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    Three Bottles technical trail build

    The Three Bottles technical trail build is a GO! Pretty much the last of the red tape has been cleared and signed off on. Kerry informed us today. We had hoped to get started last year. But with the Forest clousure and the issues in Washington, that got pushed back. For you tech lovers, this is a great chance to get in on building some fun advanced features. For the XC guys. All features will have a bypass. Kerry will be working on the dates and post before long. Hope to see you out there. I am personally pumped about this project. Good technical trails are a rare thing for the forest service. Hopefully this will lead to more in the future.
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    Its gonna be good! tons of potential and were gonna use all of it.

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    That's awesome news. As far as I know, this is the first step that land managers have made to bring specific technical riding planning to Albuquerque area trails. It's great to see land managers working to accomodate modern user requirements/desires. It's also great to see my good friends working directly with this process. Kudos to all of you guys, your efforts and your vision.
    I can't wait to see the finished product. I hope to be able to help on a workday, even if it is a bit far from Santa Fe. I love riding that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte View Post
    That's awesome news. As far as I know, this is the first step that land managers have made to bring specific technical riding planning to Albuquerque area trails. It's great to see land managers working to accomodate modern user requirements/desires. It's also great to see my good friends working directly with this process. Kudos to all of you guys, your efforts and your vision.
    I can't wait to see the finished product. I hope to be able to help on a workday, even if it is a bit far from Santa Fe. I love riding that area.
    ^^^ this!

    Plus we don't have to hear the griping that there is no B line alternative.

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    Thanks for the update, Stevie. Looking forward to see what we can come up with out there. We've had a year to think about it. Closures are looming, so the sooner the better. How are the inroads up there? It's still a little sloppy down low and along the West Ridge. The snow is melting fast.

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    Its great to see everyone who stepped up (and showed up) to make this happen. Big thanks to you Steve, for making being our conduit, and sticking to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl View Post
    Its great to see everyone who stepped up (and showed up) to make this happen. Big thanks to you Steve, for making being our conduit, and sticking to it
    The real thanks has to go to Kerry. Without him backing us on this project and getting through the red tape. And plenty of it. There would be no Three Bottles Technical Trail. There's still a bit of winter to get through, but spring is near. Conditions at 3-B are still a little tough to get started yet. We will get started as soon as conditions allow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte View Post
    It's great to see land managers working to accomodate modern user requirements/desires. It's also great to see my good friends working directly with this process. Kudos to all of you guys, your efforts and your vision.
    Agreed... good to see the Bando's stepping up!!!
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    Riding out my door in Santa Fe most of the time means I have not ridden much in ABQ. I am interested in possibly helping nevertheless. Where exactly in the ABQ area will 3 Bottles be located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastmaster View Post
    Riding out my door in Santa Fe most of the time means I have not ridden much in ABQ. I am interested in possibly helping nevertheless. Where exactly in the ABQ area will 3 Bottles be located?
    Three Bottles is in the East Mtns. In the Otero area. Between Otero Canyon and David Canyon. Lots of great trails in that area. We would love to have you help out. Anyone is welcome. The more help the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
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    Awesome! Another thing that has not been mentioned much is that there will also be a phase 2 of the build. This will extend Three Bottles at the north end on down to tie in with Blue Ribbon trail. This will bypass the double track. This section looses all the chunk and will have more flow and some table tops and such. Fast and fun! This will hopefully happen next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    Awesome! Another thing that has not been mentioned much is that there will also be a phase 2 of the build. This will extend Three Bottles at the north end on down to tie in with Blue Ribbon trail. This will bypass the double track. This section looses all the chunk and will have more flow and some table tops and such. Fast and fun! This will hopefully happen next year.
    There are potentially some really good sections in there. I would be interested to see the projected route. Matter of fact, there's probably more potential there than 3B's proper, due to the slope.

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    I'm in! Just tell me what to do!

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    Just curious mtbike52, why is the build being split into two phases, particularly given it looks like there'll be plenty of helping hands. Is there a policy reason I'm not aware of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldousfilcher View Post
    Just curious mtbike52, why is the build being split into two phases, particularly given it looks like there'll be plenty of helping hands. Is there a policy reason I'm not aware of?

    Other people could be more specific. but basically the entire trail has to be mapped and planed. before that can happen the area and trail has to be approved. after the trail is mapped and allowed to exist then the biologist geologist and archeologists all have to sign off on the area. There's a lot of moving pieces with a bunch of different people. Attempting to do the entire trail at once would have doubled the work load for everyone involved at every step. doing half at a time is more realistic... i think the rule fore counting volunteers is dividing the number of people who promised they would come by 3( guilty myself)

    So its just about being realistic.

    personally i don't mind the time it takes as long as the gears are moving.. the trail existing at all is a big deal Its going to be alot of fun.. i think a lot of people in town are more interested in technical riding then before, and are eager to get the trail started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Other people could be more specific. but basically the entire trail has to be mapped and planed. before that can happen the area and trail has to be approved. after the trail is mapped and allowed to exist then the biologist geologist and archeologists all have to sign off on the area. There's a lot of moving pieces with a bunch of different people. Attempting to do the entire trail at once would have doubled the work load for everyone involved at every step. doing half at a time is more realistic... i think the rule fore counting volunteers is dividing the number of people who promised they would come by 3( guilty myself)

    So its just about being realistic.

    personally i don't mind the time it takes as long as the gears are moving.. the trail existing at all is a big deal Its going to be alot of fun.. i think a lot of people in town are more interested in technical riding then before, and are eager to get the trail started.
    ^this. And, I'll add that this is likely to be a very busy fire season for Kerry. Although, the confidence we build with the power that be might provide an opportunity to schedule some pre-approved work without supervision. However, if we don't get something soon in the way of moisture, there will only be a small window of opportunity due to closure.

    Let the rain dancing commence!

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    Also, it wouldn't hurt to pick Kerry's brain on the extension so we can get in there and scout that area for possible features.

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    took an act of congress and the blessings of archi-pueblo types just to get this far. Kerry stayed on it. Kerry had a few guidelines for trail building, after that he let who showed up, pick the line. No whining about how techie it is if you didnt show up (ahem...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl View Post
    took an act of congress and the blessings of archi-pueblo types just to get this far. Kerry stayed on it. Kerry had a few guidelines for trail building, after that he let who showed up, pick the line. No whining about how techie it is if you didnt show up (ahem...)
    It's not super technical in it's totality. There are some technical features intermittent on an otherwise "slow" track. More of an accent to 3'Bs proper, IMO.

