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    SsingleSspeed Ssunday @ Kettle 9/19 @ 10am

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    Meet around ten and ride everything you wanna ride and then hang out, picnic, ride some more, frisbee, etc. I'm gonna ride the new pug fiddy G!

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    I will be there Saturday haha.. a day early I guess ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    I will be there Saturday haha.. a day early I guess ;-)

    I live in a small hole next to the connector trail - haha.. I'm there right now ; ^ )

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    nice!

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    I'll be there Hmmm That was a Jackson Five song

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    It should be good... I was hurting myself up the hills yesterday! haha

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    It was better than good...we learned the way of the gaucho!

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/3938950834/" title="SS Sunday 9-20-09 by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/3938950834_a3136f60c5_b.jpg" width="1024" height="577" alt="SS Sunday 9-20-09" /></a>

    We need a little mid-week rain for conditions to be perfect for the FCF.

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    Good times but I lost my bolo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    It was better than good...we learned the way of the gaucho!

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/gomez_lakeraven/3938950834/" title="SS Sunday 9-20-09 by ~gomez~, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/3938950834_a3136f60c5_b.jpg" width="1024" height="577" alt="SS Sunday 9-20-09" /></a>

    We need a little mid-week rain for conditions to be perfect for the FCF.

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    LQQK that 1x9 tried to nussle it's way in.
    Rain Moved in those sandy spots should soak it in!

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    What gearing were you guy running?

    I'm running 32/20t. Some of the hills were killer, but then I would spin out in other spots :-/

    But yeah, the sand comming back from Emma Carlin was KILLER for me. it was one of those hold your breath moments comming down the hill watching my buddy bail off the bike, praying to god (and thanking him as well for the disc brakes) that they worked! haha

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    32/17 on the Singular that is somewhere near the bottom of the pile. Can clear everything out there running this ratio. The Carlin climbs are tough but doable if you pick the right line.

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    Wow! And I thought 32/20 was hard to pedal. I only weigh 156lbs, so I don't have a lot of weight to dump into the pedals (also on platforms). But yeah, 26inch wide bars and bar ends and it takes a decent amount for me to not fail on hills like at Kettle haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botanicbiker
    32/17 on the Singular that is somewhere near the bottom of the pile. Can clear everything out there running this ratio. The Carlin climbs are tough but doable if you pick the right line.
    Do you ride up the two big ones with the anti-erosion rubbers on the trail? With a 32x17? 26er or 29er? Geez, I can't get up either of those with gears

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    I can actually hit those two hills (with MUCH work) haha.. Like off the seat, on the bar ends PULLING!!

    Saturday I actually spun my bars up a bit from pulling so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    What gearing were you guy running?

    I'm running 32/20t. Some of the hills were killer, but then I would spin out in other spots :-/

    But yeah, the sand comming back from Emma Carlin was KILLER for me. it was one of those hold your breath moments comming down the hill watching my buddy bail off the bike, praying to god (and thanking him as well for the disc brakes) that they worked! haha
    I was running 34/16 but going to bump it up to 34/17 I can clear everything on Blue/Rainydew and all of connector with 34/16 but 17 will be a little easier.

    I weigh 140 and my Vee-Brakes work just fine!

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    My buddies (the one I almost neutered) hyrdo rim brakes worked very wll too haha. Maybe too well ;-)

    Do you guys do any kind of training to make getting up those hills easier? I mean usually as long as I keep momentum I can get up most. But if I lose momentum I can't get it started :-/

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    I am such a puss, I have to walk the 3 big hills when I ride the 23 miles Greens/Connector trail. I ride the JM Green trail to the Connector, Connector to Emma Green, ride all of Emma Green then Connector back to the JM Green to the parking lot. I walk the two big Emma Green hills and the last JM Green/Blue hill (~1 mile from the parking lot). I've got some more fitness to go...takes me 3 hrs these days.

