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    Who's a WORBA Member?

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    I....am...not a member. However, your post reminded me that I came across their site the other day while doing some plodding about. I printed off a membership form, and will be sending my application w/fee out later today. Can't see how I couldn't support an organization like this, even as a broke ass student

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    Chicago here. But I am a big fan of what you guys do...

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    So there's like 3 of us and a guy from chicago?

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    maybe if they show some semblance of life but since the last post on the worba page was december of 2008 I think I will invest in my local club
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    Its true....the WORBA website has been pretty worthless for quite awhile. I was hoping that this poll would start a discussion about what role WORBA plays.

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    Yeah, I'd love to hear about it Gomez...what role does WORBA play? I just sent in membership dues, so it sounds like we'll be able to fill a car pretty soon!

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    I was hoping somebody could fill us all in. I thought CORP was part of WORBA, but now I'm even more confused than usual.

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    I'm CAMBA & IMBA member. Not an official paying WORBA cardholder, but I do enjoy the company of all the WORBA members when I'm helping them build trail at the southern Kettle.
    Looking forward to building more new singletrack there in 2010.

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    unorganized thoughts. Great Post Gomez. WORBA needs more visibility and recognition.

    WORBA is a statewide advocacy group for Mountain biking.

    WORBA acts as both a clearing house and sounding board for issues that can effect mt biking in Wisconsin at the State Political level.

    CORP is a free-standing club but also belongs to WORBA. (Chapter of).

    WORBA has been instrumental in lobbying the State Gov't to ensure mt bikers have seat on the State ad-hoc trails committee. (imagine if all trail decisions for State land were made by people who know of road bikes and rail trails, (and thought rail trail was the same as singletrack). This one accomplishment is huge.
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    2 of the past 3 years WORBA has been able to act as an agent to forward a $5,000 REI grant (each), to both Metro milwaukee and S Kettle single track trail building efforts.

    In addition, WORBA (I don't know how for how many years), has provided at least five $300 grants to individual Clubs (CORP for example has received this) for trail building efforts. Another example, LAMBA (the Roche trail), has been supported by WORBA grants for tornado clean-up.

    WORBA helps, financially, to send interested WORBA members to IMBA mt bike Summits (Washington DC, Missouri, Georgia..). The members come back and report on what they learn. Often bringing back references to supporting documentation on sustainable trails, (ie. mt biking is not a highly erosive activity) that can be provided to local trail managers. Political and BIke industry connections are made, cultivated and strengthened. (These people are from all over the State, and this is another example how WORBA is willing to help Clubs from all around the State.)

    WORBA (I think) has supported the WEMS race series financially in past years.

    WORBA is made up of volunteers. WORBA is an affiliate of IMBA.

    I agree the WORBA web site is very poor. It has not been updated for ages. Its lack of updated may cause a perception WORBA is not very active, which is hugely unfortunate and would be inaccurate. WORBA should be updating the site listing issues they are aware of, plans of actions, successes, and non-successes. My speculation is that there have been more pressing issues the leader have been working on (and there have).

    Oh, I am a member, LAMBA is a Chapter.

    Trust me, dollars sent to WORBA are not wasted. Much good could be done with more donations and members.

    Charlie

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    Thanks, Charlie!

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    If you ride on any of the legal trails in Milwaukee County (and that includes Crystal Ridge, the Alpha Trail and Oak Hill and the ever expanding Menomone River Trails), thank a Metro Mountain Biker.

    If you have ever raced at Crystal Ridge in Franklin on a Wednesday night in the summer, thank the Metro Mountain Bikers that have been hosting this series for 13 years.

    If you ever raced the WEMS Race in Franklin, you supported Metro Mountain Bikers.

    The trails that the Alterra WORS race are held on every year in Franklin are designed, built and maintained by Metro Mountain Bikers.

