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    Well that's just weird

    So I am browsing the internet looking at various fire restrictions and such and I come across this Order 03-0645. This restricts what you can do in the Cibola National Forest.

    PROHIBITIONS: Being publicly nude.

    EXEMPTIONS: Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.

    Well that's just weird. Imagine having a bike wreck and a clothing optional search and rescue team shows up. Or you are out on a ride and come across a nude Forest Ranger out on patrol. I don't want to see that.

    You can read the whole order at
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...eprd579631.pdf

    There is also an exemption for persons over 21 if you are not prohibited from having alcohol. That would apply to me so I guess I could ride nude if I were so inclined.


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    I know people who have been issued citations for being naked in hot springs on National Forest managed lands

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    It's not so weird from my perspective. Those that make the rules really don't have an adequate way to enforce those rules upon themselves. They are only human, after all?

    So, they simply create loopholes for themselves. I'm not at all saying that forest management isn't necessary, but I just wonder if we need a better tool for the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars29 View Post
    So I am browsing the internet looking at various fire restrictions and such and I come across this Order 03-0645. This restricts what you can do in the Cibola National Forest.

    PROHIBITIONS: Being publicly nude.

    EXEMPTIONS: Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.

    Well that's just weird. Imagine having a bike wreck and a clothing optional search and rescue team shows up. Or you are out on a ride and come across a nude Forest Ranger out on patrol. I don't want to see that.

    You can read the whole order at
    https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...eprd579631.pdf

    There is also an exemption for persons over 21 if you are not prohibited from having alcohol. That would apply to me so I guess I could ride nude if I were so inclined.


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    These exemptions are ones that apply to the general public in a restricted. There are NO exemptions during a closure, unless you have a permit, or you are employed with the Forest Service on official business.

    They tell us it's to help prevent accidental fires, and to lessen the risk of evacuating users from a fire zone. Although, I think they would still have to do their due diligence to insure that their activities won't endanger someone who isn't following the rules, because you know they can't really enforce those rules very well. They can only issue fines. So, should someone get hurt because of their efforts they are STILL open to litigation.

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    Oh, and official business necessarily means "policing" the trails to make sure we are being compliant, but up to that point there is not near as much effort enforcing risky behavior, and that includes the FS agencies themselves. Really gets my goat, I tell you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienTrees View Post
    I know people who have been issued citations for being naked in hot springs on National Forest managed lands
    One of whom was a former FS employee

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    Well I wouldn't want to start any fires, would I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoLungs! View Post
    Well I wouldn't want to start any fires, would I?
    Are you a fire breathing dragon, bro?

    Gotta be quite the disadvantage, having NoLungs! and ALL. haha!

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    Think about this; the more we rely on the Fed for our safety, the more they become liable to ensuring that safety, by virtue of their own mission statement...up to and including limiting us from exposure to ANY and ALL potential hazards for which they are assuming liability..by virtue of their own mission statement, which we are responsible to pay POTENTIAL victims by way of our taxes. That's enough to send someone's head in a spin!

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