    Like I said, I think the extension has real potential for a true "expert" line. Delnorte probably remembers HAB'ing it with me a few years back in the opposite direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onetwothree View Post
    ^this. And, I'll add that this is likely to be a very busy fire season for Kerry. Although, the confidence we build with the power that be might provide an opportunity to schedule some pre-approved work without supervision. However, if we don't get something soon in the way of moisture, there will only be a small window of opportunity due to closure.

    Let the rain dancing commence!
    And I might add that both are pretty big builds on their own. There are also project leftover from last year that Kerry prob wants to complete. We can't hog all the build time this year. Plus Rory is working on something that could make a big difference in the phase twe build. Chance for forest closure is a big reason to start early, get phase 1 done and hit that $h1t before closure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    And I might add that both are pretty big builds on their own. There are also project leftover from last year that Kerry prob wants to complete. We can't hog all the build time this year. Plus Rory is working on something that could make a big difference in the phase twe build. Chance for forest closure is a big reason to start early, get phase 1 done and hit that $h1t before closure.
    Nice!

    I'm gonna head over to BLM today and talk about adding some trails on the West side of Red Mesa as an alternative to the East side. It's getting quite popular, and I'd hate to see any animosity develop with the trials peeps. Plus, it's a clean slate.

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    Sounds good. I hung out with a bunch of NMTA members the other week and did not get any sense that MTB'ers concern them. Lots of acreage out there. But more trails would be good. Will definitely be interested in hearing how the discussion goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg1990 View Post
    Sounds good. I hung out with a bunch of NMTA members the other week and did not get any sense that MTB'ers concern them. Lots of acreage out there. But more trails would be good. Will definitely be interested in hearing how the discussion goes.
    I'm not saying that there is any concern whatsoever, but with the amount of people, and the potential of losing trails at White Mesa bringing even more traffic, it would be nice to have some alternatives. There is actually more "rideable" terrain on the West side of the ridge. I've had discussions with the recreational director at BLM. I'm sure it will be a relatively slow process, but the good news is there have been inroads into the area already. They are just currently closed to motorized traffic. Although, I think BLM takes a different stance with regard to lumping MTB's into the "motorized" crowd.

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    Curious what the issue is potentially losing White Mesa trails

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg1990 View Post
    Curious what the issue is potentially losing White Mesa trails
    The White Mesa Mine leases a parcel of that land, which they have granted easement for the trail system, from BLM. They have already forced the name change due to unwanted traffic, and at the same time they were discussing that a year ago they were also warning of expanding the mine into that easement in the near future.

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    Interesting. I wondered about the gypsum as a mineral resource when riding out there.

    Speaking of the BLM, there is a guy in Utah who is spending a lot of office time due to a bike accident. He has provided his phone number and offered to discuss the ins and outs of BLM trail building:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/passion/ask-p...er-891349.html

    He recommends reading the "National Mountain Bicycling Strategic Action Plan"

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    This is 2002 but still current. It contains this statement:

    "...based on analysis of the issues and concerns, and the specific differences between the activities, BLM determined in the final strategy that management of mountain bicycle and other nonmotorized vehicle use warranted its own strategy and management guidance."

    So we are often considered a separate category in the Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) and "travel management" policies that the whole Dept of Interior is working these days.

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    BLM is often much easier to work with as "recreation" is a main focus. It sorta helps distract from some of the other "ventures."

    In all seriousness, it's awesome to see someone who's willing to go above and beyond to help with the negotiation process. I think we have good chance of adopting some of that space. As you look at the map, though, you will see that the space is managed a little differently. The yellow that you see on the West side and down towards White RIDGE is all managed by BLM. The other stuff in pink/purple, including the current stuff at Red Mesa falls under The Bankhead Jones Farm Act, which presumably means one only needs to make a reasonable case for being there.

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    Oh, and thanks for the info., jg1990. I posted a link to this thread for the BLM inside/outside guy.

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    You are welcome. We've drifted a bit off topic from Three Bottles. Would definitely be interested in learning more as your discussion with BLM progresses... perhaps a new thread? Have to admit I'm curious about how RM got carved into such an interesting land category, but that can wait

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    I like how the section you circled is the actual red mesa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    I like how the section you circled is the actual red mesa.
    Good observation!

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    Cursory Review

    Hi I'm the Referenced BLM guy.

    After just an inital review, the land is managed under a specific act tied to the Secretary of Agriculture (Think Forest Service). The BLM is managed under the Secretary of the Interior. You may have already done this background, but with the added surrounding Native american lands, you need to determine which direction the Secretary of Agriculture is planning for the ground. They can shift management or ownership under the act. IE, it could be released to the tribe, or to the BLM, or to private ownership. The mining lease on the purple should be managed through Agriculture, or as an attached (multiple agency) agreement) throught he interior. This is a bit of an anomally for me. Haven't seen it before. For planning purposes, check with your Local BLM office for its RMP decision. If this land is in the realy section of the Resource management plan to acquire, you could identify if the BLM wants to manage it in the future. Thanks for posing the question. From the hip, it would be difficult to designate a trail/system without knowing the future management plan for the area, and who/whom will be the responsible agency. Hope that helps and isn't too confusing. Keep me posted, and I can reach out to the field office recreation planner if you would like

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    PS thanks for the well wishes :)

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    Im still real excited about three bottles! !! I cant wait to get out and start working on it. It will be interwsting to see how the trail develops. Slow and choppy with big moves. Fast tight and scary? Its yet to be seen . Im looking forward to meeting alot of new riders out there, during construction and after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonoutside313 View Post
    Hi I'm the Referenced BLM guy.

    After just an inital review, the land is managed under a specific act tied to the Secretary of Agriculture (Think Forest Service). The BLM is managed under the Secretary of the Interior. You may have already done this background, but with the added surrounding Native american lands, you need to determine which direction the Secretary of Agriculture is planning for the ground. They can shift management or ownership under the act. IE, it could be released to the tribe, or to the BLM, or to private ownership. The mining lease on the purple should be managed through Agriculture, or as an attached (multiple agency) agreement) throught he interior. This is a bit of an anomally for me. Haven't seen it before. For planning purposes, check with your Local BLM office for its RMP decision. If this land is in the realy section of the Resource management plan to acquire, you could identify if the BLM wants to manage it in the future. Thanks for posing the question. From the hip, it would be difficult to designate a trail/system without knowing the future management plan for the area, and who/whom will be the responsible agency. Hope that helps and isn't too confusing. Keep me posted, and I can reach out to the field office recreation planner if you would like
    Thank you!

    *sorry for the thread diversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Im still real excited about three bottles! !! I cant wait to get out and start working on it. It will be interwsting to see how the trail develops. Slow and choppy with big moves. Fast tight and scary? Its yet to be seen . Im looking forward to meeting alot of new riders out there, during construction and after.
    I think it will be a little of both, and too am excited to "break ground." Would be nice to hear any plans with regard to the extension as well.

