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    Winter riding conditions 2011

    time to start posting whats rideable and where

    please stay off of slushy and muddy trails, when they freeze it makes a horrible ride

    Lowell dracut good with studs
    Pawtuckaway good with studs, fair without
    Yudicky ok with studs fair without
    Ft Rock good with studs
    Horse Hill good with studs, fair without
    HP ?
    Bear Brook ?
    Kingman Farm, Madbury/Durham NH: Excellent with or without studs.
    HP ?
    Bear Brook ?
    Marshabeesic Marshabesic....Half of my trails are shoveled out....no snow, no studs. Dave

    Fomba single track some good fire roads good

    little old Dorrs pond across from the back room in Manchester . The place is far to busy during day light hours but then you have it all to yourself at night to tear around as many laps as you want.

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    Wompatuck loop. Paved paths and roads were icy. The trails were 60% to 70% bare and the rest was crunchy snow that was totally rideable. No studs on any of our bikes. Lots of debris and trees down from the last big wind storm.

    Nickerson No snow at all.

    TOTsome snow but not really a factor. . at TOT the only sections with snow were the fire roads, who rides there?, and field of dreams (?).

    chime in if youve ridden anywhere
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    Went riding at TOT tonight.5-7:30 pm and some snow but not really a factor. However, went over to Sandwich, always do for the hills, and the snow was just too much. at TOT the o nly sections with snow were the fire roads, who rides there?, and field of dreams (?).

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    Rode Wompatuck last night. Did a 2 hour loop. Paved paths and roads were icy. The trails were 60% to 70% bare and the rest was crunchy snow that was totally rideable. No studs on any of our bikes. Lots of debris and trees down from the last big wind storm.

    Rode Nickerson on Sunday. No snow at all.
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    Just rode at Callahan tonight. Did a quick 6 mile loop. Trails were about 60% clear but where they were not it was mostly packed snow or ice. With studs I had no problems could probably get by with out them.

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    Rode Rayburn today...no studs and it was fine. 70% clear and the areas that were not were easily passable.

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    hitting nam tomorrow ill keep you posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by hani1
    Just rode at Callahan tonight. Did a quick 6 mile loop. Trails were about 60% clear but where they were not it was mostly packed snow or ice. With studs I had no problems could probably get by with out them.
    Framingham or marlboro side?

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    nams about 50% snow and 50% dirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by insanitylevel9
    nams about 50% snow and 50% dirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWhiskey13
    i dont think ive ever seen you in nam, im the loud moron riding either a sinister ridge with a fox 36 or a rasta gt 29r.
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    I grew up in Milford so I rode Nam growing up all the time, I have been living in Salem the last three years for school but Im back in the area a lot because my parents still live there, right now I will either be riding an 08 Parker i just picked up or a 92 Cannondale M2000...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffmuldoon
    Framingham or marlboro side?
    Both sides but a little worse on the Marlborough side

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    hit otis today, pretty much all rideable. some places you will have to hike though. i think were gonna get a fair bit of snow tonight though so who knows what it will be like in the coming days.

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    Anyone ridden Wompy in the last few days? I am hoping to hit it up tomorrow if we don't get much snow.

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    I rode Wed and Fri

    I rode wed and fri. Both days were good winter conditions riding. I did notice from Wed to fri that snow and textured ice had melted and refrozen leaving boiler plate in isolated spots. Especially on the roads that connect trails. Todays snow will create 'dust on crust' and boiler plate may lurk below the fluffy texture.
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    If any body lives near Nickerson can you give a shout in the morning with local conditions.

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    there's about a half inch of snow on the ground now and it's snowing lightly,should be fire I'm riding at nine
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    Rode ToT yesterday...Conditions about the same as last report. Trails 99% free of snow, ground firm everywhere, plenty of traction. The snowfall last night was minimal. The sun today melted most of it by this afternoon. Should be good to ride as long as it doesn't warm up too much.

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    anyone ride otis today? im guessing its pretty bad cuz there is like 2 inches of snow on the ground.

