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    This thread is to post the lastest in MTB info/news concerning the SE Mass bioreserve/ Freetown SF.

    The Bioreserve is a joint effort between DCR, Fish and Game, Fall River, the Trustees of Reservations, the Dartmouth Natural Resources Trust, and some other municipal and conservation land. It is over 13,500 acres and includes all of Freetown State Forest.

    The bioreserve is managed to protect biodiversity, provide recreation, protect the Fall River water supply and manage forestry assets. It is open to hunting, biking, motorcycles (in the northern part of Freetown SF), hiking, fishing, etc.

    The bioreserve has over 50 miles of dirt roads and trails. Freetown SF has long been in a popular riding spot but has been in a slow decline for the last 10 years or so. A major insect infestation, loss of land and trails due to a new highway ramp, increased motorcycle use, budget cuts, and general neglect have all contributed.

    The good news is that with the creation of the bioreserve, the Watuppa reservation has been opened to the public. A federal grant was secured to create a unified map. Also, local riders have finally had enough and have begun working with NEMBA to improve the trails. So far about 15 miles of trails have been cleared of blowdowns. The trail corridors have been pruned back and we are in the process of installing intersection markers.

    In the interest of making this whole project manageable I'm dividing the bioreserve into 3 riding areas. The ledge trails, the ranger station trails, and the Copicut trails.

    So far all work has been concentrated on the Copicut trails. These trails are not open to motorcycles and as such, were in the most danger of being completely overgrown.
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    The biggest development so far concerning the Bioreserve is definitely the map. The map is 16'x24" and shows almost every trail in the bioreserve. Most intersections are marked, with codes corresponding to nearby natural features.

    Unfortunately the map is not available online. I have been given permission to post my own modified copy here and also on the nemba places to ride page (when I get around to it). So far I only have the Copicut Trails map ready. This is only a portion of the official map. I have marked the trails that are ready to ride by circling them with pink.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8275560462/" title="Copicut Trails temp by Ice Cream Jay, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8275560462_0a8446bf2c_b.jpg" width="798" height="1024" alt="Copicut Trails temp"></a>
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    Also, not all the intersection markers are up yet. So far the KP, MB and CH signs are up. I should have the HS signs installed by the new year. BR, QG, and DD should be up in January.

    If you're wondering,

    KP - King Philip
    MB - Miller Brook
    CH - Copicut Hill
    HS - Hex Spring
    BR - Bell Rock
    QG - Queens Gutter
    MP - Mowry Path
    DD - Dr. Durfee
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    AND ... if you haven't ridden the Copicut trails I highly recommend them. These trails are quiet, remote and technical. The terrain is gently rolling, not many steep ups and downs like the ledge. I gps'd a 16 mile loop and did just over 1000 ft vertical climbing/descending. The trails are a nice mix of tech rocks and roots and some smoother old moto trails. Less rocky than the ranger station, not as sandy as the ledge.

    If the ranger station and ledge turned you off, please don't let that experience stop you from riding these trails. There is nothing that I would call amazing, just long singletrack trails through some beautiful and quiet woods. The trails are also quite dry by Freetown standards. Come check em out and make your own opinion. Personally I think these are great trails and a good complement to our other local spots.
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    Awesome work on this, now I want to check it out...

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    Great, keep in mind that work is ongoing as well. The main trails are mostly clear, and I've leaf blown some of the trails, but some of the side trails still need a bit of pruning and raking/blowing. And the more tires we get rolling over these trails will help out too.

    Hopefully by spring I'll have everything in this part of the forest cleared and leafblown.
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    Awesome job Jay!!

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    Sounds like a lot of positive momentum is going down here. I'd be up for making the trip down there, is there any way we can get an address for one of the parking lots? I assume the Copicut trails are best accessed from the Copicut Lot?

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    Nice work Jay!

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    Sounds great, thanks for putting the time in working on both the trails and the map! I've never ridden there but will have to check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnar602 View Post
    Sounds like a lot of positive momentum is going down here. I'd be up for making the trip down there, is there any way we can get an address for one of the parking lots? I assume the Copicut trails are best accessed from the Copicut Lot?
    Good point, forgot about parking.

    I fiddled around with google earth and I found addresses that take you close to the parking areas. I'm not sure if these would translate to other GPS' as they aren't real addresses as far as I know, they just put the google earth arrow in the right place.

    The best parking from the east (New Bedford, Cape Cod) is the Miller's Brook Lot. It's on Copicut Road in Fall River. This lot only holds 2-3 cars, but you could park on the side of the road nearby.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=500+C...tts+02747&z=16

    From the West (Fall River, Providence) the easiest parking is the Copicut Woods Lot located on Indian Town Road in Fall River. This lot holds probably 10-12 cars and you could also some spots where you could park on the side of the road nearby. I also included a link to the official Copicut Woods site.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1750+...tts+02790&z=16

    Copicut Woods | Bioreserve | Fall River, MA | The Trustees of Reservations


    There are two options for those of you coming from the north (rt 24). I think the best option currently is either to park at the triangle (the corner of Copicut road and Bell Rock Road/High St.) and ride up Copicut road to the hunters lot, or to keep going up Copicut road towards the Hunters lot and just park at the end of the pavement. If you have 4 wheel drive and are feeling adventurous you could continue up to the Hunters Lot. Here's a link to the end of the pavement. The Hunters lot holds a lot of cars, but is inaccessible to non 4x4's. I don't see a problem parking along Copicut road on this stretch. It sees very little traffic and everybody used to just park on the side of the road at the triangle anyways. Now that there are houses at the triangle I don't see it as a great parking area anymore.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=85+Co...tts+02702&z=15

    The other spot from the north is to drive down Bell Rock Road to the Canfield lot. This lot only holds 2-3 cars, but once again, side of the road parking shouldn't be a problem, the hunters all do it. Drive all the way down Bell Rock Rd, which is now paved. Look for a small parking area on the right with some boulders shortly after the pavement ends. The dirt road here is in good shape and can be used by any vehicle. It gets pretty rough south of here though.

    The trails around this parking area haven't really be worked on yet, so I don't recommend this parking for now. I think in a year or two this will be an excellant place to park when coming from the north.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=10+Be...tts+02790&z=17

    One thing I wouldn't do is try to drive the other roads in the bioreserve, as many of them are in very, very rough shape. For instance there is a second hunters lot in the middle of copicut road. You need a 4x4 with good clearance and the guts to drive through massive, deep puddles to get to that lot. The section of Bell Rock between the Canfield lot and the Watuppa pond is very rough as well as almost all the roads in the Watuppa Res. The roads on the map with the black and white dashed markings are the roughest.
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    Thanks for the info! As long as conditions allow for it I'll try to get a couple of guys who are up for exploring a new area to head down there. The only other south shore locations I've been to are Wompatuck, Boarderland, and Foxboro. Judging from the terrain I've always known there was tons of potential anywhere a nice tract of undeveloped land exists.

    Thanks for all the hard work. If/when you post up trail days I'm always happy to help expand what we have to ride.

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    Good point, forgot about parking.

    I fiddled around with google earth and I found addresses that take you close to the parking areas. I'm not sure if these would translate to other GPS' as they aren't real addresses as far as I know, they just put the google earth arrow in the right place.

    The best parking from the east (New Bedford, Cape Cod) is the Miller's Brook Lot. It's on Copicut Road in Fall River. This lot only holds 2-3 cars, but you could park on the side of the road nearby.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=500+C...tts+02747&z=16

    From the West (Fall River, Providence) the easiest parking is the Copicut Woods Lot located on Indian Town Road in Fall River. This lot holds probably 10-12 cars and you could also some spots where you could park on the side of the road nearby. I also included a link to the official Copicut Woods site.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=1750+...tts+02790&z=16

    Copicut Woods | Bioreserve | Fall River, MA | The Trustees of Reservations


    There are two options for those of you coming from the north (rt 24). I think the best option currently is either to park at the triangle (the corner of Copicut road and Bell Rock Road/High St.) and ride up Copicut road to the hunters lot, or to keep going up Copicut road towards the Hunters lot and just park at the end of the pavement. If you have 4 wheel drive and are feeling adventurous you could continue up to the Hunters Lot. Here's a link to the end of the pavement. The Hunters lot holds a lot of cars, but is inaccessible to non 4x4's. I don't see a problem parking along Copicut road on this stretch. It sees very little traffic and everybody used to just park on the side of the road at the triangle anyways. Now that there are houses at the triangle I don't see it as a great parking area anymore.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=85+Co...tts+02702&z=15

    The other spot from the north is to drive down Bell Rock Road to the Canfield lot. This lot only holds 2-3 cars, but once again, side of the road parking shouldn't be a problem, the hunters all do it. Drive all the way down Bell Rock Rd, which is now paved. Look for a small parking area on the right with some boulders shortly after the pavement ends. The dirt road here is in good shape and can be used by any vehicle. It gets pretty rough south of here though.

    The trails around this parking area haven't really be worked on yet, so I don't recommend this parking for now. I think in a year or two this will be an excellant place to park when coming from the north.

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=10+Be...tts+02790&z=17

    One thing I wouldn't do is try to drive the other roads in the bioreserve, as many of them are in very, very rough shape. For instance there is a second hunters lot in the middle of copicut road. You need a 4x4 with good clearance and the guts to drive through massive, deep puddles to get to that lot. The section of Bell Rock between the Canfield lot and the Watuppa pond is very rough as well as almost all the roads in the Watuppa Res. The roads on the map with the black and white dashed markings are the roughest.

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    Cool, just remember its a work in progress. There is a lot of technical singletrack, but its almost throwback stuff, old moto trails, no bridges or rock work of any kind, no skinnies and not many drops, just old school trails. Just sayin, cause I read the Charlemont thread....
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecreamjay View Post
    Cool, just remember its a work in progress. There is a lot of technical singletrack, but its almost throwback stuff, old moto trails, no bridges or rock work of any kind, no skinnies and not many drops, just old school trails. Just sayin, cause I read the Charlemont thread....
    That thread got way out of hand, a few people don't represent the view of the majority of riders. I've never been to those trails but even Lynn Woods didn't start has 10 miles of gnarly single track, at the end of the day every trail system is a work in progress. They're always changing, some for the good, some for worse.

