• 11-09-2010
    McKraut
    yet another "help me choose" thread
    So, I'm about 90% convinced that Motobecane is the way I want to go for my next mtb...though this would be the most serious bike I've ever had by a long shot. that said...i'm hoping to stay at that $1200 or less range... I've tried to do a bit of research on the different forks... i had looked at the '10 Moto Fantom HT Pro, and saw that it has a Revelation fork (409) but it looks like that may be a somewhat flawed fork model? It looks like lots have had problems with it, and have said the 426 Rev. is the model to have.

    Or there's the Fly Pro (if it comes back in stock) and the Fly 9357 that both have SID Race (unsure of model), but it's hard to find a specific review without a model number. And there's the Fantom HT Elite that's got a Recon 351, which seems to have good things said about it.

    And I've even considered something like the '11 Fantom 29PRO which has a Reba RL, or the "Breezer" line that uses the Fox 32 F100-RL fork.

    At the end of the day, I'm just going to be doing XC/singletrack stuff around Dallas... so I probably don't need anything crazy, just something dependable that can handle my 200 lbs on it. That said, as my skills progress, I want to have something that will still be capable a couple years from now when I'm riding it even harder. What do you think?


    2010 Motobecane Fantom Elite - $1000 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...om_elite09.htm

    2010 Motobecane Fantom Comp - $800 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...om_comp_xi.htm

    2010 Motobecane Fantom PRO - $1200 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ntom_pro08.htm

    2010 Motobecane FLY Pro - $1200 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../fly_pro_x.htm (OOS)

    2010 Breezer Thunder Comp - $1200 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...under_comp.htm

    2011 Motobecane Fantom 29PRO - $1200 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...m29_pro_xi.htm

    2010 Motobecane FLY 9357 - $1500 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...fly_9357_x.htm

    2010 Motobecane Fantom PRO Ti - $1500 - http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e/fpti_09x.htm (OOS)
  • 11-09-2010
    manabiker
    of the bikes you have listed the 2010 Moto Fantom Pro Ti has the best componets, also it's the lightest, the gearing is right, but like the 2010 Moto Fly 9357 (that gearing is questionable) they are both sold out and above your $1200 price.
    I noticed you're not considering Full Suspension, I have two FS Moto's, the Fantom Team is my main ride, the Fantom Comp is my backup, I weight 220 with gear, they work fine, I set the rear suspension up hard, it has no bob, and works great on the ruff trails I ride, that said, The Fantom Pro DS is available in all but 18.5 white color, it too is above your $1200 price, but a 28 lb full suspension XTR equiped bike worth every penny.. the more you pay the more you get, well less only in weight.
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ompro_dsIX.htm
    Happy Trails
  • 11-09-2010
    McKraut
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by manabiker
    of the bikes you have listed the 2010 Moto Fantom Pro Ti has the best componets, also it's the lightest, the gearing is right, but like the 2010 Moto Fly 9357 (that gearing is questionable) they are both sold out and above your $1200 price.
    I noticed you're not considering Full Suspension, I have two FS Moto's, the Fantom Team is my main ride, the Fantom Comp is my backup, I weight 220 with gear, they work fine, I set the rear suspension up hard, it has no bob, and works great on the ruff trails I ride, that said, The Fantom Pro DS is available in all but 18.5 white color, it too is above your $1200 price, but a 28 lb full suspension XTR equiped bike worth every penny.. the more you pay the more you get, well less only in weight.
    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ompro_dsIX.htm
    Happy Trails