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    west milbury and rayburn have a little snow but not bad.. Going to check the bump in the am..
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    HP is 90% hard pack and 10% dirt, ice, rocks. Rideable in most spots. Fire roads are chewed up from horses and foot traffic.

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    Rode Nickerson Saturday afternoon and it was great not a speck of snow....
    Went back down there Sunday at about 10:30 and it was 4 inches of snowe on everything...just awful...made 2 runs down a chute at campsite 63 and that was it...too deep and slushy to contraol at high speeds...cut my losses and left before I went OTB or washed out bad. Hopefully this snow doesn't last.

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    rode tot saturday. danforth trails had some snow but other than that everything was solid.
    by wednesday you'll see me on xc ski's.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well Too Much Snow a Comin

    Yup, I am thinking this thread won't be too useful for the next week or so.

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    cape dodged another bullet

    rain and wind all night. 40 degrees today and rain so that should eat up the remainder of the snow we got last week. it is going to get cold so what ever is left or doesn't drain is going to be ice. time to stud up!
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    look's like I spoke too soon lower cape got 1-2 last night. not enough to stop riding, just enough to freshen things up a bit.

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    Heading up to Mad River tonight! 4 days of skiing on tap. Those are my winter riding solutions!
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    Went out snow shoeing at Tot today, looks like perfect conditions for a Pugsley.
    My guess is about 6 inches of snow on most of the trails.

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    How much snow at Otis right now? I'm thinking of heading down this weekend. Thanks!

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    If T or T got 6 then Otis should be in that ballpark. Probably have to go all the way to Brewster to find decent rideable conditions.

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    Rottendan: Please keep us up to date with the conditions at Nickerson....thinks looking good for this weekend? Rideable without studs? Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSumner13
    Rottendan: Please keep us up to date with the conditions at Nickerson....thinks looking good for this weekend? Rideable without studs? Thanks in advance
    mixed bag. took a quick ride this am and found every thing from clear trail to snow covered ice. I'd say the deepest amount of snow was around 3'' which was fine to ride through. a bit crusty but ridable. the trails around the ponds were packed out a bit and the stuff out by ruth pond leading to freemans way was untracked, well except for me. I rode w/o studs and it was fine. some spots would have been nice to have them though but, they are not necessary. if you are looking for a fast flowy ride you will not find that here but, if you are looking to get out and chug around on the bike the trails are fine

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    Rode nickerson this morning at nine,did an 11 mile loop a lot of the usual stuff.Even did lower flax pond which was in great shape mostly bare, only averaged around 7 miles an hour but it was a good ride.
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    My wife and I along with another couple show shoes Wompatuck Sunday...the trails are very covered...some were packed down enough to ride but slick...saw 2 people on bikes but both were riding on the rode. One looked as though he tried the woods and bailed as his bike was totally covered in snow...it will be a while before Wompy is really ready to ride with any speed or control...

    So is Nickerson cleared now...last time I was there last weekend on sunday it was 4 inches of slush and snow...would love to make some plans to hit it this weekend if some of the snow id gone.

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    Rode Duxbury Woods Sunday 8-12 inches of snow but trails are compacted enough to ride. No studs necessary yesterday. Out for 2 1/2 hours.

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    I'm hoping the weather stays warm enough this week to get only rain on the cape. The wife is going away for a few weeks of training with work. That leaves me with three-four weekends that I will be able to take the drive down there.

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    tuesday and wednesday are going to be good days to get rid of alot of the snow.. temps in low 40's and even some rain on tuesday should do a good number on all the snow.

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    sounds good...hopefully it will be cleared for the weekend...I will have to start planning on wednesday then...keep us posted guys...it is a long ride to find a ton of snow and unridable conditions...learned that the hard way a week ago....

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    What's Otis got for snow? Thanks!
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    Bradley palmer and willow are wicked right now. Lot's of packed trails.
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    hows HP?

    anyone been out there lately? thinking about this weekend early am if its cold enough

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    lowell/ dracut

    is another possibility, anyone been lately? packed down at all?