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    TIME HAS COME! Looks like the build will start in just a couple of weeks. Kerry is looking at starting on Sun the 23rd. This will involve a short reroute on the north end and putting up signage to make Three Bottles official. We are going to need all the help we can get for the build. So all you guys that said you wanted to help out. Time to put your shovel where your mouth is. Kerry would like to put together an email list for those that are interested. You can PM me or Kerry with your email add. Further dates will be posted here and sent to your email . Looking forward to meeting you out at Three Bottles. Lets go build some cool fearures so we can HIT THAT $H!T
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    TIME HAS COME! Looks like the build will start in just a couple of weeks. Kerry is looking at starting on Sun the 23rd. This will involve a short reroute on the north end and putting up signage to make Three Bottles official. We are going to need all the help we can get for the build. So all you guys that said you wanted to help out. Time to put your shovel where your mouth is. Kerry would like to put together an email list for those that are interested. You can PM me or Kerry with your email add. Further dates will be posted here and sent to your email . Looking forward to meeting you out at Three Bottles. Lets go build some cool fearures so we can HIT THAT $H!T
    Here are just some of the boulders and chunk that we will be building through,over and off of. Its going to be good stuff. And for the xc guys, there will be a high and low by pass to cruise on through.
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    I'll be there sunday for sure! Its gonna be fun building it all together. .... Im thinking of buying a wench (portable) to drag big rocks around. Anyone know where to get one or if it would be a waste..?

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    What are you gonna name her? I hope she's big and ugly with crooked teeth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    What are you gonna name her? I hope she's big and ugly with crooked teeth!
    If we all bring a wench only good things would come of it

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    Load Limiter by GRIPHOIST - Load Binders by Zoro Tools Industrial Supplies

    This is the benchmark for moving rock but we'll probably stick with rock bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    Load Limiter by GRIPHOIST - Load Binders by Zoro Tools Industrial Supplies

    This is the benchmark for moving rock but we'll probably stick with rock bars.
    Ouch, there has to be a more dangerous, less effective, less expensive model

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    Aye lad, we have a fine winch aboard by the name "More Power Puller" but will defer to Captain Skerry on deployment

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    The technique is to wrap the rock with flat webbing "chokers", such as tow straps. The straps tighten up and grip the rock securely. Great care and caution are advised

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandolero1 View Post
    Yeah, I'm not familiar with the rocks that Fugs speaks of so might be way outa line here. I don't think it's worth the investment as long as we get a good showing.
    Once you have the ability to drag rocks you start looking at the terrain differently. It makes more things possible. Being able to move large rocks is important.

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    I have a HiLift jack that can be used for winching up to 5000lb, But along with the heavy, clunky jack, the winch kit has 20ft of 3/8 chain to haul around. So if somebody is willing to help with the toting, that is a possibility. I've also got an assortment of tree saver straps and other 4x4 recovery gear that would work for moving rocks.
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    Sweet we might have to use it on a "stick in the mud"

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    > Once you have the ability to drag rocks you start looking at the terrain differently

    Excellent point, but the reviews and paperwork might be excessive

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg1990 View Post
    > Once you have the ability to drag rocks you start looking at the terrain differently

    Excellent point, but the reviews and paperwork might be excessive
    Better not then... I still want one tho.

    Im getting ahead of my self there is still alot of mundane stuff to do first. The best thing to bring is a good attitude.

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    At least one riding buddy and I are willing to do our part. You can put Patrick G. and Travis C. down on the list. Please let us know what the schedule will be. Sundays are tough for us, but if the work is only on Sundays, we'll be there.

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    [QUOTE=ABQ Clydesdale;11048416]At least one riding buddy and I are willing to do our part. You can put Patrick G. and Travis C. down on the list. Please let us know what the schedule will be. Sundays are tough for us, but if the work is only on Sundays, we'll be there.
    Thats awesome. Looking forward to seeing you guys out there.The first date is on a Sunday but that won't always be the case. I will post times and days here but if you will PM me your email addresses I'll send out notices. So far I have gotten a great response from you guys and gals. Can't wait to start and see everyone at Three Bottles. Thanks again, Steve
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    On Sunday the 23rd we will meet at the Mars Ct-David Canyon PL at 10am. and work until 3pm. There will be a few trucks driving in to shuttle people. 4x4 in necessary. As with all FS work projects, proper clothing is required, Long Pants and sturdy shoes. No shorts allowed while working. Protective equipment will be provided by the FS like hard hats, gloves. I will post any updates here and send out to the email list. Let me know if you have any questions. See you on the trail. Steve
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    Thanks for keeping this updated Steve!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    I have a HiLift jack that can be used for winching up to 5000lb, But along with the heavy, clunky jack, the winch kit has 20ft of 3/8 chain to haul around. So if somebody is willing to help with the toting, that is a possibility. I've also got an assortment of tree saver straps and other 4x4 recovery gear that would work for moving rocks.
    Done a lot with a come-along (lighter) and rock bars. Not as refined as what Skerry has done-more brute force, but it works and is cheap. Still need to carry the chains, rock bars, and tree saver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg2lk15 View Post
    Done a lot with a come-along (lighter) and rock bars. Not as refined as what Skerry has done-more brute force, but it works and is cheap. Still need to carry the chains, rock bars, and tree saver.
    I went "all out" and bought a 50 dollar one from home depot. It'll give me some practice so i can begin to gauge how useful a stronger more expensive one might be.

    » Boulders & Winching Techniques

    So I got a nylon one.. not as durable but the similarly priced cable one had a 6 foot reach.. This one has 25 with 1 ton limit. I'm going to use the rough estimate of 175lbs per cubic foot... I wont be moving any big rocks but ill be able to grab good sized cribbing stones and cheater rocks.... FYI none of this pertains to the 3 bottles build, I'm easily distracted by new tools and ended up with a come along that hope fully will get used this fall to hand an elk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    I went "all out" and bought a 50 dollar one from home depot. It'll give me some practice so i can begin to gauge how useful a stronger more expensive one might be.

    » Boulders & Winching Techniques

    So I got a nylon one.. not as durable but the similarly priced cable one had a 6 foot reach.. This one has 25 with 1 ton limit. I'm going to use the rough estimate of 175lbs per cubic foot... I wont be moving any big rocks but ill be able to grab good sized cribbing stones and cheater rocks.... FYI none of this pertains to the 3 bottles build, I'm easily distracted by new tools and ended up with a come along that hope fully will get used this fall to hand an elk
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    Would be willing to donate some 10mm rope if it helps build trails. Original load rating was 27KN or about 6000#. Expect it would hold 3-4000# now.