    any opinions on any of those forks? Tora, Reba Race, Sid Race, Reba RL, Fox 32 F100-RL, Recon 351, Revelation 409
  • 11-09-2010
    manabiker
    The reviews on this site are good, I have the Tora 302 U turn 130mm, its a coil spring fork, kind of heavy, but it works good, then the Reba Race 120mm is light weight, easy to adjust, lots of adjustments, including a romote gate (not a lock out) so it kind of locks out but works if you need it, lower and upper air chambers so you can experiment with it until you make it work for you.
  • 11-09-2010
    McKraut
    yeah, i had considered full suspension... i guess i just thought a hardtail would typically be a good bit lighter and still sufficient for trails around here. looks like there is a 2011 Fly Pro in stock: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...fly_pro_x9.htm just wish i could figure out if that is a good model of the SID fork...?
  • 11-09-2010
    ssalmons
    Go for the 29PRO, most people find the 29" wheel bike easier to ride and this model is speced with excellent components. Or better yet, save yourself $200 with this 9 speed model: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...om29pro_SL.htm
  • 11-09-2010
    BigSteve in CO
    I prefer the feel of Fox forks over RS. I vote for the Breezer based on that.
  • 11-11-2010
    McKraut
    is the 2011 Fly Pro already sold out? It shows available at first, but once you've added it to your cart, it then eventually tells you it's sold out. And just when I thought I had made a decision. Looks like I'm back to looking around again.
  • 11-11-2010
    h2o-x
    Since you asked for opinions, I'll give you mine. Go with the new Fantom Pro 29. I have the Pro SL from last year. It is a fantastic bike. The geometry makes it a nice XC trail bike, and it handles everything, from technical and grinding climbs to technical and fast descents. The spec's are mid to high level, and the frame is nice enough to upgrade components if you are so inclined.

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...m29_pro_xi.htm
  • 11-12-2010
    McKraut
    hmm, yeah i had been looking at that bike as well. i've never really ridden a 29er more than just in a parking lot at my LBS... so i'm not sure what i'll think of it on the trail, but i would imagine i'll like it. and the fact that it has a Reba RL doesn't hurt. it's probably either the Fantom 29er PRO (Reba RL), Fantom HT Elite (Recon 351) or Fantom PRO (Revelation 409). i'm still a little hesitant with getting the revelation fork, just because i've read some bad things about that particular model, but bikes direct assures me that those affected forks were replaced.
  • 11-12-2010
    h2o-x
    McK-

    I will never go back to a 26" bike after owning a 29er for a little over a year. I like the way the bigger wheels climb better and roll more easily over bumps and other rough terrain. I had a Stumpjumper Epic full suspension before this Fantom, and I never miss the rear suspension.

    H
  • 11-12-2010
    TwoHeadsBrewing
    I will second the 29er vote, especially if you're set on a hardtail. I will never buy another 26" hardtail after riding my 29er for the past 6 or so months. Aside from getting beat up on rough downhill runs, it climbs great and lets you carry a lot of momentum through corners. My old GF 26" HT was a fine bike, but I'm much faster on the 29er. I'd opt for a FS 26" or HT 29er. But if you don't have super rough technical terrain, you don't need a full suspension bike. Even on the rough trails you can still haul a$$ it's just not as comfortable.

    As others have said the Fantom Pro 29er is a great buy. Reba SL 100mm, XT/XTR derailers, 185mm rotors with Avid Elixir R. For $1200 it's hard to go wrong...
  • 11-15-2010
    McKraut
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h2o-x
    McK-

    I will never go back to a 26" bike after owning a 29er for a little over a year. I like the way the bigger wheels climb better and roll more easily over bumps and other rough terrain. I had a Stumpjumper Epic full suspension before this Fantom, and I never miss the rear suspension.

    H

    Quote:

    I will second the 29er vote, especially if you're set on a hardtail. I will never buy another 26" hardtail after riding my 29er for the past 6 or so months. Aside from getting beat up on rough downhill runs, it climbs great and lets you carry a lot of momentum through corners. My old GF 26" HT was a fine bike, but I'm much faster on the 29er. I'd opt for a FS 26" or HT 29er. But if you don't have super rough technical terrain, you don't need a full suspension bike. Even on the rough trails you can still haul a$$ it's just not as comfortable.

    As others have said the Fantom Pro 29er is a great buy. Reba SL 100mm, XT/XTR derailers, 185mm rotors with Avid Elixir R. For $1200 it's hard to go wrong...

    hmm... my girlfriend ended up going with the Fantom Pro full suspension and I went with the Fly 9357... both of which are 26". i really wonder now if one of us should have gotten a 29er instead; i was this close to pulling the trigger on the 29er Fantom Pro... but I just kept thinking the weight savings would make me happy enough to make it worth going with the Fly 9357 instead. i guess i could always keep the Fly and still pick up the Fantom Pro29er... but that's a lot of money for me to be sinking, especially just getting back into riding.