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    Fantom 29er Hardtail

    Is this geometry more XC or Trail?

    FANTOM 29ER HYDROFORMED AL FRAME GEOMETRY

    How does it compare to the Rockhopper 29er, which is listed as a trail bike?

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bi...pert-29/106299

    I'm considering the MB Fantom 29er Elite vs. The Rockhopper Expert

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    On that Specialized, 71 degree head tube angle and they call that a trail bike? Everything has gone slack these days...

    By that standard, the Fantom would be more trail than the Specialized.

    But, the Specialized has got a shorter chain stay length though... The 18" CS on the Fathom is pretty long.

    What are you planning to ride with the bike that requires "trail" geo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk1971 View Post
    On that Specialized, 71 degree head tube angle and they call that a trail bike? Everything has gone slack these days...

    By that standard, the Fantom would be more trail than the Specialized.

    But, the Specialized has got a shorter chain stay length though... The 18" CS on the Fathom is pretty long.

    What are you planning to ride with the bike that requires "trail" geo?
    Good question. Maybe I'm not understanding what they mean when they say trail. I guess where I am it's mostly bumpy double track and rooty single track.

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    All these categories are IMO just marketing labels anyway.

    I'd go with whichever has the longer fork travel. That Fantom Elite has a 120mm fork, while the Spesh has a 100mm (80mm for the small frame). I'd say the Fantom is more "trail" based on this and the head tube angle.

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    I'd say both of those are more XC oriented. The gravity 29point series will be a little more trail oriented. Shorter chainstay and slacker HT angle. Not much though..
    "a hundred travel books isn't worth one real trip"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk1971 View Post
    All these categories are IMO just marketing labels anyway.

    I'd go with whichever has the longer fork travel. That Fantom Elite has a 120mm fork, while the Spesh has a 100mm (80mm for the small frame). I'd say the Fantom is more "trail" based on this and the head tube angle.
    Is 120 mm travel unusual for a Hardtail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjcobra View Post
    Is 120 mm travel unusual for a Hardtail?
    My Transition Trans AM has a 130mm fork. That's an All Mtn hard tail, if that helps.


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