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    Just a quick reminder. This Sunday the 23rd we will be meeting at the Mars Ct. David Canyon Pl at 10 am. to start work on the Three Bottles Technical Trail build. Hopefully everyone knows how to get there. If not, let me know. Bring lunch and plenty to drink. Also here is a list of Kerries other 2014 trail work dates. Three Bottles is the first project and will go until phase one is complete before Kerry moves on to the other projects. With plenty of help I think we can get this project done in just a few work days. Then Kerry can start some other cool projects. See you this Sunday.
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    Im gonna ride up from tunnel. I'll be starting around 8 830 if anyone wants to join

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Im gonna ride up from tunnel. I'll be starting around 8 830 if anyone wants to join
    Just remember that you have to wear long pants and sturdy shoes or Kerry will turn you away. See you up there.
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    Yeah, I don't want to turn anyone away so please come dressed for success!

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    Where's the meetup and time for the shuttle?
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    Just got word that Jay from The Greenside Cafe will be sending out some burritos for us. Claudia is going to pick them up. Big thanks to the Greenside Cafe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Im gonna ride up from tunnel. I'll be starting around 8 830 if anyone wants to join
    change of plans... early start at mars ct

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    change of plans... early start at mars ct
    Sitting in the Houston airport. Dbags can't do customs right and we missed our flight. Sorry I'm gonna miss day one of 3bs

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    Hiking shoes good, or do I need hard-toed work boots?
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    I think last count we had 20ish folks today. Bummer Steve was injured but thanks for the AM support - rest that collarbone!

    Anyway, thanks to everyone for showing up and making the big push, being flexible and open to suggestions/direction as we build this thing!

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    I've got a video of finished product being ridden but am too much a Luddite to figure that out just yet.

    Thanks again. Until April...

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    It was an awesome day. There were about 20 people out there. Everyone worked hard and we got a lot done. Meet a lot of good people today, pretty stoked to see you all out on the next work day.


    I only got one picture of actual work

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    And a few of some riding. The section that we got done is short but complete. It has a techy climb and a techy decent with berms wall rides rollers and drops to flat. It really is a lot of fun and I'm still very impressed at the amount we got accomplished.


    So after building a new trail section we went and rode it, really a great feeling. see you guys on the next one.



    Michal740 should have taking all the pictures cause his came out awesome
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    I really thought this one would hit harder, DirtySteve popped its cherry first then assured me it wasn't a harsh landing. Glad he gave me the encouragement cause I would have ridden it if he didn't make it look so easy

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    The second drop is like butta. <a href=https://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/john%20calhoun.jpg>Calhoun</a> showed that drop no remorse


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    Michal740 getten some too


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    Then there was a stick fight

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    And we all laughed our asses off

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    See you guys next time

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    Three Bottles technical trail build-general-041.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-general-038.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-general-040.jpgWow! I can't thank everyone enough for the great support shown for the Three Bottles Technical Trail build. It was awesome to see so many people show up. With this kind of support, this project will get done quick. Kind of broke my heart to have to just watch everyone heading in to work. Crappy timing for a broken collarbone. Can't wait to Hit That $h!t. Thanks again everybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    . Crappy timing for a broken collarbone.
    There is no good timing for injuries. Hope you heal quickly and are back in the saddle soon. Thanks for all your effort to mobilize this army.
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    New sign at north end of Three Bottles

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    It really was an awesome day of both building and riding. I lost that stick fight, and I'm not too fond of cheek piercings. Glad you guys got a laugh out of it...Your comment on where the stick should have gone made me laugh...after the ride. Special thanks to Kerry and everyone for making this happen. We enjoyed the heck out of what was built on Sunday.

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    Good job Steve and Company!!! It's nice to finally see the plan developing out there!!!

    There are so many opportunities to develop sustainable, fun AND challenging trails in the area, and I'm happy to see that the USFS is supporting this effort!!!

    Much thanks to you Kerry!!!
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    My thumb muscles have been sore for days! No idea why, those rock bars maybe??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    My thumb muscles have been sore for days! No idea why, those rock bars maybe??
    Too many high fives and thumbs up, keep the stoke down and they will recover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    My thumb muscles have been sore for days! No idea why, those rock bars maybe??
    Maybe from doing this???


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    Has anyone ridden the stuff we built? How does it ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    Has anyone ridden the stuff we built? How does it ride?
    The climb up is challenging. After the berm section there are lots of pedal grabbing rocks no real line to pick but its fun. The rocks that were filled to make the climb are a fun challenge. I tried and faild then chose the go around line

    the down hill one way section is GTG no real work needs to be done onit. The flat landings arnt as bad as theylook. Although adding transitions would make it faster and more inviting to new users. There's plenty of room for advanced stuff later on.

    Personally i wouldn't mind adding transitions to the first drop and the roll over just to keep it a solid blue line...

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    What he said.

    I'll add that the first rock feature is a fun climb and an easy decent. The section we built is over pretty quick though. Really looking forward to another couple build days to get more trail laid out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    The climb up is challenging. After the berm section there are lots of pedal grabbing rocks no real line to pick but its fun. The rocks that were filled to make the climb are a fun challenge. I tried and faild then chose the go around line

    the down hill one way section is GTG no real work needs to be done onit. The flat landings arnt as bad as theylook. Although adding transitions would make it faster and more inviting to new users. There's plenty of room for advanced stuff later on.

    Personally i wouldn't mind adding transitions to the first drop and the roll over just to keep it a solid blue line...
    Great feedback. I want to make sure each line reflects the difficulty accurately (as best we can) so folks aren't surprised when they ride. If we can build in modifications to make them work better we should. There will be way more difficult stuff later but the first line people come to shouldn't be the hardest.

    Thanks again for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    My thumb muscles have been sore for days! No idea why, those rock bars maybe??
    I think it is from having them stuck in your pockets most of the day...

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    Rode it with some friends today. flows good. Looks just like the trail everyone worked on last year. Glad it didnt change.

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    Rode it yesterday. Climbed it three times, once skidding my rear wheel on the boulder climb and almost falling back - just need some momentum! I thought the trail seemed to match Three Bottles well but agree the addition of some transitions on the blue line would lend itself more toward it intended rating. It is a pretty short section but I can say its a preferable climb to the other "old" way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg2lk15 View Post
    I think it is from having them stuck in your pockets most of the day...
    Sounds like something my grandpa would say while he stood around with his thumbs in his pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    It is a pretty short section but I can say its a preferable climb to the other "old" way.
    Climbs are good said the "Ol' Goat"! >;o)>
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    Just a reminder that this Sat and Sun. April 12th and 13th are the next Three Bottles Advanced Trail build days. With another great turnout we can get a lot more trail and fun features put in. The really good stuff is yet to be built. Kerry went out Friday and added some new signage and says he is ready for us Sat and Sun. Meet at the Mars Ct- David Canyon PL at 9:00am. Show your support. Hope to see everyone this weekend!
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    So it looks like to get to the Mars Court PL by truck I turn right onto Raven Road from 337 and drive about 1 mile. Is that correct? I've only been to that PL on my bike before...never by motorized vehicle.

