full suspension gravel bike....

    BSB is gone. Gravel will remain as a primary focus.

    RKT needs an update, 71 head angle (100mm fork) is out of date. They won't exit full suspension, mtb is now firmly rooted in full suspension.

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    Iím not arguing that FS isnít here to stay. Just that Niner has fallen too far out of fashion. They still make good FS bikes, but do they sell?

    Iíd be curious to know how well the Rip is selling. And more importantly, how many new to Niner buyers are there. Iíd venture most of the buyers are return Niner owners. How long can that last?

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    What has happened to Niner? They don't seem to be that relevant anymore. It seems, they should be, more than ever now.

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    The YouTubers/,Racers Syd and Mackey are now sponsored by Niner. Maybe we will get a better idea on what the future holds through them.

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    I was getting some inside info from my local dealer but sadly he stopped carrying Niner because they don't sell. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Niner. My '17 Jet 9 RDO has been flawless.

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    I don't know about you guys but even dated geo's these bikes look damn good lol. I currently have a 2019 Air 9 alum (HT) and I'm fixing to sell it sometime soon, I'd be interested in seeing if Niner makes some updates in their FS bikes and I might go that route to accompany my DV9 HT
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    Iím still holding out for a new 170/160 WFO.

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    I'd really like a niner version of the HD5 from Ibis. I want to try a 650b bike but I would prefer to stay with the same suspension geometry,
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrible View Post
    I'd really like a niner version of the HD5 from Ibis. I want to try a 650b bike but I would prefer to stay with the same suspension geometry,
    To do that they would need to make a new WFO and do like the did with Rip and both 29 and 27.5 option

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    Hopefully more Kurt Voreis videos. Other than that wgaf.

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    Lots of changes with Niner especially with the history of the bankruptcy and subsequent acquisition. It seems the MCR was the primary focus recently, which makes sense.

    There still is a lot of solid technology in the Niner portfolio. The Air 9 RDO is still a pretty great XC hardtail. The RKT remains a great full suspension XC bike, especially coupled with a 120 mm fork, but lacks the slacker front end that most of the other XC bikes have been moving too. An update would be reasonable but it may only bring it in line with what's already out there rather than being a leader like Niner was in the past. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

    It seems pretty clear that Niner upset a lot of local shops along the way. We had the Niner dealership bounce around to a few different local shops in our area but they ultimately dropped Niner and there is no longer a local presence. The heavy online discounting as products needed to be moved hurt Niner's value. There were also a lot of problems with the early Jet 9 RDO frames and I know several people who swore off Niner after having frames crack. They ironed out a lot of these issues and the RKT is so much better built than the early Jet 9 RDO's, but people have a long memory.

    The gravel portfolio is strong with the RLT and now MCR. Perhaps this is the way Niner will continue to go, but competition is getting fierce in this realm and the big companies are starting to take notice too. Rumors of a Trek Checkpoint SLR are circulating and it seems new gravel bikes are getting announced regularly. Clearly the MCR is really different, but will it have broad enough appeal to make a big impact?

    It would be amazing to see Niner lead the way again with some innovative mountain bike products, but it's a challenging space with a lot of great competing products. The world caught up to Niner, and in many areas have passed them, so playing catch up won't be easy.

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    Niner has a Lifetime warranty on their bikes now. That's great news.

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    Well - FWIW - I've demoed the current Niner RIP 9 RDO against the Ripmo, new Norco Sight and Optic and its such a good bike - I came back to it for a 2nd demo after riding the others. Its really a fantastic bike - I like it and the Optic best out of the 4. In fact, its probably the current "leader in the clubhouse" for me because it does have a bit more travel and an ability to just soak up the trail chunk when the going gets fast. Climbs well. The most "nimble" of all of them and felt most like my 27.5 in that regard, but with the 29 rollover and momentum. Im just in my head now having a bit of issue that its a "niner"...

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    Lifetime would make me consider a new WFO if that ever happens

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    I demoed bikes for 3 years before I chose my '17 Jet 9 RDO. It has over 10k miles on it and it's still going strong. I've demoed a few bikes over this past year and not one of them has made me think "I got to have this". If I were in the market for a new MTB I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Niner.

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    The Jet is a true workhouse. Jack of all trades for sure. Looking for a LT 29et so I can make the Jet my XC Marathon bike. Got a chance to trail head parking lot ride a new Rip. It was too close to how I have the Jet set up to justify a Rip

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    I'm hoping for a new rendition of the ROS 9. The sir 9 is cool and all but give us another steel hardtail to party on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    The Jet is a true workhouse. Jack of all trades for sure. Looking for a LT 29et so I can make the Jet my XC Marathon bike. Got a chance to trail head parking lot ride a new Rip. It was too close to how I have the Jet set up to justify a Rip
    Check Jenson USA out for blowout V2 Rip RDO prices !50 mm rear travel so more seperation from the Jet!
    I'm thinking of getting an extra large frame (only 5"10) for bike park use use only and keeping my large for trail use. Longer and more stable with a 1 1/2 deg headset and Push Eleven Six!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    Check Jenson USA out for blowout V2 Rip RDO prices !50 mm rear travel so more seperation from the Jet!
    I'm thinking of getting an extra large frame (only 5"10) for bike park use use only and keeping my large for trail use. Longer and more stable with a 1 1/2 deg headset and Push Eleven Six!
    Saw that. Prob is reach is kinda old school short and standover is too tall for me. Iíd have to go medium.

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    Was not expecting :

    https://www.performancebike.com/nine...s%2fb-pme-1326

    Time will tell if itís a good move, but Iím thinking: no.

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    Whoa! This seems like a desperation move from Niner. Their bikes must really not be selling well at all. People were mocking the brand as ďHuffyĒ after they were sold but now it really does seem like the direction they are going. Performance sells Fuji, Verde, and Marin MTBs. And now they have added Niner. This is certainly going to devalue the Niner brand even further.

    One bankrupt bike company selling their product in another bankrupt bike shop. Wow.

    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    Was not expecting :

    https://www.performancebike.com/nine...s%2fb-pme-1326

    Time will tell if itís a good move, but Iím thinking: no.

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    Just got an email that Nashbar picked them up as well

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    5 to 7k bikes at Performance. Not gonna happen.

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    The Performance and Nashbar brands were sold to AMain Cycling after the parent company went bankrupt. This is a completely different company, which isnít bankrupt. I donít think Performance/Nashbar selling Niner is signaling death of the brand. For those of us out east with little to no retail presence for the brand, Iím glad there are places I can buy the bikes on line.

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