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    Ok, so I rode these trails (Copicut Section) for the first time today. I've ridden nearly every trail system in New England and can truly say this is one of the best places is the area and has the potential to be among the best trail systems in the region. What you'll find here is classic NE singletrack that is such a refreshing change from the engineered, twisty, trail mazes that have become so common. Long 2+ mile stretches of singletrack, rock gardens with no obvious line, deep woods feel, fast and flowy but you constantly have to pay attention. The trails have elements of Arcadia, Wendell and Bear Brook. We rode almost every trail within the pink circle and ended up doing 20 miles. The Copicut Hill Trail section, CH3, CH4 and CH5 is going to be incredible once is ridden in. My helmet goes off to you, Jay and all the work you and your team have been putting into these trails! Please post up when you'll be doing trail work because my wife and I would love to help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSumner13 View Post
    Ok, so I rode these trails (Copicut Section) for the first time today. I've ridden nearly every trail system in New England and can truly say this is one of the best places is the area and has the potential to be among the best trail systems in the region. What you'll find here is classic NE singletrack that is such a refreshing change from the engineered, twisty, trail mazes that have become so common. Long 2+ mile stretches of singletrack, rock gardens with no obvious line, deep woods feel, fast and flowy but you constantly have to pay attention. The trails have elements of Arcadia, Wendell and Bear Brook. We rode almost every trail within the pink circle and ended up doing 20 miles. The Copicut Hill Trail section, CH3, CH4 and CH5 is going to be incredible once is ridden in. My helmet goes off to you, Jay and all the work you and your team have been putting into these trails! Please post up when you'll be doing trail work because my wife and I would love to help!
    Nice trail report! Sounds like a refreshing change from the norm, which goes a long way in these parts! I'm looking to come down in January if the snow allows for it. Do you get the impression that this area is close enough to the water that snow will be less of a factor here? I know Otis for example is usually snow free when HP, Vietnam, etc... are covered in many inches of white stuff.

    If you plan on going again and don't mind a few North Shore riders coming along let me know. 20 miles of what's in these pictures sounds really nice!

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    JSumner,

    I'm glad you had fun. Thanks for the kind words and good pics. I'll definitely be doing some more maintenance days as well as hopefully doing some group rides. I'd like to do one of each per month. I'll definitely post up here. If you don't mind me asking, where'd ya park?

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    We usually get a bit more snow than Otis (except Nor'easters) but less snow than anything north of 495.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecreamjay View Post
    JSumner,

    I'm glad you had fun. Thanks for the kind words and good pics. I'll definitely be doing some more maintenance days as well as hopefully doing some group rides. I'd like to do one of each per month. I'll definitely post up here. If you don't mind me asking, where'd ya park?

    Gnar,

    We usually get a bit more snow than Otis (except Nor'easters) but less snow than anything north of 495.
    Awesome! We parked at the Millers Brook Lot but will likely park at the Copicut Woods lot next time.

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    Cool, Millers Brook is good if you're looking to add on extra mileage, the official "Copicut woods" area is a good warmup, but too flat and wide for most advanced riders. The Copicut Woods parking area (if this confusing look at the map) is closer to the singletrack as well as being a real parking lot with a map kiosk.

    The trails in the Watuppa Reservation are all mostly clear too, but they are almost all wide fire roads. The guy in charge there is the guy in charge of the signs, so I've been working closely with him. My ultimate dream is to be able to build trails through the Watuppa res north of the Copicut woods lot and wrap them around Copicut hill, tying them into the existing singletrack. Download a USGS topo and look at the contours in this part of the woods, the terrain looks to be awesome for sustainable, contour surfing trails. And because this land has been closed to the public for about a hundred years there are no existing trails to work around or have to fix.

    So far the policy is no new trails, but I plan on taking it slow and trying to convince the land manager to let us do our thing. One good thing is that it is city land, no dealing with DCR or the state. I even think this area has the topography and space to consider a whole new machine built network. That's a serious long shot, but why not? Fall River is dying to reinvent itself.

    Anyway, one thing at a time. If these trails take off it will give me more leverage. I think I'm gonna request Nemba and Imba comp him their magazines. Let him read about all the other awesome projects nemba does around here. He has been in Swansea and knows I was involved, I think he's still a bit scared I'm gonna start building bridges and teeters. For the record I didn't build any man made structures in Swansea, I was just the first one that started building there and connected some loops and made it rideable, it wasn't till Bikeworks actually got permission from the town to build that all kinds of stuff started popping up.
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    Road some of the Copicut trails today for an hour. LOVED THEM! parked at the Copicut Woods lot. rode horseshoe then turned left onto CH7. Note there is a tree down on horseshoe that you need to dismount and climb over. followed CH7 up past CH3 then the trail got pretty wet. i think there was a line around / past the water but I decided to stay dry and turn around. On the way back cut over to CH9 and rode that. Great mix of all types of terrain with the exception of any really steep climbs. I came from Fairhaven, took the Reed Rd exit and should have parked at Millers Brook lot but kept going then turn left onto Indian Town Rd. Glad I have a 4x4 truck : )

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    New trails to try out?

    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatsbullshark View Post
    Road some of the Copicut trails today for an hour. LOVED THEM! parked at the Copicut Woods lot. rode horseshoe then turned left onto CH7. Note there is a tree down on horseshoe that you need to dismount and climb over. followed CH7 up past CH3 then the trail got pretty wet. i think there was a line around / past the water but I decided to stay dry and turn around. On the way back cut over to CH9 and rode that. Great mix of all types of terrain with the exception of any really steep climbs. I came from Fairhaven, took the Reed Rd exit and should have parked at Millers Brook lot but kept going then turn left onto Indian Town Rd. Glad I have a 4x4 truck : )
    We've been working like mad to keep the blowdowns at bay, but there are still hundreds of dead oaks standing. I'm pretty sure this last storm will take at least a few out. Expect some blowdowns, but we'll be cutting them pretty regularly.

    The wet spot between CH 5 and CH6 is on my list. There really isn't any room to reroute so I plan on just fixing up the line around it.

    I warned you about driving on the rough roads I'm glad you had a truck.

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    Nice!
    Not really new, just refurbished.
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    Lead a group of 19 out there today...mostly NBX, Union velo and Team Bums riders. Many will be back!!

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    Here is a video I recorded from John Sumners ride. The place was in great shape and we had a blast!

    John and Haley's Copicut Ride 12-29-2012 - YouTube

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    i think it will be extremely hard to keep up with all the falling dead in this forest......i have been out there over a dozen times with good result for a short time until more dead had fallen, and why does it always have to fall across the trail.........the other hard part is the amount of time it takes........i hope you have a team...there's always people that say they wana, wana, wana help.....but when it comes down to go there never there.........

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    not to sound negative with that previous entry.......its great that your out there, and i hope you get the help needed to clear the trails......if you can let me know when you can or will be out there, and i will try to lend a hand.......i have a full size family that makes times when i want to get out tough....but i do get a random day here and there.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdurand View Post
    not to sound negative with that previous entry.......its great that your out there, and i hope you get the help needed to clear the trails......if you can let me know when you can or will be out there, and i will try to lend a hand.......i have a full size family that makes times when i want to get out tough....but i do get a random day here and there.........
    No problem, you're right about the number of dead trees and keeping up with them. Dougiestares and I had been trying unsuccessfully to keep these trails clear for a couple of years. It wasn't until we teamed up and started getting a few other people out there that we caught up enough to actually do a nice long ride without getting off the bike every tenth of a mile. I gotta credit Stuntman Mike too, he's done a lot.

    I think just getting a team out there has been huge. While working we bumped into another guy who had been plugging away, but he had just gotten discouraged. Now that we've made a dent he's carrying his hand saw again. We also saw evidence of someone else who chainsawed a bunch of stuff. Still don't know who did that, but it seems like everyone who rides here is pitching in a little bit. There are still a lot of dead trees standing, but there are only so many, eventually they will all fall.

    There will be more trailwork days. I really want to keep the ball rolling, keep these trails clear, and get to a couple of other nearby trails that really need it.

    Hopefully the snow melts off, but I'm not optimistic. I have a feeling its gonna be fatbike season for a while.
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    cool....i will keep an eye on the forum so i can get on one of those trail work days...........once i see whats going on and what wants to be achieved, i am a total animal when i comes to trail work, haha

    say do you know the fella out there that leaves those lizard tags on some of the trails....you might have seen one hanging from a branch, about eye level......???

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    I'm the one that usually maintains some trails on the motorcycle side. I used to maintain one that is within the pink area but when I went there last year it seemed someone claimed it so I let them have at it. I haven't been back to chain saw as it was hunting season and the hunters don't like a saw running while they are stalking prey. And I can't do Sundays. I usually start trimming in March and yes, there is alot of deadfall but if you love to ride there, it's never been a problem. I mark the areas on my gps and head back. Have to say when I headed back the last time, I only cut two trees as the rest were cleared. Kudos!

    The only problem I see going forward is when spring comes around and it's dirt bike season, that map doesn't really tell you clearly where motos are allowed. In the past there has been some really chewed up spots (Edmunds House and Grinnell) but it was done by trucks and quads than mx. Go figure. I sometimes ride with mx on the other side as I have friends that ride, but really...how is that going to be enforced?


    BTW..in honor of Dougiestares, the trail that loops between Indian Town (I think) Rd and the Power lines is named the Dougie Trail. Since it had no name, we had to call it something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    I'm the one that usually maintains some trails on the motorcycle side.
    Awesome, thanks, I really just started working in earnest last year. It wasn't until this fall that things really started moving.

    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    The only problem I see going forward is when spring comes around and it's dirt bike season, that map doesn't really tell you clearly where motos are allowed. In the past there has been some really chewed up spots (Edmunds House and Grinnell) but it was done by trucks and quads than mx. Go figure. I sometimes ride with mx on the other side as I have friends that ride, but really...how is that going to be enforced?
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    Funny, I talked to Mike at the Watuppa res about this today. He really wants to crack down on illegal motorized use. Mostly he is pissed about the 4x4 and quads. He's working with the gas and elec companies to gate off their access roads.

    But he mentioned that its easier to get grants for moto trails than hiking/biking. On account of there are only 3-4 parks in MA that can apply for those funds as opposed to 80 parks fighting for the hiking trail money. Less competition for federal recreational trail money and the state has a certain percentage they have to spend on motorized trails.

    As far as the moto's, I think the plan might be to mark the moto trail better and put signs in place to keep the motos in the northern part of the bioreserve, basically the State Forest. There are 6 choke points we've found to put up signs that would keep the moto's out of the southern part of the forest. Obviously some people will ride it anyway, but I think that most or at least many will respect the signs. But like said, a few motos are not going to ruin the trails. He also wants the state to help fix some of the rutting in the ledge area. I suggested rock armoring for some of the really deep ruts and he seemed to like that idea. Then plant or reclaim the stuff on the sides to narrow the trails. The idea is to fix up the moto trail so that the motos will want to ride it and not the "illegal" stuff. Will it work? I think so, for the most part, if it gets done.

    Enforcement is up the environmental police. They do patrol it, but I admit its spotty. I think fixing up and marking the moto loop, as well as signs marking the "boundaries" is the best bet. There's plenty of room for bikes and motos out there.