    Planning to be there Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    So it looks like to get to the Mars Court PL by truck I turn right onto Raven Road from 337 and drive about 1 mile. Is that correct? I've only been to that PL on my bike before...never by motorized vehicle.

    Planning to be there Saturday.

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    Pretty much right on. When you turn on Raven and go up the hill you will come to a park. Keep straight there and and then another 1/2 mile to Mars Ct on your right at the bottom of a short hill. See ya Sat.
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    Plug this into your google machine and it'll get you there:

    34.984280, -106.350086

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    Thanks guys. Should I be bringing my bike? What's the plan for getting from the parking lot to the trail?

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    The first weekend Kerry opened up the gate and allowed 4x4 vehicles to drive in. If you don't have a 4x4 there were plenty of vehicles with open seats.
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    Thanks Rory. Sounds like truck + bike will be my plan.

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    Ill be there Sunday. Apparently there's an anime convention on Saturday and I'll be babysitting. Sunday Is good for me. Bring bikes fckers!

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    Just a clarification on the time. We are meeting at the ranger station at 9am. If you want to meet us at Mars Ct, then we'll be there 9:30-45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    Just a clarification on the time. We are meeting at the ranger station at 9am. If you want to meet us at Mars Ct, then we'll be there 9:30-45.
    Does that apply to both days?

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    Yes

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    It was another awesome day for the Three Bottles Advanced Trail build. About 18-20 people today. There was another 2-way blue line finished and fine tuning of some of the features put in 3 weeks ago, and started on some new goodies. With another good turnout tomorrow some of the more advanced features could get in. So come on out tomorrow and join in the fun.
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    Yea, a great trail day. Cleaning a nasty trail pails in comparison to building a chunk of one. Thanks to the Department of Agriculture and all you hooligans out there busting rocks. One fellow just moved here from Virginia and was digging before ever setting tire on trail. That's community, my friends.

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    Great group today. Worked on the submarine rock section. Expanded options, a little different entrance, two drops, two rollers, improved berms.

    Thanks to everyone that came out this weekend. It's really taking shape!

    Now if we just get some moisture...

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    Another good day, If you haven't been out to the trail days you're missing out. Its a lot of work but also a lot of fun.



    Three bottles is turning into a trail system rather then just a trail with features along the way. The 2 way trails allow riders to double back and session different lines. Me and Skelly tried looping everything and its definitely anaerobic trying to get the 2 way climbs in.

    I think one of the cooler things about the trail is the large variety of options. You can ride the same section 6 times and do a different route each time.


    Special thanks to Dude, for letting me borrow the banshee prime!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Special thanks to Dude, for letting me borrow the banshee prime!!
    No problem. I don't figure you for a 29er guy, but I hope it was good for a test roll anyway. Thanks to all those out there doing good work today. we had a great time riding, the trail is really shaping up. We are already looking forward to the next work day.
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    Im actually saving up for a fs 29er right now. The next work day will finish the second blueline and the second black, the first black being sub rock. I plan on Riding after each build day is finished. It would be cool to do a big group ride out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Im actually saving up for a fs 29er right now. The next work day will finish the second blueline and the second black, the first black being sub rock. I plan on Riding after each build day is finished. It would be cool to do a big group ride out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Im actually saving up for a fs 29er right now.
    I stand corrected. Then maybe the prime was just the ride for you.

    Rumor has it there was some overnight precipitation in the east mountains. Just what the trail needed to pack down those squishy berms. Can anyone confirm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    I stand corrected. Then maybe the prime was just the ride for you.

    Rumor has it there was some overnight precipitation in the east mountains. Just what the trail needed to pack down those squishy berms. Can anyone confirm?
    We got about an inch of snow up here. Every little bit helps.
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    Rode the new sections yesterday and it is sweet!

    Kudos to all that worked towards making this a fun, technical trail. Lots of opportunity for progression, so it'll be fun for everyone.
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    Maybe a stupid question but I just saw this thread. Is that trail you were working on done or is there more to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFist View Post
    Maybe a stupid question but I just saw this thread. Is that trail you were working on done or is there more to do?
    It'll be under construction for another 2 years. Phase one will be done this year. But because of the nature of the trail, multiple one way sections accessible by a long 2 way sections, it can be ridden before total completion. Currently there are 3 or 4 brand new fully rideable sections..

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    Anybody know if the 3B area got much rain on Saturday afternoon? We rode it Saturday, and some of the transitions and berms were still really soft. It was just starting to rain when we left, I'm hoping there was enough rain to pack it all down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Anybody know if the 3B area got much rain on Saturday afternoon? We rode it Saturday, and some of the transitions and berms were still really soft. It was just starting to rain when we left, I'm hoping there was enough rain to pack it all down.
    I hiked in there yesterday to check it out. Still pretty dry. We need a really good rain to do much. I like the new drop at sub rock. Hey Kerry. From where the new turn into sub rock would be also the perfect plact to turn into the advanced line I flaged with you last year with a nice drop and two rollers in a row. The first drop is just to the right about 20 yards. Take a look when your out there again. Theres one tree to cut at the bottom of the roller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    It'll be under construction for another 2 years. Phase one will be done this year. But because of the nature of the trail, multiple one way sections accessible by a long 2 way sections, it can be ridden before total completion. Currently there are 3 or 4 brand new fully rideable sections..

    get out and ride it!!

    Thanks. I've never done any trail building. Was thinking of volunteering one of these days when you guys are out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFist View Post
    Thanks. I've never done any trail building. Was thinking of volunteering one of these days when you guys are out there.
    Cool. Hope to see you out there. The next work days are May 17-18th.
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    I want to throw a reminder. This Sat and Sunday the 17thand 18th are the next Three Bottles Advenced trail work days. The basic trails are pretty much in and a little of the advanced lines are in. Time to get down to the really good stuff. The real meat of the build. We could use all the help we can get for this part of the build. Plus with the lack of any real rain, we need to get as much done as we can befor that dirty C word comes up. So make your pland now to be part of this awesome build. See you Sat and Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    I want to throw a reminder. This Sat and Sunday the 17thand 18th are the next Three Bottles Advenced trail work days. The basic trails are pretty much in and a little of the advanced lines are in. Time to get down to the really good stuff. The real meat of the build. We could use all the help we can get for this part of the build. Plus with the lack of any real rain, we need to get as much done as we can befor that dirty C word comes up. So make your pland now to be part of this awesome build. See you Sat and Sunday.
    I'll be absent this weekend as I'm headed to the Gila on a fire assignment. Be kind to Ryan!

