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    Seems that there are some kids who are riding non-human-powered bikes in the Fells and theyíre doing a fair amount of damage to the trails (fire roads only so far as I can tell).

    Iím usually only there in the morning and Iíve assumed that the riders ride there at night. It turns out that Iím wrong as I ran into somebody this morning who said that they saw two people on dirt bikes yesterday (feb 21) at around 4pm.

    Previously Iíd only seen this damage on Mondayís, meaning that the damage was done over the weekend. As this week is school break in Mass, it makes sense that theyíre out midweek.

    Any suggestions who to raise this to? I havenít looked yet, but I assume that DCR has some method of reporting this sort of thing. Unfortunately this section of the Fells (like the others) has many ways in/out so itís unlikely that these punks can be caught.

    Some pics of the damage theyíve done...






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    MEP. Thatís who you report this to.
    These photos donít really depict what I would call a fair amount of damage.

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    Take pics, report the damage to the DCR rangers. Environmental police too.

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    as if you thinkn the hiker and walkers are not already all over this as though
    someone was poisoning the water supply.

    State Police, 5 local PD's, DCR, everyone knows about this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    MEP. Thatís who you report this to.
    These photos donít really depict what I would call a fair amount of damage.
    I donít feel as though the pics do the damage justice. That said, are you taking the over or under on ďa fair amountĒ?


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    Under. Way under.
    One rain storm and youíll never see those marks. And with the gravel put down, itís not like those displaced grains of sand will be wandering too far.

    however, dirty bikers arenít supposed to be in there at all, so thatís no excuse. Definitely call the greenies.

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    Seen that too over the past week. Also last fall at wright's pond and Eastern Fells. It's two kids in North Medford I think as I once saw "matching" dirt bikes in an open garage.
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    It's the fells - why do so many feel the need to police it? If you feel so strong about the issue McGruff, get out there and confront 'em !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowridge View Post
    It's the fells - why do so many feel the need to police it? If you feel so strong about the issue McGruff, get out there and confront 'em !
    I can almost hear the sound of your parentsí fingers crossing that your reading comprehension gets better when you get into the fourth grade. Donít let them down!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowridge View Post
    It's the fells - why do so many feel the need to police it? If you feel so strong about the issue McGruff, get out there and confront 'em !
    Seriously. Looks like they're just riding on dirt/gravel roads, there is no 'damage'.

    Never got the whole cop wanna-be thing. Let the FoFs take care of whining and crying about it; I'm sure they have it covered.
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    they do scare the off leash dogs away and they stay off the good trails

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    Seriously. Looks like they're just riding on dirt/gravel roads, there is no 'damage'.

    Never got the whole cop wanna-be thing. Let the FoFs take care of whining and crying about it; I'm sure they have it covered.
    yes those aren't really 'roosts' those are marks from normal acceleration. but since bikes/atvs are heavy and have torque, it lays down marks

    still I double-dog guarantee there is a huge local Fells posse gonna find and hang those responsible, it won't need any MTB'er to drop a dime. motorized vehicle tracks in teh Fells probably gave 20 blue-haired gazillionaire hikers heart attacks in the first hour
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    doubt it. I ride fells a lot in the winter and never seen them on the west side

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    still I double-dog guarantee there is a huge local Fells posse gonna find and hang those responsible, it won't need any MTB'er to drop a dime. motorized vehicle tracks in teh Fells probably gave 20 blue-haired gazillionaire hikers heart attacks in the first hour
    Oh yeah. Those Fells regulars will report dirt bikers faster than balking at cleaning up their dog's sh!t. No need for to get involved, others will sort it out.
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    doubt it as those "regulars" don't cross 93 and the dirt bikes stay on the east side which is horrible for biking and not worth anyone's time.

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    [QUOTE=incubus;13554238]I can almost hear the sound of your parentsí fingers crossing that your reading comprehension gets better when you get into the fourth grade. Donít let them down!

    Nice!

    You get those outlaws apprehended yet?

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    [QUOTE=Bowridge;13555376]
    Quote Originally Posted by incubus View Post
    I can almost hear the sound of your parentsí fingers crossing that your reading comprehension gets better when you get into the fourth grade. Donít let them down!

