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    I'm gonna ride tomorrow during the day, up Kings or something like that.

    It's too bad there aren't more trails on the sunny side of the valley; trails that don't close when the weather gets cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    I'm gonna ride tomorrow during the day, up Kings or something like that.

    It's too bad there aren't more trails on the sunny side of the valley; trails that don't close when the weather gets cold.
    I ended up riding Clear Creek Thursday, Peavine Friday and Saturday. Insane wind on Friday but a great morning Saturday.

    Peavine seems like it would be rideable all winter long if you had enough fat bike traffic. I actually rode it a couple years ago when we were there for Christmas on a regular 29 and made it to the snowboard bench (breaking ground most of the way).

    The Salt Lake area has gotten to the point where we have enough fat bike people that our "peavine" type area is groomed all winter long.

    And by the way, Peavine was really pretty impressive last week - someone is putting in a lot of work out there.

    Thanks for the tips on where to go last week.
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    The problem with this area vs SLC is the we get a lot of freeze-thaw and some really warm winter days, so the snow turns to mush, then freezes, so it's very hard to establish a base that stays rideable. Perhaps in Tahoe/Truckee, which is where they already have some trails maintained for snow bikes....

    I came from WA state, where we had the snow and the cold to groom trails, but it was still hard to keep up the tracks. I thought about grooming snow trails here, then rode fat last winter and realized the complications.

    Just better off building trails that remain snow free, out of the tree line, southern exposure, etc... like Prison Hill, Centennial, Goni, Pinion, all of which need more trail building love to become winter destinations.

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    I ended up riding Clear Creek Thursday, Peavine Friday and Saturday. Insane wind on Friday but a great morning Saturday.

    Peavine seems like it would be rideable all winter long if you had enough fat bike traffic. I actually rode it a couple years ago when we were there for Christmas on a regular 29 and made it to the snowboard bench (breaking ground most of the way).

    The Salt Lake area has gotten to the point where we have enough fat bike people that our "peavine" type area is groomed all winter long.

    And by the way, Peavine was really pretty impressive last week - someone is putting in a lot of work out there.

    Thanks for the tips on where to go last week.
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    Rode up Clear Creek to the Knob yesterday, it is passable, thin snow mostly covering the trail for the last couple miles, patchy snow in the tree line and shady corners, was melting fast yesterday, definitely worth riding. Drop tire pressure and avoid riding through puddles.

    I suspect itís rideable from the golf course interchange, though the snow will be deeper the further up you go, lots of foot and bike traffic have compacted the snow.

    I suspect Pine Nuts is in excellent shape, worth the drive if you have the time.
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    Where are you riding on the Pine Nuts side?

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    Heard that Centennial is supposed to be awesome right now too. New Conner's Trail (can't remember what the final name is) is supposed to be great little addition.

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    It's perfect over on this side of the valley, snow has been gone for a week, my backyard trails are similar in orientation to Centennial, I never stopped riding, the snow was thin and road well, now it's hero dirt.

    We rode Clear Creek on Sunday, still a little snow up high, slushy late in the day, but all rideable.

    The trails should be awesome for Xmas!

    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Heard that Centennial is supposed to be awesome right now too. New Conner's Trail (can't remember what the final name is) is supposed to be great little addition.
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    How's Peavine riding this week? Supposed to be mid 50s on Thu, worth the drive from NLT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powpig View Post
    How's Peavine riding this week? Supposed to be mid 50s on Thu, worth the drive from NLT?
    Iíve heard Blite, Crispy Bacon and Bacon Strip are mostly fine. So are Keystone and Evans Canyon. Anything north facing is still snowy/icy/muddy. So avoid Total Recall, Lingles, Colpo Canyon, Bobsled etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesjus View Post
    Iíve heard Blite, Crispy Bacon and Bacon Strip are mostly fine. So are Keystone and Evans Canyon. Anything north facing is still snowy/icy/muddy. So avoid Total Recall, Lingles, Colpo Canyon, Bobsled etc.


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    This... take a look at the Biggest Little Trail Stewardships (previously PoeDunk) social media as they have all the info on there. Basically they were saying that everything south facing was pretty good to go aside from small parts here and there. They were warning people to stay off all north facing stuff as they had been getting reports of people riding the muddy, nasty sections and causing trail damage.

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    Prison Hill is close to snow free on the north facing slope, what snow or ice you'd encounter is gonna be thin and patchy.

    Beautiful weather, a little Indian summer, get it before it's gone... next week winter returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    This... take a look at the Biggest Little Trail Stewardships (previously PoeDunk) social media as they have all the info on there.
    Thanks, didn't know the Poedunks had changed their name & website

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    Trails above WNCC are completely clear, trail along the creek from Ash Canyon trailhead has snow in places. Ash to Kings is snow covered, freeze thaw made it pretty slick.