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    I couldn't make the last dates but will this weekend. Have to keep an eye on Ryan. Are we meeting at Mars Court or at the Ranger Station like the Trail Days flyer says?

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    You can meet at the ranger station or at Mars ct 30 min later

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    Anyone else going to be biking in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. 68 Hundred View Post
    Anyone else going to be biking in?

    Steve
    Also there's usually several trucks driving in. Everyone is welcome to throw their bikes in and ride after work. Hope to see a bunch of you guys and gals there Sat and Sun.
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    Got to say thanks to Jay from Greenside Cafe. Word is that he is sending out some of his awesome burritos for the workers.
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    Sorry I won't be able to make it out. Three 12s in a row at the hospital this weekend. Huge thanks to everyone who shows up.

    Steve, I hope you healed up okay man. Sorry to hear about your spill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biklophile View Post
    Sorry I won't be able to make it out. Three 12s in a row at the hospital this weekend. Huge thanks to everyone who shows up.

    Steve, I hope you healed up okay man. Sorry to hear about your spill.

    Thanks you guys.
    Ok Pat, I'm going to need a doctors note. The Healing process is slower than I would like. But going well. Defnitally takes longer the older you get. Did get the ok to pedal around on roads. A little trail work will do me good.
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    I want to remind everyone headed out for the trail work that is going on this Sat and Sun. It's going to be on the hot side, so bring plenty of water and sunblock. See ya there.
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    Another awesome day. Thanks to everyone who came out.

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    It was a really good day at the 3-B build. Lots of rock work went into a good size drop and big burm blow it. A couple other nice features and another Black Diamond line is complete and ready to hit. Then got a line cut into a giant Double Red Diamond huge roller. Tomorrow we will finish the roller and into a very rocky skills area. Going to be fun. If you've got time, come on out tomorrow. We could use an extra hand.
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    I almost feel like I was there! Great work guys - can't wait to see today's progress.

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    Three Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-016.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-017.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-028.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-026.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-001.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-007.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-008.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-010.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-sunday-3-b-011.jpgWe had really good day on the build today.Did some refining on the last part of the black diamond line that was put in yesterday.Fast and sweet. Also finished the line to the big roller. The first Double Diamond Trail! Get ready to pucker up for that one. Started into a cool rocky area that will test all your skills. It will be finished on the next work weekend next month along with more technical lines. You still have time to get in on this awesome build. Super big thankyou to everyone that came out this weekend. Everyone worked their butts off and got some real quality work done. Thanks AGAIN to the Greenside Cafe for those awesome burritos. Killer!
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    Its really turning into a cool session spot. A true a la carte menu of technical riding It doesn't get mentioned as much but the uphill lines are all fairly hard, lung busters.


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    Got in the double red

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    Finished a nice black line also

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    Ran Into lost dave and rode back to 3B's from mars ct ... Dave was riding his 1997 azonic hardtail with 80mils of travel and rim brakes. he got a little crazy on it, even did the roller but i missed the pic... maybe next time



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    I got out to check the conditions at 3-B today. The road from Mars Ct. was a bit on the muddy side on the way in but was good on the way out. All the rain over the last three days has done the trail good. All the rockwork looks great. Everything just needs to get some bikes on it and pack it in. Didn't see any other tracks on it.
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    Hugs and Kisses to everyone who has put sweat equity into this project. We sesh'd the whole thing today over&over, over&over, over&over, over&over...you get the point. It should be good and packed now! I managed to find a few options that I think might have been unintentional, but they worked out really well and at least one of them left my britches a little soggy. lol

    I was noticing that the new Cajun Pine reroute from last year swings real close to where the new work has commenced. Any plans on making a connector in the future? Just a quick glance at it reveals quite a few boulder options that would tie in very well with the existing features. It would also eliminate flatland slog to the official entrance. Personally, I would not miss much of first half of three bottles given the success of this project.

    Anyway, thanks again to all that have helped out so far, and to those who plan an volunteering in the future. These kinds of trails don't build themselves.

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    Got out there today, much better conditions than 2 weeks ago. Rain must have helped a lot. I guess Lost Dave beat me to it but the small drop is indeed hardtail friendly. I might have been psyched out a bit by seeing it prior to the dirt fill but it ended up being completely uneventful. I'm not complaining though. Not sure of the double red diamond drop/roller though. I pretty much said 'no way in hell' while looking down at it. Looking at the pictures makes me feel like a wuss; it looks like I could roller skate down it.

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    A friend of mine was wondering if this weekend's trail days will be focused on 3 Bottles or elsewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    A friend of mine was wondering if this weekend's trail days will be focused on 3 Bottles or elsewhere?
    I'm pretty sure that the Nat Trails Day on June 7th work will be on the Dead Man Connector. And then Back to Three Bottles in July. Kerry will probably post some info on this Sat. work.
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    Yep, we'll be working on the connector trail this weekend (sat only) then back to 3 Bottles. It's too much logistics for a bigger event with non-regulars. The connected will be a great addition.

    If you're interested, we'll start at 9am at the old Deadman campground just south of Pine Flat on the east side.

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    Love this area


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    Dang it was great to get out on some trail again. My first real ride in 2 1/2 months. Been just riding up and down the road out of Mars Ct. Just kept it easy for now. None of the real fun stuff. But that's coming. 3-Bottles conditions are great. Can't wait to get back for the next build weekend in July. With the trails out of Mars Ct open again, access to 3-B is much easer. Go get you some.
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    Good to see that you are back on the trail!
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    I cased the sh!t outta that thing this afternoon! Thought I was going pretty fast, but not fast enough, I guess.

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    Bryan is goin straight in that pic. ... did the lander hold up all right? and more importantly did you get it on the second try?
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    I cased the sh!t outta that thing this afternoon! Thought I was going pretty fast, but not fast enough, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Bryan is goin straight in that pic. ... did the lander hold up all right? and more importantly did you get it on the second try?
    It's a pretty good booter, but you gotta muscle it a little if you lack the speed.

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    Man, that lander is rock solid. Didn't even budge! Didn't try it again either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    Man, that lander is rock solid. Didn't even budge! Didn't try it again either...
    Sweet. Did you make the rock apologize to you?