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    BTW..in honor of Dougiestares, the trail that loops between Indian Town (I think) Rd and the Power lines is named the Dougie Trail. Since it had no name, we had to call it something...
    Nice, the Dougie Trail. I second (or third or whatever) that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecreamjay View Post
    He also wants the state to help fix some of the rutting in the ledge area. I suggested rock armoring for some of the really deep ruts and he seemed to like that idea. Then plant or reclaim the stuff on the sides to narrow the trails. The idea is to fix up the moto trail so that the motos will want to ride it and not the "illegal" stuff. Will it work? I think so, for the most part, if it gets done.

    Enforcement is up the environmental police. They do patrol it, but I admit its spotty. I think fixing up and marking the moto loop, as well as signs marking the "boundaries" is the best bet. There's plenty of room for bikes and motos out there.


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    i think as long as you have riders that are going to go out after a soaking rain......the trail maintenance would be destroyed as fast as it was made.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdurand View Post
    i think as long as you have riders that are going to go out after a soaking rain......the trail maintenance would be destroyed as fast as it was made.....
    For sure, that's one of the biggest issues with the moto's, they don't respect the "don't ride wet trails rule", I don't think they even think about it. Thats why I haven't put any effort into any of the trails that are commonly ridden by moto's.

    Anyway the HS signs are up and I'm starting on BR. Doug and I pruned some of the trails behind Bell Rock and around the Esker Trail too.
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    i just got a map today.......really nice..........if i think of it i will post a map that i had made up from the old freetown forest map.............hope i can find it

    where is Esker T. on the map....??

    i might be able to get out there on tuesday...are there any trails in mind that would need pruning??

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    It doesn't matter when they ride as there are many areas in the forest that either have an underground spring or a high water table, where the dirt until someone gets a little stuck and throttttllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeee eeee until they are unstuck. You are right about posting signs and having most people turn around, that has been one of the complaints my mx friends have had, they didn't know what was off limits.

    I have photos of Edmunds House Trail that are dug out due to motorized vehicles (notice the word VEHICLE) nailing it to get out. This was always a little damp 4-5 years ago, and late this summer it was awful. I haven't been down there as it is a highly hunted area, and with the closing of deer season, I will probably go and will take some pics. This is one area that would highly benefit from narrowing it down using either blueberry bushes (all over the place there) or saplings. Not high on the list but would be a good project.

    I have experience writing grants (not my regular job but it's my way of giving back), mostly for 501c3 nonprofits, if the Wattupa res needs some help let me know, I do it for free for the things I love (animals and bikes). I also maintained trails out west for a long time, so I still have some grant connections and resources should you need it.

    BTW Chris, I think the Esker Trail is across from the Mill Pond off of Bell Rock. I had initially thought they 'closed' these trails as they piled dirt up in front of them when they paved. I hope it's gone.

    An additional BTW...two actually -1) WHAT were all the wooden stacks of rather LARGE looking railroad ties by the power station about a month ago (I got the flu haven't been back yet) and 2) What's going on with the big dig south of the mx parking lot on Bell Rock Road? I think that's south anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    BTW Chris, I think the Esker Trail is across from the Mill Pond off of Bell Rock. I had initially thought they 'closed' these trails as they piled dirt up in front of them when they paved. I hope it's gone.

    An additional BTW...two actually -1) WHAT were all the wooden stacks of rather LARGE looking railroad ties by the power station about a month ago (I got the flu haven't been back yet) and 2) What's going on with the big dig south of the mx parking lot on Bell Rock Road? I think that's south anyway...
    Mill Pond, i know that.......but is the Esker Trail "br2" or "br1"........br2 to me and the wednesday night freetown riders is known as the Hiking Trail,......from Bell Rock it has a "only if you know its there kinda entrance".....and br1 had the old ratty sign hung across the entrance...if i remember right it was more a double track.......at the point from bell rock where they meet @ br3...has anyone seen the little lizardman tag ?? is that Esker ??

    Again if there are any trails in mind for the near future........i would love to get out there and help........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    It doesn't matter when they ride as there are many areas in the forest that either have an underground spring or a high water table, where the dirt until someone gets a little stuck and throttttllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeee eeee until they are unstuck. You are right about posting signs and having most people turn around, that has been one of the complaints my mx friends have had, they didn't know what was off limits.
    I agree, signs are the first step, and as far as those spots where its wet practically all the time, I suggested rock armoring to the land manager. He really liked that idea. Its a big project so who knows if it will happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    I have photos of Edmunds House Trail that are dug out due to motorized vehicles (notice the word VEHICLE) nailing it to get out. This was always a little damp 4-5 years ago, and late this summer it was awful. I haven't been down there as it is a highly hunted area, and with the closing of deer season, I will probably go and will take some pics. This is one area that would highly benefit from narrowing it down using either blueberry bushes (all over the place there) or saplings. Not high on the list but would be a good project.
    Too bad, I liked doing that loop out to the gas line and by the boiling spring trail (its the trail that comes out by the rod and gun club). Agreed, a worthy project but not high on the list.

    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    I have experience writing grants (not my regular job but it's my way of giving back), mostly for 501c3 nonprofits, if the Wattupa res needs some help let me know, I do it for free for the things I love (animals and bikes). I also maintained trails out west for a long time, so I still have some grant connections and resources should you need it.
    Great, I meet with Mike from the Watuppa res every thursday. I'll mention this to him and bug him to get some signs for the moto trail again.

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    BTW Chris, I think the Esker Trail is across from the Mill Pond off of Bell Rock. I had initially thought they 'closed' these trails as they piled dirt up in front of them when they paved. I hope it's gone.
    Yep thats the Esker trail. Its marked as "feature" #6 on the map. The dirt is gone and these trails are definitely still open.

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    An additional BTW...two actually -1) WHAT were all the wooden stacks of rather LARGE looking railroad ties by the power station about a month ago (I got the flu haven't been back yet) and 2) What's going on with the big dig south of the mx parking lot on Bell Rock Road? I think that's south anyway...
    1. Electrical company is fixing up their lines. They use the huge railroad ties to make temporary bridges over the wet spots.

    2. The "big dig" is private property. As far as I know he's excavating aggregate and plans on building houses (or selling lots) there when thats done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdurand View Post
    Mill Pond, i know that.......but is the Esker Trail "br2" or "br1"........br2 to me and the wednesday night freetown riders is known as the Hiking Trail,......from Bell Rock it has a "only if you know its there kinda entrance".....and br1 had the old ratty sign hung across the entrance...if i remember right it was more a double track.......at the point from bell rock where they meet @ br3...has anyone seen the little lizardman tag ?? is that Esker ??

    Again if there are any trails in mind for the near future........i would love to get out there and help........
    Esker trail is BR2. BR1 is more of a double track and flatter and wetter.

    I haven't seen the lizardman tag yet.

    As far as the next trails on the list, I'd like to get the trail from BR11 to BR7 cleared. Its got a lot of blowdowns and is getting overgrown. Its really technical. Also there is an trail that is not on the map that I'd like to clear. If you head dead south from BR4 and cross Canfield trail there is a faint old singletrack that goes south then turns west and comes out on Bell Rock road just south of the Canfield Trail lot. There is an old white rug on the side of the road right near the trailhead on Bell Rock. Its a nice singletrack, but its gonna need a lot of pruning and cutting. I was saving both those trails for trailwork days because they are such big jobs, but if you want to go chip away at them, go for it.

    Other than that, go nuts, clear your favorite trail. Every little bit helps.

    Also, I was talking to Bob at Bikeworks the other day, found out that you are one of the "two guys". That's a great trail. I was blown away by how much digging and sculpting you guys did. The trails I built out there were more of a rake and ride deal. They took years to get burned in.
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    On BR11 to BR7 - I have tried to ride that trail a long time ago and that's when I decided there were only so many trails, so little time. This would be a great one to clear.

    The other faint one with the white rug, I'm thinking that's what has been named the Hanger Eater as well...I tried to ride it then walk it then single speed it back as I bent my hanger. If you go across Bell Rock from that area, there are a set of trails that are 'sort of' on the map and are alot of fun. Those are the ones I usually maintain. Haven't been out but I probably will sometime this week or the next now that hunting is done.

    Thanks for answering my two questions. Maybe I will buy a lot when they go up for sale. Can you imagine jetting out your back door into the forest? YES! And I wouldn't have to figure out where to park to night ride.

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    Also, post if you are going to have another trail day. I have a 20 inch saw. And a couple of hand saws. I might be there on Sunday at the trail across the road from Cantfield.

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    Nice, I'm glad you agree on those trails. We've got the stuff from hunters lot down to copicut woods pretty much clear. After those next 2 trails I mentioned, the plan is to expand over into the DD trails. Which aren't that bad, thanks to you.

    I used to dream about buying one of those lots up by the triangle when they were for sale, but it just wasn't realistic at the time. I'm pretty much settled here in Westport, but living in the middle of the forest like that would be a mountain bikers dream. From that spot you could probably ride 25 miles out your back door without touching pavement. Not too bad.

    I'm not sure if I can make it out there sunday, I'll get back to you if I can.
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    Here is the map I plan on putting up on the NEMBA site. Not all of these trails are cleared, but most should be by next summer. Its a little different from the one with the pink circle on it. This is the most accurate map at the moment.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8343971059/" title="Copicut Trails by Ice Cream Jay, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8217/8343971059_8415a3a320_b.jpg" width="798" height="1024" alt="Copicut Trails"></a>
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    I can't make this weekend for trail work but I can the following week (19th or the 20th). I can bring a chainsaw also. Maybe hit the trail near the Canfield Parking Lot and then some of the DD trails? Hopefully the snow keeps melting and we can do it on bikes and cover more ground.

    Also, the owner of Spark Bikes in Taunton is interested in bring a race back to the forest. I'm going to give him a hand with the layout if he gets permission form the land managers. Are any racers reading this thread? If so list some of the trails you liked and would want to race on. There are trails I like and would want included but I'm curious what other might like.

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    I can probably do both Sundays. I am going to go through the DD trails that I maintain and see what has happened since Sept or so. The ones I usually work on go towards the power lines, so if you took the one that crosses by the mill pond I don't usually hit that one. I can probably hit most of it. I will mark where I stop if I can't do the whole thing. I will give a report when I do it on Sunday.

    As for a race, I would like to see the part of the map that Jay has posted instead of the part close to the ranger station. I am all for a 25 or 50 miler. Really like the dougie trail, then when it crosses the powerlines down through there and to the right, where it pops out on Grinnell. Would be awesome to figure out a 50 miler with no repeat laps. Even better if you made another race for cx like Iron Cross in Michaux State Forest in PA which has very similar terrain to Freetown. Ah, but that's the big picture right...