    When the Milwaukee River Trails finally get legal status along with upgrades and regular maintenance, it will be due to the activities of Metro Mountain Bikers. (We've been going to meetings on this single trail system for over 3 years already)

    If you think it's important to "promote and protect environmentally responsible mountain biking opportunities in the State", then you, like every Metro Mountain Biker, support WORBA's core mission.

    Oh yeah, in case you don't already know, Metro Mountain Bikers IS the Milwaukee area Chapter of WORBA..
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    WORBA in recent years has taken a very behind the scenes approach to advocacy. Many people know of their local clubs, which are WORBA chapters. There are several local chapters that have had huge success with trails, partly because they were affiliated with the name. I have been involved with WORBA as a volunteer and later on the board for 8 years or so, and during that time chapters have been involved in:

    -Many new trails at southern kettle
    -New, legitimate trails in Milwaukee County
    -Madison area trails, including Blue Mound State Park
    -Singletrack at Standing Rocks in Stevens Point
    -Singletrack in Kewaunee
    -New trails at Greenbush
    -La Crosse area trails
    -Eau Claire area Trails
    -Levis Trow trails
    -Rhinelander area trails
    -Hartman Creek State Park
    -Langlade area trails
    -Singletrack at CAMBA
    -Many other trails at many other areas in the state
    The projects above represent 100+ miles of new singletrack in Wisconsin.

    Trust me, WORBA is not taking credit for all of the above, because first and foremost there are dedicated local volunteers who lead and dedicate themselves to trailbuilding. But in some of these cases, it was prior work from WORBA, or the right calls from people to reassure some land managers that swung the pendulum in favor of these projects.

    One of the reasons that the website at WORBA.org is not very current, is due to the large list of projects above. When WORBA was founded, Mountain Bikers were new, and were being kicked off of land. Through tireless work by the early volunteers, mountain biking was able to gain a foothold in the state. As we sit now, there are probably more trail projects available to do in this State than we have the volunteers to build (or volunteers in the right area). Instead of being at odds with the DNR as in the past, trails staff from the DNR regularly in is contact with and works with WORBA as an organization to work on issues. Basically, mountain bikers in wisconsin have been hugely successful in recent years, and the lack of crisis on trail access has meant that involvement with WORBA has waned a bit. While it is still a crucial organization, it serves as a clearinghouse for information, as well as a way for trail builders across the state to connect with each other. Money collected through memberships has largely been funneled to things like sending people to the IMBA summits, Trail Grants, grants for education for DNR staff and to fund visits by IMBA, etc. The current leadership has felt we were better to put our money into the trails as opposed to the website.

    Membership is still very important to keep the momentum growing. Consider joining. Also get involved. New faces and ideas would be very welcome to WORBA, or with your local chapter. WORBA is 100% a volunteer organization, and it takes all mountain bikers to support the trails in this state.

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    I think WORBA needs to rethink their "behind the scenes approach". To many people, your website seems dead and inactive. How do you expect people to send money and support your cause if it doesn't look like you're doing anything.

    Myself, as well as most other CORP members feel that WORBA is all but dead. If you truly are busy working on trail advocacy issues, you are doing a very poor job informing and communicating with the local chapters.

    In this era of electronic communication, your website should be the most important tool for communicating with your members. As a person with pretty limited computer skills, I still find it an easy way to connect with other people of like minds. Good communication will go a long way in inspiring and creating enthusiasm in a person. I have finally given up visiting your site because there is never anything new.

    FYI- my member # is 1400

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    I hope this thread gets read by every mountain biker in Wisconsin. There's some great information about how fortunate we are.....and how many opportunities we have to volunteer to make our trails even better.

    The second generation of our sport is coming of age. I bet most of them don't know about the history of trail advocacy or the struggles that trail advocates went through to achieve the rich and diverse trails that Wisconsin enjoys today. We have an opportunity to inform the next generation on how we all got here and engage them in sustaining and improving the riding opportunities we all enjoy so much.