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    I've been riding ashland and it's been ok.
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    I tried riding at Massasoit on Friday, it was terrible. 80-90% snow covered and it was mostly too soft to ride on, even with studded tires aired down to 25 psi. Could be better now that it's colder and the snow will have re-froze.

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    Rode at Callahan last night. There is still about a good foot of snow over everything.

    There is a small 2.5 - 3 mile loop of packed down trails that is fine with studs. Nothing great but for a night time spin after work it was good. GPS link below.

    I would not bother on the warmer days that are coming up you will likely be in slush. Cold nights and mornings may be ok.

    For long weekend rides I would head to the cape those trails are in much better. This won't be back to normal till late March or April.

    http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=984795

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    rode Otis yesterday, just about perfect conditions. no mud , no snow 45-50 degrees

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    I tried to ride Willowdale today, March 5th. I encountered snow - and lots of it. I considered it un-rideable. I couldn't go more than 10 yards without punching through into 6" of snow. You may get by with wide, studded tires pumped to about 15 psi.

    I've included some pictures.

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    To soft and warm to ride snow that deep. Its gonna melt all week,but needs a long while to dry out. Let it dry and prevent trail damage, most placs are legally closed till April 15'th.
    At least wait till then to hit those trails and let the excess water leach out.
    In the meantime you can take a road trip to Otis or TOT.
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    Attempted to ride the Freetown Forest today I got about 1 mile into a ride from the ranger station on Slab Bridge, and decided to turn back. Your either riding on 1" of mud or 1" of ice and navigating around puddles.

    I'll try the South end of the forest on the Dartmouth/Fall River line this week. I know there is a ton of grass covered walking trails so they may be a little more managable.

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    Any new reports? The yards and what you can see of forests from the roads is looking pretty clear. Might be taking my dogs for a walk in Callahan tomorrow so that will give me a decent idea about how it looks.

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    I'm taking a ride through nam tomorrow to check it out...

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    I would consider most of Nam as Rideable

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    I just rode the marlborough side of calahan and it was pretty terrible. huge puddles. lots of mud and lots of icey snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWhiskey13
    I would consider most of Nam as Rideable
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    Seems that Foxboro would be good for biking now. Has anyone been in there?

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    Massasoit?

    Has anyone ridden Massasoit in the past couple days? I would think it would be OK, but wanted to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djb2
    Has anyone ridden Massasoit in the past couple days? I would think it would be OK, but wanted to check.
    I drove through on Thursday to check things out and saw a few guys finishing up. They said the trails were fine.

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    I rode Pine Hills in Plymouth today, Sunday March 20. It was fantastic. Absolutely no snow and perfectly dry. A fair amount of deadfall though.

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    I've been walking my dog in the Fells lately and unfortunately have been seeing tracks and bikes. I wish they would wait another three weeks and keep the heat off the rest of us.

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    Harold Parker is good to go. Damp and not too muddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherpa2000
    Harold Parker is good to go. Damp and not too muddy.
    Let HP dry out. Riding in muddy conditions only hastens erosion.
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    Let me rephrase it. The single track is not muddy. HP is literally in my back yard, if i thought it wouldsrew up the trails, a few which i've built BTW, Then i'd say, stay away. Its fine, Ride your bikes.

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    I rode Otis yesterday and the conditions were dry as can be. I'm thinking of making the trip again on Wednesday, but not sure if they got any snow today or if it was just rain.

    For those who live out that way, please let me know if it's snow covered.

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    "please stay of the mud trails" ?
    We have mountain bikes man. Lol..... LOVE the mud...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrob1775
    I rode Otis yesterday and the conditions were dry as can be. I'm thinking of making the trip again on Wednesday, but not sure if they got any snow today or if it was just rain.

    For those who live out that way, please let me know if it's snow covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom
    "please stay of the mud trails" ?
    We have mountain bikes man. Lol..... LOVE the mud...
    well, we dont love fixing the trails once you've rutted them all up. Come to a few trail days and you might change your perspective

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    Actually I have and most of the damage mt bikes do is washed away with rain. I've been on trail repair for motocross bikes.