    BTW does anyone have a map of the old Firecracker race? Someone took me on some of the trails, they are great trails but soooo overgrown. They were directly across from the topside of the ledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    BTW does anyone have a map of the old Firecracker race? Someone took me on some of the trails, they are great trails but soooo overgrown. They were directly across from the topside of the ledge.
    The old race used the trail that parallels Copicut road and then back up into the sandy hills. Then it went up and over the ledge. Unfortunately the trail that is across the road from the top of the ledge (we used to call it "Break your Bike") is now gone. It's really choked with blowdown and heads right into the part of the forest that Fall River took to make Innovation Way. A lot of the trails out there could be brought back, but much of that land is now slated for development so it's not worth it. Definitely a bummer, there were a bunch of really good trails back there.

    There were other courses they used, but the part I described was in it each time I raced it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougiestares View Post
    I can't make this weekend for trail work but I can the following week (19th or the 20th). I can bring a chainsaw also. Maybe hit the trail near the Canfield Parking Lot and then some of the DD trails? Hopefully the snow keeps melting and we can do it on bikes and cover more ground.
    You need a fatbike Doug.

    I can't make the 19th, but I could probably do the 20th.
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    Jay, I recently picked up a back pack leaf lower. What are your thoughts on using it to clear some of the trails? Better to do it now or should I wait until spring?


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    Quote Originally Posted by richlather View Post
    Jay, I recently picked up a back pack leaf lower. What are your thoughts on using it to clear some of the trails? Better to do it now or should I wait until spring?
    I think it depends on the temperature. I've tried raking in the winter, and if its below freezing nights the leaves freeze to the ground. Many times even when it was a warm day the leaves that were buried were still frozen to the ground. I was just taking off a fraction of them, it wasn't worth it. I would think that you'd want a day or two of above freezing weather to make sure they're thawed.

    There is still quite a bit of snow out there so I would wait at least a week and see how the weather is. I've been holding off on leafblowing myself.
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    Trail work day Jan 20

    Dougiestares and I will be having a trail work day on January 20. Probably meet around 9 at the Canfield Lot. Its basically a pull-off with room for a couple of cars, but we can park on the side of the road too. We are going to work on the singletrack that is south of the eastern part of Canfield trail. The trail we are working on isn't marked on the official map, but its a nice trail and will make it easier to loop into the DD area of trails.

    We will be cutting blowdowns and pruning back the side vegetation, so loppers, hedge trimmers, hand pruners, etc. If conditions allow we will probably be riding.

    Directions/map below. Make sure you come in from the north end of Bell Rock Rd (Corner of Copicut Rd/ High street in Assonet). The part that comes from Fall River is not paved and in pretty rough shape.
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    anyone know what the trails are like at Copicut? still icey / snow covered in spots? was thinking of riding there tomorrow but maybe i'll stick the roads .

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    Freetown is very wet right now, many areas on the dirt roads are flooded or covered in wet sand. The copicut trails are completely clear of snow/ice.

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    Jay,

    I rode a small portion of the DD trail yesterday. On the Jan 20th workday I might be able to make it. I am not sure if you are talking about clearing the section from DD9 to somewhere around MP2 that has several blow downs. I have wanted to cut these for years but by the time I get there, I'm too beat. Yesterday I cut a few small (6 inch diameter) ones (I only had a bow saw, but carried lopers and some other stuff) and wow, cleared alot of downed pine. There is a huge wet mess on one of these trails that I would so like to correct but not sure how with mx riding it. Anyway, if you came from the powerline side down Mowry and took the first right, that is your best bet to clear down the two giant logs that are blocking the trail. I did what I call "first responder" on the trail so it's passable but it's not my usual trim job. I left the little log puzzle intact where you cross and log and manage between two trees. It was affectionately named Ma Barker a couple of years ago. LOL yes these things have names.

    I do have a photo that I'm going to post. I am not sure who is sawing the small pines in this area, but use loppers. And lop them close to the ground. These turn into tubeless tire killers on the side of the trail. I'm sure whoever did it was trying to help, they can borrow my loppers next time. So much easier than a saw (which appears to be what they were using).

    I rode from the rangers lot down BR and there are a few blow downs at BR5. I cleared a few other ones. There were mx and quads on the trail and you will see how they rammed through the pines to get around the blowdowns. Also the gate to BR (Grinnell Path) was open. Please let the ranger know there is no chain nor lock but I put a stick in it. Like that is going to hold them back. The trails north of the one DD9 I have not touched. I know there is a trail in there that I tried to ride a year ago and had to walk and fight my way most of the time. It will be beautiful once cleaned up.

    See you hopefully on Sunday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by icecreamjay View Post
    We are going to work on the singletrack that is south of the eastern part of Canfield trail.
    Funny, i hiked that trail today with my dogs......its really a great trail, and yes needs a hell of a lot of work......i wish, oh i wish i could make it out there but my wife is returning from a trip and will be getting her from the airport........but good in the same i will head over to that one when i get a chance......for sure the weekend after.....there are a lot of downs and brush to be cut back.....if you finish great work...if not i will be out there continuing next sunday or saturday.......

    i noticed that you posted a map with a different trail config.........good, cause i was going to question the map that i have.........the trails are not there....haha

    wish i could get out there again with the group.......but anyhow.....good luck this sunday......

    oh and yes to swansea dam.....i did alot of work in there.....2 trails under my belt "2 guys " and "chutes and ladders"...they were all dug out with a hoe...a big one, cant forget the bridges

    take care....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdurand View Post
    Funny, i hiked that trail today with my dogs......its really a great trail, and yes needs a hell of a lot of work......i wish, oh i wish i could make it out there but my wife is returning from a trip and will be getting her from the airport........but good in the same i will head over to that one when i get a chance......for sure the weekend after.....there are a lot of downs and brush to be cut back.....if you finish great work...if not i will be out there continuing next sunday or saturday.......

    i noticed that you posted a map with a different trail config.........good, cause i was going to question the map that i have.........the trails are not there....haha

    wish i could get out there again with the group.......but anyhow.....good luck this sunday......

    oh and yes to swansea dam.....i did alot of work in there.....2 trails under my belt "2 guys " and "chutes and ladders"...they were all dug out with a hoe...a big one, cant forget the bridges

    take care....
    Yeah, I've run into Marco a few times and I asked him what he used to dig that trail in. I asked him if he'd used a pulaski or mcleod and he replied "portuguese hoe". It cracked me up. Nobody can dig like the portuguese. I don't mean to offend anyone, but if you live in the Fall River area you know what I mean.

    I'm not sure how many are going to show up Sunday, but Doug and I will be out there and I think he's dragging at least one other guy with him. I think if we can just clear all the blowdowns out it will be a victory.

    No problem if you can't make it. If you can get out there on your own time and do some pruning that would be great. That's actually a really good idea. I can just post the current trails we're working on and anyone who can get out there and do a little work can feel free to jump in and do as much or little as they want. It all adds up. On the flip side, if there's a trail you like we've been neglecting, post it up.

    About the map. I did add in a few trails and I took out a lot of the boundaries. I think they confuse the map and they actually cover up a couple of trails so they are really hard to see. I'd like to get the whole forest done eventually. I also want to get the maps online so people can download and print what they need.
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    Hey guys, I will be at Cantfield around 9. I was going to work on DD trimming or I can help you. Let me know! Karin

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujubee View Post
    Hey guys, I will be at Cantfield around 9. I was going to work on DD trimming or I can help you. Let me know! Karin
    We'll be there, look for a blue GMC pickup and a Honda Ridgeline. We plan on hitting the trail to the east of Bell Rock Road thats south of Canfield trail. Hopefully we get that done and do a little of the DD trails too.
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    Tried out all the CH trails today, real nice stuff, looking forward to checking out the rest of it. I've ridden a lot in the north end of the forest by the quarry but had no idea these trails were there. I'd like to put in some time with you guys clearing trails, can't do it this Sunday but I'll keep an eye on the board..Steve

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    i plan on being out there next weekend..........if we could get a progress report from this weekend that would be great.......

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    They're calling for some snow early this week, the trail conditions are good right now but that may change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdurand View Post
    i plan on being out there next weekend..........if we could get a progress report from this weekend that would be great.......
    We did the trail that is south of Canfield trail on the east side of Bell Rock Rd. Its been cleared of blowdowns and pruned back. It's in good shape to ride, except it could stand to be raked or blown.

    We headed out there and noticed that a lot of the blowdowns were already cut, then a half hour later two older guys on dirtbikes rode by. They had a chainsaw with them and said they were the ones who were cutting. Technically they aren't supposed to be out there, but if they are doing trailwork then fine with me. They also said not to make the entrances too clear so that the other dirt bikes wouldn't find the trail. Go figure. These guys weren't spinning their tires or anything. They seemed like good guys.

    My next target is BR11 to BR7. Another trail that needs it is from BR5 to BR4. This one isn't really that crucial, cause there is that parallel trail just south of it.

    Let me know what time you're going out. I may be able to get out and help. Supposed to snow tonight and maybe again this weekend so that may screw things up.
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    The new/old trail is awesome. The two guys on dirt bikes commented they had been riding there for years, which judging how little impact they did to the trail, they really have been. You couldn't tell they had even been over the trail. The sad thing is dirt bikers like them keep the trails open and packed, it's the other ones that dig everything up. Heck, they even wanted to hide the trails from "them".

    Depending on the temperatures and snow, I will be out on the DD trails with a few people cutting blow downs on Saturday. I will report what we get done. I know of several big trees over the trail and I can give some feedback on what trails we didn't get.


    BTW Jay...what's the make/model of that hedge trimmer you brought? That might be my next 'big purchase'. Made it soooo much faster.

    Maybe once we get all the trails clear and accounted, maybe we can have adopt a trails where people can work on their assigned trail whenever they can. Just a thought for the future, right now there is plenty to do before summer seems like there might be a good pool of people that want to help but not all at the same time.

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    Its an Echo gas powered trimmer. I got it at Home Depot.

    I like the adopt a trail idea. I think a semi-coordinated effort works well. Once all the signs are up it'll be easier to identify specific trails that need pruning work. Then if someone has some time and motivation they can just head out and work at their own convenience.

    I hope eventually to use group trailwork days to do more extensive work. There are some spots where I'd like to do some small reroutes to improve flow. Specifically the Copicut hill trail, CH3-4-5.
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    Anyone up for some TM Saturday morning? 9ish? I'm thinking about hiking in from the hunters lot and clearing the blow downs on BR11 to BR7. If that trail is not to bad I might continue to the trail off of Grinnell Path to HS3.