    I'd like to thank all the MTB Advocates that have worked so long and hard to build trail across the state. I've posted this before....I think trail advocates should be given the same admiration and status as pro mtb racers. These folks are the superstars of our sport that volunteer an insane number of hours, so we have places to ride. If you really want to thank them.....tell them in person...volunteer some time and participate at a trail work day at your local trail. You'll be rewarded with the opportunity to meet folks with the same passion for riding and discover the feeling, one gets, when you ride a section of trail that you help build.

    I hope more trail advocates come forward and post their thoughts and plans, so every rider in the state will have the information to allow them to participate in trail care events. Participation in trail work days should become part and parcel of mountain bike culture.

    I hope this all doesn't sound too preachy. None of us like to be told what they should do......but think of it this way. Spring thaw is the perfect time to volunteer. We can't ride the trails, so why not build some new ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    The second generation of our sport is coming of age. I bet most of them don't know about the history of trail advocacy or the struggles that trail advocates went through to achieve the rich and diverse trails that Wisconsin enjoys today. We have an opportunity to inform the next generation on how we all got here and engage them in sustaining and improving the riding opportunities we all enjoy so much.

    God, you guys are SO preachy!!

    I'd consider myself very second gen. Only started riding a couple years ago. Really, I'm pretty disappointed I didn't get the bug earlier. Either way, I'm in now. I'll be volunteering this year for sure. I've worked extensively with our state legislators over the past two years as an advocate for technical students, and just recently concluded my Presidency of our state student government working on these issues. That time has passed for me, and I'm looking forward to my next project. Sounds like WORBA is a good group that, like any organization, will always have room to grow in a positive way.

    I've decided bikes will be most of my life for the forseeable future, so I hope we get along

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    I believe I am close to my expiration date if not already but I've made my efforts to support it over the years and try to spread some money around along with labor.

    The www site: I made a few site fixes and edits at least 5 years ago. I may have user and password that will work if somebody wants to take that on. It got passed to me from some individuals who are no longer active or living in WI. Any new volunteers? I _know_ I am not the only tech professional who rides bikes on dirt but I am neck deep as a trail boss and fund raiser right now.

    Thank you for bringing this up because the riding community needs all the support possible and I am not sure that enough people know how surprisingly small bits of time and money make such a big difference.

    This volunteerism and giving stuff is not too bad, so give it a try if you have not considered it. The biggest risks are better riding and meeting decent people.

    Thanks again.

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    I'd volunteer......but the thing needs to be overhauled. Don't you need some sort of board approval for such a rad move. I don't think the board will ever let me loose on their site......but ya never know.

    Prepare for the gnomification of WORBA......just kidding

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitflogger
    I believe I am close to my expiration date if not already but I've made my efforts to support it over the years and try to spread some money around along with labor.

    The www site: I made a few site fixes and edits at least 5 years ago. I may have user and password that will work if somebody wants to take that on. It got passed to me from some individuals who are no longer active or living in WI. Any new volunteers? I _know_ I am not the only tech professional who rides bikes on dirt but I am neck deep as a trail boss and fund raiser right now.

    Thank you for bringing this up because the riding community needs all the support possible and I am not sure that enough people know how surprisingly small bits of time and money make such a big difference.

    This volunteerism and giving stuff is not too bad, so give it a try if you have not considered it. The biggest risks are better riding and meeting decent people.

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    I'd volunteer......but the thing needs to be overhauled. Don't you need some sort of board approval for such a rad move. I don't think the board will ever let me loose on their site......but ya never know.

    Prepare for the gnomification of WORBA......just kidding

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    I agree with the overhaul. We had a volunteer several years ago and he was shot down because he did not use the brand of computer and software tools favored by a few people. They are gone now and I hope nobody would look a gift horse in the mouth. I don't think the site has to be special but just have current information and easily managed.