    Prison Hill is snow free.

    Hero dirt abounds!
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    Trails above WNCC are 99% snow free to the Ash TH, best to ride when the ground is frozen to avoid mashing wet soils and causing ruts; ie frost heave.

    Prison Hill Escape route should be rideable, only the north side holds snow long, Iíll go ride it this weekend and report back; or you guys go ride it and do the same

    Anyone been up Clear Creek the past day? I suspect itís mucky, so best ride before it thaws to avoid trail damage.
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    LOL... well so much for riding anytime soon unless you like fatbiking or find a trail with less snow on it. This storm dumped some serious snow and the next one coming this weekend is supposed to be similar. Probably have a good 6" sitting on top of my Land Cruiser from yesterday and today alone.

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    Worse yet, the heavy rain saturated the soils, then the temps dropped, think frozen sponge covered with 6-12Ē of snow, not looking so good right now. Iím packing my backyard trails by walking and snow shoe, should be rideable in the next day if you like snow biking. Once the snow is packed, a plus tire gives plenty of support and traction.

    Ridevthevtrails while theyíre frozen to protect from retail damage.
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    So, I'm both sad and happy and sad about the last few weeks of snow. No trails are open and the roads are impassable on a road bike. But, This proves I timed my hernia surgery perfectly. I'm starting my 2nd week of recovery.

    I'm sad I'm not cleared to get on my trainer yet. I'm happy we are getting the moisture we need. And I'm sad all of you, my friends, are off your bikes along with me.

    My prayers include a quick and complete recovery from my surgery for myself and perfect weather for riding for the rest of the year. (Now that we have enough snow)

    Cheers everyone
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    The snow last week was so dry that it wouldnít pack until the temps warmed up, but this last snow fall was a little wetter, packed down fine after a couple passes with snow shoes, rode this afternoon on plus tires aired down and it didnít suck.

    Iím missing my fat bike right about now...
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    Yeah stuff up in Tahoe is nice consistency and packs down pretty easily. Wife and I spent the weekend at the family cabin in Kings Beach. Got there Friday afternoon to spend 3hours shoveling/blowing snow from driveway and porch. Had probably 12" at that point. Shoveled a bunch after snow shoeing on Saturday afternoon, maybe 5" total all day, then the night came and the heavy snow fall started. Woke up yesterday morning to at least 18" on the driveway, more on the vehicles and another good 3hrs of shoveling, snow blowing and pushing people out of drifts and low spots. 10am was the first time (and only time) the plows hit the residential neighborhoods and did a pretty crap job at that.
    Was definitely entertaining to see people hall ballz up the hill to get past the snow in their cars and low clearance SUVs.

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    LOL... well after these last two storms, it is going to be a while before we see dirt again. Went by the cabin last night to check on things and there was another 6"+ even after all the heavy rain yesterday and warmer temps.

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    The dirt is back!

    Centennial is dry and firm, I suspect Prison Hill is dry all the way around (Iíll be checking on that shortly), above the college is snow free though the typical places will stay damp for a bit.

    We have some precip coming, but no more than a half inch, and with temps above freezing itíll drain and dry fast.

    Shaded trails are snow covered, so itíll be a while for Upper Clear Creek and Ash to King.

    If you like to ride your mountain bike in the winter, then voice you opinions to Pedal Power, tell them to stop focusing on trails that are snow covered for half the year. We need trails built at Centennial and to the west (Goni), even Dayton or down south would be good.
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    Thanks Ben. How was Prison Hill? I'm working near Pinon next week and wonder how that is.

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    Everything on the east side of Carson is pretty firm, I suspect Ponion is good, Prison Hill is good. Today we rode all over Centenial and it was great, but the wind was fierce, fourteen miles round trip from my house in Goni, out to the big hill above Centennial, down a wicked old ORV track, up and down Connors trail, out the main trail to the RR tracks, then up to the original pirate trails, over to the Gully Trail, then back to Goni.

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    Let's ride this weekend!

    Lots of good riding to be had at Pinenuts, Centennial, Goni, Prison Hill.

    Call Ben for a good time
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    Im headed to the coast for work, but pinyon was great today!

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    Nice pis, thanks, I'll be out there with my wife this weekend.

    Where are you riding on the coast?

    I'll be riding in St George next weekend.

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    Im headed to the coast for work, but pinyon was great today!
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    Valley trails are drying out, warm weather is here!

    Ride Goni yesterday, heading to Pinenuts at noon.

    Sunday I might ride above the college or see how far I can get up Kings Canyon.