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    Jay and I got out this am and cleared br11 to br7. It's completely pruned out though we did pick leave the brush on thebground up towards br7 as we got tired. Still a couple big blow downs that'll we get next time with a sharpened chainsaw. Only and inch or so of snow and very rideable.

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    Trailwork Ride

    If anyone out there is interested in helping out, we're going to go for a trail work ride this Sunday morning. Sawing and picking up branches. Any help is greatly appreciated, should be a real nice day to be out in the woods.

    We're going to park at the Canfield lot on Bell Rock Rd at 9am.
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    Do you still have to come in from the assonet side to Canfield or is the road fixed up yet?


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    Yeah, you have to come in from Assonet. They aren't going to pave any further. Just like Fall River to waste a bunch of money paving half of the road. The half that leads to Assonet no less.
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    Went out Tuesday a.m. And rode/cleared CH7 to CH3 loop. Wasn't too bad until near the house. I tried riding up CH3 to the fire tower. That trail needs lots of all around help. The horseshoe trail is ok but needs a little touch up of the beech tree branches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by richlather View Post
    Went out Tuesday a.m. And rode/cleared CH7 to CH3 loop. Wasn't too bad until near the house. I tried riding up CH3 to the fire tower. That trail needs lots of all around help. The horseshoe trail is ok but needs a little touch up of the beech tree branches.


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    Cool! I'm planning to hit it again with the chainsaw on Sunday. I was planning to park at the CH1 trail head and focus on the loop south of the power lines. Probably around 8:30 - 9:00.

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    We got out yesterday and hiked CH1 -> CH2 -> CH7 -> HS11 -> CH6 to CH3 that loop is all clear. However, there were spots with 1.5 - 2 feet of snow. It'll be a couple weeks before that is all gone.

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    I was out in the forest this morning putting up signs. We got 15 more intersection markers up, mostly around Payne Rd, Makepeace Rd, and Hathaway Rd.

    The snow melted like mad, I haven't been out near Copicut Hill where we encountered that really deep snow, but I'd have to imagine its mostly melted off. I bet our footprints helped a bunch too. Still plenty squishy though. Hopefully by next weekend everything will be clear and rideable.
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    Hey Jay,

    I rode last week along the Bell Rock then tried the trail I maintained across Bell Rock from the Cantfield yellow gate. It is completely closed down due to blow overs. I have a couple of guys that are willing to go out either this Saturday or the next. We got about a few hundred feet in and turned around. Trees and branches everywhere. I will report back when it's cleaned up. The grassy trails across the road from Copicut Hill seem to be all clear and awesome. I can imagine other trails must be just as blown down.

    Liking the new signs! Where can I get a full size map? The ranger station?


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    I was out in the forest this morning putting up signs. We got 15 more intersection markers up, mostly around Payne Rd, Makepeace Rd, and Hathaway Rd.

    The snow melted like mad, I haven't been out near Copicut Hill where we encountered that really deep snow, but I'd have to imagine its mostly melted off. I bet our footprints helped a bunch too. Still plenty squishy though. Hopefully by next weekend everything will be clear and rideable.

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    You can grab a map at either the ranger station or Copicut Woods. I hope to stock some at Scotties Cycles in Westport as well.

    I went out that trail across from Canfield trail the other day to put up the DD 10 sign. Luckily I brought the saw, so that trail is now mostly clear up to the DD 10 intersection. Past that is probably a mess.

    Me, Doug and crew did most of the Copicut Hill trails as well as the main HS trails, so that area is in pretty good shape. I rode there today with the hand saw and did probably 10-12 more blowdowns as well as bent a bunch of pines back up. The snow is gone and the trails are fairly dry, the Copicut trails should be in good shape by the weekend, if we don't get too much snow tonight.

    I rode some of the moto trail and the CCC trail to put up signs and they were a disaster, had to cut my way in just to get to the intersections. So the stuff we haven't touched is bound to be in rough shape. I don't think those trails got cleared from the hurricane, never mind the blizzard.
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    I rode down HS10 the other day. It's gonna need help. If the weather is decent this coming week I might try to go midweek

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    Yeah, that trail is faint. I didn't even know it was there until I had to put up the sign. I actually found it by riding in from the back and I had to clear a lot of pines to get through. I got out there and did the Copicut Hill trail this week. I pruned it all and then leafblew it. Its not perfect, but its way better. Just needs to be ridden and a bit more light pruning.

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    Rode mb1 and horseshoe trail today before getting a flat and realizing I had nothing to fix it with that's next on the list of stuff to buy. 1 blowdown on horseshoe but that was it looked good cant wait to get out and see more trails are they all open to mountain bikers? No snow and pretty dry where I was for a trail update.

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    Trail Names

    Hey, I'm getting ready to submit a writeup and map for Copicut Woods to the Nemba places to ride site. I'm looking to name a couple of the better trails so we can distinguish them and also to help people get out and find the good trails.

    The trail I really wanted to name is the long windy one that heads northeast from br7 to the unmarked intersection on Grinnell Path. Its a great trail, and as you can see, tough to describe via map intersections. Long story short, I've been reading the book about paranormal activity in Freetown and came upon the chapter on Pukwudgies. That's right, Freetown has its own mythical creatures, called Pukwudgies.

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    So I'm gonna call it the Pukwudgie trail, because I find the idea hilarious and I like small, irritating, mischievous gremlin/troll type creatures.

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    I think pukwudgie trail is awesome wish I was more creative and help you out. Let me know when your doing your next trail clean up would love to help i am Free most weekends.

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    Jay, I'm planning to go out in the a.m. tomorrow, 3/27 for about 2 or so hours to do a little clearing. How are the HS trails looking?


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    Like the trail naming idea. Pukwudgies. Now I have someone to blame my inability to clear some of the rock gardens on.


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    Hey, I can't get out there tomorrow, I've got to work. I rode today and did a little work. Actually a lot more work than I intended. The HS trails were in pretty tough shape. I was kind of bummed because I rode that loop we cleared about a month ago (Grinnell Path out to the "Pukwudgie trail" then back by the old moto trail over the rock) and it was in bad shape again. A lot of the pines got bent right back by those last couple of storms and there were a few big trees down. I cleared some, but ran out of time to do it all. Pretty much all of the trails south of the powerlines are in good shape at least.
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    Yesterday's ride was ch3 to ch6 then hs11, hs8 to br7 down pukwudgie but took the bailout near br10 because I was running out of time. Not much cutting but I pushed back a bunch of small stuff


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    Jay,

    Awesome job on the Copicut hill trail!! Thanks for the effort. We rode it today and it was actually enjoyable going up hill. Still needs some rock work or a reroute in a couple spots but it rode nice. The usually loop was in pretty good shape. However, BR11 to BR7 is trashed. I would say it looks worse then when we cleared it back in January. A lot of big trees down...frustrating!

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    Has anyone ridden Landon hill path recently? I'm looking to ride from the ranger station and was wondering if I should bring a saw


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    Trying to piece together a longer loop


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    Just a reminder to everyone out there riding
    I went out 3 weeks ago and now have Lyme disease
    So remember to check for ticks it's gonna be a bad
    Year and yeah I forgot to check so that little sucker fed
    On me for 2 days but should be back riding in a week or two!

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    Hey, Anyone know "exactly" where the fire was that burned 21 acres off of Copicut Road this wknd?? I was there Sunday, knew nothing about it, but road some easier stuff due to the group I was with.

    Brush fire burns 21 acres on Freetown/Fall River State Forest - Taunton, MA - The Taunton Daily Gazette

    The thing that fires me up is that that they say "hikers and mtn bikers" start camp fires. It fires me up because on several occasions I have come across an unlocked gate due to vandalism and there is a somewhat still smoking fire only feet down the trail. Whoever is rolling down the trails and considering it "off roading" is making fires in the middle of the trail. What hiker or biker in their right mind would put the fire in the middle of the trail? Not any I know. An EP had told me months ago they were aware of this and were trying to catch the people (in trucks) that were doing it but were having a hard time as they were doing it at night. I really hope they take this seriously if this fire was caused by a campfire. It is very dry for this time of year.

    Jay, let me know when you'll be out again, I can help. I know, hard to coordinate schedules...yes, those trails are a mess, but we can get together and hit it! I am usually out Sundays and Tues/Thurs afternoons.

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    Hey, I was wondering about the fire as well. I've been super busy with work, coaching softball and I've been a bit beat up (back, wrist, etc), then my kids gave me the stomach bug, so I haven't been out there since about a month ago. The paper said the fire was off Copicut road, in Freetown, so I would guess it was somewhere between the horse farm and the hunters lot.
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    hi was pointed to this thread about these trails i have ridden here once and liked it but got real lost. are there any group guided rides that go out?
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    Not really any regular organized rides. There are intersection markers now that coordinate with the map, so it is easier to navigate now.

    The Copicut trails are definitely marked and better maintained than most of the trails in the State forest. I imagine the moto riders are out clearing their loop, so that should be clear, but that trail is very tough riding.
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    I rode this am and found where the fire had happened. It's about midway on the pukwudgie trail.


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    Great to hear about all the work being done, as well as the mapping.

    Jay, good call on the Pukwudgie trail name! All those Freetown stories are great...when I used to ride there as a kid, my friends and I were pretty adamant about not getting caught out there after dark!

    I gotta get back out there soon...if anyone plans on going, please post up here or PM me. Thanks!

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    Hey I responded to your other thread on Freetown and just found this one. I don't ride but I do run Freetown/Swansea/weetamoo and some others. When I do Freetown I usually did the ledge side and east of the dirtbike parking lot. I'm going to start venturing off to copicut side this year once I start going there again. I'm willing to lend a hand when you guys go.

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    Great to hear all the positive responses! Salty, I see lots of trail runners out around the Copicut area. Bummer that the fire was on the Pukwudgie trail. Any trail damage? Stuntman, lets get out and ride soon, the ice cream stores are settling into a nice rhythm, employees are trained, college help back, time to ride!

    Bill Boles and I just finished up a writeup for Copicut Woods on the NEMBA places to ride site. Its got my finished copy of the map in PDF form as well as some basic info /parking diurections, etc. Link below :

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    I went yesterday and Friday. Are those big maps available yet? Friday I parked at copicut main lot hoping to grab one and use it on the fly while running but there weren't any there. I started on horseshoe back to indian town hoping to hop right back in but came to what looked like 2 cold trails. So I just went north on copicut until that last house and went back in. Went as far north as that old abandoned truck. Far more than I wanted to do that day around 9 mile total counting walking/running. Yesterday was better all around, ran into a couple of guys on bikes.

    We should collaborate and build a trail map with openstreetmap so it would be available on some gps apps. If you guys aren't familiar with it here's an example. These are the trails at village park Swansea. OpenStreetMap

    It would take a little while to make. Something is better than nothing though.