    I also brought it up to a tech college student who needed experience but he got a real job and disappeared.

    Even gnomes with a recently up to date time stamp on their foreheads might help. The gnomes could point to some core information and local chapters etc...

    Thank you.

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    I'm about to mail in my app, but I'm wondering one thing. Where is the 'member benefits' section on the site? Do I get some sort of discounts somewhere? I found the benefits section on the imba site, but not worba.

    Gomez, you know anything about this?

    Bryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryank930
    I'm about to mail in my app, but I'm wondering one thing. Where is the 'member benefits' section on the site? Do I get some sort of discounts somewhere? I found the benefits section on the imba site, but not worba.

    Gomez, you know anything about this?

    Bryan
    Some Madison bike shops give discounts. Budget always has. The other benefits are either less obvious (grants mentioned) or all that has been done and continues to be done throughout the state.

    If you seek the chapter near you or the crew who watches over the trails near you more information should be available.

    Thank you.

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    Benefits?

    trails, access, knowledge, funding.... as described above.

    However, still an interesting question. I suggest that at every single bike shop you purchase an item at, "ask if they give a Worba discount."

    They might say "yes". Even if they say "no" it will increase awareness of some mutual benefits, and may lead to future discounts.
    Charlie

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    Yep, for quite a few years now. Got started as part of the Metro Milw Mtbeers Group.

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    I'm new to the addiction and I was not aware of such a great advocacy group. Thanks for starting this thread, and for the info that has been shared. My family application went in the mail today.

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    Personally, I think it's kinda sad a person has to come here to find out about WORBA

    WORBA needs to be more visible if it expects to recruit new members to grow.

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    everything starts with and idea....but nothing gets done until somebody picks up a shovel.....or some html code

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    I sent an email out to the folks that are in my address book from WORBA and the WORBA Treasurer responded and with :

    Thank you for starting this discussion. I am sure it can only be positive for WORBA. The website needs to be re-done this year. I believe some of the reluctance to act has been based on a lack of tech expertise and not wanting to do something that will prove to be equally inadequate in a few years.

    I appreciate the info this discussion has generated and the extra push to action.

    Harold
    I don't think there'll be much of a change in the way WORBA has operated (mostly behind the scenes) for the last ten years.....and I don't necessarily think there needs to be any change, because we have plenty of really great trail systems to ride and plenty of opportunities to volunteer to build trail, as long as, you live in or around a region that has a strong regional trail group. All of the actual shovel to dirt work, is done, at the chapter level and that's what I can't wait to get going on, come this spring.

    I wonder how many WORBA Members there are in Wisconsin....as well as how many IMBA members. But probably more important to that, would be what percentage of folks (that call themselves mountain bikers) volunteer to do trail-work.

    Every one of us owes a load of gratitude to our states trail advocates.....and just to set the record straight, I'm not one of these guys. I'm just a guy that volunteers every once in a while at trail work days. Every mountain biker should know the names of Wisconsin's Trail Advocates.

    Walt Hougas - Blue Mound
    Dave Mangan - S. Kettle
    Marty Weigel - Metro MTB
    Steve Meurett - Levis

    The problem with lists is I know I'll leave out some really deserving names and trails that I don't know. Please add the names of people that you know have helped make Wisconsin such a great place to ride. Thank these folks, by volunteering at a trail work day this year. If you're not near a local chapter of WORBA, start one!

    Let's make 2010 the best MTB year that we can for Wisconsin!

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    Member and call for bodies.

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    Speaking of trail work. Northern Kettle Moraine, Greenbush, needs one more good push to finish the final loop which is about a third of the way complete. It's rough cut but requires finish work. Keep an I out for a trail build day or two probably sometime in April. This will put the total single-track mileage at just shy of ten miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeneriam
    I'm new to the addiction and I was not aware of such a great advocacy group. Thanks for starting this thread, and for the info that has been shared. My family application went in the mail today.

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