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    Yup rode lower ash last night and things are pretty good and clean. Buddy did all of evidence and 4-day (switchback) and said that other than a few muddy areas everything was pretty clear.
    I did not ride 7step to Vicee (north side of lowest part) as it usually is still in shadow this time of year. Will check it out next week though.
    Heading out to Centennial at 2pm today with buddies. Gotta get the cobbwebs out of the legs before I start hitting the road to train the climbs.

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    So about Pinenuts ... it's not exactly dry, some mud bogs on the north facing side, still patches of snow, some seeps. Iíd say wait a week and itíll be drier, for sure a couple weeks without significant precipitation and itíll be golden:
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    Centennial is prime dirt. Lots of fun out there right now, some of the west to east trails are rutted out with some of the water drainage but you can easily ride around the worst section of those trails. Been almost a year since I have been out there and they are fun trails when dry and a bit tacky/packed like this. Normally once things warm up they get completely blown out but today was lots of fun.

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    Clear Creek was excellent but I only rode to the snow drifts and the beginning of some substantial hike a bike. I watched as a few trudged on through the snow probably intent on getting to the lookout. There were lots of hikers and cyclists out enjoying the sunshine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopaka View Post
    Clear Creek was excellent but I only rode to the snow drifts and the beginning of some substantial hike a bike. I watched as a few trudged on through the snow probably intent on getting to the lookout. There were lots of hikers and cyclists out enjoying the sunshine.
    Yeah there were tons of people showing up at Centennial while we were there. Kinda sucks because now it is becoming a more well known trail system but people don't understand (at least last I knew) that the system is completely unsanctioned and on BLM land. Carson City and Muscle Powered were attempting to purchase the land so that we could easily and officially go out there for trail maintenance (some sections need it from drainage/watershed) but I have not heard about it going through.

    Since it is pretty much the only decent sized trail system dry within 50 miles of Reno/Sparks there are more and more people coming. While yesterday was prime dirt, at this rate that will not last long. Probably saw at least 20 riders out there when we were there yesterday between 2 and 4pm. Read that there were other groups out as well (locals) and then saw it posted all over the Reno riding Facebook page with lots of people asking how to get to it and what to ride (as nothing really shows up on Trailforks or MTB Project).

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    More demand should lead to more trail development .... at least in theory.

    I know there are more trails are in the plan, but the plan don't mean much until it starts getting done.

    As much as I appreciate the local trail group, the only significant trail building has been done by the folks in the lower carson valley.

    ... and if they don't start building trails, they will end up with more pirate trails, it's happened in the past and it's happened recently.

    I'd also add that unless some of the trails include features, jump lines, etc... then those features will get built illegally elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    More demand should lead to more trail development .... at least in theory.

    I know there are more trails are in the plan, but the plan don't mean much until it starts getting done.

    As much as I appreciate the local trail group, the only significant trail building has been done by the folks in the lower carson valley.

    ... and if they don't start building trails, they will end up with more pirate trails, it's happened in the past and it's happened recently.

    I'd also add that unless some of the trails include features, jump lines, etc... then those features will get built illegally elsewhere.
    Right... I did talk with Jen and got a better idea of what is sanctioned/legal trails out there and what is not. Pretty much it seems to be half and half as when I rode out there on Sunday there were a lot of new trails that I did not remember from last year. As long as the trail is known by BLM (considered a blue line on the GIS map of carson) then it is a sanctioned trail and legal to work on and maintain.

    Anyways, we may have to see about getting a gang together to go out there and do some trail maintenance. The main downhill track I rode from the NW side of the trails was seriously rutted out from drainage. Needs some work in other areas too but not sure if that was on BLM land or City land.

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    So I spent the afternoon at Centennial. The trail is torn up badly in a few spots. It looks like there must have been an episode of heavy run-off on the "First Climb" segment and in some other places on Freedom Loop. The mud in the upper north facing bits is completely dried up. Overall a banner day with warm temps and very little wind,

    The "new trail" is getting bedded in quite well and is in very good condition. I don't really like the the new trail that much. It seems very "busy". But I must give kudos to its sustainability and engineering (except that spot about half way up that grabs my chainring almost every time).

    I like the challenge of the first "Z" on the climb. I haven't cleared it yet. Anybody else clean that spot?
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    The Pineapple Express last month tore up a lot of trails, the worst hit are the pirate trails that were poorly designed with straight shots down the fall line. These trails really should be rerouted to avoid becoming double tracked as folks ride the edges to avoid the eroded gullies.

    The new trail is great, one of the few purpose built tech trails in the area, all moves are rideable, some of the moves take practice, doing repeats will help. I clean the trail no problem but Iím used to that kind of riding.

    After riding at Centennial yesterday I rode the Jeep trails back to my house in Goni, man, thatís where we need a trail, some of those roads are rough and steep!