    Cant wait to get out and do some real riding again. pack the trail and keep it ready for me!
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    While I was over at the Mars Ct PL to check on the closure I ran into Ryan with the FS. I asked about the FS trail work days at 3-Bs this weekend the 12th and 13th. He was not sure yet but thought the trail work days would go on as scheduled. As soon as I know I'll post. We could use all the hands we can get as we head towards the last part of this years build at Three Bottles.
    Hope everyone likes what has been done so far.
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    Woohoo! And we're hoping Tres repeats his demo of how not to pick up a mattock lying on the ground. Yes Kerry, even when you're not around, we think and practice safety all the time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg2lk15 View Post
    Woohoo! And we're hoping Tres repeats his demo of how not to pick up a mattock lying on the ground. Yes Kerry, even when you're not around, we think and practice safety all the time...
    Well I'm having hernia surgery on Thursday, and the mattock incident certainly did not help. They really need to paint those handles bright red, or something.

    I'm hoping they postpone it for a week, actually.

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    Kerry just sent me an email and said the trail work days this weekend the 12th and 13th are a go. We can use all the help you can get. Hope to see you there. 9am at the FS Station in Tijeras or 9:15 at Mars Ct PL
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    If I were to show up for trail work day this Saturday do I need to bring any tools? or do I just show up... I like what you guys are doing in the 3 bottles area as I am really enjoying working on my technical handling skills, I just feel guilty riding the trail not doing any work on it. and do I need to know anybody on the crew to be invited to work or is it just a show up kind of deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximo View Post
    If I were to show up for trail work day this Saturday do I need to bring any tools? or do I just show up... I like what you guys are doing in the 3 bottles area as I am really enjoying working on my technical handling skills, I just feel guilty riding the trail not doing any work on it. and do I need to know anybody on the crew to be invited to work or is it just a show up kind of deal?
    Maximo, just show up. Make sure you wear long pants, good work boots/shoes, and sunscreen. Bringing your own water/food is always a good idea as well. The Forest Service provides everything else.

    Sure wish I could make it, but my weekend is booked with family commitments this time around.

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    Please, don't be motivated by guilt. What an awful emotion. Just show up because you like hanging out and building features that you like to ride!

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    Tres, hope the surgery goes smoothly and we get to ride again soon.

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    Cool! Thanks guys I have no experience building trail and would like to gain some knowledge.


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    I met with Kerry and Ryan today at Three Bottles trail. We walked through everything built so far to see how things are holding up and what needs to be modified to make it work better. A few changes are necessary but not much. Also some more cool features of the black diamond and double diamond variety. Prob this weekend and another next month will do this build for the season. See you this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    I met with Kerry and Ryan today at Three Bottles trail. We walked through everything built so far to see how things are holding up and what needs to be modified to make it work better. A few changes are necessary but not much. Also some more cool features of the black diamond and double diamond variety. Prob this weekend and another next month will do this build for the season. See you this weekend.
    Saweet! I'm guessing with stage 2 restrictions still in effect, it would be ludicrous to request an A/C generator and a hammer drill (which I do own) to knock a little off the top of the big rock booter after the berm. I had hoped to build a nice big lander, and possibly do something with the tree we were originally going to take out of that line. Would make a nice log ride.

    Also, I had a brief discussion on FB with Kerry regarding a proposed gateway/access from Cajun Pine, just above the rocky climb coming from the South on the fire road. I know everyone is sick of hearing about it, but I do think that would make an awesome option for getting over to the advanced area. It would take one or two people just a couple of hours to get that section rideable. If I'm able, I plan on being there. Otherwise, thanks in advance for all the support from FS, and especially the volunteers!

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    Three Bottles Trail build this Sat and Sun. Come on out and join the fun and build some fun features. Meet at the Tijeras Ranger Station at 9am or at the Mars Ct PL at 9:15am. Looking forward to seeing you there.
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    Had a good day on the build today. Took care of some things that needed a little work. Most of the time was spent on the old tec, rocky climb that is now a one way down. It is a really sweet line now. Two nice drops in a row. Not a big group today. But we got a lot done. Another build day tomorrow. We could use your help. Come on out and join the fun!
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    Three Bottles technical trail build-three-bottles-build.-july-2014-001.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-three-bottles-build.-july-2014-002.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-three-bottles-build.-july-2014-003.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-three-bottles-build.-july-2014-004.jpgWe got so close to finishing up a blue line and the new diamond line today. It's a bad a$$ line. Next months trail work days will finish up this project for the season. What a cool area this is turning into. Multiple lines for every skill level. You can easily spend a little time there just sessioning everything. Especially after the two new lines are complete. Have fun out there and be safe.
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    Very much looking forward to checking this out. Thanks guys, gals and most of all our beloved public "servants."

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    I don't make all the trail building days, but every one I do make, there is Bob, Mrs Bob, and Steve. Wish I was as dedicated as they. Also busting rock today were Brian, a recent MTB convert, Sean, Tim and the dynamic duo, Kerry and Ryan. Ive spent the last 14 years working with federal civil servants (as a,contractor) and those two guys work more in one trail day than most GS work in a.... um, better just leave it there
    I hear August is the last hurrah for 3 Bottles building. Let's all show and make it a party to remember.

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    I thought I saw my neighbor Donny in a few of those pictures as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tres Bottelas View Post
    I thought I saw my neighbor Donny in a few of those pictures as well.
    I've probably massacred all the names. It's one of the joys of going deaf.

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    Really appreciate all the hard work by everyone who made it out this weekend. Sorry I couldn't make it.

    It's probably already posted somewhere in this thread, but to make it easy for everyone, will someone please provide the dates for the August work days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post

    It's probably already posted somewhere in this thread, but to make it easy for everyone, will someone please provide the dates for the August work days?

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    The Aug dates are the 9th and 10th. See you on the trail!
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    Glad I could finally contribute. First trail day I got stuck in customs in houston, next trail day was my birthday. Although I have a pissed off misses for ditching her on a planned weekend, Im stoked to see the progress and help build it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl View Post
    Although I have a pissed off misses for ditching her on a planned weekend.
    Bring her along next time to prove you didn't spend the day in a bar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg2lk15 View Post
    Bring her along next time to prove you didn't spend the day in a bar...
    But, then she would actually see him sweat...


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    Are there any video or photos of anyone rolling that rock on the red expert line?