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    Meh... whatevs. I walk most steep hills anywhere I go. No shame in it, as long as you are pushing to get up them eventually it will happen :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter
    Do you ride up the two big ones with the anti-erosion rubbers on the trail? With a 32x17? 26er or 29er? Geez, I can't get up either of those with gears
    yes, as long as you pick the right line and can maintain rear traction. Its a 29er. I used to do them on a 26er running 34/17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    Meh... whatevs. I walk most steep hills anywhere I go. No shame in it, as long as you are pushing to get up them eventually it will happen :-)
    well, may be no shame in it, but you are missing out on the feeling you get when you make a tough climb (well, other than the burning lungs, legs, and exploding heart). I think climbing was one of the 1st mtb skills I really concentrated on when I started riding back in the early 90s. There were quite a few more of the tough climbs at the kettles back then and if you couldn't climb you did a lot of walking. I was pretty pleased with myself that I had made each of the climbs at the kettles back then, although I don't think I ever made them all in a single ride.

    I didn't make SS sunday at the Kettles, but I did honor it by riding my SS at my local trails (Pets in Kenosha) . If you're familiar with the trails there, Pets can be a blast on an SS (or any other bike). Lots of short climbs, some of them steep, but all doable if you know they're coming. Probably do a lot of walking though if your not familiar with the trails. I'd have to check to be sure, but I think I ended up with a 34-18 ss setup (26er) for Pets (the only place I've ridden my SS). I ran a while with 34-17, but just couldn't make a couple of the climbs. There's really not a lot of fast open trail there (like there is at the Kettles) so the easier gearing works well.
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    The two climbs on Emma with the anti-erosion rubbers, I'm going to have another look. My issue there is I can't keep up enough speed to clear the rubbers and not have the rear wheel hang up or spin out, I don't want to widen the trail by avoiding the rubbers. The last climb on JM Blue/Green is easy enough until I've riden 22 or 25 miles already. I'm always too toasted and have to drive 90 minutes home...So far I puss'ed out. Maybe next year I'll be fit enough.

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    trailville is zeber pedaler. ;-)

    Regardless of shame or not, not everyone can just get out there and ride up steep @ss hills. It does take some training.

    I usually tend to push my self over the top to get up the hill. I know if I don't make it this time, I will next time.

    The 32/20t gearing on the 9'er was fantastic at Zion (Beaulah).

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    You all just need to learn the way of the gaucho. Gauchos climb like monkies on crack! If you come to some work days at kettle next spring, you can build sweet sinuous singletrack that will render those crushed limestone (fall line) rubber flapped ski trails into retirement, so (till then) channel your inner gaucho.

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    I plan to train like crazy during the "off" season. I will go to that gym thing I signed up for a while ago. Probably try some winter riding too haha.

    Gomez, what are the rules for trail building? I assume there is something otherwise you could theoretically go hog wild and build everywhere inside JM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    I plan to train like crazy during the "off" season. I will go to that gym thing I signed up for a while ago. Probably try some winter riding too haha.

    Gomez, what are the rules for trail building? I assume there is something otherwise you could theoretically go hog wild and build everywhere inside JM.
    You just need to join the email list for the workdays. Send an email to Dave and he'll fill you in on the details. Dave's email is dmangan at wi dot rr dot com. Kettle is public land, so the only way to do any trail work is through the official work days. The bulk of the kettle work days happen from late March through early June on Saturday mornings, with special project work days announced via email sporadically throughout the season. The workdays are run by the Southern Kettle Chapter of WORBA, aka - The eSpecially CrAzy Irregular TrailBuildin’ Crew....and yes, some of us are gauchos.

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    Here's a photo pool of this years trail days - http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/pool/

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    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    If you come to some work days at kettle next spring, you can build sweet sinuous singletrack that will render those crushed limestone (fall line) rubber flapped ski trails into retirement, so (till then) channel your inner gaucho.
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    Well, you heard it folks. Your opportunity for testing yourself on those climbs on Emma is coming near an end. If you don't do it now you will be forever wondering "what if?".
    And congrats to those that keep to the middle of the trail and ride (or attempt to ride) over those water dams. Yeah it's the harder line, but you don't go mountain biking for easy.