    Nice!

    You get those outlaws apprehended yet?
    Looks like they got them....http://www.bostonherald.com/news/loc...ogue_bike_crew

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    I highly doubt those are the people responsoble for the pictures acts of atrocity above.
    Possible, but not probable in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I highly doubt those are the people responsoble for the pictures acts of atrocity above.
    Possible, but not probable in my mind.
    Yeah, not likely.
    Though having some legal spots to ride in the state would probably go a long way toward keeping kids from riding on the streets. Life hands you lemons...

    I've actually got a bit of a soft spot for the bikelife scene and have even taken my 13 y/o son to a huge legal rideout (what they call a group ride). There's actually a lot of positivity in it, just tough to reconcile with traffic laws. What can ya do, riders gonna ride.

    My boy and Wheelie Wayne, one of the original 12 O-Clock Boyz from Baltimore. You would probably be surprised how nice a lot of these guys are in person. They treat my kid like family.
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    Iím sure they are a friendly bunch of cats. As a lifelong dirt bike rider and racer I have zero tolerance for illegal street shenanigans/takeovers.
    But, I fully agree, more legal riding areas would curb lots of the illegal trail roaching. Youíll still get the neighborhood kids out in whatever local wilderness is available though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Iím sure they are a friendly bunch of cats. As a lifelong dirt bike rider and racer I have zero tolerance for illegal street shenanigans/takeovers.
    But, I fully agree, more legal riding areas would curb lots of the illegal trail roaching. Youíll still get the neighborhood kids out in whatever local wilderness is available though.
    Yeah, it's tough to be into moto around here. Guess I'd rather see kids leaving a few marks in some gravel than riding on the streets with all the danger and BS that entails. Can't say I wouldn't have doing the same thing bitd if I'd been handed different cards in life though. Critical Mass for moto.

    There is some movement towards legitimizing things more, but track time is $$$$$. I think it was something like $12k to rent out the track ni Palmer MA we went to for the day, and tons of people showed up from all over the place; Philly, Baltimore, all over NY, NJ...it was actually a pretty cool thing to be a part of. And some no-joke riding going on.
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    Of course, there's plenty of trickle-down to bicycles...funny, you take away the motors and you can even get yourself a police escort.
    Big legal ride this summer in Boston...when people say kids don't ride bikes anymore these days, I have to chuckle.

    Check out ~7:00, 20:30 and 25:00ish - pretty cool.
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    You guys rented the new racetrack in Palmer? For an org-free trackday, or did you go with one of the local vendors?

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    It was an invite-only private event, a 7th memorial ride/cookout for a guy in the scene. Not sure whether the proprietors had any clue what they were signing up for. Seemed to take in stride pretty well though.

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    Ahh, it looks like the course was closed, yíall had free run of the ďpitsĒ though. Right?

    Lrrs used to do scooter races and wheelie contests after racing was done for the day. Fun (and hysterical) times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Ahh, it looks like the course was closed, yíall had free run of the ďpitsĒ though. Right?

    Lrrs used to do scooter races and wheelie contests after racing was done for the day. Fun (and hysterical) times.
    Naw, full track was open also. Few guys even managed to wheelie the whole thing.
    It was an all-day event too, like 6 to 6. We were there for like 8 hours, my kid did a bunch of laps and still walks on air when he talks about it.

    The off-track area was kinda like a moto mosh pit; for the first couple hours I was waiting for people to get killed riding random wheelies in all directions, but after I awhile I realized they had shit dialed for the most part and relaxed. If I was a helmet-policeman, I would've lost my mind though.

    Sorry to go way off topic...

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    Ha, that is wild. I have a track car and run time trials at Palmer fairly regularly with COMSCC. Real pretty place. I once walked the whole track at sunset, epic.

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    Once upon a blue moon I instructed and control rode for bostonmoto.
    I worked my way through the Loudon RR series in short order to white plates on a mortard.
    I still walk on air thinking of those times too.

    However, as a respectable type dirtbike rider and racer (now), it annoys me to no end to see people furthering the bad rep. I definitely go places that arenít legally trodden as well, but never bicycle trails, and Iím really careful about the whereís and whenís of my journeys across the countryside.

