My '04 Fantom XC powder coated last year. Quite heavy at 32.5 lbs..... I use it as a training bike so when I race with my Scalpel, it feels feathery light. All components upgraded except the frame and rear shocks. I like the aggressive geometry and tight cockpit of this moto.
This is (was) my fantom. I recently robbed some of the parts off it to build up a Haro sonix VL120. I'm looking forward to getting this mangle back operational though. I think the moto's are one of the most underated bikes out there. Not race bikes (as you can see I tried it anyway), but certainly all mountain work horses.
Oh, someone emailed me a question. They would like to buy a FS fantom comp frame on ebay and would like to know if the tires that he already had would work with this frame. 26in wtb wheels and 2.7 tires.
Will a 2.7 tire work with that frame?
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Oh, someone emailed me a question. They would like to buy a FS fantom comp frame on ebay and would like to know if the tires that he already had would work with this frame. 26in wtb wheels and 2.7 tires.
Will a 2.7 tire work with that frame?
wow 2.7 is mega wide....i honestly dont know why you'd want anything that wide, but right now i run 2.1's on my fantom comp ds, and i'd say there's 3/8" of clearance at least on each side of the tire, so if they do in fact ACTUALLY measure 2.7" wide, then yes they SHOULD work...that is if in fact my 2.1" tires are actually 2.1".....
wow 2.7 is mega wide....i honestly dont know why you'd want anything that wide, but right now i run 2.1's on my fantom comp ds, and i'd say there's 3/8" of clearance at least on each side of the tire, so if they do in fact ACTUALLY measure 2.7" wide, then yes they SHOULD work...that is if in fact my 2.1" tires are actually 2.1".....
This is not for me. I got a email and someone was asking me about this. here is the email received.
"Hello Guys,
Looking for some help, I’m looking to buy the 2007 FANTOM COMP DS from this Link in Ebay:
If that size tire wont fit. Then how about the maximum tire size he can run. I would like to give him some kinda answer.
Fred.
well like i said, in THEORY it will fit...b/c the opening is large enough....but i would not suggest running that size tire b/c you do want more space than what he'll end up with between the tire and the chainstay...for mud clearance, etc....if his wheel gets the least bit out of true, he wont even be able to LIMP off the trail, b/c there's no tolorence there....see with a 2.1 tire you could atleast ride to the car if it's not INSANELY bent...just some stuff for you to pass along to him....tell him good luck, but dont use that tire....
Not sure about a 2.7 and IMHO, I would not go wider than a 2.3 for several reasons as snobrder5 mentioned..... it is just not practical at all. Even if it fits, you will have no clearance whatsoever to allow for mud, etc.
Thanks all! I sent the information along. I told him that the standard tire for that frame was a 2.1 so a 2.3 would be the maximum I would go. Told him new tires are cheep and that was a good deal on that frame and said good luck on his buying decision.
Fred.
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I am interested in buying a Fantom Elite soon. DOes anyone have pictures of the 16" frame? Thanks.
I’m sorry, I personally don’t have any photos of the 16” frame. However, my fantom has the 18” frame. I realize it’s not exactly what you wanted but it does give you some idea.
Photo’s above… It is a awesome bike.
Fred.
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I will post some pics in about a week. I will be taking my 2 month old Fly Pro on an epic through the Maah Daah Hey this weekend, with a couple buddies. Hopefully everything holds up for five days.
Revalation 426 Fork, Sun Ringle Charger wheel set w/ Kenda Karma 2.2, Juicy 7's 185mm front and 160mm back, 06 XT F/R Derailluer and Shifters, Race Face Evolve XC Crank, Sram 990 cassette, XTR chain, Evolve Seat Post, Deus stem, Deus headset, Carbon riser bar, Race face grips, Rocket V STL saddle, Race Face good and evil grips.