    And just for the record, I'm not an uber climber. Sometimes I make the tough climbs, sometimes I don't. I like to reminisce about the big old climbs at the Kettles, but I'm not sure I really miss them all that much. They were really eroded and on parts of the connector they seemed to come one after another after another after another.

    So Gomez, is the plan to still keep that optional eroded climb on the connector open? It's kind of like a museum piece. A brief side trip into yesteryear at the kettles. Seems like there should be a plaque there.
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    How about that last climb on the blue. It is killer, but hell it is amazing to be able to climb it after you are already tired and ragged from everything else. I will get it one day... "somewhere over the rainbow..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailville
    So Gomez, is the plan to still keep that optional eroded climb on the connector open? It's kind of like a museum piece. A brief side trip into yesteryear at the kettles. Seems like there should be a plaque there.


    I'm opening a ride through - Argentinian Style (some say gaucho) - Meat (seared to perfection) and served on a razor sharp sword, restaurant on the top of that optional climb....Just Kidding....but a solar powered, energy bar machine would probably be a better choice. Are you guys hip to the new local energy bar company? K-Bar....made right in Elkhorn, WI. - https://www.k-bars.com/

    I think you should come to a work day and ask trailblazer dave that question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~gomez~
    I think you should come to a work day and ask trailblazer dave that question.
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    Yeah, I'm ashamed to say that I have yet to make a kettles trail work day. I did run into Dave on the trail a while back (I think last year) as he was doing some solo midweek trail work. Though I've been riding the Kettles for a long time, I don't actually ride there all that frequently. Probably just 5 or 6 times a year.

    I do have one complaint though. Skinnys scare me and you guys seem to be going skinny crazy on the new part of the connector. So thanks for making me feel like a *****. I do like those little ledges/drops and the logovers though.
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    The log jumps are nice!!

    The couple on the connector are bad ass too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailville
    I do have one complaint though. Skinnys scare me and you guys seem to be going skinny crazy on the new part of the connector. So thanks for making me feel like a *****. I do like those little ledges/drops and the logovers though.
    If you ever want to be a gaucho.....you're going to have to "think outside the box" more.....as in there are riders with less technical riding skill than.....and riders with more technical riding skill than - into the 'trail feature equation'. Every skinny that we've added has a ride around for folks that get their swerve on, without ever riding a skinny.

    Here's the formula in gnomish algebra Newbie^Trailville~Hans Rey x Technical Features (with options) = Phun {to the power of greyskull}

    Since we put those skinnies in, I've been practicing on a 4x4 in my driveway and can hit it 8 out of 10 times....but I fail regularly ('bout half way) on that 20' one along Bluff RD.

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    I hit the first skinny the first time and lost it. SO I re-rode it and almost made it.

    I love log obstacles. It means I get to hop the bike. Goin down some of the downhills at speed hitting a root and just launching the bike :-) mmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm

    I couldn't however even attempt the alone log skinny...

    I think that is the 20' near Bluff

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    The problem I have is I love the little drops and jumps, and that one ramped skinny you added looks like so much fun, but hitting a ramped skinny at speed sets off my your-too-old-to-be-breaking-your-neck-on-stuff-like-that-alarm. So I look at it and maybe approach it a couple of times seeing how it feels, then I ride away in shame with my head hung low because I know it's not a particularly difficult feature, but I just don't have the cahones (hey I think that's goucho speak) to do it.
    Actually I've only been out there once since you've added those, so I need to get out there and look at them again.
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    trailville... you have kids and a family don't you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 550
    trailville... you have kids and a family don't you...
    ahhh . . . I'm alergic
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    Heh. Well I'm just saying, a lot of times once you have other peoples in your life that count on you a lot those types of feelings : "but hitting a ramped skinny at speed sets off my your-too-old-to-be-breaking-your-neck-on-stuff-like-that-alarm."

    Hehe

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