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    Pinehills?

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    All the good stuff is now part of the Pinehills development.
    But no, never anything across from the shop (on a Moto).
    My people tell me theyíve been building new stuff over there. Ladders and drops and somebody said even a new Ewok village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    All the good stuff is now part of the Pinehills development.
    But no, never anything across from the shop (on a Moto).
    My people tell me theyíve been building new stuff over there. Ladders and drops and somebody said even a new Ewok village.
    I was referring to all the stuff west of rte 3a behind the shop. I pretty much only ride the west side anymore. Love those moto trails!

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    I donít know that stuff at all.

    I suspect the advent of plus and/or fat will make any of that stuff better. Plymouth is all sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I donít know that stuff at all.

    I suspect the advent of plus and/or fat will make any of that stuff better. Plymouth is all sand.
    Jeesh you gotta check it out. Lots of miles of great skinny tire moto trails on both sides. Plus or fat not needed. Wicked climbs and descents. Hours and hours of it from behind the shop to west of rte 3 up to North Plymouth down to Cedarville and over to Carver, all over. Just the stuff between the shop and old sandwich rd on both sides of the ridge will keep you busy for hours if you link it all up in one big loop. Stoked to get back there for some pain.🤗

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    As a fells rider I will say this type of thing does nothing good for those of us who pedal those trails. Now I realize our good friends will freak out, and I realize that the Fells is not seen as a serious place to ride; but when you live near it it's a little different. I don't see the trail ruts being as big of a deal as a motorized bike screaming through the trails. You have kids and pets and all kinds of people walking those trails.

    I have been wondering what kind of impact the ebikes are going to have. Some of them are just bikes with motors. But I am seeing some pretty awesome looking machines that are essentially electric dirtbikes.

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    The trails I'm talking about are dirt bike created trails.

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    Everything we ride is essentially old dirtybike trails, except for maybe 1-2%.

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    Maybe the gravel double wide fire roads, but a lot of the single track were deer trails...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locoman View Post
    Maybe the gravel double wide fire roads, but a lot of the single track were deer trails...
    Since when do deer use tape to flag the trails that they frequent?🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawReynolds View Post
    Since when do deer use tape to flag the trails that they frequent?🤔
    Ah, so trails didn't exist before dirt bikes were invented. Got it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawReynolds View Post
    Since when do deer use tape to flag the trails that they frequent?🤔
    I don't know about that, but deer do put up signs where they cross major roads....see 'em errywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locoman View Post
    Ah, so trails didn't exist before dirt bikes were invented. Got it.


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    Not dirt bike trails. What are you not understanding here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locoman View Post
    Ah, so trails didn't exist before dirt bikes were invented. Got it.


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    lulz, I disagree that most of the single track is cyclist converted deer runs. In my experience, most of the single track is adopted dirtybike trails from days of yore.

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    Trail o tears, sandwich, Otis, much of Yarmouth, lower cape and so much in between. You have dirt bikers to thank for hundreds of miles of singletrack inspiration on the Cape, for example. Sure MTB's took over many of those zones and trails have "evolved", but.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HacksawReynolds View Post
    Trail o tears, sandwich, Otis, much of Yarmouth, lower cape and so much in between. You have dirt bikers to thank for hundreds of miles of singletrack inspiration on the Cape, for example. Sure MTB's took over many of those zones and trails have "evolved", but.......
    Iím going to have to agree with a Hacksaw. Iíve been riding on the Cape for quite a while and havenít made a dent in them. I can do a 20 mile ride and not one Strava segment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thecanoe View Post
    Iím going to have to agree with a Hacksaw. Iíve been riding on the Cape for quite a while and havenít made a dent in them. I can do a 20 mile ride and not one Strava segment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    lulz, I disagree that most of the single track is cyclist converted deer runs. In my experience, most of the single track is adopted dirtybike trails from days of yore.
    around my section of Ma, most trails are colonial foot trails that never became roads
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    Most stuff I ride these days is purpose-built MTB trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    Most stuff I ride these days is purpose-built MTB trail.
    that's sweet.

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