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    Are there any video or photos of anyone rolling that rock on the red expert ?
    Here ya go
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    That's Impressive... I couldn't get the courage to roll it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximo View Post
    That's Impressive... I couldn't get the courage to roll it.
    On Aug 9th and 10th we will finish a new line that has a drop leading into another big roller. More fun options to test you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximo View Post
    That's Impressive... I couldn't get the courage to roll it.
    It was a lot harder the way it was before… Pretty easy now with that big dirt tranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    I was a lot harder the way it was before… Pretty easy now with that big dirt tranny.
    Agreed. However, this kind of input is desperately needed during process, not after. Like Stevie says, it would be nice to have a really good showing for the last weekend of this build. If you want your voice heard, please consider backing it with a little sweat equity. I'm truly inspired by the feedback so far, and I know some of us don't see eye to eye on a few of issues, but it would be a pity to not set that aside in order to gain some common ground. See you on build day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tres Bottelas View Post
    Agreed. However, this kind of input is desperately needed during process, not after. Like Stevie says, it would be nice to have a really good showing for the last weekend of this build. If you want your voice heard, please consider backing it with a little sweat equity. I'm truly inspired by the feedback so far, and I know some of us don't see eye to eye on a few of issues, but it would be a pity to not set that aside in order to gain some common ground. See you on build day!
    If I was complaining, maybe... Just a statement. As you do all the time here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    If I was complaining, maybe... Just a statement. As you do all the time here.
    Well, I for one am glad you weren't complaining, and believe it or not I'm equally inspired by your statements.

    Statements are welcome during work days, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    It was a lot harder the way it was before… Pretty easy now with that big dirt tranny.
    yea... sorry about that. at least it leads into jump. The original idea that paul and I had was to make it possible to drop it part way down the roller. never really came to fruition so we tride to make it g out into/over a rock gap... the thing shots you out with lots of speed . so in the end it is still a gnarly line if you take it at speed to the bottom.

    but theres no getting around the fact I sanitized it and I do feel bad about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    It was a lot harder the way it was before… Pretty easy now with that big dirt tranny.
    That dirt transition was a lot smaller when I was up there last weekend, but maybe it was all in my head... maybe next time I will get the courage to roll it. The area is really awesome love the loops. thanks everyone for putting in the labor to give us this system.

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    Moar video, less cattywompus

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    Quote Originally Posted by warimono View Post
    Moar video, less cattywompus
    Moar videos, require moar trails. Moar trails, require moar volunteers.

    That be the "cycle" of life, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warimono View Post
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    I got a cam you could borrow if you want... you dont have to worry about breaking it since its 80 percent there. BUT it still records if you wanna borrow it
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G View Post
    It was a lot harder the way it was before… Pretty easy now with that big dirt tranny.
    After taking a look at both today, I think you'll like the new roller that opens Aug 9th. Check it out. After you turn on the new subrock line, the line to it takes off to your right. With the nice drop right befor it, you will really have to control your speed before the roller and then another small roller. The roller to the left of subrock has some good pucker factor to it as well.
    If anyone else knows of a spot that needs some tweaking, please let me know before the last work weekend this year. Aug 9th and 10th. All input is welcome.
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    You are almost as coy and elusive as notaknob.

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    So, I rode up on the dbl blk diamond roller today. I hate to beat a dead horse, but man, that is not an easy roller. My buddy Jeffe walked away from it, and that's pretty rare. It looks a lot different than it did 3 weeks ago. Rain must have settled it some. Have you been up there in the last few weeks, FNG? It may still be easy for you, but at least it's harder than it was.

    Also, I see where the new line comes in above sub rock, but didn't have much time to hike it. I was weary of riding in due to the Vando Tape that was strung up in front of the entrance.

    Can't wait for the next build day! Hoping for more rain, so the terrain is easy to sculpt.

    See you fellas on the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    After taking a look at both today, I think you'll like the new roller that opens Aug 9th. Check it out. After you turn on the new subrock line, the line to it takes off to your right. With the nice drop right befor it, you will really have to control your speed before the roller and then another small roller. The roller to the left of subrock has some good pucker factor to it as well.
    If anyone else knows of a spot that needs some tweaking, please let me know before the last work weekend this year. Aug 9th and 10th. All input is welcome.
    I noticed someone worked the lander on one of the drops after the rocky climb. It flows really well going into the next drop. Thanks!

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    The next and last 3-Bottles build days are this weekend. The 9th and 10th of Aug. These will be the last work days this season for the 3-Bottles Advanced trail project. The support for this project has been great to say the least. I want to thank everyone for their hard work to make this one of a kind project a success.
    We would love to have a big turnout for the last two days to finish this project with a bang! There is still an awesome new line to finish and some finishing touches to do to some existing stuff. A big turnout will help getting everything wrapped up and ready to (HIT THAT $h!t)

    9 am at the Tijeras Ranger station or 9:15 at the Mars Ct PL. Come join the fun. See you there!
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    Steve, thanks for the update and reminder. My plan is to start at the Tunnel parking lot at roughly 8 AM Saturday and ride up to 3-Bottles to join in the trail work fun. My likely route will be Birdhouse to Tunero descent to Otero and then up Gnasty and Blue Ribbon to 3-Bottles. If any of you are interested in joining me for the ride up, feel free to reply or PM me. Thanks!

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    I'm finally going to try and get there to have some Santa Fe sweat in the project. I'll probably be there Sunday. I might join the climb up, I still don't know my way around there solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    I'm finally going to try and get there to have some Santa Fe sweat in the project. I'll probably be there Sunday. I might join the climb up, I still don't know my way around there solo.
    Chris, just to clarify, I'm planning to climb up and work on Saturday. Not sure if someone else will be doing a climb on Sunday. If you can make Saturday, would love to have you join us. So far there is one other and myself.

    Best,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    Chris, just to clarify, I'm planning to climb up and work on Saturday. Not sure if someone else will be doing a climb on Sunday. If you can make Saturday, would love to have you join us. So far there is one other and myself.

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    Yeah I caught that, should have edited my message. Possible to give directions if I need to go solo or anyone else riding up? Maybe there is a Strava route or segment I can follow?
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    Three Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-003.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-002.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-001.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-004.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-005.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-006.jpgThree Bottles technical trail build-aug-trail-work-3-bottles-007.jpgWe had a really good day on the build. The last line we are working on is a double diamond so we decided to beef things up after the second roller. We did a lot of big rock work on the transition off the roller into a big burm. There is about two hours of work left on this last line and fine tune a couple of other spots and call this a done deal. If the weather holds up tonight, tomorrow will do it.
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    Damn dudes, good work! Sorry, I'm gonna hafta miss the work days this weekend. I been trying to get home from Knoxville, TN for over 24 hours now, and it's looking like I'll be lucky even to get home tomorrow. Stuck in the Houston airport now. Bad weather all over the Southeast... Keep up the good work!

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    Coming Sunday. Couldn't get the other trail bike sorted yet, so have to bring my dh rig.... might just drive in with the crew....
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