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    Currently I use Garmin connect and Strava when I ride. Does that app. Show where on the trail you are? With the Garmin connect I can create a route then load it into my bike computer and follow the route

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    I know Doug usually has a garmin with him when he rides, I'm sure he's got lots of GPS tracks, but I don't know if they are posted online anywhere. I agree that an easily accessible GPS trail map would be very nice to have.
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    As far as I know of For phone gps apps I know that motionx and Trimble utilize openstreetmap/opentrailmap. Also there are a couple of apps that allow you to record tracks and upload them to the openstreet site so they can be viewed.

    I don't have knowledge on your garmin unit but I have heard of people using OSM data on their garmin GPS devices

    If I take my dog for a hike there I will try to get the ball rolling on some OSM tracks. I figure it would be most accurate walking.

    Also keep up on the tick checks. I logged a lot of mileage in the woods last year and I think I maybe pulled a half dozen or less of off me that weren't latched on the whole season. I pulled off 4 the other day and found one latched on to me early the next morning 3/4 of the way up my leg.

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    The Sadness of Fire

    I had been riding the trails for a couple of weeks now and forgot about the fire. Couldn't find it. Had more time yesterday so decided to ride one of my favorite parts between BR10 and BR11 (off of the hunters lot and then to left) and started to smell "west coast burn" smell. The funny thing is when I described this trail to other people, I called it Tahoe because it's very much like what you would come across out west (minus the trees and brush) and now...it's alot like what you would find in the Sierras: because it's burned. You will run into the burn area right after a short drop on some rocks and right when the rock garden begins where there is a little spring. I didn't ride the second part, I took the bail out to the grassy trail.

    You cannot see it from Copicut. It burned from close to BR 10 over to the grass trail and across. Those big rocks in the brush are now quite visible.

    The trail was maintained by someone. I rode only half of it because I ran out of time from walking and looking at the ferns.

    I am attaching a couple of pics, like I said the trail is 'ok' but the forest will come back even stronger, the ferns are already popping through. (Hopefully I got these pics attached right)

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    As for GPS, I use a different one that I can't remember the name of, and I need to run GPS Babel to convert it. I use it primarily to figure out where I am. I think out there, it's easier to set a few way points on the fire roads and then orient yourself in the forest. Maybe Doug has one?

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    I rode through there today as well. That trail is the one we've been calling the Pukwudgie trail, we've done a couple of passes on that one with the trimmer/saw. Its the one shown in your first picture. I'm guessing the firefighters wet the trail down as a fire break, because everything is burned except the actual trail, like in your second pic.

    I rode a bunch of the Copicut trails that we've been maintaining and the trails around there are in pretty good shape. I cut a few more limbs with the hand saw and I ran into 2-3 spots that need the chainsaw, but that's not bad considering I covered roughly 10-12 miles. It looked like there has been a bit more traffic out there and the trails are getting ridden in a bit.
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    That's good the trails are seeing some traffic . I'm up for some riding or grooming soon, so if anyone is planning on going, post up!

    I'd also be interested in a after work weekly ride too if anyone else is interested.
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    Went out the other day and recleared from Canfield to BR 4. BR7-11 was in pretty bad shape. Has anyone ridden any of the trails off the Edmond house trail recently? I haven't been that way in a very long time and was wondering what shape they are in.


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    Last I heard the Edmond House trail had been taken over by Jeeps and 4x4's. I haven't been out there for years myself. Doug and I started clearing BR7-11, but that was before the blizzard.
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    I'm gonna have to check that area out someday

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    I'm gonna have to check that area out someday
    Some dirt bikers told me that there is a new trail out in the Edmond house area too. From what he could show me its somewhere off of the town line trail. From what they described it's pretty nice.

    Have you ever ridden Ridge Hill? Some nice trails there, but the only about 4-5 miles worth and the only way to connect to the rest of the trails is the gas line (which blows) or trespassing across the dyke and then crossing the river (its a tiny river... usually). I dream of a trail that connects CR5 to CH1. There's a beautiful ridge with 80-100' of vertical that runs north for about a mile. Oh well, maybe someday. The trails there were pretty fun as I remember. One of them was pretty swampy but the others were pretty nice.
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    Group Ride Interest?

    I've been thinking about getting a group ride together for awhile now. Unfortunately I'm really busy during the best riding weather and I can only commit to once or twice a month. The times that work best for me would be Thursday evening or Saturday morning. Maybe one of each per month. Anyone want to volunteer to help out/come along, it'd be nice to have someone else to help out.
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    Jay,
    Thursday evening would work good for me. I've been caught up with spring kid activities but that is winding down in another week. Maybe the 27th?

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    The 27th would work for me. I'm also looking at July 13th as another date. Then maybe try for another Thursday night at the end of July (25th?).
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    I've been riding Freetown occasionally and stumbled across the pukwudgie trail shortly after the fire, it was like nothing I'd ever experienced before.

    I'm absolutely interested in a group ride out there and may be bringing a friend, we're both a bit slow though.

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    NEMBA Group ride Thursday June 27

    Ok, looks like Thursday the 27th is a go. I'm gonna post it up on the Nemba boards and FB page.

    Xufima, no worries, it will be an intermediate type ride and we'll go as fast as the slowest rider. More of a chance to get some people together and show them the trails. Especially people who've never been and want to try the trails without the trial and error of exploring and navigating themselves. I'm thinking roughly 8-10 miles or so, hoping to ride for about 2 hours.

    So we'll park at Copicut Woods lot on Indian Town road, 6 O'clock Thursday the 27th.
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    This sounds like a great time and I will be in town in a couple of weeks and would love to join up with the group if it should turn into a regular thing.

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    Going to be in Westport MA this weekend. Anyone looking to ride? I'd love to check out the stuff at the SE Bioreserve.
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    Hey Chris, I think I passed you out there today (at the creek crossing). Unfortunately I didn't see your post until after I got back.

    I pre rode the loop I was planning on riding Thursday night and did a bit of cleanup. The trails have grown in and are tighter than I'd like. I only hit 5 blowdowns, which is pretty good. I pruned out a lot of beech limbs which had sagged with the weight of leaves and took out a bunch of stuff still bent over from the blizzard. Overall things are a lot better than they were a year ago, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

    Anyways, anyone who is around this Thursday night, come on by for a ride.
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    I did a loop in Weetamoo on Saturday and another on Sunday. They were both about 8 miles. I will post up earlier next time I am in the neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet Julio View Post
    I did a loop in Weetamoo on Saturday and another on Sunday. They were both about 8 miles. I will post up earlier next time I am in the neighborhood.
    Next time you do, I'll try to tag along. I ride Weetamoo once in a while.

    Jay, looking forward to Thursday!

    Any of you other guys that have been riding Freetown...any interest in doing a weekly ride? I really need to start riding more, but I'm not a big fan of hitting Freetown alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Next time you do, I'll try to tag along. I ride Weetamoo once in a while.

    Jay, looking forward to Thursday!

    Any of you other guys that have been riding Freetown...any interest in doing a weekly ride? I really need to start riding more, but I'm not a big fan of hitting Freetown alone.
    I usually ride Freetown alone and I'd love a weekly ride.

    Looks like I can't make it tonight though.

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    Edmund House is so so right now. It seems that some of the mess caused by trucks has flattened out a little. There are a lot of downed trees. I will have to look for the new trail there are a couple there that I have followed but they are probably either hunter or just deer trails because they just disappear.

    I ride from the main lot on Tues and Thurs. Riding today but not sure with the weather how far I will get.

    I need to remember my folding saw. A lot of little stuff down, could easily be cleaned up.

    Don't forget bug spray. And if you are out longer than an hour, get a small can to put in your pack because you will need to re-apply. Deer flies are awful so are skeeters!

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    Last I heard the Edmond House trail had been taken over by Jeeps and 4x4's. I haven't been out there for years myself. Doug and I started clearing BR7-11, but that was before the blizzard.

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    Looking to ride this Thursday (the 4'th) if anyone is able. Can do Copicut or Weetamoo.
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    I will be heading down tomorrow night and would be interested in meeting up, if not on Thursday then some other day before we head back North on the 15th. I have done basically no MTB riding in the area so would love to check out what is around and will be staying in Westport right next to Horseneck. Drop me a line and let's see what we can put together.

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    I've got Thursday off, but promised the kids I'd bring em to the beach. Whats the earliest you guys are up for riding? I could hit the trails at 7 and probably be back early enough not to piss off my wife too much.
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    I like the idea of an early ride and 7 would be fine for me as I will be on a similar schedule for the day and the wife and family etc. I'm still in VT now but itching to leave when my wife gets out of work so one potential problem could be if traffic was a mess and we ended up getting in late, in which case an early ride might come too early. Keep in touch about a time & location etc and hopefully it will come together, and if not I will hit the road tomorrow and catch up another time. Looking forward to it!

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    I might be good for 7. Where do you want to ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet Julio View Post
    I might be good for 7. Where do you want to ride?
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    Chris, Jay and anyone else around Westport interested in another MTB ride sometime soon? I can send out a text also but thought I would start here. Let me know!

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    I'd be down for that! Keep us posted.
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    I am back up in Cohasset. Working this week,so I'm out.
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    I'm gonna ride Thursday morning again. I sent you a text PA
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    How are the deer flies lately? I rode last week and it looked like they were starting to show up

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    Freetown 50!

    Well it looks like Freetown has a race again! This is great news and should bring a lot of attention and riders into the forest. It's a fifty miler (2 24 mile laps, rounded up to 50) and intended to be very hard. There will be a solo 50, 50 mile 2 person relay, or a solo 25.

    I rode the course last weekend (1 lap anyways) and its a pretty good mix of singletrack and fireroad, with a bit of pavement.

    Here's the link to the official site. The race is September 15 and registration starts on Aug 15.

    THE RACES | Freetown 50
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    Great to see the forest getting a race again. Will any of the trails need any clearing? How long did a lap take you?

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    One lap took me about 3:15, but that was at a slow pace. It was very hot and humid and I didn't want to get heatstroke. I stopped and took my helmet off for the fire road sections, stopping to put it back on for the singletracks. I also tried to go at a "sustainable" pace just to see how I felt after 1 lap. I was pretty beat. I want to attempt the 50 miler, but it will be just to try to finish, I won't be "racing".

    The trails were in pretty good shape. The fire roads are clear and for singletrack they use the moto trail for the northern parts. The course does take the Esker trail, then fireroads to the Watuppa res, then through Copicut woods and out by the "House" trail to the Pukwudgie trail. Most of it was in pretty good shape.

    I'm pretty sure Spark and NE racing are gonna do some trail work. I'll try to get in touch with them and see when they plan on getting out there.
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    Looked at the website. I'm gonna go for the 50 myself.