Planned upgrades
MC 3.R
Fantom Comp
Reba Race Dual Air Uturn, Sun Ringle DS1-XC with Dirty Flea hubs, FSA Team issue carbon crank,Juicy Carbon brakes, 07 XTR F/R Derailluer and Shifters, 07 XT Cassette, Chris King headset, Richey WSC, stem, seat post, flatbar, Rocket V STL saddle. Hope seat QR
Not sure about a 2.7 and IMHO, I would not go wider than a 2.3 for several reasons as snobrder5 mentioned..... it is just not practical at all. Even if it fits, you will have no clearance whatsoever to allow for mud, etc.
2.2 in Kenda's bearly fit on my bike, the front FD kind rubs when in the granny gear.
congrats on the ride Clumpy...I see you finally got it. Give us a ride report in a new thread when you get a chance! Hope you are enjoying it your bike...Chris
Just bought this bike a few weeks ago and am using it for my cardio/street ride for now. Bought it from local bikesdirect store. Very pleased with the bike, store service and the speed of a hardtail again.
So far I have swapped tires out to Kenda 80psi Klimax Lites. Swapped seatpost out for Thomson (just inserted post in frame no ride yet. will need to adjust), saddle for WTB RocketV, pedals to ATAC XS and chain to PC991 .
Will swap grips to OURY lock-on's soon. May even add some barends. Nice bike this.
Just my 2 cents..... instead of going for oury lock-on and a separate bar end, try Ergon grips with bar ends. It prevents the numbing of your hands from extended rides. Works especially if you're old like me that has arthritis or people with CTS. It costs a little bit more but worth every penny. It's basically designed for racing and works well.
.. spooky.
Exactly what I needed to know without having to ask. Been suffering from CTS for years -it's why I was out of cycling for so long and can only ride the Yamaha for short distances. Great call there nico2me, I'll make that swap instead.
:........... Been suffering from CTS for years -it's why I was out of cycling for so long and can only ride the Yamaha for short distances.............
I know the feeling and share your sentiments..... until a racer with CTS mentioned it to me during a race. Now, if only they will make one for a motorcycle, I would be ecstatic !!!!!
Here's my small frame build . Bought the frame on ebay and pieced it together. This is now my backup bike . Nothing special. WTB seat,Wtb grips,WTB speed disc,thomson seatpost,thomson stem,titec bars,deore shifters,xt front and rear derailures,iso flow cranks,Rock shock 3.3mc, marzocchi am1sl forks. Stem and seatpost were changed after picture.
My I suggest someone with some clout get with the powers that be and see about making
this a "Sticky Thread"..I know the new members go picture shopping (old members too )
and it's always an eye catcher when it's at the top of the list..
Blackburn Mountain Cage with water bottle for me and Schwinn Expandable Cage to carry my son's water water bottle on bike path rides.
Unlike most bashguards that replace the big ring, this one allows you to protect your big ring too.
A strip of old inner tube, a little over an inch wide and two feet long, wrapped around the chainstay makes a great protector and costs nothing. Tucking the final end is difficult, but leaves a reasonably nice look compared to the zip ties that some people use.
Here's my motobecane 700 DS that I built up two years ago. Romic rear, marzocchi 130mm Drop-off fork, fsa stem, race face xc cranks, changed from 8 speed to 9 speed. Started as a beginner bike and turned it into a fully functional All Mountain bike.
cyberguy, that's actually a pretty sweet ride! i've never been a big DS series fan, but yours is really nice...what weight spring are you running? i've been toying with the idea of switching my air shock to a coil, but i think at 5" of travel, with the 3.3:1 leverage ratio, i'd need a 1100lb spring for my weight.....which is pretty unheard of for a 6.5" shock....how much rear travel are you getting out of that DS frame? and does it track fairly well on the rocky and technical downhills? nice bike man!
cyberguy, that's actually a pretty sweet ride! i've never been a big DS series fan, but yours is really nice...what weight spring are you running? i've been toying with the idea of switching my air shock to a coil, but i think at 5" of travel, with the 3.3:1 leverage ratio, i'd need a 1100lb spring for my weight.....which is pretty unheard of for a 6.5" shock....how much rear travel are you getting out of that DS frame? and does it track fairly well on the rocky and technical downhills? nice bike man!
