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    ds pro monarch 3.3

    I find it to be nearly impossible to attach my shock pump to the valve on the monarch 3.3 in my ds pro. it is situated in the bike to where the valve faces towards the rear of the bike. It is in bet/w the two suspension rail deals...whatever they are called. Any suggestions? Any tips or tricks? I thought of spinning the shock around in order to make the valve face towards the front of the bike, however, that would leave the lock out adjustments facing the wrong way.

    Help me out here. My fingers aren't small enough to fully tighten the shock pump as it is so tucked in bet/w the rails.

    thanks

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    if it swivels like on the 3.2, you can undo the top shock bolt, (if you put the bolt back in the rear hole you get 5 inches of travel, but you'll have to increase the air pressure in the shock too) pull the shock down then swivel the intake valve to the front, I hope it works for you.

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    Can it be mounted upside down and still function properly? I have the MC3.3 mounted this way so I can access the valve when needed.
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    from the pictures I'm seeing the air valve has a swivel, just like on my RS Monarch 4.2, and you can turn it to the front then remount it, and it should be on the top facing forward along with the other knobs. So you can use all of them. Thats the way it works with my RS 4.2..

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    Flipped Monarch 3.3 in DS Pro...

    Thanks, Montanamtb, I was just going to post the same question for the same bike/same shock (Pro w/Monarch 3.3)

    Forget my fat fingers, none of my shock pump chucks could even approach that valve with the shock mounted in the stock location, so I tried 2 things (also suggested by others above):

    1. Unmount top of shock, swing valve so that it points forward, remount top of shock - turned out that this solves the valve access issue, but you cannot put the locking lever in the "Max Gate" setting as the valve is now in the way. If you don't plan on using this setting, this is an easy way to go.

    2. Flip the shock upside down in the mount (Do this by swapping the hardware from top to bottom) - I recommend this way as it got me riding, and has worked well this past week over 60 mi/9k climbing. The only caveat I have here is that there is *very little* clearance between the valve cap and the lower shock mount on the frame in the 4" position when the valve is tucked back for riding, like a thick piece of paper's worth. Clearance would be greater at the 3" position, but I haven't tried the 5" position, so I'm not sure that the valve could be safely stowed in the 5" position. Clearance for the valve increases with compression, so riding around seems OK, but if there is ever any play in the suspension, that valve seems very vulnerable in there.

    Actually, I was going to post to see if I were the only one having this issue -> seems unlikely given the number of models using this frame, but I hadn't seen anything in the forums. Also, must be something different about the controls/geometry of the 4.2 and MC3.3(?) that eliminates the problem.

    Good luck and enjoy your new bike! Mine has been great!

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    I would think that it does matter if it is upside, the shock that is. I could be wrong. I took out the bolt holding the top of the shock on, rotated the valve to face forward and reattached. There is just barely enough room for the valve to face forward. Works for me!

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    Do not leave that valve facing forward ,they can break off.It really only takes a minute to undo the top of the shock to add air. My 2 cents.....

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    here are some pictures of my Motobecanes RS one is a 3.2 the other is a 4.2 both have the air valve facing forward the 3.2 is on a fixed and mounted right under the rocker, the 4.2 is on a swivel. .I haven't had any problems with either one.
    the first pics are of the fixed 3.2
    <img src="https://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac122/manabiker/PA050005.jpg">
    <img src="https://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac122/manabiker/PA050006.jpg">
    This is the 4.2 its mounted forward on a swivel,
    <img src="https://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac122/manabiker/PA050001.jpg">
    <img src="https://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac122/manabiker/PA050002.jpg">

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    There is room for it to be up front. Not much but there is room...especially if you stay in mid gate which is where I am anyway. Even w/ the shock fully open there is room...

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    keep a leash on the valve

    make sure to secure the swivel valve if it faces forwards
    You are going to break it off sooner or later if you don't secure it...
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    I'd like to know how it's going to get broken, I posted pics of my two bikes above, the 3.2 Rock Shox is stationary facing forward directly under the suspension arm, the 4.2 Rock Shox is on a swivel facing forward, I have over 500 miles on the 4.2 RS over 130 miles on the 3.2 RS and no problems, if anyone would have a problem it would be me..
    I know it looks like it might happen but it just doesn't. The suspension rocker goes up not down, or the 3.2 RS would be broken long ago, it is possitioned from the factory right under the suspension arm.