    There are plans for trail development, but sadly the trail building is slow to fruition.

    On Saturday we rode Clear Creek, got within a half mile of the knob before the snow was too much to ride. Next weekend, barring any new snow, it could be rideable to the knob; for sure in two weeks.

    Anyone tried poking up Ash to King or King to Ash?

    I think weíre doing a longish XC ride next weekend, might try to get up Kings to the pass, probably snowy up high, will post deets ...

    If anyone is heading toward SLC, be sure to check out Bloody Shins in Winnemucca, great XC trails, very quiet, Iíd suggest counterclockwise toward Fence Line, then work toward Giants.

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    So I spent the afternoon at Centennial. The trail is torn up badly in a few spots. It looks like there must have been an episode of heavy run-off on the "First Climb" segment and in some other places on Freedom Loop. The mud in the upper north facing bits is completely dried up. Overall a banner day with warm temps and very little wind,

    The "new trail" is getting bedded in quite well and is in very good condition. I don't really like the the new trail that much. It seems very "busy". But I must give kudos to its sustainability and engineering (except that spot about half way up that grabs my chainring almost every time).

    I like the challenge of the first "Z" on the climb. I haven't cleared it yet. Anybody else clean that spot?
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    Peavine is pretty good shape with the usual early season wet and snow spots. Poedunk, snow terraces, Bacon Strip and B-lite were mostly good. Some mud on the snow terraces and Bacon is snow free until the last 75 yards to the upper bench. Scrub brush is snowed in but it looked like people had been riding the dirt road down to Colpo Canyon or taking Over Easy. I went back down Bacon so didnít get over to the lower bench but I suspect itís wet and muddy still.

    Keystone Canyon proper is rideable but the water is flowing in some sections (it is a creek bed after all). Evans Canyon is in great shape.


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    Reno Carson Trail Report Please

    Clear Creek is rideable to The Knob. Take it easy coming down - there'll be a lot of trail users out this weekend and 7 miles won't be enough for all of them.

    If you can't ride the trail without skidding or can't stay on the trail, please ride somewhere else. The trail will still be wet Saturday but will probably be mostly dry by Sunday.

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    Anyone been up to the Clear Creek access at the golf course? Iím sure itís snowy, just wonder if itís worth the slog ďyetĒ.

    Thinking about riding up Kings tomorrow, see how far we can go before hitting snow, then wrap around to C hill.
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    Echoing Jonesjus assessment of Peavine. I felt the trails were in excellent shape for the most part. There are still some snow patches at the highest reaches and a few sections are rutted out from runoff, but all the lower stuff is good to great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopaka View Post
    Echoing Jonesjus assessment of Peavine. I felt the trails were in excellent shape for the most part. There are still some snow patches at the highest reaches and a few sections are rutted out from runoff, but all the lower stuff is good to great.
    Got up there today and would agree entirely

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    Rode up Kings Canyon the the trail head, snow free on the road to the TH, then snow covered for 50 yds is the road past the TH.

    Rode up the trail, dud four short snow hikes, nice riding, got all the way to the first major gully at ~3/4 mile, at this point the trail was snow covered for a few hundred yards, so we headed back.

    Went down the road and cut over to C Hill, it was really windy, but the trails were in good shape.
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    Whites Creek Trail system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopaka View Post
    Whites Creek Trail system?
    Iím 100 percent guessing but I bet most of it is rideable with the exception of Dry Pond to Whites Creek. That North side, especially between the pond and 1st switchback, holds snow for a long time.

    You should recon it and let us know!




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    North side of Ash to Kings is starting to melt off. Buddy rode up there this weekend and said he only hit a few small drifts on the trail. Made it up to Dog Bowl (abouts) before he had to turn around due to time constraints. So looks like we may be able to fully ride Ash to Kings within the next few weeks, especially if the warming trend keeps happening.

    Outside of that all of Ash canyon is open. Rode Creek Trail last Friday and it was absolutely sick dirt! Zero snow and everything is nice, packed and tacky currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    North side of Ash to Kings is starting to melt off. Buddy rode up there this weekend and said he only hit a few small drifts on the trail. Made it up to Dog Bowl (abouts) before he had to turn around due to time constraints. So looks like we may be able to fully ride Ash to Kings within the next few weeks, especially if the warming trend keeps happening.

    Outside of that all of Ash canyon is open. Rode Creek Trail last Friday and it was absolutely sick dirt! Zero snow and everything is nice, packed and tacky currently.
    I rode in from Kings the week before and the drifts are deep, so a couple weeks is probably optimistic unless you don't mind hiking.

    I'd gladly entertain a little ride/hike a bike this weekend on Ash to Kings or Kings to Ash...

    Also willing to ride into Clear Creek from the connector.
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