Hey snobrder5,
I'm running an 800 lb coil on a romic-d 165mm. I'm 230 lbs and the shock is everything I need it to be. I thought about changing to a 5 inch shock in the rear but I asked the local bike shop and he didn't recommend it because he said it would throw the geometry of the bike all off. The bike tracks well and but with the new rear shock it eats up rock gardens like a mad-dog! I can keep up with my buddies 5" specialized enduro all day in the rough stuff. The only thing that is still original on the bike now is the wheelset. Which, in my opinion are some of the toughest rims around (Alex racers edge 32H). The only downer is the weight. Good luck finding that massive coil! Thanks for the compliments. mtbauctions.com
Help me out here guys. I've got some great pictures of a self built Motobecane Phantom29 equip with some nice higher ends components (Reba, Blunt Rims, Stylo Crank, BB7"s) but I am having trouble figuring out how to post them to this forum. Suggestions/directions would be very helpful...thanks!
If you look up about 5 posts you may notice that your photos are up. I did it the same day as the other thread.
However, if you still want to do it yourself… I think you got it but… If they are the same size like the ones you sent me in the email you will need to resize them… Because they are way too big for this forum. Try 600 x 400
Fred.
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My 2008 600HT in Matte Black of course. I was out today on some trails we are building. Stopped riding long enough to catch my breath and snap the pics i keep forgetting to take.
Yes I did to a Mavic. I also changed the saddle, the other one was ok for training but hard, so I went to a more comfortable WTB. I rode the Kenda tires until they were slicks, then went tubeless to Pythons. I am now replacing the straight bar with a 40mm rise carbon Monkeylite. I got Crank Bro Smarty pedals, and may get the Crank Bro 75 mm adjustable seat post ...kinda pricey though.
Clumpy Mold, I like the Beemer, the Mercedes, the Cycle and the 700ds. It seems like you can afford some pretty good toys. So what's up with the 20 year old washing machine???
here's my 07 700 DS which is almost 1 year old. Now that I know what kind of riding I like I am currently shopping for new rims/tires, stem and pedals.. I couldve taken a pic of it all clean, but wheres the fun in that
THE bike DSC03925.JPG
THE bike with 25.4 Monkey Lite XC low-rise bars and dual control XTR shifters/hydraulic brakes DSC03926.JPG
THE bike with 2007 Fox F100x, custom-built Mavic 819 rims w/red Chris King hubs and tubeless Fire XC Pros, and red Salsa skewers DSC03927.JPG
THE bike with SRAM 990 (11-34) cassette and hollow pin chain and XTR (low normal) rapid rise RD DSC03928.JPG
it cuts the trail like a hot knife thru butter. every pedal stroke is applied directly to the bike. I raced a road tri (in Galena, IL), rec'd many compliments AND kept up with roadies.
considering it is 10 pounds lighter than my old steel hardtail, is fairly gentle on my sit bones. I understand the critics "twitchy on downhills" statements, but that's due to the light weight and you can learn how to control your bike.
BOTTOM LINE: it delivers the "softer than aluminum" ride you expect from Ti and it is lighter/faster than steel. IT IS SICK. I have and wll continue to recommend Bikes Direct to those looking for the best bang for your buck.
You may end up swapping that Skye saddle it broke my arse! But I know how you feel except yours is even more plush since I have last years aluminum model. Tear those trails up.
Finally, I can post some pictures. This was the new bikes maiden voyage. It was amazing. Riding a bike of this caliber is like music for the soul. Here are some crappy point and shoot pics. I LOVE THIS BIKE.
Repost from earlier when I put it on the wrong page.