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    Finishing inside of 7 hours will be challenge enough. My guess on total time for me is about 6 1/2 hours

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    So I've been in contact with Mike from Spark about trail work and I'd like to do a couple of trail work days before the race.

    From what I remember most of it is in pretty good shape. The moto trail sections are clear, maybe they could use a leaf blowing. The one spot that really needs work is the short cut connector near the private property on the house trail. There is a trail there, but its been neglected and needs some rehab.

    I'm still pretty busy with work, but I have Saturdays mostly free. I also could get out there on a Thursday morning.
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    Right now with the kids out of school during the week is really hard, but I could do a sat morning sometime

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    I'm pretty excited about the race, probably just the 25 miler. I'm hoping to ride the course next weekend.

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    I rode the other day and checked out some of the trails around the Copicut Hill area. I pruned the overgrown connector on the House trail, its still grassy, but its definitely clearer now. I also cut out a couple of trees, and as far as I know there are no other blowdowns blocking the course. If any one encounters any make a note of where, otherwise I'd say we can leave the chainsaws at home.

    I think mostly the trails just need pruning back in some places, and it would be nice to leafblow some of the singletrack, if possible.

    Maybe if we do a trail work day we can split up into teams of 2 or 3 and ride different sections of the course.

    Here's my assessment of the singletracks, I'm skipping the fire roads cause they are fine as is.

    The first 3 sections of singletrack are all on the moto trail. These trails are in pretty good shape, but there is a lot of loose debris in the trail, the motorcycles just grind up all the sticks and such. I would say these would be perfect if someone could get out and leafblow them.

    Then after you cross Copicut road at BR 18 you take a short section of moto trail. Then the next section from BR16 to BR13 is probably the trail most in need of work. After that the trail follow Whitetail loop trail back to Bell Rock Rd. This section of dirt road could use a touch up, but its rideable as is.

    The Esker trail could use a quick touch up, but mostly its OK.

    Copicut Woods is in good shape. They had their own volunteer day and I'm pretty sure they groomed the part they used for the Watuppa 5.

    The longest section of singletrack is the stuff we've been working on the most, from CH7-8-9 to CH2 then out the the northern CH7 (little map mistake there). Then up the powerlines to HS11 and out to the Pukwudgie trail. A lot of this section is pretty tight and could use pruning, but its a lot of work.

    After that there is one last section of moto trail.
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    I took the liberty of converting the scanned trail map of the Southeastern Mass Bioreserve into a Garmin GPS / iPhone / iPad / Android compatible geo-referenced KMZ map. Try this:
    http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap...e_one_tile.kmz

    More information here:
    Massachusetts: Fall River: SE Mass Bioreserve Map - GPSFileDepot

    Please try it out and let me know how it works! And please cross-post this to other forums and/or get the word out however you can. It's free!

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    Looks nice. So that map can be imported into a garmin and you can see the trail map? Thats pretty cool.

    If you want I can get you a copy without all those pink lines on there. Also I have scan of the rest of the forest (that map only covers part).
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    great job on the map. those are super helpful since I don't ride there often it makes it way easier for me to find my way around.

    is that orange line the race loop? It looks a little different from the loop they posted on strava

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    That is not the race loop.

    That was just a suggestion of a possible race loop. Its a pretty nice ride though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecreamjay View Post
    Looks nice. So that map can be imported into a garmin and you can see the trail map? Thats pretty cool.
    Yes. See some of the other screenshots on my other maps to see an example of what my trail maps look like on my Garmin GPSr. For example, see the screenshots on this page:
    Massachusetts: Milton: Blue Hills Reservation Garmin Compatible Map - GPSFileDepot

    But wait! There's more! If you click on the links in red on the map pages, you are taken to a web page where you can see the map - ON ANY device that supports a web browser, not just a Garmin GPSr. So if you click on the link on an iPhone, and allow the iPhone to open the link in Safari (NOT the Google Maps app), then you will see the map with your position overlaid in a browser window. For example, click on this link with ANY device (home computer, laptop, Android, iPhone, etc - obviously only 'mobile' devices with a GPS chip will display an 'icon' at your position):
    http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap...e_one_tile.kmz

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    If you want I can get you a copy without all those pink lines on there. Also I have scan of the rest of the forest (that map only covers part).
    PM will be sent.

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    perry: thanks for that GPS overlay. I'll have to give it a try when I get a chance. I haven't been in there as much as I'd like to have been over the summer. Is there anywhere to get that whole map of the forest/bioreserve? I was told at beginning of summer that Copicut main lot had them. All they had were those crappy watered down maps of just that area. I went in by main entrance the other day for a change of scenery and they had one behind the glass but that was it. Good to see things cleaning up in there. Lately they have been clearing around the haskall path fire road coming in from copicut rd. Cutting down dead stuff. It's night and day compared to what it looked like in the spring. The blizzard did a number in that area. Could barely walk through it.

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    The maps don't seem to get stocked as often as they should. I think they're pretty popular so when they do get put out they don't last long. Try asking the ranger at forest HQ, he should have some in his office.

    You can download a copy of the southern half of the map from the NEMBA places to ride site. It's available on the Copicut woods page. I have been working on getting the northen half done and posted to the Freetown SF page, but its not done yet. If you send me a PM with your email, I can email you a copy of what I've got. It doesn't have the whole forest, but its got most of it and should get you by until you get your hands on the official version.

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    Anyone know how safe this area is during hunting season?

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    I would be careful during Shotgun season but Archery/Primitive is pretty safe if you wear some orange and bright colors.

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    Thanks for the link, that's helpful. I imagine hunters don't use shotguns for coon and possum?

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    Also no hunting on Sundays...I try to ride in places that are heavily hunted only on Sundays this time of year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougRoscoe View Post
    Thanks for the link, that's helpful. I imagine hunters don't use shotguns for coon and possum?
    I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think you hunt possums and coons at night.

    In any case its mostly deer shotgun season you need to be wary about. Black powder season would be second on the list, not as many hunters, but those primitive rifles are not primitive at all. Although they are muzzle loaders, they are more like high tech cannons than a musket. My worst hunter/biker conflict day was during Black powder season, saw a hunter take a shot at a deer and then later had another guy line me up in his sights as I was coming up over a hill, scary shit, having a redneck in chaps aiming his rifle at me. (no offense to hunters, this guy truly was a redneck, mullet and all)

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    Rode in Freetown today and the hose on my camelbak froze, first time that's ever happened to me. Good ride though.

    There's one tree down on the f50 loop. It's around mile 20 when you take the power lines up for a short bit then take a right into the woods. Sadly we forgot our saw and didn't have enough daylight to use the hatchet.

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    That's good to hear. With all this wind I was expecting more. Are you doing the toys for tots ride on the race loop? I think it's the weekend after thanksgiving.

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    It's the Sunday after thanksgiving I think. I'd like to do it, not sure if I'm available yet.

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    Oh glad you guys mentioned that, I'm going to try to make it. What time does it start?
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    Check the Freetown 50 Facebook page. I think all the info is there

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    The ride starts at 8:30.

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    A buddy of mine rode out in Freetown yesterday and says there are a lot of trees down from this last storm, the demotivater got hit especially hard. It's going to need some work before Sunday.

    We'll be out there with hand tools tomorrow sometime.

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    Trail Care Ride - Sunday January 19

    Hey we're gonna do a trail work ride from the ranger station this Sunday. The plan is to ride and clear the 11 mile beginner loop. We'll ride at a slow pace and stop to clear any large branches or blowdowns. Regular maintenance stuff, work gloves and hand pruners. We've got saws covered.

    We'll meet at 9 am this sunday at the forest HQ and ride until probably 12. If anyone wants to come along, it will be a mellow ride.
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    Im in! should i bring my stick picker or would this be overkill?
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    Great, I should be able to make it Sunday. I'll invite a few friends as well.
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    Anyone know how the trails are making out down there with the snow? I'm guessing it should be mostly clear. Can anyone confirm? Thanks!

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    Snow cover is not an issue, might be a few spots here and there, but I think it's gonna be too muddy for decent riding without tearing things up for a few more days. I'm shooting for next weekend.

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    Going to check it out this afternoon. I'll post a report.

    BTW, the Bioreserve map on the NEMBA site is no longer accessible; it's a dead link. I think when NEMBA updated their website the file probably got lost in the shuffle. In any event, it ought to have its own link in the list of trails and not be tucked under Copicut Woods. Anyone know how to reach out to the NEMBA people about this?

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    The map link has been fixed.

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    Rode there today on my SS. Not much mud, trails were firm for the most part. I'd estimate 70% dirt, 30% snow in the 1-3in range. The snowy parts were quite a bit of work, especially as the day got warmer but it was still passable. The copicut woods section was mostly snow covered and sloppy so stay north of Indian Town road.

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    Rode the CH area today, and a bit in the HS and KP areas. Pretty rideable. Mud is no problem, but there is still some snow, which rides a bit like deep sand right now. Of the trails we rode, we estimate about 20% had snow on it, and of those sections only about 15% required a dismount and some walking. Definitely high effort muscling through the snow.

    The only real bad spots were the roads, which were either muddy, snowy or both. Or icy. Fire Tower road was like a luge run!

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    I've been walking my dogs from Copicut Woods across Indian Town rd and onto CH7. I am so impressed with all of the blowdown that have been cut and cleared. I went in with my Silky Katanaboy and fine tuned anything I could find that would block the way, or be a pain in the arse to ride over. I found sections between CH9 and CH3 to be pretty wet, after last weeks rain. I cleared quite a bit of branches from CH3 to CH4, which I think is Copicut hill. I am anxious to come in with my bike. If anyone that knows these trails is planning on a ride soon, please let me know. I now have the whole map of the Bioreserve, but would love to ride with someone who know these trails from a riding perspective. I will also keep working on the CH area of trails.

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    Awesome, thanks for the work you've done. There's quite a few of us working on the trails now. It makes a difference and it helps motivate us all to keep at it. Those Silky saws are the bomb. I'll let you know if I'm riding out there any time soon.

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    Thanks, please do. Yeah the Silkys are great. I can cut through almost anything that falls across the trail, with the Katanaboy. It's nice because I am in riding distance from the trails...8 miles!

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    +1 on the thanks, a lot has been cleaned up over the winter. I was out today for a quick solo ride and most all the CH trails are clean. Between CH4 and CH5 had some pretty good washouts, probably from last weekend. Saw some evidence of dirtbikes on most of those trails though hopefully a one time thing and not a trend.

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    Opened up a couple previously impassable trails this afternoon on foot with the chainsaw. BR7 up to BR11, really fun and a cool way to make a loop using the trail to the right of it on the map. Also a short section BR13 to BR15. This is a short fun trail, couple of small hills with an epic rock garden in between....enjoy!