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    Ideally, wait till it's not muddy (Duh) but what is way worse than going through the mud is going around the mud! Ideally go right into it if you must. Don't go around and make the trial all wide and ruin the side of the trail and turn single track into double track. Everyone is smart here...Lets ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom
    Actually I have and most of the damage mt bikes do is washed away with rain. I've been on trail repair for motocross bikes.

    Do not assume you are above everyone
    I dont assume Im above everyone. You seem to though. You assume that, you being a jackass and tearing up the trails is ok , and the rest of us are somehow holier than thou when you get called on it.
    here in New England its frowned upon to ride in muddy conditions, well known fact, documented and noted on most early season rides.
    motocross trails are not mtn bike / hiking trails , you are right about the damage being washed away with the rain, along with half the soil . when you rut up the trail the natural drainage is ruined and the trail starts to erode.
    Before you start accusing you should do a little research on trail design and building and talk to any trail steward in new england and see if they think its ok to ride on muddy trails

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    Ok Mr. Mountain bike. BTW- I don't ride on any specifically designated "Mt Bike" trails like a pretty boy, so no worries, I wont wreck your gorgeous, groomed trail my friend. You can keep your smooth single track, and I will continue to make my way through the mud. Good day and have fun out there.
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    pauldotcom, your a tool. get a clue and please give your bike to
    someone who isn't a retard like yourself. Have a good day and GFY.

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    Stop talking behind a computer. You are a real stud. Next time, come meet with me, then talk. We are both in MA, it can be arranged.
    I don't mind folks arguing my position but please do not act like a dirt-bag and resort to name calling / profanity.
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    Couldn't find the popcorn smiley.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sherpa2000
    Let me rephrase it. The single track is not muddy. HP is literally in my back yard, if i thought it wouldsrew up the trails, a few which i've built BTW, Then i'd say, stay away. Its fine, Ride your bikes.
    Thanks! Looks like I may hit up HP early Sat AM .

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    Look, bottom line and common sense says riding in muddy conditions does more harm than any good. That was why I responded in the first place. My concern was also for early season to really give the ground time to dry out and prevent rutting that would last the season and alter drainage.
    I think we all understand the basics and are also all jonesing to get out on our bikes, just use common sense and ride wheenand when appropriate. Everyone calm down and enjoy the coming season.
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    looks like we got some good ole mass holes here!

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    I have to agree with you when it comes to single track stuff. I wouldn't want to tear it up either. The stuff I ride is different. It's more "off-road" if you will shared by ATV's, Dirt Bikes, etc... The trails I mostly hit are destroyed which is why I like them.
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    Thread officially derailed by PC trail etiquette debate..YAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel J
    Thread officially derailed by PC trail etiquette debate..YAY.
    This discussion is driven by self preservation. Most of us in the eastern half of the state are limited to riding state managed land. If we go out and cause erosion, you get people like Friends of the Fells making your hobby illegal. That "pretty boy" image is the only thing standing between us and having to drive 4 hours to go riding. If you're riding moto trails that already resemble washed out river beds, then have at it. Just stay off of the single track that was built specifically to prevent erosion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom
    DORO
    Stop talking behind a computer. You are a real stud. Next time, come meet with me, then talk. We are both in MA, it can be arranged.
    I don't mind folks arguing my position but please do not act like a dirt-bag and resort to name calling / profanity.
    This is the issue with the forum world. Everyone thinks they can start to talk $hit, say what they will and ride what ever they want and when they want. No accountability. People like you ruin it for likes of true riders! Then peeps start back stepping in follow up threads like yourself because they realize there were writing like a moron.

    Maybe I'm writing like a moron right now. But at this point I don't really give a f*ck and haven't done the backstep since the 80's!

    How this brosuf>>>>>My name is Drew.
    PM sent! Swing over dude. Dont forget to bring your "custom" trek 4300 homey!

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    DORO-
    Enough talk. I won't get sucked in.
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    So anyway, anyone out there ride Leominster? How's it looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A1Zero
    So anyway, anyone out there ride Leominster? How's it looking?

    Snow is still on the trails. I haven't road or know if it's rideable but this was info I got from NEMBA site.

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