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    I have read about others breaking theirs ........ good luck.

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    The suspension rocker goes up ?? No way dude.....

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    Look at the pictures of my Fantom Comp, the 3.2 Rock Shox Ario air valve is possitioned right under the rocker, if it does come down it sure don't knock of the valve, the last pic is my Fantom Team and it can't get knocked off that one either.


    <img src="https://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac122/manabiker/PA100004.jpg">

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    <img src="https://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac122/manabiker/PA050002.jpg">
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    If that valve gets pushed to the right some how, and your suspenion cycles.........bye bye valve.

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    Manabiker, look this up. On the Motobecane forum, page 7, date 10-07-2009 by gdpolk-a tread titled " First good ride on my Fantom pro DS "

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    IF is a big word, and IF it did get pushed to the side I'd have to replace the air valve at the most, IF it got knocked off, no big deal IF I can handle a few tools, IF I could afford it, IF I was dumb enough to let that happen, When and IF I put air it in I just push it to the left, no big deal. IF you understand.
    I'll let you know IF it ever gets knocked off !!!

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    Wow , guy tries to help out and look what it gets him .

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    Thank you floydlippencott.......

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    Exactly!!! I gave the OP the soulution, and the OP is good with it, and this guy don't approve, all I did was try to help, LOL!!!!! why are you following me around??? just like to be negative I figure..LOL!! and in the Motobecane forum?? I thought you didn't like Motobecanes, you must have had a change of heart, and want to buy one now, eh?? LOL!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manabiker
    Exactly!!! I gave the OP the soulution, and the OP is good with it, and this guy don't approve, all I did was try to help, LOL!!!!! why are you following me around??? just like to be negative I figure..LOL!! and in the Motobecane forum?? I thought you didn't like Motobecanes, you must have had a change of heart, and want to buy one now, eh?? LOL!!!!



    Just so the info is correct : I have never posted anywhere that I do not like MOTO's , you are the one who made that leap . I will however say that I don't like you , you resemble a two year old that is not getting their way and throwing a fit over it . Your knowledge of things bike related is only exceeded by your spelling skills . MIKE157 tried to clue you in on something that you had no clue about , all you do in turn is rant , way to go . Bet he never tries to help you out again . Have a nice day .

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    Oh I can't spell,, LOL escuse me..LOL!! only thing I like about you is those big tits..LOL!! he wasn't helping me out and neirher are you, you're just posting negative sh-t. I did have a good ride today..maybe you need one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldassracer
    make sure to secure the swivel valve if it faces forwards
    You are going to break it off sooner or later if you don't secure it...




    This , the problem is not exclusive to Moto's , it is a common issue on some other frames also .

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    Ok, so I finally bought the DS Pro! But I'm having this issue with the Monarch 3.3...

    1.) Keeping the shock in the "UP" position keeps the pump from attaching to the valve. BUT in my opinion, it is the safest position for the air valve to be in (I'll explain in a little bit on why this is). As Manabiker and JPaul said a few post above, the option of keeping the air valve out is possible, but "Max Gate" is no longer accessible (which is important to me) so that's a no no.

    2.) So after looking at some pictures of the 2011 pictures at bikes direct (and as some said here in the forums) I tried to flip the shock "UPSIDE DOWN." At first, I thought this is going to work! BUT I soon found out as JPaul said (and I can confirm) the shock in the 5" position is extremely tight against the lower shock mount! It's so tight that the air valve bends a little as I lock the bolts in place. On top of that I also can't swivel it out which defeats the purpose of me inverting the shock . I'm actually afraid that it might break off if I keep it in this position...

    3) Hence, I resorted to flipping the shock back in the "UP" position in order to prevent it from breaking off. Like MIKE157 said, it looks like I have to unbolt the top shock mount bolt whenever I want to put air in it...

    Does anyone have any other solution to this? Other than that, this bike is great! Will take pictures and post later !

    PS - By the way I have the small frame size (42cm) which could be the reason for this. Do other people with other frame size have this issue? Also it was a pain in the butt getting the stinkin bolts out from the shock to flip it! Resorted to using some brute strength and carefully tapping it out with a rubber mallet.
    Last edited by SI3; 04-18-2011 at 08:24 PM.

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