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    Nice, thats awesome. BR7-11 has been on the to do list for a long time. We almost had it clear winter 2013. Then the blizzard wiped it out again. That trail was a mess, thanks, I can't wait to ride it.

    That rock garden in between BR13-15 is truly nasty. I've never cleaned that one.

    I cut the Copicut Hill trail CH3-4-5 again last week, so that ones clear now too. Pretty soon the moto's will be out and they'll recut and check all their trails. Place is shaping up nicely.

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    Awesome to hear guys! So glad there is a small community out there riding, as well as clearing the trails. I took CH1 off Copicut Rd today, with the dogs as a short cut, instead of walking in from MB13 and over to the CH area. I know Freetown in general is pretty rocky, but some of the trails, like CH4-CH5 and CH3-CH5 seem pretty damn rocky. Are you guys riding full suspension? Any hardtails?

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    I haven't been out there lately, but all my previous rides at Freetown (going back to when I was a kid in the 90's) and Copicut were on a 26'er hardtail.

    I recently got a FS 29'er and am really looking forward to getting out there on that.

    Speaking of, any upcoming rides or trail maintenance days coming up?
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    Went into Freetown Saturday in the rain with a carbon hardtail XCO bike and rode most of the CH trails over to many of the BR trails. Returned back to CH and back around Horseshoe trail and MB13, where I parked. It was a little rocky for that particular bike, but fun and most of the trails were clear...only had to dismount once. This time, I didn't bring my saw! I'd say if there is any maintenance to be done, best do it before the green heads and deer flies emerge!

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    We hit the CH 9 to CH 2 loop to day and cleared/cut the hike "a" bike stuff, but tried to leave the fun stuff.

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    Would anyone be interested in a weekly weekday group ride? Maybe meet at 5, 5:30 at Copicut Woods or FSF at the Ranger Station?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Would anyone be interested in a weekly weekday group ride? Maybe meet at 5, 5:30 at Copicut Woods or FSF at the Ranger Station?
    I would be up for a weekly group ride either the ranger station or copicut rd would work for ma as far as a meeting spot goes.

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    Cool. I'm not picky on the day, other than Thursday. I'm going to start doing the Big River group rides on Thursday.

    How about Monday, since knowing there will be riding after work will make the day suck less. (I hate Mondays)
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    I might be able to make it once in a while, I can't commit to a weekly thing though. Monday is a pretty good day for me.
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    Awesome Mondays work for me as well. Do you guys want to meet at the rangers station this Monday at 530 and take it from there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by comp94 View Post
    Awesome Mondays work for me as well. Do you guys want to meet at the rangers station this Monday at 530 and take it from there?
    I'm in for tomorrow! I don't know my way around there very well though. Are the maps available at the ranger station?
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    Ive been there a few times and every time that I think I know my way around I end up taking a wrong turn but I do have a map so I don't get into too much trouble. there should be maps available at the ranger station.

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    That's cool. I rode Arcadia in Exeter today for the first time, and I missed the group ride so I did it alone. Using MapMyRide on my phone I figured my way around pretty good.

    But unfortunately I already have to bail. A girlfriend thing came up that I have to do instead.

    If you want to go on Tuesday I'm game, if not we'll can try to get the word out for next Monday.

    Sorry to have to b!tch out already.
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    I'd be interested in weekday morning rides, not too early though.
    Anyone else have some weekdays off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    That's cool. I rode Arcadia in Exeter today for the first time, and I missed the group ride so I did it alone. Using MapMyRide on my phone I figured my way around pretty good.

    But unfortunately I already have to bail. A girlfriend thing came up that I have to do instead.

    If you want to go on Tuesday I'm game, if not we'll can try to get the word out for next Monday.

    Sorry to have to b!tch out already.
    No worries man. Tomorrow will work for me

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    OK cool, tomorrow it is.

    Anyone else??

    Oh, and speaking for myself, no way can I do morning rides.
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    SE Mass Bioreserve / Freetown SF

    I'm planning to ride the F11 loop tomorrow morning. If you're interested I plan to leave the lot around 9:00 or so and figure to take a little less than 2hours


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    I'll be in Westport this weekend. If anyone is planning to ride I would like to join. I generally ride 15 to 20 miles at a pretty good pace, so let me know.

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    EH trail area

    Anyone know anything about the beautiful trail that spurs off the Edmond House trail at EH2? This is in the eastern edge of the Bioreserve, right where Flag Swamp Rd ends.

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    The eastern edge of the trail is shown on the Bioreserve map, but then at the northern point it curves around and zig zags all the way south again, about three miles in total. (I bailed out to the main EH trail even before it ended, having way exceeded my ride time for the day after hitting some other trails elsewhere).

    This trail was tons of fun--reminded me of Otis a bit. Very flowy, some but not too many obstacles (easier than the northern section of the Bioreserve), and even some elevation change. It seems likely to have been made and maintained by cyclists.

    Anyone know the deal with this trail, who's riding it, who's maintaining it? And does anyone know if there are similar trails in this area, the EH section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougRoscoe View Post
    Anyone know anything about the beautiful trail that spurs off the Edmond House trail at EH2? This is in the eastern edge of the Bioreserve, right where Flag Swamp Rd ends.

    The eastern edge of the trail is shown on the Bioreserve map, but then at the northern point it curves around and zig zags all the way south again, about three miles in total. (I bailed out to the main EH trail even before it ended, having way exceeded my ride time for the day after hitting some other trails elsewhere).

    This trail was tons of fun--reminded me of Otis a bit. Very flowy, some but not too many obstacles (easier than the northern section of the Bioreserve), and even some elevation change. It seems likely to have been made and maintained by cyclists.

    Anyone know the deal with this trail, who's riding it, who's maintaining it? And does anyone know if there are similar trails in this area, the EH section?

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    I think I tried that section to the east of EH once a couple years ago, really cool but not marked or on the map, I had kinda forgotten about it. I've been told there's some cool singletrack on the other side of EH right in that area also, around the gas line and not on the map but I've never checked it out.

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    SE Mass Bioreserve / Freetown SF

    I've only ridden there a couple of times. Some nice trails in that area. Not sure who's doing the work, I think there was a guy with a moto doing it.


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    Was looking for Strava segments in that area and there's a 2.5 mile trail to the west of the EH Trail in the same area. Strava has the segment as the Ebola Trail. Yikes. Scottee has the KOM, no surprise. There's only three people on the leaderboard, so not many people riding it.

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    Ive ridden over there a few times, never seen anyone else over there. Not sure who's maintaining it.

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    I live close to the EH trails and walk my dogs starting at EH1 and sometimes shoot straight over to the trail just west of Eh2. I didn't set out any of these trails, but have done a lot of branch moving and cutting over the last year keeping them maintained for riders, runners and horses in mind. There is nothing worse then a network of trails becoming overgrown or unused for non-maintenance! Props to whomever first cut these trails, because they are windy and fun and not too rocky!

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    Thanks for your work on these trails. They really are in nice condition, particularly with apparently so little use.

    Quote Originally Posted by petrini View Post
    I live close to the EH trails and walk my dogs starting at EH1 and sometimes shoot straight over to the trail just west of Eh2. I didn't set out any of these trails, but have done a lot of branch moving and cutting over the last year keeping them maintained for riders, runners and horses in mind. There is nothing worse then a network of trails becoming overgrown or unused for non-maintenance! Props to whomever first cut these trails, because they are windy and fun and not too rocky!

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    I rode a bunch of those trails today and its in better shape than I last saw. There's a whole bunch of singletrack that isn't on the map.

    There is a singletrack that starts (or ends?) at EH9 at the pipeline. Its a small new singletrack on the south side. It runs for .4 miles to EH3. At EH3 it crosses the main trail to go around a huge puddle, then crosses back and goes into the woods on the south side again. That one runs for 2.5 miles, and loops all over before coming back to EH2. Its pretty flat, and mostly mellow, but it hasn't really been ridden in enough to get really fast yet.

    There is also another unmarked trail that starts about 20 feet north of EH2 on the east side of the fireroad. It goes down the hill to just north of EH18, but just before you hit the trail that is on the map there is a 4.3 mile loop trail that winds back and forth up the hill and just goes on forever. This trail had quite a bit of climbing, it has a lot of potential, but it needs to be ridden in and maybe widened a bit, I think in the summer it would be really tight.

    So overall, the stuff I rode was not in great shape, but it was 99% rideable, only a couple of fresh blowdowns. There is definitely a lot of potential and whoever built this stuff connected the singletracks so you can ride them as a big loop. The 4 mile loop has a lot of up and down and I think it could be a super fun trail with a little work.

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    I was riding out there today as well. Took the trail up EH 19, 20, 23, 24 and 25 then back down Town Line Trail. The latter was very swampy with a significant blockage at one point that was difficult to get around. The other side was great, and I saw a number of trails that weren't on the map. I also didn't get to the EH 21-22 area. Generally, these are slightly wider trails, but rocky and pretty fun to ride. And they're maintained pretty well.

    Jay, that 4.3 mile loop is the one I posted the map of, no? And I think that other trail you mentioned on the west side of the EH Trail is the Ebola Trail (on Strava). These two loops together would comprise a decent outing by themselves. And there are many miles more in this area. Would be great to see more folks out there riding and working the trails in a bit more.

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    I'm happy to see that this thread is still fairly active. I've been riding and clearing the Copicut Hill trails for the past six weekends. I'd love to attack sections of trails with a larger crew. If anyone else is interested. I'm also running out of loops to clear and looking to expand my knowledge of the trails.

    Usually my goal is to get a decent ride in (slow lately with the old man) and clear cross ups on whichever trail we're on that might need clearing. Unfortunately i live in central MA so it's weekends only for me but if anyone wanted to put forth a more organized effort to clear trails i'd happily join in.

    Not quite related to the current topic but i figure we all love playing in the woods on two wheels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanchardmatt17 View Post
    I'm happy to see that this thread is still fairly active. I've been riding and clearing the Copicut Hill trails for the past six weekends. I'd love to attack sections of trails with a larger crew. If anyone else is interested. I'm also running out of loops to clear and looking to expand my knowledge of the trails.

    Usually my goal is to get a decent ride in (slow lately with the old man) and clear cross ups on whichever trail we're on that might need clearing. Unfortunately i live in central MA so it's weekends only for me but if anyone wanted to put forth a more organized effort to clear trails i'd happily join in.

    Not quite related to the current topic but i figure we all love playing in the woods on two wheels...
    The CH trails do look pretty good--thanks for the work. The one section I recently saw that needs clearing is the climb from CH5 to CH4. This has some very challenging sections even under the best conditions, but there are some major logs and trees across the trail that make it more frustration than it's worth. Probably chain saw work.

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