Here's a few pics of my 07 Fantom Comp DS. This bike was purchased new and complete in January of 07. Since then, I've been upgrading parts as they've worn, and as the urge hits me. The only things that are still stock (other than the frame), are the headset, rear shock, and front fork-although I have changed out the coil spring in the fork for a stiffer one. If you care, you can do a google search for the original specs on the 07 to see what I've upgraded from. My moto has served me well, it's taken my spills and a few spectacular crashes and has yet to fail me. Although I do have some paint scratches due to my sometimes ineptitude on the trails, overall, there is nothing wrong with this bike. The ONLY issue I've had was failure of my rear shock, but that was handled and rebuilt by SRAM under warranty. Using the HIGHLY accurate method of standing on bathroom scales, then picking the bike up and subtracting the difference, it weighs in at approx 30lbs.
The following is a list of the parts I've upgraded to
08 Shimano XT M770 shifters
08 Shimano XT M770 front derailleur
08 Shimano XT M771 rear derailleur
08 RaceFace Deus XC 31.8 100mm stem
08 RaceFace Evolve XC Low Riser bar 31.8
07 RaceFace Evolve XC seatpost
WTB Rocket V saddle
WTB MotoRaptor 2.1 tires
Mavic Crossride Disc wheelset
07 Avid Juicy 7 brakes 160mm front and rear
FSA Afterburner crankset 175mm
Lizard Skin Peaty lock on grips with ODI thugplugs
Crank Bros Smarty pedals
SRAM PG990 cassette which will be replaced before my next ride due to bending of a cog
SRAM PC991 chain
Nice! The silver color stands out too.
I want to know if you can ride up that hill too.
I wasn't too sure about the silver when I first got it. At the time, I really wanted the Fantom Elite DS in gloss black, but it was beyond my budget. The silver has grown on me though.
You can't ride up that hill, as the trail is one way to avoid mishaps. However, as soon as you reach the bottom, there is an immediate transition to an uphill, the same height and just as steep as that.
Well after a year of having my bike I finally figured out what stuff I wanted to upgrade to.
Mavic wheels
Kenda upfront and Specialized in the rear (figuring out which ones I like the best. So far Specialized)
crankbrothers 5050 pedals
ODI clamp on grips (really like em)
Race Face EVOLVE AM STEM incoming in the mail soon..
Within the next 3 months I hope to have it repainted (probably white) and a new front shock.
Most stuff purchased at my LBS which is important IMO.
Here is my 600HT. I purchased the frame and added stuff from another bike I had. I have recently added (not pictured):
Crank Brothers 5050x pedals
SRAM 991 chain
Hope Seat Collar (red)
Hope Bar Ends (red)
Hope Skewers (red)
FSA Carbon Fiber Top Cap
20mm Carbon Fiber headset spacer
Avid Rolamajig
Continental Town and Country tires.
I also cut down the frame pump bracket in order to center the pump in the frame. Since I no longer have a need for a water bottle carrier due to the camelbak.
hey Agent, I'm really liking the looks of that stem. What's the rise and length and all? I've been thinking want to try a different stem on my Fantom Comp HT. From the look of that stem on your bike it looks like it's along the lines of what I think I'm looking for. Awesome looking bike, btw. If I had the extra cash to by a full suspension bike, I'd put some serious thought into an XXXds.
and not to post things in the wrong place, but does anyone know what size clamp i'd need to buy to use the Ritchey SC handle bar that came on the bike and also what the length/rise of the stock stem of my Fantom Comp is? I think if If i can get a slightly shorter stem, and maybe something with more rise it'd make a difference in my control while climbing.
@ Trek - Thanks for the comments bro. The 2nd pic shows the size right underneath "Thomson". It is 15 Degrees x 110mm long x 25.4 mm diameter, SM-E107. I think it is the toughest and most beautiful stem on the market IMO. Oh and as for size of handlebars, they come in two flavors. One is 25.4mm (like mine) and the other is 31.8mm (handlebars are way bigger in the center compared to the rest of the bar) I know kolyan bought a Ritchey adjustable stem and he can probably go to 30 degrees. Maybe that might work out better for you
oh yea, I could have looked a little harder, duh. thanks agent, i've been looking at stems on price point, I'll be posting pics of the Fantom Comp once I upgrade,
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.. spooky.
she's purrrdeee!
07 Fantom Comp DS
